So here's my deal. I've been poor. However, I now have a job. So I won't be poor forever! [Hooray!]
I have a phone. My current phone is the cheapest decent phone I could get. I upgraded from my Optimus V on Virgin Mobile with an LG Quantum C900, a QWERTY slider for Windows Phone 7.
I'll be honest - I like a few things about it. It's sturdy [I've dropped it facedown onto cobblestones without a screen protector], has a slideout keyboard [not the best ever but usable!], and was really cheap. Like, $80 cheap.
But it has realy annoying problems. The battery is decent, if I turn everything off, but it still dies after about two days of non-use. I'd like a very long battery. It's also faiirly impossible to use IRC on it because it auto-timeouts you [WP7 can't maintain an internet connection when the phone goes dark. Thanks microsoft!].
Because of this I think I'd like an Android phone. I'm on T-Mobile but can deal with 2g data [though I'd prefer 3G, obviously ...]. I've looked at Nokia's Symbian line and the ones I want seem to have horrid battery life or can't browse the web well enough [and I like doing that]. I also use my phone as a MP3 player, so it needs to be able to do that.
... So. Yes. Any phones that meet these requirements? Thanks for any suggestions.
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my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Newer iPhones fit all of these things, although they're not cheap. Unlocked phones for T-Mobile are E.X.P.E.N.S.I.V.E., even for the older iPhone 4's ($450 for an unlocked, $0 for AT&T/Verizon/Sprint). I say goo with an Android, although I have zero experience with those. Maybe a Galaxy S III (I hear good things about those)
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Newer iPhones fit all of these things, although they're not cheap. Unlocked phones for T-Mobile are E.X.P.E.N.S.I.V.E., even for the older iPhone 4's ($450 for an unlocked, $0 for AT&T/Verizon/Sprint). I say goo with an Android, although I have zero experience with those. Maybe a Galaxy S III (I hear good things about those)
Are you sure about the battery life? I can get an unlocked AT&T iPhone 4s for $300 right now, though I don't know how long that's going to be and I woudn't buy this phone until next month at the earliest. But I was worried that battery life wouldn't be that fantastic.
If it can last me a few days I'll jump on that bandwagon. I could also get an iPhone 4 from, say, eBay [$200-ish].
my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
With the battery life want there's really not any smartphones that are gonna fit the bill - if you can't charge regularly there's only a handful that will last more than 24 hrs with reasonable use during that timeframe. [And a good portion of them with a special battery that will negate most cases from being usable]
Music (especially Pandora) can chew through a battery in no time for every smartphone I've dealt with.
Now assuming you're willing to put aside the battery stuff - I'd honestly recommend waiting a couple weeks at this point - the next Nexus phones are expected to be announced in late October, and the Windows 8 phones (of which the Nokia looks to be AMAZING assuming Win8 doesn't blow for phones like W7P did) are due out Oct 26th.
Galaxy Nexus was the top end Android for a bit (#2 since the GS3) and being Google connected it's a bit more tighter in the loop for getting all updates and no bloatware. Assuming the next Nexus is in line with past offerings it should one-up the GS3.
[I'm a huge Nexus afficianado myself - but I will say the Nokia's specs has me intrigued - it's got AMAZING specs assuming Win8phone doesn't suck (and from the looks of the home OS, it might just be solid for touch devices - not keen on it as a desktop, but can see it being great with touch -- and supposedly it can emulate Android OS apps or something)]
He said two days of "non-use". That's standby time and most phones can actually go two days standby. I remember my Nokia 5800 could last for a week without being touched and my HTC Titan lasts 1.5 days with heavy, non-gaming use.
I'm actually surprised your Quantum could only last for two days and I think part of the problem was that you bought it used. If you're going to buy a used phone, make sure it has a removable battery and replace that battery.
Also, I'm surprised you're complaining about Wifi and 3G because those aren't helping your battery life. Even on Android, where you could leave them on, you're probably going to end up turning them off, anyways. Those things burn through your battery life.
Most $200+ smartphones (new) should suit your needs. I recommend a Galaxy Nexus or GSII just because there are a limited number of non-WP reasonably priced unlocked.
EDIT: If you want to preserve your Quantum, try replacing the battery and updating the OS if you haven't already. The Quantum supposed has 350 hrs standby and even for the most exaggerated rating systems that should be more than 2 days.
I can charge regularly, I just want the freedom to sometimes forget to charge. [Guess I'll just pack a charging thing in my bag, but ... ugh.]
Oh, one thing I didn't mention that's kind of important to me, though not crucial, is tethering. But I can definitely wait until the beginning of next month, if you think it's advisable.
I listen to music offline. It doesn't really chew through the battery much; I was more thinking of 'with light use, backlight switched to off'.
Like, I'm a little wary of Symbian/Maemo, but this: http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Unlocked-Computer-Touchscreen/product-reviews/B002OB49SW/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R1LSQB8TCS1Y5O
seems ... interesting.
@resonance: true. I mean, I use the ... music player a lot. >.>. The Quantum has a replaceable battery, but it also has other issues I forgot to mention [random hard resets when using any/every RSS reader chief among them] that I don't think a battery swap would necessarily fix. I'm aware wifi and 3g are battery hogs and if the battery's being used more with them on, that's okay, but I'd like the freedom to at least be able to use IRC if I want [I can't, really, now, and I'll be able to switch from my current $30-month plan to an unlimited so I'll want the features].
my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Don't purchase a Symbian phone if you want to listen to music. As a former Symbian user, I can tell you that listening to (offline) music will burn through all your battery in just several hours. The ARM11 architecture isn't doing you favors, even if it's deceitfully low clocked.
(Going from a Snapdragon S1 to an ARM11, you will find battery life works a lot differently running different processes for different processors. ARM11 is at its most impressive doing absolutely nothing, or standby.)
Ah my bad on non use - projecting a personal frustration of smart phones, heh. Love em but can't wait for batteries that go a week or so with reasonable use.
Hate having to charge before a day is over and never being able to forget a day/leave the charger behind on a trip like old standard cells - love the extra power but anxious for tech to make up for the battery life lost.
Hum.
After looking at a few usage graphs of different iPhone models on standby, I think I'm going to purchase an iPhone 4 (http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mobile/iPhone-3GS-4-4S-Battery-Life-Testing-Putting-Conjecture-Rest). I usually only stay with a phone for a year so it should be fine and updated until iOS 7, and afterwards, well, it'll retain some value and I'l do /something/ with it. Maybe will keep using it - it's not like it will break.
I'm already in the iOS walled garden [see iPad] so that shouldn't be a terrible problem.
Thanks for all the help.
*edit* Actually bought a 3GS, found one on eBay for $100. Thanks again.
my mouth is full of winsome lies -
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
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I have a phone. My current phone is the cheapest decent phone I could get. I upgraded from my Optimus V on Virgin Mobile with an LG Quantum C900, a QWERTY slider for Windows Phone 7.
I'll be honest - I like a few things about it. It's sturdy [I've dropped it facedown onto cobblestones without a screen protector], has a slideout keyboard [not the best ever but usable!], and was really cheap. Like, $80 cheap.
But it has realy annoying problems. The battery is decent, if I turn everything off, but it still dies after about two days of non-use. I'd like a very long battery. It's also faiirly impossible to use IRC on it because it auto-timeouts you [WP7 can't maintain an internet connection when the phone goes dark. Thanks microsoft!].
Because of this I think I'd like an Android phone. I'm on T-Mobile but can deal with 2g data [though I'd prefer 3G, obviously ...]. I've looked at Nokia's Symbian line and the ones I want seem to have horrid battery life or can't browse the web well enough [and I like doing that]. I also use my phone as a MP3 player, so it needs to be able to do that.
... So. Yes. Any phones that meet these requirements? Thanks for any suggestions.
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Are you sure about the battery life? I can get an unlocked AT&T iPhone 4s for $300 right now, though I don't know how long that's going to be and I woudn't buy this phone until next month at the earliest. But I was worried that battery life wouldn't be that fantastic.
If it can last me a few days I'll jump on that bandwagon. I could also get an iPhone 4 from, say, eBay [$200-ish].
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
Music (especially Pandora) can chew through a battery in no time for every smartphone I've dealt with.
Now assuming you're willing to put aside the battery stuff - I'd honestly recommend waiting a couple weeks at this point - the next Nexus phones are expected to be announced in late October, and the Windows 8 phones (of which the Nokia looks to be AMAZING assuming Win8 doesn't blow for phones like W7P did) are due out Oct 26th.
Galaxy Nexus was the top end Android for a bit (#2 since the GS3) and being Google connected it's a bit more tighter in the loop for getting all updates and no bloatware. Assuming the next Nexus is in line with past offerings it should one-up the GS3.
[I'm a huge Nexus afficianado myself - but I will say the Nokia's specs has me intrigued - it's got AMAZING specs assuming Win8phone doesn't suck (and from the looks of the home OS, it might just be solid for touch devices - not keen on it as a desktop, but can see it being great with touch -- and supposedly it can emulate Android OS apps or something)]
Re: People misusing the term Vanilla to describe a flying, unleash (sometimes trample) critter.
I'm actually surprised your Quantum could only last for two days and I think part of the problem was that you bought it used. If you're going to buy a used phone, make sure it has a removable battery and replace that battery.
Also, I'm surprised you're complaining about Wifi and 3G because those aren't helping your battery life. Even on Android, where you could leave them on, you're probably going to end up turning them off, anyways. Those things burn through your battery life.
Most $200+ smartphones (new) should suit your needs. I recommend a Galaxy Nexus or GSII just because there are a limited number of non-WP reasonably priced unlocked.
EDIT: If you want to preserve your Quantum, try replacing the battery and updating the OS if you haven't already. The Quantum supposed has 350 hrs standby and even for the most exaggerated rating systems that should be more than 2 days.
Oh, one thing I didn't mention that's kind of important to me, though not crucial, is tethering. But I can definitely wait until the beginning of next month, if you think it's advisable.
I listen to music offline. It doesn't really chew through the battery much; I was more thinking of 'with light use, backlight switched to off'.
Like, I'm a little wary of Symbian/Maemo, but this:
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Unlocked-Computer-Touchscreen/product-reviews/B002OB49SW/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R1LSQB8TCS1Y5O
seems ... interesting.
@resonance: true. I mean, I use the ... music player a lot. >.>. The Quantum has a replaceable battery, but it also has other issues I forgot to mention [random hard resets when using any/every RSS reader chief among them] that I don't think a battery swap would necessarily fix. I'm aware wifi and 3g are battery hogs and if the battery's being used more with them on, that's okay, but I'd like the freedom to at least be able to use IRC if I want [I can't, really, now, and I'll be able to switch from my current $30-month plan to an unlimited so I'll want the features].
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan
(Going from a Snapdragon S1 to an ARM11, you will find battery life works a lot differently running different processes for different processors. ARM11 is at its most impressive doing absolutely nothing, or standby.)
Hate having to charge before a day is over and never being able to forget a day/leave the charger behind on a trip like old standard cells - love the extra power but anxious for tech to make up for the battery life lost.
Re: People misusing the term Vanilla to describe a flying, unleash (sometimes trample) critter.
After looking at a few usage graphs of different iPhone models on standby, I think I'm going to purchase an iPhone 4 (http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Mobile/iPhone-3GS-4-4S-Battery-Life-Testing-Putting-Conjecture-Rest). I usually only stay with a phone for a year so it should be fine and updated until iOS 7, and afterwards, well, it'll retain some value and I'l do /something/ with it. Maybe will keep using it - it's not like it will break.
I'm already in the iOS walled garden [see iPad] so that shouldn't be a terrible problem.
Thanks for all the help.
*edit* Actually bought a 3GS, found one on eBay for $100. Thanks again.
and eyes are full of death besides
but luckily the soul is wise -
it sees beyond my blindness and
forced failure makes a better guise,
so as i come again alive,
it feels like life's a decent plan