I was fairly impressed with the episode, although I agree it didn't have the total mind**** stuff that previous seasons had.
For some reason, I think that the person who died in Jack's flash forward at the end of Season 3 is Hurley. I'm not sure why exactly, just a gut feeling. I think Saiyid is also going to be one of the ones to get off the island, one of the Oceanic Six. I await next thursday with mixed feelings; I'm looking forward to the next episode but dreading my Developmental Psychology essay test.
Here's something interesting that I found. I'm not sure if it's a clue or just some error message (I'm not computer savvy), but I'll post it all the same. Go to www.oceanicairlines.com. The title bar says "Possibility", but the actual page looks like gibberish. It could be an error message, a hoax, or some kind of mistake, but it just seems like too much of a coincidence. Just thought I'd mention it, draw your own conclusions.
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Here's something interesting that I found. I'm not sure if it's a clue or just some error message (I'm not computer savvy), but I'll post it all the same. Go to www.oceanicairlines.com. The title bar says "Possibility", but the actual page looks like gibberish. It could be an error message, a hoax, or some kind of mistake, but it just seems like too much of a coincidence. Just thought I'd mention it, draw your own conclusions.
After Lost was over, a new show debuted on ABC (Eli Stone - which was actually pretty good). During the show, there was an ad for Oceanic Airlines that gave this address: http://www.flyoceanicair.com. And in case you don't want to watch the video:
About the only thing of importance is another link leading to http://www.find815.com, which is where the real action is.
After Lost was over, a new show debuted on ABC (Eli Stone - which was actually pretty good). During the show, there was an ad for Oceanic Airlines that gave this address: http://www.flyoceanicair.com. And in case you don't want to watch the video:
About the only thing of importance is another link leading to http://www.find815.com, which is where the real action is.
I don't know if your link is related or not.
That commercial was what prompted me to find the link. I was half asleep when I saw the commercial though, and I couldn't remember the exact address. I typed in different combinations of related words, and when I hit the link I mentioned, I thought that was the one the commercial was directing me to. I never found the link you posted (which I now recall is the correct one from the commercial), and now I'm not sure what the hell my link is to. Probably nothing, I guess *sigh*.
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That was a very small coffin in Sea. 3 finale, so I think maybe, depending on how far in the future the stories are taking place, Aaron and Clarie are the other 2, and Aaron died.
It really wasn't a small coffin; that was just a trick of perspective. The newspaper article Jack saw mentions a New York man found in his apartment. Aaron is neither from New York nor a man. The name was partly in a fold of the newspaper, but the letters we could see don't match anyone currently on the show. I'm thinking one of the people on the freighter.
... Unless, of course, it was someone living under as assumed name. Perhaps someone ashamed of his actions who wants to hide from his past life? The article also seems to mention that he's survived by a teenage son. (CoughcoughMichaelcoughcough)
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It really wasn't a small coffin; that was just a trick of perspective. The newspaper article Jack saw mentions a New York man found in his apartment. Aaron is neither from New York nor a man. The name was partly in a fold of the newspaper, but the letters we could see don't match anyone currently on the show. I'm thinking one of the people on the freighter.
My initial thought about it were that it was either Locke or Sawyer in the coffin. They both would fit the 'neither friend or family' description and their personalities would make them people who would have no one show up at their funeral.
Fourth, the "seal of grey ash" - what seal of grey ash? We never get to see the ground around the cabin.
i have no idea if this needed a spoiler tag or not. better safe then sorry.
at the end of season three you can see it when ben is taking john to see jacob. ben is careful to step over it and not in it. john picks some up, rubs it between his fingers and is quizzical looking about it.
My initial thought about it were that it was either Locke or Sawyer in the coffin. They both would fit the 'neither friend or family' description and their personalities would make them people who would have no one show up at their funeral.
... Unless, of course, it was someone living under as assumed name. Perhaps someone ashamed of his actions who wants to hide from his past life? The article also seems to mention that he's survived by a teenage son. (CoughcoughMichaelcoughcough)
I meant to do this last week so we're on the same page, so to speak, and I forgot:
Also, if he was living under an assumed name how would Jack and Kate know immediately who it is? How would the newspaper know he's from New York?
Also, if he was living under an assumed name how would Jack and Kate know immediately who it is? How would the newspaper know he's from New York?
Well Jack and Kate might know what name the person is going under. Also the newspaper would print information they got from the police. If the dead man had a New York id on him then they would say that he was from New York.
From that picture of the newspaper clipping I can make out part of the name to be J...antham. This does not match any of the current character names so it is either a character we do not know yet or a fake name.
One of the official podcasts said that the person in the coffin was a pre-established character. Having Locke acknowledge that Walt was taller all but confirms Walt is communicating with him from the future.
The specialists on Naomi's team are indeed "special" in some way, especially Miles. However, I think his apparent "ghostbusting" and seance with Naomi is a red herring: he can't speak to the dead, but he can see/communicate through time like Walt.
But this big question from this episode is the plane that is apparently at the bottom of the Sunda Trench. This doesn't seem like it can be the same kind of teleportation phenomenon going on with Walt and the birds, or the Tunisian polar bear in this episode. From Frank's reaction and Abbadon's insistence on making sure that everyone believes that there were no survivors, this place seems to be definitively part of the cover-up. Someone who followed "Find 815" can hopefully tell us more about the Christiane I and how they might be involved in the deception.
Also, what is with the photo of Ben? Has he been off-island since the purge?
Wow, great episode! Does anyone else think it was hands-down better than the primiere? Also, does it make me a bad person for being a lot more attached to the Frieghters than some of the old characters? I immediately like Daniel and Frank for their easy-going natures, and even though right now Miles is just another Angry Young Man Ken Leung is one of my favorite actors. I also realized that Charlotte is the first rehead on the show so far - down with the ubiquitous, identical blond women!
A theory about the intention of the Freighters: right now, pretty much everyone left on the island wants Ben dead. The Freighters' mission has something to do with him. If they want him dead too, then he dies: there's no conflict and thus no story. I think they want to take him off the island for some reason - possibly Abaddon (who creeps the hell out of me) wants/needs him for something. So ... maybe it was Ben in the coffin? It was certainly explain why nobody went to his funeral, and why Kate was so offended at Jack's suggestion that she might have.
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Has anyone else noticed that it wasn't until this airplane was found in the trench with no survivors that everything started to fire up about the wreck? Didn't Walt and Michael take a boat off the island? Wouldn't they have told someone that there are suvivors on an island from Oceanic Flight 815? Wouldn't a search party have been sent out earlier if Mike and Walt actually made it somewhere?
No one really knows where they went. No one has inquired why a rescue mission wasn't sent by the two of them.
Very interesting....
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I'm really diggin the infusion of new characters, though I chuckled audibly when I realized that was Jeff Fahey. I didn't realize he was still 'acting'..
I like how the show seems to be continuing to spiral outward, implications-wise. A return to the style of the first 2 seasons that way. 3rd season really didn't do much for me.
Has anyone else noticed that it wasn't until this airplane was found in the trench with no survivors that everything started to fire up about the wreck? Didn't Walt and Michael take a boat off the island? Wouldn't they have told someone that there are suvivors on an island from Oceanic Flight 815? Wouldn't a search party have been sent out earlier if Mike and Walt actually made it somewhere?
No one really knows where they went. No one has inquired why a rescue mission wasn't sent by the two of them.
Very interesting....
It is my theory that Michael and Walt were intercepted after they left the island. They were detained and their story was not allowed to get out. Then a cover up was staged.
There seem to be a few powerful groups interested in the island. Whatever was in the Hatch seemed to act as a cloaking device that protected the island from intruders with only the Others knowing a way in and out.
It seems obvious that the finding of the wreckage was staged so people would stop looking for flight 815. Since the wreckage is too deep to be raised, the camera footage is all that investigators would have to go on. Any discrepancies (like the missing wedding ring on the pilot's finger) can be easily explained by the conditions of the plane and the bodies on the ocean floor.
I'm not sure I know where you're coming from, Pod. Charlotte didn't come off as terribly *****y to me, and if anything I've gotten really sick of how Claire has no characterization beyond "blonde woman, with baby".
Also, I'm not sure I'd say very many of the characters are *likeable.* Of I met Ben or Sawyer I probably wouldn't like them very much! But the writers are great at creating complex, multifaceted characters that you get very involved with very quickly - Juliet is a perfect example.
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Wow, what a great episode. This season is heating up.
So now they have a helicopter that can fit six or seven people. Jack's team includes Jack, Kate, Sayid, Juliet, Rose, and Bernard. We know Hurley is one of the six, as are Jack and Kate. It would seem Frank would be needed in order to pilot the helicopter, so he's probably going to live.
The polar bear is amazing.
I must say, with the exception of Frank, there's nothing remotely interesting about these "Oceanaways". I have no clue what's the deal with Dan, Miles I really wish someone would shoot, ditto Charlotte... Frank's the only remotely likable one.
The big question is where are the Others? And what are they if not Dharma?
What was really amazing about this episode, in my mind, was how Locke survived. He survived because he was shot right where the kidney he lost was. So everything Locke ever went through, including the kidney, was all fated.
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After Lost was over, a new show debuted on ABC (Eli Stone - which was actually pretty good). During the show, there was an ad for Oceanic Airlines that gave this address: http://www.flyoceanicair.com. And in case you don't want to watch the video:
That commercial was what prompted me to find the link. I was half asleep when I saw the commercial though, and I couldn't remember the exact address. I typed in different combinations of related words, and when I hit the link I mentioned, I thought that was the one the commercial was directing me to. I never found the link you posted (which I now recall is the correct one from the commercial), and now I'm not sure what the hell my link is to. Probably nothing, I guess *sigh*.
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My initial thought about it were that it was either Locke or Sawyer in the coffin. They both would fit the 'neither friend or family' description and their personalities would make them people who would have no one show up at their funeral.
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at the end of season three you can see it when ben is taking john to see jacob. ben is careful to step over it and not in it. john picks some up, rubs it between his fingers and is quizzical looking about it.
I meant to do this last week so we're on the same page, so to speak, and I forgot:
Also, if he was living under an assumed name how would Jack and Kate know immediately who it is? How would the newspaper know he's from New York?
Well Jack and Kate might know what name the person is going under. Also the newspaper would print information they got from the police. If the dead man had a New York id on him then they would say that he was from New York.
From that picture of the newspaper clipping I can make out part of the name to be J...antham. This does not match any of the current character names so it is either a character we do not know yet or a fake name.
One of the official podcasts said that the person in the coffin was a pre-established character. Having Locke acknowledge that Walt was taller all but confirms Walt is communicating with him from the future.
The specialists on Naomi's team are indeed "special" in some way, especially Miles. However, I think his apparent "ghostbusting" and seance with Naomi is a red herring: he can't speak to the dead, but he can see/communicate through time like Walt.
But this big question from this episode is the plane that is apparently at the bottom of the Sunda Trench. This doesn't seem like it can be the same kind of teleportation phenomenon going on with Walt and the birds, or the Tunisian polar bear in this episode. From Frank's reaction and Abbadon's insistence on making sure that everyone believes that there were no survivors, this place seems to be definitively part of the cover-up. Someone who followed "Find 815" can hopefully tell us more about the Christiane I and how they might be involved in the deception.
Also, what is with the photo of Ben? Has he been off-island since the purge?
Few answers and more mysteries!
Why did John hush Hurley when he mentioned the tail?
More "proof" of teleporting, 3rd polar bear found in Tunisia with Hydra logo collar.
Harold Perrineau (Micheal) does not appear despite being credited as a regular cast member.
zomgz, there is an Other on the freighter!
Ok so, if Micheal is in the credits, AND there is a spy on the boat, maybe, jusssssssst maybe....
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Has anyone else noticed that it wasn't until this airplane was found in the trench with no survivors that everything started to fire up about the wreck? Didn't Walt and Michael take a boat off the island? Wouldn't they have told someone that there are suvivors on an island from Oceanic Flight 815? Wouldn't a search party have been sent out earlier if Mike and Walt actually made it somewhere?
No one really knows where they went. No one has inquired why a rescue mission wasn't sent by the two of them.
Very interesting....
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I like how the show seems to be continuing to spiral outward, implications-wise. A return to the style of the first 2 seasons that way. 3rd season really didn't do much for me.
Good stuff, all around.
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It is my theory that Michael and Walt were intercepted after they left the island. They were detained and their story was not allowed to get out. Then a cover up was staged.
There seem to be a few powerful groups interested in the island. Whatever was in the Hatch seemed to act as a cloaking device that protected the island from intruders with only the Others knowing a way in and out.
It seems obvious that the finding of the wreckage was staged so people would stop looking for flight 815. Since the wreckage is too deep to be raised, the camera footage is all that investigators would have to go on. Any discrepancies (like the missing wedding ring on the pilot's finger) can be easily explained by the conditions of the plane and the bodies on the ocean floor.
Also, I'm not sure I'd say very many of the characters are *likeable.* Of I met Ben or Sawyer I probably wouldn't like them very much! But the writers are great at creating complex, multifaceted characters that you get very involved with very quickly - Juliet is a perfect example.
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Wow, what a great episode. This season is heating up.
The polar bear is amazing.
I must say, with the exception of Frank, there's nothing remotely interesting about these "Oceanaways". I have no clue what's the deal with Dan, Miles I really wish someone would shoot, ditto Charlotte... Frank's the only remotely likable one.
The big question is where are the Others? And what are they if not Dharma?
What was really amazing about this episode, in my mind, was how Locke survived. He survived because he was shot right where the kidney he lost was. So everything Locke ever went through, including the kidney, was all fated.