Anyway, believe me when I say that we are very, very close to finishing this. We want the world 100% done when we start -- that means all the city threads, mechanics, all that stuff posted/worked out. We're not quite there yet, but soon, very soon... I do see where you're coming from, and I apologize for having it take this long.
Wow. If you honestly believe this is true, you are in for quite a surprise. This is a blatant lie in my opinion. What do we have done? Well, we have a traveling system. That is IT! We don't even have a name of our region because Daftmouse wants to change it for no apparent reason. Sure we have 9 cities, but don't we want more? Daftmouse himself said he wanted this game to have a significantly larger number of cities than in a normal game. A normal game probably has 15, so we are not sticking with 9. I refuse. Plus, in those cities, what do we have? We have some general ideas. Only 3/9 cities have at least single post in them. We haven't even finished a third of our established cities when we will probably end up with more than double what we have now. I am bringing in ideas which are mostly being ignored by you both when we desperately need some motion. Moreover, you both have barely been paying any attention to the game. Everytime I come online, I see at least on of you online, so you clearly have the time online, but neither have you have posted something of substance that has progressed the development of the game in this forum in over a week. We have made no progress since I showed up a while ago. This is a big commitment of time, especailly in this preliminary phase, and it is not going to get easier. When you add quests, and routes, and player questions, and player complaints on top of dealing with me and changes to the game, we are going to have to spend a large percentage of our free time on this website leading this game. Seeing that you both have gone many days with minimum posting and without an inactivity post or anything, I doubt you will be able to handle being WPLs. We have a lot of things to discuss, and the players are waiting patiently, for the most part. Immersa is our most active player, and (s)he just announced that (s)he was beinging to be annoyed by the wait. If we keep stalling, we will open a game to an empty audience, which will make all our work completly pointless. Plus, when we dont start in a week and they all discover that we weren't in fact very, very close to starting, they are going to get even more upset, so why set them up for dissappointment with this post? Lets actually start getting stuff done so that we can open this game. If it is going to take more than a week (which it will), we can open the Pre-game to give our players a chance to play/make it so they do not quit on us. This game is dead right now, so it is up to us to give it some life. Now lets talk share our ideas logically, compromise, and make a fantastic game!
Just so you know, in 24 hours, I am going to start the game. I do not care if you simply delete it, but I am going to start the game in my own image. I will start the game on my own UNLESS you both post in this subforum something relevant explaining your ideas about the game to me. So far, you have failed to do so, so I am going to assume that you agree with what I say since you have failed to back up everything you have said. So post. Prove to me that you actually care about this game.
-Videojuegos
PS: Another thought came to me, which is the possibility that you both are planing the game without me, and then will simply outvote me. You both seem very passionate, so it is hard for me to imagine you all just giving up and not posting. Or, you are waiting for Nai to respond to the PM to kick me out. Well, if either of these are true, would you at least have the decency to tell me?
EDIT: I was not kiding about that, I've just been busy in RL. Next time I have a few hours this game is starting
I still intend on being an active player, but if I will be active on a dead game, even I have my limits.
I also do not want to start playing until all the WPL's for this RPG are in accord with one another
I'm also going to wait until all of the WPL's are ready to start the game before I start playing.
In my opinion, these comments speak for themselves. We have two types of players. One group wants the best game possible, and one group want to go as soon as possible. We need to start doing something to keep the first group, but we need to do it quickly (or, actually do it, for a start) to keep the second group. Now let's get working! Lets try to start a Pre-Game to make everyone happy(it's a quick start and people seem to want it). Is anyone there?
For Froxy, I believe so. For me, partially but it is more that Froxy left combined with the fact that if we try to lead together we will just buttheads too much and accomplish nothing.
And even if it isn't my vision, I'd rather have the game going then not... however if I am in place as a WPL I will want it to be close to me vision, sorry, i just don't think it will work.
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Dry up, O Sea.
Burn out, O Sun.
Grant us power Earthly Leaders and Gatekeepers of Hell.
Guide us Makers of the Underworld.
I'm sorry Videojuegos, but you ruined this for me. I was all excited to work with my bud Daftmouse here, as we shared many, many of the same ideas, but I get a second/...third factor that prevents those ideas from fruition.
I'm done, now. Do what you want. I won't be here to play along.
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Honestly, I think if we were to butt heads, explain our mutual reasoning, and compromise, we would accomplish something. When I led MTG:RPG with Ti'rin (by the way, he was such a hard-ass about everything that I had to do the same to keep up, which is why I still act that way), we didn't agree on anything. So we would argue and find a compromise. The game was great during that time and it still is to this day. Why are you so sure the game will stall if we try to compromise?
Daftmouse (and Froxy-if you still care): I am still open to ideas. I have not blocked myself off. I am asking for reasons/explanations. If you guys have such a good system together that you worked out, let me hear what you want and let me hear WHY. I was never trying to prevent your ideas, only to understand them, and I still don't.
Just because it isn't your vision doesn't mean you wont enjoy it. For example, when I made that first map, I thought it was my vision and I would never want anything else. But then, I made the second map with a lot of your ideas, and it quickly became my vision of perfection. All I am saying is that sometimes, you end up being happier with a compromise than you think you will be.
Don't quit. I honestly don't see any reason for you to do so. If you must, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do. You and your ideas had a lot of potential, and I am sorry that you are just giving up on them like this.
Just so you know, in 24 hours, I am going to start the game. I do not care if you simply delete it, but I am going to start the game in my own image. I will start the game on my own UNLESS you both post in this subforum something relevant explaining your ideas about the game to me. So far, you have failed to do so, so I am going to assume that you agree with what I say since you have failed to back up everything you have said. So post. Prove to me that you actually care about this game.
-Videojuegos
PS: Another thought came to me, which is the possibility that you both are planing the game without me, and then will simply outvote me. You both seem very passionate, so it is hard for me to imagine you all just giving up and not posting. Or, you are waiting for Nai to respond to the PM to kick me out. Well, if either of these are true, would you at least have the decency to tell me?
EDIT: I was not kiding about that, I've just been busy in RL. Next time I have a few hours this game is starting
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I think I have too but I'm not 100% certain.
Dry up, O Sea.
Burn out, O Sun.
Grant us power Earthly Leaders and Gatekeepers of Hell.
Guide us Makers of the Underworld.
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For Froxy, I believe so. For me, partially but it is more that Froxy left combined with the fact that if we try to lead together we will just buttheads too much and accomplish nothing.
And even if it isn't my vision, I'd rather have the game going then not... however if I am in place as a WPL I will want it to be close to me vision, sorry, i just don't think it will work.
Dry up, O Sea.
Burn out, O Sun.
Grant us power Earthly Leaders and Gatekeepers of Hell.
Guide us Makers of the Underworld.
I'm sorry Videojuegos, but you ruined this for me. I was all excited to work with my bud Daftmouse here, as we shared many, many of the same ideas, but I get a second/...third factor that prevents those ideas from fruition.
I'm done, now. Do what you want. I won't be here to play along.
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About Frox: for nearly 10 years, Frox has been helping women look good and feel great in easy-fit, mix-and-match, and work-to-weekend with just a few pieces by helping them make the right choices when it comes to clothing and accessories.
Daftmouse (and Froxy-if you still care): I am still open to ideas. I have not blocked myself off. I am asking for reasons/explanations. If you guys have such a good system together that you worked out, let me hear what you want and let me hear WHY. I was never trying to prevent your ideas, only to understand them, and I still don't.
Just because it isn't your vision doesn't mean you wont enjoy it. For example, when I made that first map, I thought it was my vision and I would never want anything else. But then, I made the second map with a lot of your ideas, and it quickly became my vision of perfection. All I am saying is that sometimes, you end up being happier with a compromise than you think you will be.
Don't quit. I honestly don't see any reason for you to do so. If you must, I'm sorry that you feel the way you do. You and your ideas had a lot of potential, and I am sorry that you are just giving up on them like this.
Credit for banner goes to: a passer by
World of Pokemon---------------------------Michael Syne
Magic the RPG-------------------------------Forace
Community Project(Fantasy)-----------------Sammy Matthews
Disegreth-----------------------------------Sussania
The Pen and Paper Inn(Project PlanarChaos)--Valarie Liadon