re: "planeshifted cards" from Ravnica. Why wouldn't they? It'll let some Rav cards stay T2 legal after Ravnica proper rotates out with the next block release.
Disenchant is back for white? That makes me happier than anything I've read about Time Spiral.:D
That's fantastic. White should NEVER have lost Disenchant. The Kami card Terashi's Grasp shows that even with the current color pie, white has some claim on the disenchant effect.
Should be a really fun set with U/W control being able to use Psi Blast.
I think this is great. For one thing, it should make limited pretty interesting. I mean, the prospect of dropping Sol'Kanar, Swamp King is an amusing one, to say the least.
Also, it's nice for people like me who have been playing for ~10 years, but have been out of the standard loop since about Mercadian Masques. Now we may have some inkling as to what the hell standard players are talking about when they drop card names ;). It's a creative and original idea, if nothing else.
I was thinking about the ideas of what they can do with the side cards and I agree alot on the "planeshifted" cards being from Mirrodin-Kami-Rav Planes (Small set would prolly only have 30 extra cards). But with Future sight, I can see them doing reprints of older cards in new card frames. (future shifted cards)
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Hmmm I'll have to disagree here. I remember buying my Serpent Generators and City of Brass for $30 each way back when only to see Chronicles reprint them and their values drop dramatically.
Now...Wizards doesn't really care about the secondary market and I don't blame them.
But, in the case of your Cities and Generators, they were easier to find. In TS - there are only 80 rares. But there are 121 of the "bonus" timeshifted cards. So in theory, most people should have less copies of the bonus cards than the rares. People would actually have a better chance of pulling any given rare by going back and buying cards from the original set than trying to get one through TS.
That being said, with some of the older cards, which had a much smaller print run there may actually be more of them in print with TS.
Sorry if this offends you, but WTF are you talking about?
1. The purples are going to be more rare than gold - most people have at least some of these cards from older sets, and even if they didn't they're not much rarer than regular rares - 1 per pack, 121 in the set compared to 1 per pack, 88 in set (as Ravnica) isn't so much of a difference.
That will make most of these cards cheaper than if they were non-reprinted rares of the same power level (just look at what happened to the price of BoP in Ravnica). On the other hand, if they already own, let's say a couple of CotH, they will have reason to be happy as the value will still rise
2. The reprints replace a common card in your pack. That means you get to get your rare, your 3 uncommons and a reprint card all for the price of one pack. When you get Akroma, or Psionic Blast, you'll get the rare as well, and if you get Fiery Temper, well you got it instead of a common, so no big deal. So how does exactly a chance to get 2 rares, or 4 uncommons (and a good chance actually) screw the players with less money? Actually it makes it easier for them, because they could get two expensive cards per pack that they could trade for cards they need, or sell.
3. As for color pie screw-ups, I never bought the story that Disenchant isn't in white's flavor, and blue got so shafted in the last sets that Blast and Whispers (instant card draw, yay) are the least they could do. (WHY couldn't you reprint Counterspell? )
Heads up; Hypnotic Specter went from $8 a playset to $20-24 with it's reprint in 9th. Psionic Blast? Currently at 40$ a playset. That's with it currently not legal in anything but Eternal formats where it's not in high demand. And it's new reprinting? Puts it at only a little better than 1/2 the frequency of a normal rare. You remember how much Cranial Extraction went for when it came out? Yeah, think of that, but a lot more. Tormod's Crypt is likely jumping from $2 a playset to $16, just because there aren't enough currently in print to support formats the size of Standard/Extended. Ditto to Gaea's Blessing. Imagine Icatian Javelineers suddenly being worth something...
****. Well at least my Call of the Herds are going to be money rares again... maybe... of course the stupid part is figuring out which iconic power cards would be played and which would be overshadowed.
This would increase the value of individual Time Spiral packs a fair bit, but at the same time make the price of playing Constructed skyrocket.
Well, if WOTC did nothing else for me with this whole scenario, I went searching for some of my older cards, was happy to find not only that I had 7 Gaea's Blessings, but I also found two random decks from Onslaught block that I had thought were lost - most of the cards were just ok, but to find my 4 flood plains again was quite nice
There was a recent article on MtG.com about how something like Tormod's Crypt was useless back in the day, but would be far too powerful in today's environment. I find it curious that they would reprint it, given how significantly a reprint would change how Extended, and to a lesser extent, Standard, is played.
How many of these Purple cards are in each deck?
It seems that all the sliver reprints would fit nicely right in the sliver theme deck.
An all white deck-Screams for Akroma.
Just my opinion of course but if Akroma is in there, what will that do to her price, it would be just like jitte all over again...
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I guess we have to hope that we have the playsets to dust off more than we have the whoring of ourselves out to pay for shiny new playsets of a second patch of rares.
Given the rarity of these cards, they are going to be a pain to acquire even apart from the question of how powerful or useful they are.
I guess we have to hope that we have the playsets to dust off more than we have the whoring of ourselves out to pay for shiny new playsets of a second patch of rares.
Given the rarity of these cards, they are going to be a pain to acquire even apart from the question of how powerful or useful they are.
There are still many more copies available through this avenue than were there before. Imagine if Wizards suddenly declared these cards to be type 2 legal - without reprinting any more of them!
Read that sentence real careful, specifically this part...
"...any format that allows the original card."
What it says up there is that you can use the timeshifted cards for Standard and all through the various main formats where Time Spiral itself is allowed.
But the sentence does NOT change the status of the original cards! Actually, as I see it, it's quite the opposite, it CONFIRMS that status.
What the sentences implies is that the original cards are still allowed wherever they are allowed under the current tournament structure, which means no Disenchant or Psionic Blast in Standard, UNLESS it is a timeshifted card, which is identified as one that has the Time Spiral expansion symbol.
The end result is that Standard will not be flooded by the old cards, which means that the stronger reprints may not have as much of an impact as we may think, if we could also use the original versions. A smaller total card pool, really, which is also one of the original concepts for Magic, the idea that people would be playing with a limited number of cards, with surprises popping up when you meet people with different cards...
But I guess we should all get a clarification on Saturday or sometimes later, when the people in charge of the tournament scene has spoken!
No, that statement just means that the original card and the timeshifted cards share legalities.
You definately can play the old versions in standard.
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well looking at the spoiler, the Telekinetic sliver looks pretty interesting. Its basically Opposition with legs that only works with slivers - I can see a blue control deck that uses that sliver to keep the oppoents mana tapped.
well looking at the spoiler, the Telekinetic sliver looks pretty interesting. Its basically Opposition with legs that only works with slivers - I can see a blue control deck that uses that sliver to keep the oppoents mana tapped.
I find it funny that we're seeing slivers again. They didn't chose to bring back cycling or any of the other themes that they've already revisited once. Slivers must have a pretty heavy market draw because there's no reason we should be seeing them again so soon.
I remember being sick of slivers in Onslaught block. Screw slivers. Those could bo some other interesting mechanic that we've only seen once before, like thallids.
Actually, I played in a Sealed event at my local pre-release today.
In one of my boosters, there was a rare, a purple card, and a foil purple card. This is the equivalent of 3 rares. Especially considering one of these cards was Assault//Battery, one was Call of the Herd, and one was Magus of the Scroll. Rawr.
i haven't played any sealed yet ( i will be in a few days), i can see where it would be a problem, but everyone has the chance to pull that many rares.
i think part of the increase in rares has to do with the price increase. it all went up a dollar a pack. and some of the purple cards are so awful, yeah you might get a psionic blast or an akroma, but you can get goblin snowmen or some other crap card. leviathan! come on. is anyone really going to play a leviathan??? i'm sure for every good rare there are 3 bad ones to pick from. some people are just better at working with what they have in front of them.
Actually, I played in a Sealed event at my local pre-release today.
In one of my boosters, there was a rare, a purple card, and a foil purple card. This is the equivalent of 3 rares. Especially considering one of these cards was Assault//Battery, one was Call of the Herd, and one was Magus of the Scroll. Rawr.
Lol. I love when people lie. You cannot get two purplies in a pack. MaRo said so himself.
No one believe lying people.
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I cant understand this fact, why wizards put foil R and U in the common slot. The only reason i can think of is, to increase the sale figures, but is this fact a reason strong enough for wizard to screw up the limited play, exspecially the sealed part.
I have seen it,while playing at the pre. After five rounds there were 4 or 5 undefeated decks and at least three of this players have opened a boster or a tournament pack with a foil rare/purble. So if the future of limited play at GPs or PTQs is to be lucky enough to open a foil rare, i will quite limited play cause this fact definitively sucks
I judged the prerelease and noticed how rare-driven the environment felt. My first impression was that I hadn't seen limited play in while, but now that I think about it, the fact that there is another slot for a splashy and often powerful card is really going to skew limited.
At the PR i had no problem with up to 3 rares a pack. in my decks I hardly played any rares and i still won the drafts, it does increase chances of bombs, but it also adds some more skill to the draft, you can get up to 3 bomby rares in a pack, and have an incredible uncommon/common. it really seperates the people who can take their picks carefully from those who just go for bombs every time.
No reason not to.
That's fantastic. White should NEVER have lost Disenchant. The Kami card Terashi's Grasp shows that even with the current color pie, white has some claim on the disenchant effect.
Should be a really fun set with U/W control being able to use Psi Blast.
Also, it's nice for people like me who have been playing for ~10 years, but have been out of the standard loop since about Mercadian Masques. Now we may have some inkling as to what the hell standard players are talking about when they drop card names ;). It's a creative and original idea, if nothing else.
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But, in the case of your Cities and Generators, they were easier to find. In TS - there are only 80 rares. But there are 121 of the "bonus" timeshifted cards. So in theory, most people should have less copies of the bonus cards than the rares. People would actually have a better chance of pulling any given rare by going back and buying cards from the original set than trying to get one through TS.
That being said, with some of the older cards, which had a much smaller print run there may actually be more of them in print with TS.
Heads up; Hypnotic Specter went from $8 a playset to $20-24 with it's reprint in 9th. Psionic Blast? Currently at 40$ a playset. That's with it currently not legal in anything but Eternal formats where it's not in high demand. And it's new reprinting? Puts it at only a little better than 1/2 the frequency of a normal rare. You remember how much Cranial Extraction went for when it came out? Yeah, think of that, but a lot more. Tormod's Crypt is likely jumping from $2 a playset to $16, just because there aren't enough currently in print to support formats the size of Standard/Extended. Ditto to Gaea's Blessing. Imagine Icatian Javelineers suddenly being worth something...
****. Well at least my Call of the Herds are going to be money rares again... maybe... of course the stupid part is figuring out which iconic power cards would be played and which would be overshadowed.
This would increase the value of individual Time Spiral packs a fair bit, but at the same time make the price of playing Constructed skyrocket.
How many of these Purple cards are in each deck?
It seems that all the sliver reprints would fit nicely right in the sliver theme deck.
An all white deck-Screams for Akroma.
Just my opinion of course but if Akroma is in there, what will that do to her price, it would be just like jitte all over again...
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Given the rarity of these cards, they are going to be a pain to acquire even apart from the question of how powerful or useful they are.
"You can use this cards in any format that allows Time Spiral cards as well as in any format that allows the original card."
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By the way, if you did open that Tournament Pack, how many Purples were in it?
There are 3 purples in each tourney pack.
This has been confirmed already.
It is wonderful to see a scan of the insert though.
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There are still many more copies available through this avenue than were there before. Imagine if Wizards suddenly declared these cards to be type 2 legal - without reprinting any more of them!
No, that statement just means that the original card and the timeshifted cards share legalities.
You definately can play the old versions in standard.
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I remember being sick of slivers in Onslaught block. Screw slivers. Those could bo some other interesting mechanic that we've only seen once before, like thallids.
In one of my boosters, there was a rare, a purple card, and a foil purple card. This is the equivalent of 3 rares. Especially considering one of these cards was Assault//Battery, one was Call of the Herd, and one was Magus of the Scroll. Rawr.
i think part of the increase in rares has to do with the price increase. it all went up a dollar a pack. and some of the purple cards are so awful, yeah you might get a psionic blast or an akroma, but you can get goblin snowmen or some other crap card. leviathan! come on. is anyone really going to play a leviathan??? i'm sure for every good rare there are 3 bad ones to pick from. some people are just better at working with what they have in front of them.
*shrugs* that's my two cents.
Lol. I love when people lie. You cannot get two purplies in a pack. MaRo said so himself.
No one believe lying people.
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I judged the prerelease and noticed how rare-driven the environment felt. My first impression was that I hadn't seen limited play in while, but now that I think about it, the fact that there is another slot for a splashy and often powerful card is really going to skew limited.