If I have Riku out and I cast Progenitor, and I pay the extra UG from Riku would it make a copy of Progenitor that I could pick a new creature to copy or would it be the same as first target?
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Part of me thought the promo picture was: Kirtar's Wrath, but it makes spirit's and not birds. Now I'm thinking it's Desert Twister.
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Do you think they will make an Opalescence type of card in the Theros Block with all the enchantment creatures? Probably won't be a direct reprint but a card with the same type of effect?
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I think out of the 8; 7 of the cards were awful! This enchantment better be only B to cast otherwise what a PoS.
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This is coming from a vintage(we don't play with power 9 either or tourney quality decks) casual player's opinion:
These are terrible. I lose the game? Seriously somebody thinks that's a good ability, I must have been playing a different game all these years because I try to win.
If I'm losing life I don't want the creature back to my hand I want it on the battlefield, if I wanted raise dead type of stuff I would play with Oversold Cemetery type of cards where I'm not losing life and I still get my creatures.
Exile cards from graveyard to draw not bad, oh wait lets make that even HARDER. You might get ONE card off of this card on average even if you play four of everything, I'm not including my opponent simply because you can't be 100% that they are playing the same cards as you or if they are playing 4 of everything.
I hate life setting cards they are always bad or cost too much to play!
7/7 demon with abilities not bad, but if i'm playing black I usually have raise dead effects in my deck.
Opponent discard get an effect, this is neat. Though I would never be able to play this because my friends hate discard so to avoid complaining we don't play discard.
Rites is probably the best card something I would play with.
Demonic Rising having it indestructible is over the top! Should have just had Protection from black!
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This is my submission.
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Creatures with contagion counters are 1/1 and lose all abilities. (Indefinitely)
Creatures dealt combat damage by creatures with contagion counters gain a contagion counter.
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Probably not worded the best but I think it's a neat concept for black. It also goes with the greco/roman theme in the coming block of Theros.
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This should be an aura there are not enough good black aura's that even make it to tourney play. I think even Underworld Connections is even that good. Please be a great aura!
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This is a rules spec based on the way the card reads, but could you play Conspiracy and name gates, and just get some different creatures and some different lands and win?
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I think I already know the answer but I want to make sure of it.
I have Mistmeadow skulk and a Cradle of Vitality on the battlefield, I cast Heroes' Reunion, and I choose to use the Cradle can I target the Mistmeadow?
I'm guessing no because the cradle is 4 mana CC which falls under protection but the way cradle is worded it kind of confuses me.
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It would cost 8. XXRR is the cost. By comparison, Bonfire is XXR.
I apologize I didn't read the card properly I thought you had to pay the normal casting cost along with the overload. Overload might not be too bad than might be potentially good.
I still think Populate is boring and I just don't like scavenge still.
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Cixrtyx is either trolling or delusional. Likely both, since MTG players tend to be insane and think themselves to be comedians.
The Charm is going to shake up standard on it's own. UR Delver, anybody? Don't even get me started on Modern.
Read my post please I did use the words SO FAR as in not a final opinion! I'm not trolling I'm stating a valid opinion I don't like the mechanics revealed so far! I'm glad you can argue valid points like me; oh wait I forgot this is on the internet where instead it is easier to just insult people. If you would come up with valid reasons to argue my opinion I would probably be convince otherwise but now you've just insulted me so I won't have any vested interest in what you have to say now.
First I don't play tournament (anymore) I play casual; non infinite combo casual, no 1st turn win casual, etc! I play to have fun most of my games end on turn 7 or 8 sometimes longer because my friends and I like having fun. We don't buy singles we buy boxes/packs and make decks with whatever cards we have. That way we are not going over board on a deck and the deck becomes not fun to play against. This doesn't mean I don't know how to play tournament or build a tournament quality deck.
Overload is bad in my opinion because they are going to make a bunch of bad cards become even more overpriced when casting them. That overload card takes 12 mana to do 3 damage to all your opponents non-fliers! I'd rather just cast MagmaQuake or Bonfire of the damned.
Populate is neat but still on the boring side, since it can only be your creatures you are copying not a big deal.
Scavenge is just terrible why would I want to get rid of my graveyard to make one of my creatures become a major target of a murder/terminate? For an over priced ability cost?
At least flashback recasts a potentially game threatening spell again! OMG I get +5/+5 for 6 mana at sorcery speed!!! Epic Proportions anyone?
I want to see game manipulating mechanics like original rav did. Convoke was amazing since it added extra sneakiness to a deck. Dredge speaks for itself since there are type one decks built around it. Replicate is where it's at!
So again I don't think the 5 cards spoiled so far are that OMG AMAZING! The charm is decent, the goblin is cool but that's about all I like.
Heck I've even read the original Rav books and I don't even think they gave Jarad justice to how cool he is. Giving him a counter intuitive ability to a guild he runs!? That makes no sense.
Please instead of being insulting be a little more intelligent in your posts. As not once did I insult anybody or attempt to troll! Everybody is entitled to their opinions!
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It's not a troll post, it's an opinion. So far I don't like the flavour or the keywords. Comparing it to original Rav it doesn't so far but we've only seen 5 cards. I just don't have high hopes is all.
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So far RTR is garbage, not nearly as good as RAV so far; hell not even as good as Shards.
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Example On the battlefield I have Druid, Gilt Leaf,Riku. I cast Progenitor copying the Gilt Leaf and pay the extra from Riku, could I get a Druid also, or would I have two more Gilt Leaf?
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These are terrible. I lose the game? Seriously somebody thinks that's a good ability, I must have been playing a different game all these years because I try to win.
If I'm losing life I don't want the creature back to my hand I want it on the battlefield, if I wanted raise dead type of stuff I would play with Oversold Cemetery type of cards where I'm not losing life and I still get my creatures.
Exile cards from graveyard to draw not bad, oh wait lets make that even HARDER. You might get ONE card off of this card on average even if you play four of everything, I'm not including my opponent simply because you can't be 100% that they are playing the same cards as you or if they are playing 4 of everything.
I hate life setting cards they are always bad or cost too much to play!
7/7 demon with abilities not bad, but if i'm playing black I usually have raise dead effects in my deck.
Opponent discard get an effect, this is neat. Though I would never be able to play this because my friends hate discard so to avoid complaining we don't play discard.
Rites is probably the best card something I would play with.
Demonic Rising having it indestructible is over the top! Should have just had Protection from black!
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Creatures with contagion counters are 1/1 and lose all abilities. (Indefinitely)
Creatures dealt combat damage by creatures with contagion counters gain a contagion counter.
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Probably not worded the best but I think it's a neat concept for black. It also goes with the greco/roman theme in the coming block of Theros.
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I have Mistmeadow skulk and a Cradle of Vitality on the battlefield, I cast Heroes' Reunion, and I choose to use the Cradle can I target the Mistmeadow?
I'm guessing no because the cradle is 4 mana CC which falls under protection but the way cradle is worded it kind of confuses me.
EDIT: Thank you for clearing that up.
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I apologize I didn't read the card properly I thought you had to pay the normal casting cost along with the overload. Overload might not be too bad than might be potentially good.
I still think Populate is boring and I just don't like scavenge still.
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Read my post please I did use the words SO FAR as in not a final opinion! I'm not trolling I'm stating a valid opinion I don't like the mechanics revealed so far! I'm glad you can argue valid points like me; oh wait I forgot this is on the internet where instead it is easier to just insult people. If you would come up with valid reasons to argue my opinion I would probably be convince otherwise but now you've just insulted me so I won't have any vested interest in what you have to say now.
First I don't play tournament (anymore) I play casual; non infinite combo casual, no 1st turn win casual, etc! I play to have fun most of my games end on turn 7 or 8 sometimes longer because my friends and I like having fun. We don't buy singles we buy boxes/packs and make decks with whatever cards we have. That way we are not going over board on a deck and the deck becomes not fun to play against. This doesn't mean I don't know how to play tournament or build a tournament quality deck.
Overload is bad in my opinion because they are going to make a bunch of bad cards become even more overpriced when casting them. That overload card takes 12 mana to do 3 damage to all your opponents non-fliers! I'd rather just cast MagmaQuake or Bonfire of the damned.
Populate is neat but still on the boring side, since it can only be your creatures you are copying not a big deal.
Scavenge is just terrible why would I want to get rid of my graveyard to make one of my creatures become a major target of a murder/terminate? For an over priced ability cost?
At least flashback recasts a potentially game threatening spell again! OMG I get +5/+5 for 6 mana at sorcery speed!!! Epic Proportions anyone?
I want to see game manipulating mechanics like original rav did. Convoke was amazing since it added extra sneakiness to a deck. Dredge speaks for itself since there are type one decks built around it. Replicate is where it's at!
So again I don't think the 5 cards spoiled so far are that OMG AMAZING! The charm is decent, the goblin is cool but that's about all I like.
Heck I've even read the original Rav books and I don't even think they gave Jarad justice to how cool he is. Giving him a counter intuitive ability to a guild he runs!? That makes no sense.
Please instead of being insulting be a little more intelligent in your posts. As not once did I insult anybody or attempt to troll! Everybody is entitled to their opinions!
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It's not a troll post, it's an opinion. So far I don't like the flavour or the keywords. Comparing it to original Rav it doesn't so far but we've only seen 5 cards. I just don't have high hopes is all.
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