Can anyone tell me the best way to get his beast out of the field? Im thinking of going UG. But If im going to ramp why not run other mana intense creatures and thats what im trying to stay away from. Can I flash this guy on turn 3?
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Best application I have seen so far for this guy is to flash in during combat via Sword of Feast and Famine. Works as early as turn 5 with no acceleration. I'm sure there's a better way to do it in ext though... this way just fits into cawblade:D
Works for any flash creature/ Instant actually... I should look into this.
I'm not gonna say that this is the best way to use him but this is a deck that i have put together. haven't been able to actually test it out yet but hey who knows.
I mean if this guy cant come on the field fast enough then he is kinda useless.
Knowledge pool and Omen Machine seems like the best bet here. Lurking predator if its extended
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"Do the innocent pay for the crimes of the guilty? Of course they do. That's the fate of the weak." —Nicol Bolas
It's understandable blue control players would be shocked and in denial at the notion of this card, since their decks have been dominating multiple formats for an eternity yet they've curiously never once had to deal with any counter-hosers that weren't ineffectual, narrow CRAP.
Summoning Trap? otherwise, you really just need to be able to search it up and have the mana ready. You don't have to build mana ramp just to play such a deck. Garruk wildspeaker and fertile grounds is a pretty clear cut way to drop it early, actually.
It seem's like mass polymorphing into Jin Gitaxis isn't as great as it would seem. If you are resolving a mass polymorph, chances are if you untap next turn you already have lethal on board.
If you want to cheat in Jin, summoning trap and quicksliver amulet are probably the easiest ways.
Best application I have seen so far for this guy is to flash in during combat via Sword of Feast and Famine. Works as early as turn 5 with no acceleration.
Neither of these work as mana no longer floats through phases. I honestly can't see why people haven't learned this one- that rule change was with M10 over two years ago now.
Edit: Polymorph-effects work better than Piper-effects because you don't have to have the creature in hand, and only have to run 2-of your fatties. It's much better to play token-creating effects to feed Polymorph than to have a deck full of fatties that can't be played.
Neither of these work as mana no longer floats through phases. I honestly can't see why people haven't learned this one- that rule change was with M10 over two years ago now.
Edit: Polymorph-effects work better than Piper-effects because you don't have to have the creature in hand, and only have to run 2-of your fatties. It's much better to play token-creating effects to feed Polymorph than to have a deck full of fatties that can't be played.
I agree, making a deck with this and 4 squadron hawks would be great. you could play the hawk on turn 2, get 3 other hawks on the field, then attempt to poly morph them into good creatures with a bit of mana boosteers.
Neither of these work as mana no longer floats through phases. I honestly can't see why people haven't learned this one- that rule change was with M10 over two years ago now.
Edit: Polymorph-effects work better than Piper-effects because you don't have to have the creature in hand, and only have to run 2-of your fatties. It's much better to play token-creating effects to feed Polymorph than to have a deck full of fatties that can't be played.
lol, if you think about it, it's almost as if jin-gitaxias would need to have flash. ZOMG!
Neither of these work as mana no longer floats through phases. I honestly can't see why people haven't learned this one- that rule change was with M10 over two years ago now.
Edit: Polymorph-effects work better than Piper-effects because you don't have to have the creature in hand, and only have to run 2-of your fatties. It's much better to play token-creating effects to feed Polymorph than to have a deck full of fatties that can't be played.
Sword works just fine. Float 5 mana with the untap trigger on the stack, untap, float another 5, then flash in jin-gitaxias. Jin-Gitaxias does have flash so this play is perfectly legal.
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The best way might just be to go with a deck similar to that GW ramp deck that was popular a while ago. I think it ran Lotus cobra, summoning trap, primeval titan, and it's finisher(well, one of many) was Iona. A blue splash might be possible.
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-Terror is an emotion which, when experienced, results in death.
-The pox was a disease notorious for having killed one-third, rounded up, of Europe’s population. Smallpox, on the other hand, killed only a single person.
-A person riding a horse cannot be stopped by foot soldiers, large animals, walls, archers, or even catapults.
Standard can run Jin in a very aggressive reanimator build that is probably one of the best anti-aggro, anti-control decks in the format. You -will- get blown out by mid-rangey Pod and/or GX Mid-Range like tokens. The deck also runs stuff like Sheoldred, Sphinx of Uthuun, Elesh Norn, and Rune-Scarred Demon along with a Zombie Infestation/Merfolk Looter, Unburial Rites package. It works, and it's better in Standard than anything you would put together in Extended.
Secondly, any deck you build in Extended is just going to be a bad, bad Modern deck. The format is quite honestly dead and just about gone, so why not work into a better cardpool/format by making the switch?
Finally, if you're looking at Jin as a Mass Poly/Polymorph target, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. The package for Mass Polymorph is, and should remain Iona, Urabrusk, Emrakul paired with Squadron Hawks and Khalni Gardens for your Polymorph targets. The package for Polymorph requires a heck of a lot more than a Jin-Gitaxias, and really wants to win off the ONE creature you Polymorph into. Drawing 7 seems like it'll shoehorn another Polymorph into your hand ASAP, but in practice it just doesn't happen that way.
Stick to Mass/Polymorphing better stuff. Use Unburial Rites in Standard, or play an Eternal format if you want ANY good use from Jin-Gitaxias.
Standard can run Jin in a very aggressive reanimator build that is probably one of the best anti-aggro, anti-control decks in the format. You -will- get blown out by mid-rangey Pod and/or GX Mid-Range like tokens. The deck also runs stuff like Sheoldred, Sphinx of Uthuun, Elesh Norn, and Rune-Scarred Demon along with a Zombie Infestation/Merfolk Looter, Unburial Rites package. It works, and it's better in Standard than anything you would put together in Extended.
Secondly, any deck you build in Extended is just going to be a bad, bad Modern deck. The format is quite honestly dead and just about gone, so why not work into a better cardpool/format by making the switch?
Finally, if you're looking at Jin as a Mass Poly/Polymorph target, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. The package for Mass Polymorph is, and should remain Iona, Urabrusk, Emrakul paired with Squadron Hawks and Khalni Gardens for your Polymorph targets. The package for Polymorph requires a heck of a lot more than a Jin-Gitaxias, and really wants to win off the ONE creature you Polymorph into. Drawing 7 seems like it'll shoehorn another Polymorph into your hand ASAP, but in practice it just doesn't happen that way.
Stick to Mass/Polymorphing better stuff. Use Unburial Rites in Standard, or play an Eternal format if you want ANY good use from Jin-Gitaxias.
What would a Standard Reanimator deck look like? I have yet to see one in Standard, so I wouldn't really know what the shell would be.
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Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
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I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
Not quite. A dedicated Reanimator list is capable of hosing the "mirror" outright, and has a decent bit more resiliency when compared to Solar Flare's threats. Solar Flare also fumbles in some positions in which a strict Reanimator list would not, and of course the opposite is true as well.
2-3 Black Sun's Zenith
0 or 4 Despise
4 Forbidden Alchemy
0-4 Liliana of the Veil
0-4 Silent Departure
4 Unburial Rites
3-4 Zombie Infestation
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
Sideboard
X Primeval Titan
3-4 Platinum Emperion
4 Mental Misstep
X Surgical Extraction
...and you move on from there. Stuff like Consecrated Sphinx, Grave Titan, or even Sun Titan are largely unnecessary as they don't do enough when cheated in.
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Works for any flash creature/ Instant actually... I should look into this.
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4 Hedron Crab
3 Inkwell Leviathan
4 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
3 Makeshift Mannequin
4 Mana Leak
4 Mental Misstep
4 Ponder
4 Preordain
3 Thoughtseize
3 Torrent of Souls
4 Island
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Swamp
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Despise
4 Flashfreeze
4 Go for the Throat
4 Relic of Progenitus
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Oh yeah... I forgot that they changed (shortened) it... :[ It would be if they hadn't changed it... I think...
Umm... I dunno then, lol.
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Knowledge pool and Omen Machine seems like the best bet here. Lurking predator if its extended
why are you posting in extended if you dont play it enough to remember what sets are not legal : /
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probably mass poly with iona, and some other guys works
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If you want to cheat in Jin, summoning trap and quicksliver amulet are probably the easiest ways.
There is also polymorph itself.
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This. Not the fastest, but it is reusable.
Neither of these work as mana no longer floats through phases. I honestly can't see why people haven't learned this one- that rule change was with M10 over two years ago now.
I'd say Polymorph is your best bet, though if you stick it, Inkwell Leviathan is by far the best creature available (only dies to ***-effects and is a nice clock). Of honorable mention are Iona, Shield of Emeria, Stormtide Leviathan, Terastodon, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, and Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre. I'd say all of these are easily better than Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur.
How about some Mass Polymorph into Emrakul/Urabrask the Hidden. Now that's awesome.
Edit: Polymorph-effects work better than Piper-effects because you don't have to have the creature in hand, and only have to run 2-of your fatties. It's much better to play token-creating effects to feed Polymorph than to have a deck full of fatties that can't be played.
I agree, making a deck with this and 4 squadron hawks would be great. you could play the hawk on turn 2, get 3 other hawks on the field, then attempt to poly morph them into good creatures with a bit of mana boosteers.
lol, if you think about it, it's almost as if jin-gitaxias would need to have flash. ZOMG!
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Sword works just fine. Float 5 mana with the untap trigger on the stack, untap, float another 5, then flash in jin-gitaxias. Jin-Gitaxias does have flash so this play is perfectly legal.
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-The pox was a disease notorious for having killed one-third, rounded up, of Europe’s population. Smallpox, on the other hand, killed only a single person.
-A person riding a horse cannot be stopped by foot soldiers, large animals, walls, archers, or even catapults.
More facts of magic
Standard can run Jin in a very aggressive reanimator build that is probably one of the best anti-aggro, anti-control decks in the format. You -will- get blown out by mid-rangey Pod and/or GX Mid-Range like tokens. The deck also runs stuff like Sheoldred, Sphinx of Uthuun, Elesh Norn, and Rune-Scarred Demon along with a Zombie Infestation/Merfolk Looter, Unburial Rites package. It works, and it's better in Standard than anything you would put together in Extended.
Secondly, any deck you build in Extended is just going to be a bad, bad Modern deck. The format is quite honestly dead and just about gone, so why not work into a better cardpool/format by making the switch?
Finally, if you're looking at Jin as a Mass Poly/Polymorph target, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. The package for Mass Polymorph is, and should remain Iona, Urabrusk, Emrakul paired with Squadron Hawks and Khalni Gardens for your Polymorph targets. The package for Polymorph requires a heck of a lot more than a Jin-Gitaxias, and really wants to win off the ONE creature you Polymorph into. Drawing 7 seems like it'll shoehorn another Polymorph into your hand ASAP, but in practice it just doesn't happen that way.
Stick to Mass/Polymorphing better stuff. Use Unburial Rites in Standard, or play an Eternal format if you want ANY good use from Jin-Gitaxias.
What would a Standard Reanimator deck look like? I have yet to see one in Standard, so I wouldn't really know what the shell would be.
Ever heard of Solar Flare?
- To my youngest sister when she was 6.
Not quite. A dedicated Reanimator list is capable of hosing the "mirror" outright, and has a decent bit more resiliency when compared to Solar Flare's threats. Solar Flare also fumbles in some positions in which a strict Reanimator list would not, and of course the opposite is true as well.
A playable shell looks something like:
0-2 Elesh Norn
4 Jin-Gitaxias
4 Merfolk Looter
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
3-4 Sheoldred
1 Sphinx of Uthuun
2-3 Black Sun's Zenith
0 or 4 Despise
4 Forbidden Alchemy
0-4 Liliana of the Veil
0-4 Silent Departure
4 Unburial Rites
3-4 Zombie Infestation
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
Sideboard
X Primeval Titan
3-4 Platinum Emperion
4 Mental Misstep
X Surgical Extraction
...and you move on from there. Stuff like Consecrated Sphinx, Grave Titan, or even Sun Titan are largely unnecessary as they don't do enough when cheated in.
What is playable about this?
Am I missing something?
Yeah, I heard Sun Titan bringing a clone of Sun Titan, who then can possibly bring back a Liliana, or another clone of Sun Titan "isn't enough".