The crazy thing is this is only like 2000 dollars worth of stuff.
Who the hell steals 2000 from the place they fracking work? I don't care how much shrinkage goes on at the store, but you bet your ass that's going to be investigated and it's going to come back and bite you in the ass.
And 2000 is such a small sum. I could understand if it was an order of magnitude larger, but 2000 isn't going to make him rich, isn't going to do much of anything.
The whole motive of everything is maddeningly confusing.
I am personally holding out judgement till we get a more complete view of the story as things are obviously missing from the story, as if this post is truth then the theft was more than 50 copies of the top 4 card in avr.
I am personally holding out judgement till we get a more complete view of the story as things are obviously missing from the story, as if this post is truth then the theft was more than 50 copies of the top 4 card in avr.
Read more carefully. The author is comparing two different events, and saying they produce the same reaction.
Edit: Also maybe this is their site sucking, but the top says it's written by Heather Meek and the bottom is signed Jonathan Medina.
Edit 2: It looks like J Medina did the commentary and Heather Meek compiled the tweets, so I guess that solves the author mystery.
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What is going on? Why do people feel sorry for thieves, again?
He was stealing. He obviously doesnt care what the impact from those actions causes, so why should we care or feel bad for him now that he is blackballed?
There is a time and place for compassion. It is not here.
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
Lol, Monk has long since been over as a TV show. I assume you mean a re-run. But I will award points for the joke anyway.
But yeah, reading through the responses to this it sounds like something out of an episode of CSI. Either the guy stole the cards himself, or he was framed. If some other thief stole the cards, hacked into the guy's account and sells them. The only reason you do that is if you specifically want that guy to get in trouble for it. Because if I have a lot of money's worth of stolen cards, I can just as easily sell the stolen product by other means.
Really? Funny, I haven't watched actual TV (other than football) for at least a year. Thanks to Netflix on my TV with no commercials, I have no reason to (again, other than football).
I'd be very surprised to find out that TSG didn't steal the cards. How easy is it for him just to grab a chunk of cards and go? Too easy apparently.
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From the CFB announcement: ChannelFireball arranged for cards to be purchased from “eldraziseller,” and the PayPal account to which payment was made was registered to “Tristan Gregson Gregson.”
The police confronted Tristan Shaun Gregson, and he admitted to owning the “eldraziseller” account. Since the police’s questioning, Tristan Shaun Gregson has ignored ChannelFireball management’s multiple attempts to contact him. In light of the above, ChannelFireball has chosen to sever all ties with Tristan.
So where does it say he admitted to taking the cards? Admitting the eBay account is his does not mean he necessarily took the cards.
It was 50 copies of 4 of the top AVR rares. It really comes down to how close it is to the actual list of stolen cards, because it's not an every day occurrence that that many cards get put up on ebay. Again... if TSG was known for doing this kind of selling all the time, then it wouldn't be suspicious but until someone corrects me saying that this sort of business is common, I'm going to assume it is suspicious. It depends on how close the totals are, so if it's 52 cards that were stolen... and 55 cards that appeared on ebay. That's close enough. Because you can just as easily add 3 cards to your own collection to get to that total. If it's off by 10, then that's when you get into the gray area.
But the fact that a single person is selling such a high amount of 4 specific cards, all from one set.... it's suspicious as well. Usually (and again, correct me if I'm wrong) when one person is selling 50 cards... they are selling a bulk of their collection and it might be 12 playsets of a bunch of the top rares in the format and they want to get rid of them for whatever reason. It's rarely 12 copies of 4 specific cards all from the same set. Some stores don't even have that kind of stock available to sell, let alone one person.
It's from that perspective that this looks really bad for TSG. If it were literally 4 copies of ONE card that were stolen, well **** everyone has a playset of the top rares in the set, and it's not normal to sell them (especially if they are selling well).
Like I said, anybody with the internet can find precedent from the eldraziseller completed history for TSG selling bulk quantities of other chase rares from the very same set. Again, he was selling playsets of at least Cavern, Tamiyo, Bonfire, Entreat, Resto Angel & Griselbrand. CFB specifically said (50 copies of) 4 AVR cards.
It may seem like I'm trying to defend TSG or cast doubt on CFB. Not at all. Just pointing out it may be difficult to prove in court. Which is why I'm assuming they have some sort of other evidence. I must admit that I'm curious, even though it's none of my business.
Like I said, anybody with the internet can find precedent from the eldraziseller completed history for TSG selling bulk quantities of other chase rares from the very same set. Again, he was selling playsets of at least Cavern, Tamiyo, Bonfire, Entreat, Resto Angel & Griselbrand. CFB specifically said (50 copies of) 4 AVR cards.
It may seem like I'm trying to defend TSG or cast doubt on CFB. Not at all. Just pointing out it may be difficult to prove in court. Which is why I'm assuming they have some sort of other evidence. I must admit that I'm curious, even though it's none of my business.
Well, again... if someone wants to link said ebay report I wouldn't mind looking through it. If there were 50 copies of 4 other rares that weren't stolen from CFB, then that makes him look more innocent for the same reason.
I just tried to google eldraziseller and ebay and came up empty handed.
TSG is innocent. Innocent until PROVEN guilty is how the court system works in America. Not only that, as others have stated, where's the motive? He already made good money at CFB, traveled the country, was admired by many in the community and got to do magic for a living.
It's very bizarre to me that people just assume that he's guilty without full evidence. It's akin to Salem Witch Trials. ACCOUNTS GET HACKED people. Identities get stolen. This stuff happens. The reason TSG has refused to contact CFB is because that's what you do when you're accused of Grand Larceny. You keep silent, let your lawyer do the talking.
You know what percentage of innocent people in this country are incarcerated for crimes they weren't guilty of? It's higher than you think. And most of the time the reason it happens is because the party said or did things to incriminate themselves after the fact and that evidence was used to paint the suspect in a certain light so as to better find them guilty. On top of which a lot of prosecutors in this country are so narrowly focused that they become less interested in justice and more interested in winning.
That was a little tangential on my part, but I get tired of people yelling "Look there's a witch! Burn them!" at the first sign of trouble. Give people the benefit of the doubt, hold onto your true feelings for them your compassion and caring until it's PROVEN that they're not worthy of them.
Technically you are neither innocent or guilty until a court rules one way or the other.
The whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing comes from the fact that we are suppose to assume innocence until evidence comes into play and convinces you that this guy did the thing.
Which is why I say that I want to see how close the list is to what was being sold on ebay and if TSG made a regular habit of selling that amount of cards on ebay.
The hacking thing is a horrible defense. Ebay accounts get hacked... but to what end? So they are going to hack his account to sell a bunch of cards? It seems like if you are going to go through the effort to hack an account... there are far easier ways to do what you want to do without hacking.
Well, again... if someone wants to link said ebay report I wouldn't mind looking through it. If there were 50 copies of 4 other rares that weren't stolen from CFB, then that makes him look more innocent for the same reason.
I just tried to google eldraziseller and ebay and came up empty handed.
Like many people have said before, the evidence has stacked up against him to the point where he looks very guilty.
I'm sure it was very hard for CFB to call TSG out on the matter but I'm fairly certain that they reviewed all the information they had before trying to talk to him on the matter. By talking to him on the matter, I mean talking to him on a personal level and wanting to NOT find out that he's been stealing from them since they are probably pretty close with the guy. Past that, I'm sure the evidence has continue to stack up to the point where TSG knows he's been caught and CFB knows for certain that he's been stealing from them. CFB is smarter than to call out one of their own members without fully reviewing all the evidence and trying to figure it out with him.
The arguments that his account got hacked etc is pretty far fetched. No hacker that is smart enough to code and send a key logger is going to try to hack your eBay account (eBay accounts are worthless) and then try to sell magic cards on the same hacked eBay account. If anything they would have went for things like credit card numbers, PayPal money, etc. that would be easy to steal and be done with it. Hackers, most likely, have access to tons of key logged accounts; if there's nothing of immediate worth they'll continue onto the next victim.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
I think the bigger issue is what's going to happen to Humphrey?
This. Although Humphrey has passed on, Darksteel Humphrey is alive and well. May we all wish Darksteel Humphrey the best in his future endeavors, be it with CFB or with TSG on the lam.
The arguments that his account got hacked etc is pretty far fetched. No hacker that is smart enough to code and send a key logger is going to try to hack your eBay account (eBay accounts are worthless) and then try to sell magic cards on the same hacked eBay account.
I think the argument people are trying to make is that it *wouldn't*be some random hacker, but someone TSG personally knows. Its very probably that someone that knew TSG's password for any kind of system could have guessed that it was the same on his ebay account.
Also, keyloggers aren't the only way to compromise an account. There are many other, simpler ways to get into peoples various accounts. All it takes is access to a single email account (which, based on most peoples security questions/answers, its easy enough to get into), and from there you can simply filter email and the person who actually owns the account would never know.
If he is indeed innocent, despite the mountain of circumstantial evidence piling up against him, the smartest thing he could do for himself is to not talk to anyone involved and consult a lawyer. The situation might play out significantly different if he was accused of something that didn't involve any potential legal action against him. Silence in that case might be a bit more damning, but when you are suddenly faced with the possibility of being charged, not saying anything is the smartest move you can make.
That is interesting. I was under the impression for some reason that somehow it was all one page, but he separated them into a bunch of 4x of w/e the cards were.
Now, it's obvious the guy sells a lot of cards. But one thing that is noticeable looking at that link is that he might've sold 4x or 8x of the Zendikar lands, or Mox Opal, or Frost Titan, or Sun Titan, or Gideon, or Zealous Conscripts... and then you get to the cards in question (Bonfire, Grislebrand, Restoration Angel... Thundermaw?, not sure what the 4th card is). Suddenly he has at least 16 of those to sell. Thundermaw Hellkite is on their 4 times at 4x, although it's an M13 card. So it really depends on what was on the list.
Not sure if that's enough to convict the guy because it looks like he definitely sold cards outside of the ones that were stolen. But they were drawn to this ebay account for a reason. If there is any other evidence connecting those cards to what he was selling, then it will come out and it might be enough for them to find him guilty.
I think the argument people are trying to make is that it *wouldn't*be some random hacker, but someone TSG personally knows. Its very probably that someone that knew TSG's password for any kind of system could have guessed that it was the same on his ebay account.
Also, keyloggers aren't the only way to compromise an account. There are many other, simpler ways to get into peoples various accounts. All it takes is access to a single email account (which, based on most peoples security questions/answers, its easy enough to get into), and from there you can simply filter email and the person who actually owns the account would never know.
If he is indeed innocent, despite the mountain of circumstantial evidence piling up against him, the smartest thing he could do for himself is to not talk to anyone involved and consult a lawyer. The situation might play out significantly different if he was accused of something that didn't involve any potential legal action against him. Silence in that case might be a bit more damning, but when you are suddenly faced with the possibility of being charged, not saying anything is the smartest move you can make.
Okay, but by saying that it's someone he knows you are implying that he's being framed by someone else on purpose. Which I guess is possible, but it sounds like something out of a mystery novel.
Because if someone else stole the cards, he doesn't NEED an ebay account to fence all the cards. There are plenty of ways to do it.
1. If he wanted to do it the easiest and least chance of getting caught. He could've driven to a bunch of different card shops and sold them in person there. Selling them all to 1 card shop would've been suspicious, but a day of driving around and selling off 2-3 at a time would be almost impossible to trace because they don't keep records of who is buying and selling said cards. Now, he would've taken a financial hit by selling them to a store, but it's almost impossible to trace doing it that way.
2. Instead of hacking an account, he could've created his own and just not have enough information linking the thief to the account. Also... not selling 20 Bonfires within a period of 2 weeks probably would've been a good idea as well. Bonfire would keep it's value for the most part for the next year, so you had plenty of time to slowly leak those cards through. And again, it seems like the reason his account looked suspicious in the first place is because out of nowhere he's selling 20 Bonfires all at once.
Okay, but by saying that it's someone he knows you are implying that he's being framed by someone else on purpose. Which I guess is possible, but it sounds like something out of a mystery novel.
Some disgruntled employee that has a substance addiction decides to make a big score. Mystery solved.
Okay, but by saying that it's someone he knows you are implying that he's being framed by someone else on purpose. Which I guess is possible, but it sounds like something out of a mystery novel.
I'm not saying that. I personally believe he is guilty, but there has been no proof released. His actions thus far to me can either be seen as someone who is simply protecting themselves by not speaking to the police and possibly incriminating themselves for something they didn't do, or by someone who is guilty. I think the scenario of someone using his info is far fetched, but its still possible. All it takes is a simple person with a vendetta.
A large majority of people thought TSG was one of the "good guys", and ruining his name in this community (as well as further job opportunities) is a great way to extract personal revenge.
Again, its far fetched, but not out of the realm of possibility, and definitely not that difficult with a little bit of time and effort.
Some disgruntled employee that has a substance addiction decides to make a big score. Mystery solved.
Not really. Why would this employee sell cards under TSGs name, instead of another one?
There is no reason a thief would need to sell under TSGs account. If you're a thief, you can make a fake account, and sell cards under a fake account.
Also, why would it go back to TSGs Paypal account?
The guy is a scum bag, stop trying to stick up for him.
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This guy, would either eat up several turns worth of mana to get a slow permanent that relies on your already have some board presence (after wasting said mana), or dies without generating any advantage.
Some disgruntled employee that has a substance addiction decides to make a big score. Mystery solved.
Well, someone that has a vendetta against TSG himself. The only reason you would hack into someone's account vs selling the stolen goods far easier ways. And in any case, I would imagine you can find out if he logged onto his ebay account from his house... and this would put the hacking theory to bed. Now, if he didn't... easy innocent verdict right there. If he did it still doesn't mean he's guilty but that shuts off one of his defenses.
Meh, I'd go with two different logical arguments for doing something like this provided he is guilty of course.
1. The substance abuse issue. If someone is addicted to things and they blow through their money for said addiction they usually have no real qualms with stealing to get their next fix. I don't know if he has an addiction issue or not, but the behaviour (provided he is guilty) is definitely akin to people I've personally known with this issue.
2. It does indeed look like TSG was pretty much making a fair amount on probably buying/selling magic cards on ebay/etc. One idea that's possible is if he knew of another source where he could get some cards cheaper than what he was selling them for then it's possible he was skimming cards from cfb and planned on returning them later (after picking them up for a cheaper price than he sold them for). If you can do said deal quick enough and know how the site usually operates their inventory then this would be possible. Doesn't mean this is what happened, but it makes more sense than the idea of just stealing the cards and thinking you'd just get away with it.
After watching him on the show somewhat, it's apparent this guy isn't an idiot. So without such reasonings it's kind of hard to picture him thinking he could just get away with flat stealing from the store (unless he's been doing it for years or something).
Meh, I'd go with two different logical arguments for doing something like this provided he is guilty of course.
1. The substance abuse issue. If someone is addicted to things and they blow through their money for said addiction they usually have no real qualms with stealing to get their next fix. I don't know if he has an addiction issue or not, but the behaviour (provided he is guilty) is definitely akin to people I've personally known with this issue.
2. It does indeed look like TSG was pretty much making a fair amount on probably buying/selling magic cards on ebay/etc. One idea that's possible is if he knew of another source where he could get some cards cheaper than what he was selling them for then it's possible he was skimming cards from cfb and planned on returning them later (after picking them up for a cheaper price than he sold them for). If you can do said deal quick enough and know how the site usually operates their inventory then this would be possible. Doesn't mean this is what happened, but it makes more sense than the idea of just stealing the cards and thinking you'd just get away with it.
After watching him on the show somewhat, it's apparent this guy isn't an idiot. So without such reasonings it's kind of hard to picture him thinking he could just get away with flat stealing from the store (unless he's been doing it for years or something).
It does seem like some sort of addiction problem.
It is a rather awful backstab you have to be out of your mind to betray your friends like that. It is also a fairly poor attempt to cover it up... why couldn't he of made a completely new account email to set up the sale. it seems like it was really desperate.
So why is everyone assuming this is going to end up in court of some kind? Almost every other post in this thread is about how TSG is innocent until proven guilty, like there's going to be criminal prosecution or a civil suit.
I mean, honestly, employers don't need to establish guilt or innocence beyond a reasonable doubt in order to fire employees...
Who the hell steals 2000 from the place they fracking work? I don't care how much shrinkage goes on at the store, but you bet your ass that's going to be investigated and it's going to come back and bite you in the ass.
And 2000 is such a small sum. I could understand if it was an order of magnitude larger, but 2000 isn't going to make him rich, isn't going to do much of anything.
The whole motive of everything is maddeningly confusing.
I am personally holding out judgement till we get a more complete view of the story as things are obviously missing from the story, as if this post is truth then the theft was more than 50 copies of the top 4 card in avr.
Read more carefully. The author is comparing two different events, and saying they produce the same reaction.
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Edit 2: It looks like J Medina did the commentary and Heather Meek compiled the tweets, so I guess that solves the author mystery.
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He was stealing. He obviously doesnt care what the impact from those actions causes, so why should we care or feel bad for him now that he is blackballed?
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Really? Funny, I haven't watched actual TV (other than football) for at least a year. Thanks to Netflix on my TV with no commercials, I have no reason to (again, other than football).
I'd be very surprised to find out that TSG didn't steal the cards. How easy is it for him just to grab a chunk of cards and go? Too easy apparently.
You think the only employment troubles he'll find will be in the Magic world? Guess you don't know how the world works.
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So where does it say he admitted to taking the cards? Admitting the eBay account is his does not mean he necessarily took the cards.
Like I said, anybody with the internet can find precedent from the eldraziseller completed history for TSG selling bulk quantities of other chase rares from the very same set. Again, he was selling playsets of at least Cavern, Tamiyo, Bonfire, Entreat, Resto Angel & Griselbrand. CFB specifically said (50 copies of) 4 AVR cards.
It may seem like I'm trying to defend TSG or cast doubt on CFB. Not at all. Just pointing out it may be difficult to prove in court. Which is why I'm assuming they have some sort of other evidence. I must admit that I'm curious, even though it's none of my business.
Well, again... if someone wants to link said ebay report I wouldn't mind looking through it. If there were 50 copies of 4 other rares that weren't stolen from CFB, then that makes him look more innocent for the same reason.
I just tried to google eldraziseller and ebay and came up empty handed.
It's very bizarre to me that people just assume that he's guilty without full evidence. It's akin to Salem Witch Trials. ACCOUNTS GET HACKED people. Identities get stolen. This stuff happens. The reason TSG has refused to contact CFB is because that's what you do when you're accused of Grand Larceny. You keep silent, let your lawyer do the talking.
You know what percentage of innocent people in this country are incarcerated for crimes they weren't guilty of? It's higher than you think. And most of the time the reason it happens is because the party said or did things to incriminate themselves after the fact and that evidence was used to paint the suspect in a certain light so as to better find them guilty. On top of which a lot of prosecutors in this country are so narrowly focused that they become less interested in justice and more interested in winning.
That was a little tangential on my part, but I get tired of people yelling "Look there's a witch! Burn them!" at the first sign of trouble. Give people the benefit of the doubt, hold onto your true feelings for them your compassion and caring until it's PROVEN that they're not worthy of them.
The whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing comes from the fact that we are suppose to assume innocence until evidence comes into play and convinces you that this guy did the thing.
Which is why I say that I want to see how close the list is to what was being sold on ebay and if TSG made a regular habit of selling that amount of cards on ebay.
The hacking thing is a horrible defense. Ebay accounts get hacked... but to what end? So they are going to hack his account to sell a bunch of cards? It seems like if you are going to go through the effort to hack an account... there are far easier ways to do what you want to do without hacking.
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I'm sure it was very hard for CFB to call TSG out on the matter but I'm fairly certain that they reviewed all the information they had before trying to talk to him on the matter. By talking to him on the matter, I mean talking to him on a personal level and wanting to NOT find out that he's been stealing from them since they are probably pretty close with the guy. Past that, I'm sure the evidence has continue to stack up to the point where TSG knows he's been caught and CFB knows for certain that he's been stealing from them. CFB is smarter than to call out one of their own members without fully reviewing all the evidence and trying to figure it out with him.
The arguments that his account got hacked etc is pretty far fetched. No hacker that is smart enough to code and send a key logger is going to try to hack your eBay account (eBay accounts are worthless) and then try to sell magic cards on the same hacked eBay account. If anything they would have went for things like credit card numbers, PayPal money, etc. that would be easy to steal and be done with it. Hackers, most likely, have access to tons of key logged accounts; if there's nothing of immediate worth they'll continue onto the next victim.
This. Although Humphrey has passed on, Darksteel Humphrey is alive and well. May we all wish Darksteel Humphrey the best in his future endeavors, be it with CFB or with TSG on the lam.
I think the argument people are trying to make is that it *wouldn't*be some random hacker, but someone TSG personally knows. Its very probably that someone that knew TSG's password for any kind of system could have guessed that it was the same on his ebay account.
Also, keyloggers aren't the only way to compromise an account. There are many other, simpler ways to get into peoples various accounts. All it takes is access to a single email account (which, based on most peoples security questions/answers, its easy enough to get into), and from there you can simply filter email and the person who actually owns the account would never know.
If he is indeed innocent, despite the mountain of circumstantial evidence piling up against him, the smartest thing he could do for himself is to not talk to anyone involved and consult a lawyer. The situation might play out significantly different if he was accused of something that didn't involve any potential legal action against him. Silence in that case might be a bit more damning, but when you are suddenly faced with the possibility of being charged, not saying anything is the smartest move you can make.
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That is interesting. I was under the impression for some reason that somehow it was all one page, but he separated them into a bunch of 4x of w/e the cards were.
Now, it's obvious the guy sells a lot of cards. But one thing that is noticeable looking at that link is that he might've sold 4x or 8x of the Zendikar lands, or Mox Opal, or Frost Titan, or Sun Titan, or Gideon, or Zealous Conscripts... and then you get to the cards in question (Bonfire, Grislebrand, Restoration Angel... Thundermaw?, not sure what the 4th card is). Suddenly he has at least 16 of those to sell. Thundermaw Hellkite is on their 4 times at 4x, although it's an M13 card. So it really depends on what was on the list.
Not sure if that's enough to convict the guy because it looks like he definitely sold cards outside of the ones that were stolen. But they were drawn to this ebay account for a reason. If there is any other evidence connecting those cards to what he was selling, then it will come out and it might be enough for them to find him guilty.
Okay, but by saying that it's someone he knows you are implying that he's being framed by someone else on purpose. Which I guess is possible, but it sounds like something out of a mystery novel.
Because if someone else stole the cards, he doesn't NEED an ebay account to fence all the cards. There are plenty of ways to do it.
1. If he wanted to do it the easiest and least chance of getting caught. He could've driven to a bunch of different card shops and sold them in person there. Selling them all to 1 card shop would've been suspicious, but a day of driving around and selling off 2-3 at a time would be almost impossible to trace because they don't keep records of who is buying and selling said cards. Now, he would've taken a financial hit by selling them to a store, but it's almost impossible to trace doing it that way.
2. Instead of hacking an account, he could've created his own and just not have enough information linking the thief to the account. Also... not selling 20 Bonfires within a period of 2 weeks probably would've been a good idea as well. Bonfire would keep it's value for the most part for the next year, so you had plenty of time to slowly leak those cards through. And again, it seems like the reason his account looked suspicious in the first place is because out of nowhere he's selling 20 Bonfires all at once.
Some disgruntled employee that has a substance addiction decides to make a big score. Mystery solved.
I'm not saying that. I personally believe he is guilty, but there has been no proof released. His actions thus far to me can either be seen as someone who is simply protecting themselves by not speaking to the police and possibly incriminating themselves for something they didn't do, or by someone who is guilty. I think the scenario of someone using his info is far fetched, but its still possible. All it takes is a simple person with a vendetta.
A large majority of people thought TSG was one of the "good guys", and ruining his name in this community (as well as further job opportunities) is a great way to extract personal revenge.
Again, its far fetched, but not out of the realm of possibility, and definitely not that difficult with a little bit of time and effort.
Not really. Why would this employee sell cards under TSGs name, instead of another one?
There is no reason a thief would need to sell under TSGs account. If you're a thief, you can make a fake account, and sell cards under a fake account.
Also, why would it go back to TSGs Paypal account?
The guy is a scum bag, stop trying to stick up for him.
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Well, someone that has a vendetta against TSG himself. The only reason you would hack into someone's account vs selling the stolen goods far easier ways. And in any case, I would imagine you can find out if he logged onto his ebay account from his house... and this would put the hacking theory to bed. Now, if he didn't... easy innocent verdict right there. If he did it still doesn't mean he's guilty but that shuts off one of his defenses.
1. The substance abuse issue. If someone is addicted to things and they blow through their money for said addiction they usually have no real qualms with stealing to get their next fix. I don't know if he has an addiction issue or not, but the behaviour (provided he is guilty) is definitely akin to people I've personally known with this issue.
2. It does indeed look like TSG was pretty much making a fair amount on probably buying/selling magic cards on ebay/etc. One idea that's possible is if he knew of another source where he could get some cards cheaper than what he was selling them for then it's possible he was skimming cards from cfb and planned on returning them later (after picking them up for a cheaper price than he sold them for). If you can do said deal quick enough and know how the site usually operates their inventory then this would be possible. Doesn't mean this is what happened, but it makes more sense than the idea of just stealing the cards and thinking you'd just get away with it.
After watching him on the show somewhat, it's apparent this guy isn't an idiot. So without such reasonings it's kind of hard to picture him thinking he could just get away with flat stealing from the store (unless he's been doing it for years or something).
It does seem like some sort of addiction problem.
It is a rather awful backstab you have to be out of your mind to betray your friends like that. It is also a fairly poor attempt to cover it up... why couldn't he of made a completely new account email to set up the sale. it seems like it was really desperate.
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I mean, honestly, employers don't need to establish guilt or innocence beyond a reasonable doubt in order to fire employees...