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Um... what? WTF mate, TEPS doesn't tutor. they draw...
TEPS can't use Mind's Desire effectively if you have Aven Mindcensor out...
You HAVE to shuffle for Mind's Desire in tournaments... and this basically means it's t4 cards everytime... which means you're only introducing 1 new card to the desire on each activation. For whatever that's worth.
I am concerned for what this deck is doing before it has the mana to drop swans and chain on the same turn. Affinity and Dredge will both have you dead already.
I do like the idea of picking up the whole deck so you KNOW you have your wincons, but it does not seem very resilient.
It counters stuff, sets up top and balance, plays threads on there critical creature. Sure it looses to dredge but affinity, no way. Also you dont need to play them both on the same turn if you have top and balance.
Thing as well, this will survive into next season, which is why it can become huge.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
Grindstone is not Extended Legal. So this deck runs like the old Angelfire decks. Controlling the game until it drops it's win condition. So R/W/U control. Has anyone considered dropping in 4 Lightning Angel. This gives you a triple colored Chrome or gives you a secondary win condition. Just a thought.
It's legal in my playgroup dangit, and that's good enough for me! As a sidenote: Stuffy Doll could be of use against any deck CoP:R or Story Circle. 7 cards in hand + chain of plasma = 21 colorless damage.
It's legal in my playgroup dangit, and that's good enough for me! As a sidenote: Stuffy Doll could be of use against any deck CoP:R or Story Circle. 7 cards in hand + chain of plasma = 21 colorless damage.
Well Black Lotus is ok my playgroup, but doesn't mean I'm going to suggest it when I know it's not extended legal. That's just silly. As for Stuffy Doll, now you have to wait another turn before you can go off. The best best is just run 1-2 copies of each of the 2 kills and go with that. My suggestion of Angel gives you an out in case Bryon get's Extirpated or you can slip it in turn 3 and smack control when they aren't expecting it.
when the wish rotates out i would replace them with lightning axe
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This deck seems like it could be really strong in the coming extended season.
The control shell seems like the best place for this deck - it was in Legacy.
Am I the only one who feels that this list will be strongest in a Ugr shell with Tarmogoyf? Goyf makes a great wall and is an alternative wincon from Swans. Playing 4 Goyf, 4 Swans, 4 Chain should give you a decent amount of aggro + reach, when necessary, and would of course be backed up by CB + Top.
I don't know if nom is town or scum. But I'd like to point out this type of behavior is his standard modus operandi.
Court Mafia: Day 1, hatch plan to KILL EVERYONE ELSE IN A SINGLE NIGHT, when the plan only allows him to hit 11 random players, ATTEMPTS TO FIRE ANYHOW (Roleblocked).
In other words....Nom is an impulsive player who doesn't think about planning long-term or listening to others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was town. At all.
I'd have to agree with you. In extended it's totally ok. We'll still have fetch lands and chrome moxen. As well as shocklands. 3 lands is doable in legacy. Which has much more non-basic hate than extended. It's very doable.
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5th is just a guy snapping his fingers. Maybe Nicol Bolas can get mana that way, but I can't.
I'd have to agree with you. In extended it's totally ok. We'll still have fetch lands and chrome moxen. As well as shocklands. 3 lands is doable in legacy. Which has much more non-basic hate than extended. It's very doable.
I play Legacy a lot, so that's what I thought.
I was even thinking you could SB in blood moon if you played a mana base like:
3 Foothills
2 Delta
2 Strand
4 Breeding Pool
4 Steam Vents
2 Island
1 Forest
Three colours is thin when i need, UU and RRR, the W is only in there for a bigger engineered explosives. Adding goyf and changing the third colour to G would be a big pain.
You don't need white because EE could get to 3 off of G. And you don't need RRR, you just need RR because you can chain Swans EOT and go off on your turn, or you can get the 3rd red source from drawing your deck. Really, you can have the ability to make UUU, RR, or G off just 3 lands.
As I am playtesting 3 differant lists has anyone actually tryed FireStorm..it seems like a wincon, a draw spell with swans and a board clear for the creature matchups
Edit: wow teach me to follow a google link lol can this be moved to legacy or something?
Just thought I'd throw that out there. Check it out.
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Um... what? WTF mate, TEPS doesn't tutor. they draw...
TEPS can't use Mind's Desire effectively if you have Aven Mindcensor out...
You HAVE to shuffle for Mind's Desire in tournaments... and this basically means it's t4 cards everytime... which means you're only introducing 1 new card to the desire on each activation. For whatever that's worth.
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I do like the idea of picking up the whole deck so you KNOW you have your wincons, but it does not seem very resilient.
Doesn't Chain of Plasma rotate out?
Edit: Wow, it doesn't rotate out; I'd been thinking it was from Odyssey block. Cool.
Holy crud, that's a cute little combo that runs right up the curve, too! Hilarious!
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=519290
It's legal in my playgroup dangit, and that's good enough for me! As a sidenote: Stuffy Doll could be of use against any deck CoP:R or Story Circle. 7 cards in hand + chain of plasma = 21 colorless damage.
Well Black Lotus is ok my playgroup, but doesn't mean I'm going to suggest it when I know it's not extended legal. That's just silly. As for Stuffy Doll, now you have to wait another turn before you can go off. The best best is just run 1-2 copies of each of the 2 kills and go with that. My suggestion of Angel gives you an out in case Bryon get's Extirpated or you can slip it in turn 3 and smack control when they aren't expecting it.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=519290
The control shell seems like the best place for this deck - it was in Legacy.
Am I the only one who feels that this list will be strongest in a Ugr shell with Tarmogoyf? Goyf makes a great wall and is an alternative wincon from Swans. Playing 4 Goyf, 4 Swans, 4 Chain should give you a decent amount of aggro + reach, when necessary, and would of course be backed up by CB + Top.
Thoughts?
3 Colors is thin?
I'd have to agree with you. In extended it's totally ok. We'll still have fetch lands and chrome moxen. As well as shocklands. 3 lands is doable in legacy. Which has much more non-basic hate than extended. It's very doable.
I play Legacy a lot, so that's what I thought.
I was even thinking you could SB in blood moon if you played a mana base like:
3 Foothills
2 Delta
2 Strand
4 Breeding Pool
4 Steam Vents
2 Island
1 Forest
Discuss.
You don't need white because EE could get to 3 off of G. And you don't need RRR, you just need RR because you can chain Swans EOT and go off on your turn, or you can get the 3rd red source from drawing your deck. Really, you can have the ability to make UUU, RR, or G off just 3 lands.
3 Foothills
3 Delta
2 Strand
4 Breeding Pool
4 Steam Vents
3 Island
1 Forest
4 Goyf
4 Swans
3 Magus of the Moon
4 Ponder
4 Chain of Plasma
1 Lightning Storm
4 Counterbalance
3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Stifle
2 Pact of Negation
3 Spell Snare
2 Vedalken Shackles
SB
3 Magus of the Moon
3 Pithing Needle
3 Tormods Crypt
3 Krosan Grip
3 Engineered Explosives
Or something like that.
Edit: wow teach me to follow a google link lol can this be moved to legacy or something?