Mistveil Plains is a card I've never been unhappy to see. You're light on tutoring so it isn't an auto-include, but consider it if you add some more search effects.
Hi there,
Thank you for your response, fiend hunter might be a good replacement for false prophet. In retrospect I'm not even sure why I included False Prophet in the first place. I was looking at cutting Norn's Annex so Sphere of Safety seems like a good inclusion. I dont think I will include Mistveil Plains however since I try to stay away from tapped lands and I dont really have a way to tutor creatures. I will probably cut Oblivion Ring and Banishing Light for Enlightened Tutor and Idyllic Tutor.
I have never played with colorless tutors like Ring of Three Wishes. What is the consensus on these?
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I strongly prefer playing mono-colored decks since I find that they have more niche/unique playstyles and usually end up cheaper since you dont need fetches/shocks. Monowhite is the only color I haven't built in real-life (I very briefly had a Darien deck when I started EDH by in 2010, but it wasnt very good and I took it apart rather quickly). Before actually going out and buying the cards, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on which direction I should take this deck and whether or not it would be viable in a T3 meta (eg: Well built: Ezuri, Claw of Progress, Wort Raidmother, etc).
I picked Mangara of Corondor since he has an interesting ability that deals with every single permanent type. I'm assuming that his ability is highly political as well: "Attack me and I remove your big threat or I let player C beat you into the dust".
The primary purpose of the deck is to abuse managara's ability by either flashing him out before the second part resolves or by doubling his activation. An other alternative is saccing him then recurring him. It also includes most common mono-white control cards. I am considering slotting in Null Rod and Stony Silence but I would need to test more. I'm a bit light on wincons, but I assume that either Avacyn, Entreat the Angels or Elspeth planeswalker would be able to close out the game slowly but surely.
*Note: This decklist may not add up to 100 cards, see decklist by card type for a guaranteed 100 cards.
Turn 1: Opponent A) Land for Turn Opponent B) Land for Turn, Mana Crypt Me: Land for turn, Sol ring, Greaves
Turn 2: Opponent A) Land for Turn, Sylvan Scrying for Dark Depths Opponent B) Land for Turn, Everflowing Chalice Me: Land for turn, Fireshrieker
Turn 3: Opponent A) Thespian Stage Copying Dark Depths Opponent B) Land for Turn, Boomerang Marit Lage Token Me: Vesuva Copying Dark Depths, Attach, Fireshrieker to Marit Lage, attach Lightning Greaves to Marit Lage, Swing at Opponent B) for Lethal. Opponent A) Scoops.
If you vesuva dark depths you don't get the token becuase it enters with the counters on it.
Good thing they never found out.
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Turn 1: Opponent A) Land for Turn Opponent B) Land for Turn, Mana Crypt Me: Land for turn, Sol ring, Greaves
Turn 2: Opponent A) Land for Turn, Sylvan Scrying for Dark Depths Opponent B) Land for Turn, Everflowing Chalice Me: Land for turn, Fireshrieker
Turn 3: Opponent A) Thespian Stage Copying Dark Depths Opponent B) Land for Turn, Boomerang Marit Lage Token Me: Vesuva Copying Dark Depths, Attach, Fireshrieker to Marit Lage, attach Lightning Greaves to Marit Lage, Swing at Opponent B) for Lethal. Opponent A) Scoops.
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I'd personally recommend Sylvan Library. Probably over Mirri's Guile(a good card but better with blue or loads of shuffle effects) or a weaker creature.
You are absolutely right. As a matter-of-fact I am quite surprised I didnt think of this before since I do have a copy of Sylvan Library and none of Mirri's guile.
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Pernicious Deed and Gaze of Granite are solid anti-swarm tech in my Shattergang deck. I also really dig finding Heartstone - especially when you're activating the bros one or more times a turn.
I really like both cards but I think I will settle with only one of them (Pernicious Deed since it can double as enchantment removal) since I tend to have alot of non-creature permanents I want to keep around. I think I will use Toxic Deluge as my 3rd boardwipe-type card.
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Swapped out jund charm and entomb for Pernicious Deed and Toxic Deluge.
Looking for a replacement for Charnelhoard Wurm.
Hello, I usually play jund decks (other then Azami, my decks are Karrthus and Adun) and decided to try building a stax deck. The most frustrating thing about Karrthus is seeing your big dragons get constantly removed. Shattergang Brothers plays the opposite way since it includes multiple tokens who are meant to die. I didnt have much hope for the card but it turned out alot better then I expected. The deck is surprisingly effective against everything from voltron to combo but tends to be weak against swarm decks. Although play testing have shown this deck to work really well, I still think improvements can be made and I'd be happy to receive any feedback I can get. Feel free to ask as many questions as wish too.
Although Experiment Kraj can be tricky to pilot, it is an amazingly fun general with endless possibilities. You have no set "gameplan", you just adapt to whatever situation the current game calls for and can win through a large number of different ways. With untap abilities, you can easily have access to every single activated ability on the battlefield, friend or foe. Creatures such as Aetherling and Thornling will also make it incredibly hard to get rid of your commander.
UG also has a relatively cheap manabase in terms of $. Not to mention that UG is probably the best color combination in EDH, giving you access to control, ramp, and large creatures.
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One of the most annoying Jeleva decks I played against had every single extra turn cards in the game such as Time Stretch and Temporal Mastery. They essentially let the Jeleva player attack multiple times in a row and trigger her ability a bunch of times.
As for killing her, the go to sac outlets should work just fine(Viscera Seer, Ashnod's Altar, etc) Another card Ive seen used is equilibrium to bounce her back and recast her constantly.
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http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/614234-12-tribe-lordspam-changeling-jank-deck
Playing basically every single lord in WBG.
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
Hi there,
Thank you for your response, fiend hunter might be a good replacement for false prophet. In retrospect I'm not even sure why I included False Prophet in the first place. I was looking at cutting Norn's Annex so Sphere of Safety seems like a good inclusion. I dont think I will include Mistveil Plains however since I try to stay away from tapped lands and I dont really have a way to tutor creatures. I will probably cut Oblivion Ring and Banishing Light for Enlightened Tutor and Idyllic Tutor.
I have never played with colorless tutors like Ring of Three Wishes. What is the consensus on these?
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
I strongly prefer playing mono-colored decks since I find that they have more niche/unique playstyles and usually end up cheaper since you dont need fetches/shocks. Monowhite is the only color I haven't built in real-life (I very briefly had a Darien deck when I started EDH by in 2010, but it wasnt very good and I took it apart rather quickly). Before actually going out and buying the cards, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on which direction I should take this deck and whether or not it would be viable in a T3 meta (eg: Well built: Ezuri, Claw of Progress, Wort Raidmother, etc).
I picked Mangara of Corondor since he has an interesting ability that deals with every single permanent type. I'm assuming that his ability is highly political as well: "Attack me and I remove your big threat or I let player C beat you into the dust".
The primary purpose of the deck is to abuse managara's ability by either flashing him out before the second part resolves or by doubling his activation. An other alternative is saccing him then recurring him. It also includes most common mono-white control cards. I am considering slotting in Null Rod and Stony Silence but I would need to test more. I'm a bit light on wincons, but I assume that either Avacyn, Entreat the Angels or Elspeth planeswalker would be able to close out the game slowly but surely.
*Note: This decklist may not add up to 100 cards, see decklist by card type for a guaranteed 100 cards.
1 Mangara of Corondor
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Day of Judgment
1 Rout
1 Terminus
1 Wrath of God
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Soulsnare
1 Condemn
1 Return to Dust
1 Seal of Cleansing
//Abusing Mangara's Ability
1 Otherworldly Journey
1 Eerie Interlude
1 Ghostway
1 Cloudshift
1 Liberate
1 Eldrazi Displacer
1 Flickerform
1 Jeskai Barricade
1 Whitemane Lion
1 Erratic Portal
1 Illusionist's Bracers
1 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Restoration Angel
1 Dust Elemental
1 Stonecloaker
1 Magewright's Stone
1 Thousand-Year Elixir
1 Sol Ring
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1 Tithe
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Weathered Wayfarer
//Wincons
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Elspeth Sun's Champion
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1 Luminarch's Ascencion
//Pillowfort
1 Sphere of Safety
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Crackdown
1 Michiko Konda, Thruth Seeker
1 Magus of the Moat
1 Windborn Muse
1 Grand Abolisher
1 Meekstone
1 Crawlspace
1 Maze of Ith
1 Martyr's Bond
1 Archangel of Tithes
1 Sun Titan
1 Mimic Vat
1 Karmic Guide
1 Reveillark
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
//Utility
1 Mother of runes
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Rest in Peace
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Arcane Lighthouse
1 Idyllic Tutor
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Stoneforge Mythic
1 Mentor of the Meek
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Trading post
//Other Lands
32 Plains
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Crawlspace
1 Erratic Portal
1 Illusionist's Bracers
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Magewright's Stone
1 Meekstone
1 Mimic Vat
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Sol Ring
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Thousand-Year Elixir
1 Trading Post
//Artifact Creature (1)
1 Solemn Simulacrum
//Creature (21)
1 Reveillark
1 Archangel of Tithes
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1 Dust Elemental
1 Eldrazi Displacer
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Grand Abolisher
1 Jeskai Barricade
1 Karmic Guide
1 Magus of the Moat
1 Mangara of Corondor
1 Mentor of the Meek
1 Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker
1 Mother of Runes
1 Restoration Angel
1 Stonecloaker
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Sun Titan
1 Weathered Wayfarer
1 Whitemane Lion
1 Windborn Muse
1 Sphere of Safety
1 Crackdown
1 Flickerform
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Martyr's Bond
1 Rest in Peace
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Soul Snare
//Instant (10)
1 Cloudshift
1 Condemn
1 Eerie Interlude
1 Ghostway
1 Liberate
1 Otherworldly Journey
1 Path to Exile
1 Return to Dust
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Tithe
1 Enlightened Tutor
//Planeswalker (2)
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
//Sorcery (5)
1 Day of Judgment
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Rout
1 Terminus
1 Wrath of God
1 Idyllic Tutor
1 Arcane Lighthouse
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Maze of Ith
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
32 Plains
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
Good thing they never found out.
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
Opponent A) Land for Turn
Opponent B) Land for Turn, Mana Crypt
Me: Land for turn, Sol ring, Greaves
Turn 2:
Opponent A) Land for Turn, Sylvan Scrying for Dark Depths
Opponent B) Land for Turn, Everflowing Chalice
Me: Land for turn, Fireshrieker
Turn 3:
Opponent A) Thespian Stage Copying Dark Depths
Opponent B) Land for Turn, Boomerang Marit Lage Token
Me: Vesuva Copying Dark Depths, Attach, Fireshrieker to Marit Lage, attach Lightning Greaves to Marit Lage, Swing at Opponent B) for Lethal. Opponent A) Scoops.
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
You are absolutely right. As a matter-of-fact I am quite surprised I didnt think of this before since I do have a copy of Sylvan Library and none of Mirri's guile.
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
Thanks,
Charnelhoard Wurm has been replaced by Sheoldred.
Thinking of replacing Avenger of Zendikar by It that Betrays
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
I really like both cards but I think I will settle with only one of them (Pernicious Deed since it can double as enchantment removal) since I tend to have alot of non-creature permanents I want to keep around. I think I will use Toxic Deluge as my 3rd boardwipe-type card.
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Swapped out jund charm and entomb for Pernicious Deed and Toxic Deluge.
Looking for a replacement for Charnelhoard Wurm.
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Mimic Vat
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Skullclamp
1 Smokestack
1 Sol Ring
1 Spawning Pit
1 Torpor Orb
1 Heartstone
Creature (21)
1 Avenger of Zendikar
1 Bloodghast
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Creakwood Liege
1 Deathrite Shaman
1 Dragonlair Spider
1 Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
1 Eternal Witness
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Goblin Sharpshooter
1 Grave Titan
1 Hell's Caretaker
1 Hua Tuo, Honored Physician
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Ophiomancer
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Reassembling Skeleton
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Viscera Seer
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Awakening Zone
1 Fecundity
1 Goblin Assault
1 Goblin Bombardment
1 Grave Pact
1 Greater Good
1 Leyline of the Void
1 Sylvan Library
1 Necromancy
1 Parallel Lives
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
1 Rancor
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Pernicious Deed
Instant (8)
1 Beast Within
1 Chaos Warp
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Krosan Grip
1 Putrefy
1 Rakdos Charm
1 Vampiric Tutor
Sorcery (6)
1 Damnation
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Harmonize
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Vandalblast
1 Bitterblossom
Land (38)
1 Akoum Refuge
1 Ancient Ziggurat
1 Blood Crypt
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Command Tower
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Exotic Orchard
1 Fire-Lit Thicket
7 Forest
1 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Rootbound Crag
1 Savage Lands
1 Stomping Ground
8 Swamp
1 Tainted Peak
1 Twilight Mire
1 Volrath's Stronghold
General
1 Shattergang Brothers
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
ULeyline of Anticipation,Rhystic Study
BDemonic Tutor, Phyrexian Arena
GSeedborn Muse, Krosan Grip
RReforge the Soul, Wheel of Fortune
xSol Ring, Vedalken Orrery
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
UG also has a relatively cheap manabase in terms of $. Not to mention that UG is probably the best color combination in EDH, giving you access to control, ramp, and large creatures.
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
As for killing her, the go to sac outlets should work just fine(Viscera Seer, Ashnod's Altar, etc) Another card Ive seen used is equilibrium to bounce her back and recast her constantly.
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR
GSelvala, Heart of the Wilds Inf Combo/FattiesG
GWSaffi Eriksdotter Inf ComboGW
BLiliana, Heretical Healer StaxB
RKiki-Jikki, Inf Combo/ETB AbuseR