i play under the name "not player" i was playing a zoo deck (crappy 2 goyfs, 2 nacatals, ramgangs,finks) you know not as good as it could be. im plaing this dude dont rember his name and he is playing countertop.
t1. i drop forest,nacatal
t2 he goes island, top
t3 i go plains goyf
t4 counteballance
for the rest of the game he counters my stuff making my goyf bigger.
in the end he says. omg ur a noob for beating up guys on mws with goyf sligh.
the whole time he was pumping my goyf by countering my stuff lol. i had no fetches or ways to pump my own dude (he even counter my zoetic cavern as a 2/2 creature wich put a land in my yard)
Was this from a while back or something? Wait - you have Nacatl. Top has been banned for more than two years. So he was playing an illegal deck - unless you were playing "uber" casual, the world of 4 of each Mox.
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"If you don't wear your seatbelt, the police will shoot you in the head."
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
So he was playing Legacy? I still like my theory of uber casual. If you ever get a chance to try it, don't. Its the place where every banned/restricted card clusters together, creating dark and scary places.
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"If you don't wear your seatbelt, the police will shoot you in the head."
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
I started a game called "T2 Testing" and had a guy called "CT" join.
We started playing, he was playing some kind of five colour cascade with Wurms, Vampire Nighthawk, Ajani Vengeant etc. He started, and I was slowly but steadily burning or bouncing everything he played.
I had a couple of Howling Mines out, and he remarked "digging for your ascension?". I think he thought I was playing the Pyromancer Ascension RU deck floating around.
Anyway, on Turn 13, he had a Wurm and a Nighthawk on the board, I was on 15, he was on 18.
At the beginning of his turn, I Runeflare trapped him for 10, then Twincast it.
His comment:
"yup interesting noob deck"
<System> Player Lost
If you're going to JOIN a game saying "T2 Testing", you should probably EXPECT some "noob decks", but don't have a cry when they beat you.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
DH, you actually look like an butthole in that last log. You didn't even try to explain how saccing works.
Anyways, I really hate when people get caught cheating and leave without saying anything.
Shino plays Mountain from Hand
Shino taps Mountain
Shino taps Dragonskull Summit
Shino taps Swamp
Shino taps Mountain
Shino plays Bloodbraid Elf from Hand
Shino puts Plains into play from Library
<Hix360> no
Shino puts Lightning Bolt into play from Library
<Hix360> you have no green mana
(The points at me with the Lightning Bolt)
<Hix360> ...no
<System> Player Lost
I'd imagine he was trying to break your Lotus before you got to your main phase, but assuming that's ANT it generally doesn't matter. As soon as he says 'response to sac' though, you know he's off the deep end.
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Lolman plays River of Tears from Hand
Lolman taps River of Tears
Lolman taps Underground River
Lolman taps Swamp
Lolman's life total is now 15 (-1)
Lolman plays Tolaria West from Hand
Lolman puts Tolaria West to Graveyard from Play
<Peperono> Wait
Lolman is looking its Biblioteca...
Lolman shuffles library
Lolman stops looking its Biblioteca...
<Peperono> it makes a black
<Lolman> Ok
<Peperono> you played it this turn
<Lolman> add first obviously
<Lolman> i did it fast
<Peperono> XP
But it was fast!
<Iguish> End my turn
It is now turn 3 (Peperono)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Peperono untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Peperono draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Peperono plays Wasteland from Hand
Peperono taps Wasteland
Peperono puts Wasteland to Graveyard from Play
<Peperono> kill it
Iguish puts Tropical Island to Graveyard from Play
Peperono plays The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale from Hand
Peperono taps Taiga
Peperono taps Taiga
Peperono plays Life from the Loam from Hand
Peperono puts Wasteland into play from Graveyard
Peperono puts Tranquil Thicket into play from Graveyard
Peperono puts Life from the Loam to Graveyard from Play
Peperono puts Tranquil Thicket to Hand from Play
Peperono puts Wasteland to Hand from Play
<Iguish> ok gg
<System> Player Lost
More priority nightmares from an EDH game last night.
I'm test driving Mirri the Cursed and my opponent is playing Rofellos, Llaowar Emissary. Normally I get pretty sick and tired of playing against Rofellos for the umpteenth time on MWS, but I decide to stick this one out since it was like my second game with Mirri and I was itching to play her.
Surging Chaos taps Swamp
Surging Chaos taps Swamp
Surging Chaos taps Cabal Coffers (I add 6 black to my pool thanks to an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in play; I show this on my mana pool)
Surging Chaos plays Oblivion Stone from Hand
Surging Chaos taps Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Surging Chaos taps Swamp
Surging Chaos taps Oblivion Stone (using the 3 black leftover in my pool plus tapping two more lands to pop Stone)
Surging Chaos sacrifices Oblivion Stone
<Surging Chaos> Resolves?
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> resp
PMN71 taps Snow-Covered Forest
PMN71 taps Snow-Covered Forest
PMN71 taps Snow-Covered Forest
PMN71 plays Krosan Grip from Hand
<PMN71> stone
<Surging Chaos> umm I never passed priority
<PMN71> its instant idiot
<PMN71> read the card
<Surging Chaos> you can only cast stuff when you have priority
<Surging Chaos> you let O-stone resolve and that passes priority back to me
<Surging Chaos> so I sac it immediately before passing priority
<PMN71> noob doesnt know how instants work
<PMN71> bye
<System> Player Lost
An opponent playing Hypergenesis Cascaded into Dead/Gone. He refused to believe me that its had two converted mana costed (even though its printed on the card....). I politely explained to him that the lower cost meets the requirements of Cascade, but he had the chance to play either side. He got fustrated and left.
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"If you don't wear your seatbelt, the police will shoot you in the head."
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
Elephant Grass now has 1 (+1) counters.
<Tatu> it's on unkeep
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
Peperono untaps Forest
Peperono taps Forest
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
<Tatu> you cant anymore
<Tatu> it's on unkeep
<Peperono> ...
<Tatu> you're iin main phase
<Peperono> you knew my play for the turn was a 2 drop anyways
<Tatu> but...you forgot
<Tatu> magic is done by mistakes
<Peperono> and are we in a tournament?
<Tatu> too
<Tatu> no..but it can make you lose the game
<Peperono> or on a testing program
<Tatu> testing program
<Tatu> but I can lose of it
<Tatu> you kbow
<Tatu> I cant atack anymore
<Tatu> and it's the diference of game
<Peperono> well it is accumlitative
<Peperono> so i cant accually keep it up forever
<Tatu> you didnt pay...so it's destroyed
<Tatu> on your unkeep
<Peperono> wow....
<Peperono> welcome to MTG salvation
<Tatu> ok
<Tatu> I cant do anything man..you forgot..
<Tatu> I've forgot vial
<Tatu> too
<Tatu> and I didnt back
<Peperono> um yes yo udid....
<Peperono> you*
<Tatu> I had to put a counter in the other game
<Tatu> I forgot..I didnt put
<Peperono> and you still played oyur creature the turn before
<Peperono> at my eot
<Tatu> you that choose..if you wont leave me back or not
<Peperono> hold on
<Tatu> sry
<Peperono> wernt you the one who casted the gatekeeper
<Tatu> It can make me win the game
<Peperono> with the vial?
<Peperono> and that made me lose that game
<Tatu> you leave me back...
<Peperono> yes
<Peperono> because this isnt a highly competitive tournament
<Tatu> but I dont have to leave you back
<Peperono> wow
Ok, so im playing enchantress, he's playing some legacy vamps.
TWICE earlier (it was game 3) he made a misplay, and i let him take it back because we were trying to test our decks, not our patience, once he dropped a gatekeeper with vial, and cast a bloodghast, and tried to kicker the gatekeeper, i told him he couldnt, and i let him do it the other way around, i lost that game because he killed my only enchantress effect in play.
The second time, he forgot to use his vial at the end of my turn, and he was in upkeep, but i didnt mind much so i let him take it back, and play his lacerator.
This time, he had just duress'd me, and i had popped an enlightened tutor, so he knew what was on top of my library, and what was in my hand, i had no 3 drops and 3 mana, only 1 2 drop, and an elephant grass in play. Hmm, i don't think my draw would make much of a difference, in a tournament i would have said, "meh, that sucks" and played on, but this is freaking testing, and i even let him get 2 by's one of which almost cost me the game, and the other one did.
Just now when playing my casual Hypergenesis. With it being a popular extended deck now it sucks when people get pissed at me for playing it considering I made it up without ever looking up a list.
At this point I had just resolved Hypergenesis...
<Jotun> Thinking
Jotun plays Spearbreaker Behemoth from Hand
<Jotun> you
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Harmonize
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Harmonize
<Jotun> lands
<The Beast> And why would I still play?
<Jotun> ok...
<The Beast> At this point you drop enough power to kill me in one hit
<Jotun> g2 then?
<The Beast> That's a tournament deck you're running. I SPECIFICALLY said "no sertious decks" you have a reading problem?
<Jotun> no mine has gifts
<Jotun> and ****** creatures
<Jotun> like spitebellows
<The Beast> You call BOGARDAN HELLKITE a ****** creature? You really are that dumb
<System> Player Lost
<Jotun> lol
I can't stand people like you Moonshield. You ruin fun in games that are meant to be fun. I don't care how good a deck builder you are the deck is dumb and not casual.
Uh huh, considering I haven't played at an FNM in over 2 years and I made the deck with real cards from my own collection, AND it loses to my friend's crappy graft deck? Like I said, the extended version of the deck ruined people's opinion of Hypergenesis. My version of the deck is certainly casual. Keep an open mind will ya.
You know, the funny thing is, everyone has a warped conception of casual.
I have played against friends who run baneslayers and memory jars and boom // bust and still call their decks casual, and I agree with them.
I also know several people who would scream 'serious' for seeing any of those cards, whether or not it's a good deck.
Also, Bogardan Hellkite is by no means a serious card. That is a casual card. I don't even think there's room for debate on that one. The only serious decks I can think of that did/might run it are Warp World (current) and D-storm (RAV-TSP standard)
The real funny thing is that no one considered Hypergenesis a "serious" deck until Austin. They would quite because your deck wasn't "serious" enough. They would also quite because your "casual" deck steam rolled them.
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"If you don't wear your seatbelt, the police will shoot you in the head."
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
Tidespout Tyrant now has 0 (-1) counters.
Peperono taps Swamp
Akroma, Angel of Fury now has 0 (-1) counters.
Bogardan Hellkite now has 2 (-1) counters.
Peperono plays Doom Blade from Hand
<Peperono> before the akroma
<Sunite> Ok
<Sunite> Ok
<Peperono> can't it dosnt count itself
<Sunite> it does
<Sunite> u can stack itself
<Sunite> so the ability
<Sunite> its doesnt say
<Sunite> 'other'
<Peperono> no, it isn't a spell, the only time it is a spell is when it is not in play, it only has the ability as long as it is in play
<Sunite> tell me how does the ability for
<Sunite> demigod work
<Sunite> why can u stack it
<Sunite> like that?
<Sunite> and i cant stack
<Peperono> you can't, but it says when it comes into play, not when you cast a spell
<Sunite> wouldnt wizards of printed it as 'other' if u cant?
<Sunite> why would they complicate it with whenever?
<Peperono> no, find me one other card from rav on that says other and when you cast a spell
<Peperono> because you cast a spell and return a permanent sounds dumb?
<Sunite> ok another example flame kin zerlot
<Sunite> does it gain haste?
<Peperono> again, it says when it comes into play
<Sunite> ur a ****** man
<System> Player Lost
<Peperono> so yes, it does not say when you cast a spell
Just wow... he thought that tidespout tyrant counted itself as a spell, and when i tried to explain how it didn't he called me a ****** and left, is it just me or can no-one get a decent game past 8pm? (which is a little ridiculous...).
And to think... the M10 rules changes were designed intentionally to clear up THESE EXACT KINDS OF AMBIGUITIES between subtly different clauses such as "comes into play", "put into play", "when you play", etc.
I guess some people are just stupid no matter what happens. *shrug*
That was confusing but yes tidespout tyrant's ability only works while it's in play and I would have actually said those exact words to help him understand.
That was confusing but yes tidespout tyrant's ability only works while it's in play and I would have actually said those exact words to help him understand.
I would have yelled at him for being the X'th person to argue with me over common rules.
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"If you don't wear your seatbelt, the police will shoot you in the head."
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
Was this from a while back or something? Wait - you have Nacatl. Top has been banned for more than two years. So he was playing an illegal deck - unless you were playing "uber" casual, the world of 4 of each Mox.
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
We started playing, he was playing some kind of five colour cascade with Wurms, Vampire Nighthawk, Ajani Vengeant etc. He started, and I was slowly but steadily burning or bouncing everything he played.
I had a couple of Howling Mines out, and he remarked "digging for your ascension?". I think he thought I was playing the Pyromancer Ascension RU deck floating around.
Anyway, on Turn 13, he had a Wurm and a Nighthawk on the board, I was on 15, he was on 18.
At the beginning of his turn, I Runeflare trapped him for 10, then Twincast it.
His comment:
"yup interesting noob deck"
<System> Player Lost
If you're going to JOIN a game saying "T2 Testing", you should probably EXPECT some "noob decks", but don't have a cry when they beat you.
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Anyways, I really hate when people get caught cheating and leave without saying anything.
Shino taps Mountain
Shino taps Dragonskull Summit
Shino taps Swamp
Shino taps Mountain
Shino plays Bloodbraid Elf from Hand
Shino puts Plains into play from Library
<Hix360> no
Shino puts Lightning Bolt into play from Library
<Hix360> you have no green mana
(The points at me with the Lightning Bolt)
<Hix360> ...no
<System> Player Lost
Lolman plays River of Tears from Hand
Lolman taps River of Tears
Lolman taps Underground River
Lolman taps Swamp
Lolman's life total is now 15 (-1)
Lolman plays Tolaria West from Hand
Lolman puts Tolaria West to Graveyard from Play
<Peperono> Wait
Lolman is looking its Biblioteca...
Lolman shuffles library
Lolman stops looking its Biblioteca...
<Peperono> it makes a black
<Lolman> Ok
<Peperono> you played it this turn
<Lolman> add first obviously
<Lolman> i did it fast
<Peperono> XP
But it was fast!
<Iguish> End my turn
It is now turn 3 (Peperono)
It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
Peperono untaps his/her permanents
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
Peperono draws a card
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
Peperono plays Wasteland from Hand
Peperono taps Wasteland
Peperono puts Wasteland to Graveyard from Play
<Peperono> kill it
Iguish puts Tropical Island to Graveyard from Play
Peperono plays The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale from Hand
Peperono taps Taiga
Peperono taps Taiga
Peperono plays Life from the Loam from Hand
Peperono puts Wasteland into play from Graveyard
Peperono puts Tranquil Thicket into play from Graveyard
Peperono puts Life from the Loam to Graveyard from Play
Peperono puts Tranquil Thicket to Hand from Play
Peperono puts Wasteland to Hand from Play
<Iguish> ok gg
<System> Player Lost
Yay, turn 2 forfeit then quit!
I'm test driving Mirri the Cursed and my opponent is playing Rofellos, Llaowar Emissary. Normally I get pretty sick and tired of playing against Rofellos for the umpteenth time on MWS, but I decide to stick this one out since it was like my second game with Mirri and I was itching to play her.
Surging Chaos taps Swamp
Surging Chaos taps Swamp
Surging Chaos taps Cabal Coffers (I add 6 black to my pool thanks to an Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in play; I show this on my mana pool)
Surging Chaos plays Oblivion Stone from Hand
Surging Chaos taps Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Surging Chaos taps Swamp
Surging Chaos taps Oblivion Stone (using the 3 black leftover in my pool plus tapping two more lands to pop Stone)
Surging Chaos sacrifices Oblivion Stone
<Surging Chaos> Resolves?
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> Wait!
<PMN71> resp
PMN71 taps Snow-Covered Forest
PMN71 taps Snow-Covered Forest
PMN71 taps Snow-Covered Forest
PMN71 plays Krosan Grip from Hand
<PMN71> stone
<Surging Chaos> umm I never passed priority
<PMN71> its instant idiot
<PMN71> read the card
<Surging Chaos> you can only cast stuff when you have priority
<Surging Chaos> you let O-stone resolve and that passes priority back to me
<Surging Chaos> so I sac it immediately before passing priority
<PMN71> noob doesnt know how instants work
<PMN71> bye
<System> Player Lost
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
<Tatu> it's on unkeep
It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
Peperono untaps Forest
Peperono taps Forest
It is now the Precombat Main Phase
<Tatu> you cant anymore
<Tatu> it's on unkeep
<Peperono> ...
<Tatu> you're iin main phase
<Peperono> you knew my play for the turn was a 2 drop anyways
<Tatu> but...you forgot
<Tatu> magic is done by mistakes
<Peperono> and are we in a tournament?
<Tatu> too
<Tatu> no..but it can make you lose the game
<Peperono> or on a testing program
<Tatu> testing program
<Tatu> but I can lose of it
<Tatu> you kbow
<Tatu> I cant atack anymore
<Tatu> and it's the diference of game
<Peperono> well it is accumlitative
<Peperono> so i cant accually keep it up forever
<Tatu> you didnt pay...so it's destroyed
<Tatu> on your unkeep
<Peperono> wow....
<Peperono> welcome to MTG salvation
<Tatu> ok
<Tatu> I cant do anything man..you forgot..
<Tatu> I've forgot vial
<Tatu> too
<Tatu> and I didnt back
<Peperono> um yes yo udid....
<Peperono> you*
<Tatu> I had to put a counter in the other game
<Tatu> I forgot..I didnt put
<Peperono> and you still played oyur creature the turn before
<Peperono> at my eot
<Tatu> you that choose..if you wont leave me back or not
<Peperono> hold on
<Tatu> sry
<Peperono> wernt you the one who casted the gatekeeper
<Tatu> It can make me win the game
<Peperono> with the vial?
<Peperono> and that made me lose that game
<Tatu> you leave me back...
<Peperono> yes
<Peperono> because this isnt a highly competitive tournament
<Tatu> but I dont have to leave you back
<Peperono> wow
Ok, so im playing enchantress, he's playing some legacy vamps.
TWICE earlier (it was game 3) he made a misplay, and i let him take it back because we were trying to test our decks, not our patience, once he dropped a gatekeeper with vial, and cast a bloodghast, and tried to kicker the gatekeeper, i told him he couldnt, and i let him do it the other way around, i lost that game because he killed my only enchantress effect in play.
The second time, he forgot to use his vial at the end of my turn, and he was in upkeep, but i didnt mind much so i let him take it back, and play his lacerator.
This time, he had just duress'd me, and i had popped an enlightened tutor, so he knew what was on top of my library, and what was in my hand, i had no 3 drops and 3 mana, only 1 2 drop, and an elephant grass in play. Hmm, i don't think my draw would make much of a difference, in a tournament i would have said, "meh, that sucks" and played on, but this is freaking testing, and i even let him get 2 by's one of which almost cost me the game, and the other one did.
At this point I had just resolved Hypergenesis...
<Jotun> Thinking
Jotun plays Spearbreaker Behemoth from Hand
<Jotun> you
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Harmonize
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Forest
The Beast reveals a Harmonize
<Jotun> lands
<The Beast> And why would I still play?
<Jotun> ok...
<The Beast> At this point you drop enough power to kill me in one hit
<Jotun> g2 then?
<The Beast> That's a tournament deck you're running. I SPECIFICALLY said "no sertious decks" you have a reading problem?
<Jotun> no mine has gifts
<Jotun> and ****** creatures
<Jotun> like spitebellows
<The Beast> You call BOGARDAN HELLKITE a ****** creature? You really are that dumb
<System> Player Lost
<Jotun> lol
He bolted before I could even talk...
The Saga of Arkay
Uh huh, considering I haven't played at an FNM in over 2 years and I made the deck with real cards from my own collection, AND it loses to my friend's crappy graft deck? Like I said, the extended version of the deck ruined people's opinion of Hypergenesis. My version of the deck is certainly casual. Keep an open mind will ya.
The Saga of Arkay
I have played against friends who run baneslayers and memory jars and boom // bust and still call their decks casual, and I agree with them.
I also know several people who would scream 'serious' for seeing any of those cards, whether or not it's a good deck.
Also, Bogardan Hellkite is by no means a serious card. That is a casual card. I don't even think there's room for debate on that one. The only serious decks I can think of that did/might run it are Warp World (current) and D-storm (RAV-TSP standard)
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Peperono taps Swamp
Akroma, Angel of Fury now has 0 (-1) counters.
Bogardan Hellkite now has 2 (-1) counters.
Peperono plays Doom Blade from Hand
<Peperono> before the akroma
<Sunite> Ok
<Sunite> Ok
<Peperono> can't it dosnt count itself
<Sunite> it does
<Sunite> u can stack itself
<Sunite> so the ability
<Sunite> its doesnt say
<Sunite> 'other'
<Peperono> no, it isn't a spell, the only time it is a spell is when it is not in play, it only has the ability as long as it is in play
<Sunite> tell me how does the ability for
<Sunite> demigod work
<Sunite> why can u stack it
<Sunite> like that?
<Sunite> and i cant stack
<Peperono> you can't, but it says when it comes into play, not when you cast a spell
<Sunite> wouldnt wizards of printed it as 'other' if u cant?
<Sunite> why would they complicate it with whenever?
<Peperono> no, find me one other card from rav on that says other and when you cast a spell
<Peperono> because you cast a spell and return a permanent sounds dumb?
<Sunite> ok another example flame kin zerlot
<Sunite> does it gain haste?
<Peperono> again, it says when it comes into play
<Sunite> ur a ****** man
<System> Player Lost
<Peperono> so yes, it does not say when you cast a spell
Just wow... he thought that tidespout tyrant counted itself as a spell, and when i tried to explain how it didn't he called me a ****** and left, is it just me or can no-one get a decent game past 8pm? (which is a little ridiculous...).
Sigh.
And to think... the M10 rules changes were designed intentionally to clear up THESE EXACT KINDS OF AMBIGUITIES between subtly different clauses such as "comes into play", "put into play", "when you play", etc.
I guess some people are just stupid no matter what happens. *shrug*
If one person tells me something, depending on what it is i may just say there wrong and move on, but if 2 or more people do, i look alot deeper.
I would have yelled at him for being the X'th person to argue with me over common rules.
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
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