The great mono white agrro deck full of tricks in extended is posible?
In this moment extended had most of the cards that legacy's list run
only karakas, aether vial and rishadan port are irreplaceable.
but the new list of D+T(death & taxes) run stoneforge mistic and this card makes a new variable in D+T i think this is the right way for play in extended.
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Originally Posted by sephirothx
Trust me, if your choice is between Jace in the mail or a girl in your bed, take the girl and wait for Jace to rotate. Even when you lose in bed, you still win...kinda.
Everyone knows that good luck and good game are such insincere terms that any man who does not connect his right hook with the offender's jaw on the very utterance of such a phrase is no man I would consider as such.
This is an interesting concept but some cards are too essential to Death & Taxes, namely Aether Vial. I could see a color splash and probably the omission of Mangara of Corondor and possibly Flickerwisp. They are far more powerful with Aether Vial, not to mention you lose Karakas, so Mangara of Corondor only trades for 1WW.
Death & Taxes has a sub-theme of mana-denial. Wasteland and Rishadan Port are invaluable to the deck. To perform in extended the deck would have to shift to support a new theme.
i remember some black guy once called me called me cracker i didnt know what he was meaning. but them i found out that it is a Racially motivated term for white people, based on the fact that we're the same color as Saltines.
ok, change the list in first post by an extended list how Yamikiri sugest.
Now the first step is to adapt the loss of aether vial because is a piece that connects the tricks (taxes) for example:
1 .- [tap Magara] you must responce to this
2 .- [vial into Flickerwisp]
the stack looks like this 2magara--1flickerwisp target magara
this combo can be so annoying.
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Originally Posted by sephirothx
Trust me, if your choice is between Jace in the mail or a girl in your bed, take the girl and wait for Jace to rotate. Even when you lose in bed, you still win...kinda.
This is an interesting concept but some cards are too essential to Death & Taxes, namely Aether Vial. I could see a color splash and probably the omission of Mangara of Corondor and possibly Flickerwisp. They are far more powerful with Aether Vial, not to mention you lose Karakas, so Mangara of Corondor only trades for 1WW.
Death & Taxes has a sub-theme of mana-denial. Wasteland and Rishadan Port are invaluable to the deck. To perform in extended the deck would have to shift to support a new theme.
yes i think the same but in a blink theme could work?
and the mana denial is avery important part of D+T.
i still thinking how get the disruption of any kind
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Originally Posted by sephirothx
Trust me, if your choice is between Jace in the mail or a girl in your bed, take the girl and wait for Jace to rotate. Even when you lose in bed, you still win...kinda.
Martyr of Sands, imo closest thing to Mother of Runes you could get, although completely different. Life-gain is always useful, life is magic's second best resource behind mana.
i remember some black guy once called me called me cracker i didnt know what he was meaning. but them i found out that it is a Racially motivated term for white people, based on the fact that we're the same color as Saltines.
The problems are many fold-
D&T needs mana denial aether vial and mother of runes for so many tricks.
I mean 1 goyf beats in hard- and while Jotun Grunt helps here- graveyards stack slower in ext. making the Grunt worse too.
D&T is really a "sum of the parts deck" more than a couple of good synergies.
I completely agree with you, however, I don't see the problem with attempting this task, just the deck will be much White Weenie than actually Death & Taxes.
i remember some black guy once called me called me cracker i didnt know what he was meaning. but them i found out that it is a Racially motivated term for white people, based on the fact that we're the same color as Saltines.
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Originally Posted by sephirothx
Trust me, if your choice is between Jace in the mail or a girl in your bed, take the girl and wait for Jace to rotate. Even when you lose in bed, you still win...kinda.
Just a rough draft, but could be a nice starting point. Rather then responding to Managara's ability with Vial, you use the Ranger to untap it and activate it again. Then either lose it or blink it. Still getting many uses rather then one shot effects.
Loam Lion is for extra beef early game. Could come out. Plus it is pretty nice after boarding in Glare.
Well I do think a Stoneforger White Weenie Tricks deck may be viable.
And as to mirridion rotating out- we are going back there with scars- So I think it is still applicable. (I am personally banking on new awesome equipments)
there are some serius equips that may be appointed in addition to jitte like a crazy vial replacement deathrender only need sacrifice a creature and you get a vial without counters and unlimited activations. On the other hand we got this interesting equip Neko-Te
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Trust me, if your choice is between Jace in the mail or a girl in your bed, take the girl and wait for Jace to rotate. Even when you lose in bed, you still win...kinda.
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In this moment extended had most of the cards that legacy's list run
only karakas, aether vial and rishadan port are irreplaceable.
but the new list of D+T(death & taxes) run stoneforge mistic and this card makes a new variable in D+T i think this is the right way for play in extended.
this is the list to get started.
2 tectonic edge
4 ghost quarter
16 Plains
Creatures 24
4 Whitemane Lion
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Serra Avenger
3 Jötun Grunt
2 Goldmeadow Harrier
3 Mangara of Corondor
4 Flickerwisp
Artifacts 3
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Umezawa's Jitte
Enchantments 4
4 Oblivion Ring
4 empty slots
11???
4 Tormod's Crypt
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-3 Wasteland
-4 Rishadan Port
-4 Karakas
+4 Tectonic Edge
+2 Ghost Quarter
+4 Plains
Creatures
-4 Mother of Runes
+4 Whitemane Lion
Spells
-4 Swords to Plowshares
+4 Path to Exile
+1 Oblivion Ring
Sideboard
-3 Wing Shards
-4 Orim's Chant
-2 Faerie Macabre
+4 Silence
+4 Celestial Purge
+1 Tormod's Crypt
That should be a good starting point for the transition.
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Death & Taxes has a sub-theme of mana-denial. Wasteland and Rishadan Port are invaluable to the deck. To perform in extended the deck would have to shift to support a new theme.
Now the first step is to adapt the loss of aether vial because is a piece that connects the tricks (taxes) for example:
1 .- [tap Magara] you must responce to this
2 .- [vial into Flickerwisp]
the stack looks like this 2magara--1flickerwisp target magara
this combo can be so annoying.
playing:vintage: BDARK' timesB
legacy: WWdeath n' taxisWW
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yes i think the same but in a blink theme could work?
and the mana denial is avery important part of D+T.
i still thinking how get the disruption of any kind
playing:vintage: BDARK' timesB
legacy: WWdeath n' taxisWW
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Weathered Wayfarer, good for tempo when played along side Path to Exile.
Knight of the White Orchid, same as Weathered Wayfarer.
Martyr of Sands, imo closest thing to Mother of Runes you could get, although completely different. Life-gain is always useful, life is magic's second best resource behind mana.
Aven Mindcensor, flash, flying, Stifle.
Kitchen Finks, one word: Persist.
Steppe Lynx, quick beater, although usually short lived.
Figure of Destiny, the original leveler.
Other creatures:
Reveillark
Ranger of Eos
Baneslayer Angel
SB options:
Burrenton Forge-Tender, AIR, Zoo?
Kataki, War's Wage, Affinity, Thopters?
Ethersworn Canonist, Hypergenesis, Living End, Elf Combo.
D&T needs mana denial aether vial and mother of runes for so many tricks.
I mean 1 goyf beats in hard- and while Jotun Grunt helps here- graveyards stack slower in ext. making the Grunt worse too.
D&T is really a "sum of the parts deck" more than a couple of good synergies.
So Pro I have an alpha Volcanic Island
I completely agree with you, however, I don't see the problem with attempting this task, just the deck will be much White Weenie than actually Death & Taxes.
legacy: Doomsday, Dredge, BUG (shard less and still)
modern: storm, woo dredge, U-tron
EDH: maelstrom wanderer, Gisela, krenko, lazav, sharrum, sheoldred/xiahou dun, norin the wary, Thrax, Mimeoplasm, GW legends
good card, may be a few Proclamation of Rebirthonly for solve the resp to minamo, school at water's edge activation(for burn) at best we can use the same tech few more times.
another idea is use the synergy Leonin Shikari and Lightning Greaves with stoneforge mistic
isnt a problem i think. the main problem with this is mirrodin will rotate soon. T.T
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4 Kitchen Finks
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Loam Lion
2 Stoneforge Mystic
3 Scryb Ranger
4 Path to Exile
4 Momentary Blink
4 Mana Leak
3 Ponder
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
3 Seaside Citadel
18 other lands
2 Glare of Subdual
2 Tormond's crypt
4 Celestial Purge
3 Spectral Force
1 Behemoth Sledge
3 Nature's Claim
Just a rough draft, but could be a nice starting point. Rather then responding to Managara's ability with Vial, you use the Ranger to untap it and activate it again. Then either lose it or blink it. Still getting many uses rather then one shot effects.
Loam Lion is for extra beef early game. Could come out. Plus it is pretty nice after boarding in Glare.
And as to mirridion rotating out- we are going back there with scars- So I think it is still applicable. (I am personally banking on new awesome equipments)
So Pro I have an alpha Volcanic Island
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