5th Mark Larson 4 Blinkmoth Nexus 4 Great Furnace 13 Mountain 4 Mogg Fanatic 4 Keldon Marauders 4 Spark Elemental 4 Sulfuric Vortex 3 Flames of the Blood Hand 4 Shrapnel Blast 4 Incinerate 4 Lava Spike 4 Magma Jet 4 Rift Bolt Sideboard: 4 Ensnaring Bridge 4 Smash to Smithereens 3 Firespout 4 Pyrostatic Pillar
6th Andrew Just Zoo 4 Stomping Ground 4 Wooded Foothills 4 Windswept Heath 1 Sacred Foundry 1 Plains 1 Forest 1 Mountain 2 Mutavault 3 Temple Garden 4 Mogg Fanatic 4 Wild Nacatl 4 Kird Ape 3 Gaddock Teeg 4 Tarmogoyf 4 Ethersworn Canonist 4 Seal of Fire 2 Oblivion Ring 4 Lightning Helix 4 Rift Bolt 2 Tarfire Sideboard: 4 Smash to Smithereens 2 Umezawa's Jitte 2 Oblivion Ring 4 Pyroclasm 3 Jotun Grunt
7th Brian Reeves 3 Blinkmoth Nexus 3 Darksteel Citadel 4 Great Furnace 12 Mountain 4 Mogg Fanatic 4 Keldon Marauders 4 Shrapnel Blast 4 Lava Spike 4 Magma Jet 4 Seal of Fire 4 Rift Bolt 2 Shard Volley 3 Flames of the Blood Hand 3 Sulfuric Vortex 2 Incinerate Sideboard: 1 Smash to Smithereens 3 Pyroclasm 3 Pyrostatic Pillar 4 Shattering Spree 4 Dragon's Claw
8th Casey Miller 18 Mountain 4 Magus of the Moon 4 Simian Spirit Guide 2 Dominus of Fealty 4 Demigod of Revenge 3 Deus of Calamity 3 Blood Moon 4 Desperate Ritual 2 Genju of the Spires 4 Seething Song 4 Chrome Mox 4 Empty the Warrens 4 Rite of Flame Sideboard: 4 Goblin Sharpshooter 2 Trinisphere 1 Chalice of the Void 2 Firespout 3 Shatterstorm 3 Tormod's Crypt
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Added numbers and made it a little more organized, was killing my head.
But who was that guy that said gifts rock would be a viable contender a while back?
Oh, it was me.:cool:
So did anyone else notice that there where no Elf decks, and that every one of those lists where designed to beat it?
Congrats, you predicted that a skill intensive deck that can be tuned to any meta game would become a powerful deck kudos :p. In seriousness, I love the 4 EE though, haha, poor wittle elves :(. I wonder if its gonna be like a psychology game, elves gets hated so much it vanishes, so hate goes away, so elves sweeps again, and over and over.
So did anyone else notice that there where no Elf decks, and that every one of those lists where designed to beat it?
What did you expect? People always adapt to the flow of format changes and force out the best deck. Historically, this has happened many times. In the Yoko PTQ season 2007, people realized that TEPS was the best deck, and the rise in Orim's Chants forced it out, then Aggro Loam became the best deck, and Counterbalance forced it out. Valencia was littered with Crypts and Leylines, a concession to the speed of Dredge. And this past season, where Dredge continued to be considered "the Best Deck", people had to run the "eight card sideboard" strat and dedicate half their board to one deck because you didn't want to just scoop em to the fastest archetype, despite them being pretty rare by the time Philly rolled around.
What did you expect? People always adapt to the flow of format changes and force out the best deck. Historically, this has happened many times. In the Yoko PTQ season 2007, people realized that TEPS was the best deck, and the rise in Orim's Chants forced it out, then Aggro Loam became the best deck, and Counterbalance forced it out. Valencia was littered with Crypts and Leylines, a concession to the speed of Dredge. And this past season, where Dredge continued to be considered "the Best Deck", people had to run the "eight card sideboard" strat and dedicate half their board to one deck because you didn't want to just scoop em to the fastest archetype, despite them being pretty rare by the time Philly rolled around.
I know how the Meta works, but thanks. I was more just stating the obvious.;)
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Congrats, you predicted that a skill intensive deck that can be tuned to any meta game would become a powerful deck kudos :p.
you have to realize that this was at a time where Zoo, Affinity and Tron were the "best" decks.:p
The zoo deck is what has been popular on Modo and ML for a bit. Flames and scullers are the big loss. But you gain less damage from lands (helps in mirror and matches where you might want to race).
Whats with the faaeiries list? Is it just me or only 56 cards. I assume 4 bobs were whats missing. But it could be 4 counterspells. nice to know which.
Whats with the faaeiries list? Is it just me or only 56 cards. I assume 4 bobs were whats missing. But it could be 4 counterspells. nice to know which.
unfortunately the original list from Bluegrassmagic.com only has 56 cards...so...
Yeah, it seems to me that most decent blue decks run 4 Cryptic Command now, especially the Faerie lists. I tested one, and loved the card. Turn three blow all your mana and that makes them feel safe enough to blow theirs, then swing turn four, and on their turn counter and bounce whatever they played turn 3. It has always seemed to work nicely for me.
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seeing as the rest of that list is a carbon copy of GerryT's faerie list from a couple of weeks ago, I'd venture to guess that the missing cards are 4 dark confidants
Seriously "LOL" at that Zoo list. If that wasn't a fluke, I have no Idea what it was.
The Mana BAse is hella wonky, and, ontop of that, there aren't any tribal flames. OR Dark Confidant.
*Barf*
well i wouldnt be surprised since it didnt have black, and i think incinerate would be better than tribal flames there anyway because it would just be a volcanic hammer......
well i wouldnt be surprised since it didnt have black, and i think incinerate would be better than tribal flames there anyway because it would just be a volcanic hammer......
No ****. I'm obviously saying that a 5 color version would be better. Can you look just a little deeper into my text?
Top 8 Decklists:
1st Robert Graves
Gifts Rock
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Polluted Delta
1 Academy Ruins
2 Twilight Mire
1 Snow-Covered Forest
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Swamp
1 Mountain
1 Island
1 Forest
1 Watery Grave
1 Stomping Ground
1 Steam Vents
1 Overgrown Tomb
2 Breeding Pool
1 Blood Crypt
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Vedalken Shackles
2 Chrome Mox
4 Engineered Explosives
2 Night of Souls' Betrayal
2 Putrefy
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Firespout
1 Smother
4 Spell Snare
1 Reclaim
1 Ravenous Baloth
1 Etched Oracle
1 Selkie Hedge-Mage
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Eternal Witness
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
Sideboard:
2 Jund Charm
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Clearwater Goblet
2 Vedalken Shackles
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Putrefy
1 Firespout
1 Smother
3 Ancient Grudge
1 Deathmark
1 Ravenous Baloth
2nd Samuel Stoddard
Faeries
1 Steam Vents
1 Watery Grave
2 Secluded Glen
2 Mutavault
2 Riptide Laboratory
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 Polluted Delta
2 Flooded Strand
1 Breeding Pool
1 Blood Crypt
1 Swamp
2 Island
2 Mistbind Clique
4 Spellstutter Sprite
3 Vendilion Clique
4 Chrome Mox
3 Engineered Explosives
4 Smother
4 Spell Snare
4 Thirst for Knowledge
3 Umezawa's Jitte
4 Bitterblossom
Sideboard:
4 Sower of Temptation
3 Flashfreeze
4 Ancient Grudge
2 Firespout
2 Darkblast
3rd Matthew Chamberlain
Affinity
4 Great Furnace
4 Seat of the Synod
1 Glimmervoid
4 Ancient Den
2 City of Brass
3 Blinkmoth Nexus
4 Arcbound Worker
4 Ornithopter
4 Frogmite
4 Atog
4 Myr Enforcer
4 Master of Etherium
4 Ethersworn Canonist
4 Cranial Plating
4 Thoughtcast
2 Fatal Frenzy
4 Springleaf Drum
Sideboard:
4 Slice and Dice
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
3 Pithing Needle
4 Krark-Clan Shaman
4th Brandon Burks
Gifts Rock
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Polluted Delta
1 Academy Ruins
2 Twilight Mire
1 Snow-Covered Forest
1 Snow-Covered Island
1 Snow-Covered Swamp
1 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Island
1 Forest
1 Watery Grave
1 Stomping Ground
1 Steam Vents
1 Overgrown Tomb
2 Breeding Pool
1 Blood Crypt
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Vedalken Shackles
2 Chrome Mox
4 Engineered Explosives
2 Night of Souls' Betrayal
2 Putrefy
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Firespout
1 Smother
4 Spell Snare
1 Reclaim
1 Ravenous Baloth
1 Etched Oracle
2 Kitchen Finks
1 Eternal Witness
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
Sideboard:
2 Jund Charm
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Clearwater Goblet
2 Vedalken Shackles
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Putrefy
1 Firespout
1 Smother
3 Ancient Grudge
1 Deathmark
1 Ravenous Baloth
5th Mark Larson
4 Blinkmoth Nexus
4 Great Furnace
13 Mountain
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Spark Elemental
4 Sulfuric Vortex
3 Flames of the Blood Hand
4 Shrapnel Blast
4 Incinerate
4 Lava Spike
4 Magma Jet
4 Rift Bolt
Sideboard:
4 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Smash to Smithereens
3 Firespout
4 Pyrostatic Pillar
6th Andrew Just
Zoo
4 Stomping Ground
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Plains
1 Forest
1 Mountain
2 Mutavault
3 Temple Garden
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Wild Nacatl
4 Kird Ape
3 Gaddock Teeg
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Ethersworn Canonist
4 Seal of Fire
2 Oblivion Ring
4 Lightning Helix
4 Rift Bolt
2 Tarfire
Sideboard:
4 Smash to Smithereens
2 Umezawa's Jitte
2 Oblivion Ring
4 Pyroclasm
3 Jotun Grunt
7th Brian Reeves
3 Blinkmoth Nexus
3 Darksteel Citadel
4 Great Furnace
12 Mountain
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Shrapnel Blast
4 Lava Spike
4 Magma Jet
4 Seal of Fire
4 Rift Bolt
2 Shard Volley
3 Flames of the Blood Hand
3 Sulfuric Vortex
2 Incinerate
Sideboard:
1 Smash to Smithereens
3 Pyroclasm
3 Pyrostatic Pillar
4 Shattering Spree
4 Dragon's Claw
8th Casey Miller
18 Mountain
4 Magus of the Moon
4 Simian Spirit Guide
2 Dominus of Fealty
4 Demigod of Revenge
3 Deus of Calamity
3 Blood Moon
4 Desperate Ritual
2 Genju of the Spires
4 Seething Song
4 Chrome Mox
4 Empty the Warrens
4 Rite of Flame
Sideboard:
4 Goblin Sharpshooter
2 Trinisphere
1 Chalice of the Void
2 Firespout
3 Shatterstorm
3 Tormod's Crypt
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Added numbers and made it a little more organized, was killing my head.
But who was that guy that said gifts rock would be a viable contender a while back?
Oh, it was me.:cool:
So did anyone else notice that there where no Elf decks, and that every one of those lists where designed to beat it?
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Congrats, you predicted that a skill intensive deck that can be tuned to any meta game would become a powerful deck kudos :p. In seriousness, I love the 4 EE though, haha, poor wittle elves :(. I wonder if its gonna be like a psychology game, elves gets hated so much it vanishes, so hate goes away, so elves sweeps again, and over and over.
What did you expect? People always adapt to the flow of format changes and force out the best deck. Historically, this has happened many times. In the Yoko PTQ season 2007, people realized that TEPS was the best deck, and the rise in Orim's Chants forced it out, then Aggro Loam became the best deck, and Counterbalance forced it out. Valencia was littered with Crypts and Leylines, a concession to the speed of Dredge. And this past season, where Dredge continued to be considered "the Best Deck", people had to run the "eight card sideboard" strat and dedicate half their board to one deck because you didn't want to just scoop em to the fastest archetype, despite them being pretty rare by the time Philly rolled around.
Seems like there will have to be a concession between affinity and elves now - people will have to determine what their meta is like.
I know how the Meta works, but thanks. I was more just stating the obvious.;)
you have to realize that this was at a time where Zoo, Affinity and Tron were the "best" decks.:p
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Seriously "LOL" at that Zoo list. If that wasn't a fluke, I have no Idea what it was.
The Mana BAse is hella wonky, and, ontop of that, there aren't any tribal flames. OR Dark Confidant.
*Barf*
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That's how most of the Zoo lists are looking on MODO now. In fact that one is a straight c/p from one that came in 3rd in a PE recently.
Whats with the faaeiries list? Is it just me or only 56 cards. I assume 4 bobs were whats missing. But it could be 4 counterspells. nice to know which.
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unfortunately the original list from Bluegrassmagic.com only has 56 cards...so...
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well i wouldnt be surprised since it didnt have black, and i think incinerate would be better than tribal flames there anyway because it would just be a volcanic hammer......
And it's much less vulnerable to hate.
No ****. I'm obviously saying that a 5 color version would be better. Can you look just a little deeper into my text?
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