MTG Salvation

City of Solitude might be a good card to include since if you can stick it, it can shut off counters when you go off with Grapeshot of TOA.

Dreadstill can be a U/R, U/W, U/G, or a U/B variant. It depends on what you prefer. My current build and deck tech on youtube is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta_bDpnzQss&feature=youtu.be

My build is a U/R/w build to give me Lavamancer for late game reach and the ability to E.E. for up to 3. From what I've seen U/W and U/B tend to use Topor Orb the most. U/G allows you to run Goyf and K-Grip. And U/R gives you Lavamancer and R.E.B./Pyroblast. It depends on what your personal preference is and what you can afford. You can also make it mono-blue but you lose a little advantage that each color tedns to give their dreadstill build.

My advice would be to check your meta and from there determine which build would be the best to run if possible.

In the debate of LED/non-LED/Manaless dredge decks I got a 20 minute video on youtube that quickly goes over the variations of dredge in general. This is actually the part 1 of many Legacy Dredge deck techs I hope to come out with. Here is part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWnoi7ljJhs

Part 2 will be Baulstrade Spy manaless which should be up today. Part 3 will be blue manaless and it will be up within the next month.

OP sounds like the guy who plays Pithing Needle naming Pithing Needle.

Skyshroud Elite is better than the Ridgeback. The fading counters are what hurt you. You need permanent creatures which is why Groundbreaker is not in the deck. You want the drawback that you can most easily work around.

The Ridgeback can survive to attack for 2 turns.
The Elite will be a 1/1 unless your opponent has a non-basic land.
With the amount of non-basic lands in Legacy the Elite is a better choice.

The same thing with Jungle Lion. It used to be a great card until they printed Dryad Militant. Now you have a 2/1 for G that can block and removes any instant and sorcery that goes to the graveyard.

Finally got my 2 Volcanic Isles and the rest of the board is finished finally. Trying to find some guys in Western N.Y. to test with. I really don't like online testing. But it feels great finally having the right duals and V. Charm good grave hate. This was a good year for me actually. I finished Dreadstill, Enchantress, and D&T. Can't wait for my wife to let me go to a few tournaments. LOL

I just need to nab 3 GSZ and a Leyline and I'm all set with the deck. Still thinking about the DoJ. Wondering what to take out of the sideboard to make room for the DoJ

I'm not big on foil cards even though I have a foil Wasteland and a few other random foils I'm nabbed over the years. While beta power is tempting as hell. Foil staples would suit me better since I'm Legacy only as of now. Now if I already had a complete set of duals and fetches I'd go with beta power.

Seems like I have a use for my 3 DoJ finally.

Going really budget, you could drop Wasteland all together and just run 4 Ghost Quarter. Not the same punch as wasteland but if you can continually do 2 of them a turn you you might have a shot at killing all of your opponent's basic lands. You have to cut Tabernacle so I might suggest Pendrell Mists it costs 3U, is an enchantment, but it does the same thing. The problem is that you can't recur it with an Academy Ruins and you wold need to find 4 spaces in your deck.

All that being said, You need Rishadan Port. You need the ability to deny mana no matter what. Its a pain in the ass to get 4 copies. I know because I just bought my 4th Port to finish my D&T. But you need them. Shocklands can work as a quick budget fix instead of duals. But you need the fetches to get them.

So instead of duals and wastelands and a tabernacle go with this:

• 1 Forest
  
• 2 Tranquil Thicket
  
• 2 Tolaria West
  
• 1 Glacial Chasm
  
• 2 Grove of the Burnwillows
  
• 1 Academy Ruins
  
• 1 Temple Garden
  
• 1 Stomping Ground
  
• 2-3 Breeding Pool
  
• 1 Windswept Heath
  
• 1 Wooded Foothills
  
• 1 Verdant Catacombs
  
• 4 Pendrell Mists
  
• 4 Life from the Loam
  
• 4 Exploration
  
• 3 Manabond
  
• 1 Zuran Orb
  
• 3 Mox Diamond
  
• 1 Ensnaring Bridge
  
• 2 Engineered Explosives
  
• 1 Crucible of Worlds
  
• 3 Crop Rotation
  
• 2 Punishing Fire
  
• 4 Gamble
  
• 4 Ghost Quarter
  
• 4 Rishadan Port
  

This is off the top of my head with the inclusion of Sparki's suggestions. And Sparki wrote the new primer for lands. I left out any win conditions since that is your call on how to win but this is a temporary fix for now. I know Port is a problem to get but you need it. But this is going to be the cheapest you'll find unless you want to run all basics with Evolving Wilds

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Equipoise isn't run, for me at least, because it's a win-more card. You're main goal in Stasis is to get Stasis + Frozen AEther on board and Equipoise does little before that and even less afterwords.

I would beg to differ on Equipoise doing little before and less after Stasis hits the table. Phasing permanents out with it occurs during the upkeep which allows for you selectively "wrath" the board. Along with removing troublesome artifacts like CotV or 3Sphere it is also a semi "Armageddon" phasing out your opponents untapped lands. Now that is good but once Stasis is in play it gets even better.

Phasing in all of your opponent's stuff occurs during....Guess when???? The untap step as a mini layer of the step itself. Which everyone skips. So they never get anything back. And it works every turn to remove lands, artifacts, and creatures you don't want your opponent to have.

I think it should be considered at least since it allows a selective "Wrath", Geddon", "Shatterstorm" every turn and only gets better after you drop Stasis since if you keep the lock in play they never get anything back.

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I traded 3 Vindicates for a foil Wasteland about 6 years ago. I think I cam out ahead on that trade. Also, anyone else noticing the spike in price of Rishadan Ports? Maybe its just me but it seems like they shot up really fast.

It's a pretty niche effect, mercadian masques is a pretty big set, so rares are harder to get from it. Add in the fact it's played in multiple legacy decks and you've got a pretty expensive card. The spike is pretty huge though. Went from like $50->$110 in a few weeks.

I know, just got my 4th Port for about $80. I remember buying the first 3 Ports for about $25 a piece. Of course back then Wasteland was also about $10-15. Man I've been playing for a while.

Well, adding Stifle is a good choice. Nuking an opponent's fetchland is always good. Trickbind instead of Stifle if your really budget. Daze and Spell Pierce work great if you can deny some mana via Wasteland or Stifle. Maybe try Foil instead of FoW and sandbag a few islands in your hand for the cost of Foil. Ghost Quarter can be a budget wasteland if your opponent is running 0 basics but few decks actually run 0 basics. Most run a few to get around wasteland but it could shut off a color if your lucky. Personally, I would also run 3-4 Mishra's in the main. So my recommendations:


If money is no object:

6 blue fetchlands
2-3 blue duals
3-4 wastelands
4 stifle
4 Fow


Since money is a problem:

4 Trickbind
4 Ghost Quarter
2 Mishra's Factory
Maybe 4 Foil


But take this advice with a grain of salt my friend. I own the cards your not willing to spend money on. If you play casually or at very local events, the deck you have is perfectly fine. If your more competitive like me or monetize your deck tech videos on youtube like me, you want to have the best you can possibly have. However, all things being equal, a round won with a budget deck is still a round won.

I traded 3 Vindicates for a foil Wasteland about 6 years ago. I think I cam out ahead on that trade. Also, anyone else noticing the spike in price of Rishadan Ports? Maybe its just me but it seems like they shot up really fast.

I've been away for a while. Like the new look for the site. Got me a cool new nickname. But I also settled on running a variant of Sparki's intuition list and a few gambles in there.