That's because Destro Locks are mages with pets. (without the vending machineness).
But I really like pallies and warriors, paladins are CLEARLY (dons flame resistent gear) the better tanks.
I think all tanks are good. They just have different aspects which the excell at.
Warriors are, in my opinion, the best single target tanks for endgame material. Paladins are the best at large groups, where casters can aoe without fear, though a Paladin is really.. really hard. I mean really hard (r.e. Nearly impossible), to main tank in Black Temple, for example.
But when it comes to me spamming Seed of Corruption at trash mobs in Kara, there's no tank better than a pally.
The best way to level is a combination of questing and grinding. Admittedly five hours to lvl7 is very slow - it should take about one hour - but that's mostly because you don't know what you're doing.
Actually, since the patch where they changed the 1-60 exp/level and increased the experience from quests, you can eschew grinding entirely and level quite fast with just questing.
Amadi: Drain tanking pre-30 sucks because of the inefficiency of the lower rank Drain Lifes. It just doesn't do enough damage, in my experience.
That's because Destro Locks are mages with pets. (without the vending machineness).
But I really like pallies and warriors, paladins are CLEARLY (dons flame resistent gear) the better tanks.
I leveled as a ret pally (obv obv) and switched to Prot a level or two ago at 65 or 66. My first time tanking a real dungeon (UB), I forgot to put on Righteous Fury, and I still managed to keep aggro. Since then, I decided pally's are the **** at tanking, and if I had a holy pally healing me, I'd be in love.
If you want to level quick, get grinding. You're high enough level to AOE-grind the Zaxxis in Netherstorm, just south of Area 52. If you're specced Holy/Prot with the 70% pushback resistance from talents, you can switch on Concentration Aura, stand with your back to the wall and spam Consecrates and self-heals. Specced Holy without Redoubt, I'm able to take a dozen of them down at a time. You won't have my spell damage or +heal, of course, but your extra survivability more than makes up for it. With a semi-decent shield and armour you probably won't even need to heal if there's less than eight mobs on you.
I need to respec into useful things besides instances...I'm a relative newb to tanking at this point, so I just followed a 46/15 prot/ret guide, but it's totally awful for leveling in my experiences. Anyways, I mostly run instances as a result...gives me decent gear as I level, too. I'm leveling my bs right now to get some decent armorsmith plans, but otherwise I'm about to hit 68 (100k away or so) and once I hit that, I'll probably respec into a prot/holy mix.
Whoa, there. Do not spec Armoursmithing unless you plan to go retri or know you can get all the defence and avoidance you need from other gear pieces. The only items you get for the specialisation are the Breastplate of Kings chain, which are of most use to retri Paladins and Warriors. I have Bulwark of Ancient Kings in my bank, but even with epic defence gems it's still not as good even as Panzar'thar for tanking and the badge reward widdles all over it.
I'm speccing it to make some $, not to use it. My guildies said they made some decent money with it.
Your guildies are full of crap, then. All Armoursmithing items are BOP. It is possible to make a little money through Blacksmithing by crafting epic plans and a few things like Felsteel and Ragesteel, but the game's not worth the candle. If you want to make real money, the only ways to go are gathering professions, Enchanting and Alchemy. Jewelcrafting can make you some serious bank too, but the initial investment is huge.
It's the same for weaponsmithing, so I guess I don't really see the point. I have mining already, and I'm not going to drop bs. I might as well spec one or the other, and I don't really mind that as costs more to do the questline than ws does.
I find at high levels Demonology soloing is ridiculous. Affliction is great for a starter leveling set though thats for sure.
Felguard is the best pet ever I was easily killing two equal level things at once or more with my level 70 lock when I had him out.
The only horrible leveling spec is Destruction you have to drink water so much you might as well just be sitting down all day.
Meh, destro past 60 is not that bad. At level 70 i've found it to be decent farming actually. I have one so i should know, most creeps die before they reach me. Sure, i have to drink water every 5 or so mobs, but it's worth it.
2 units of same level, what?... You meant 2 players of same level, right? :D:p:rolleyes:
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This is going to sound horribly newbish, but I've recently come across a wand. I'm using a warlock, but cannot for the life of me figure out how to use it as my weapon. It's ranged...do I really need to buy shot for a wand?
EDIT: Nevermind, I simply had to equip shoot...I feel like a klutz. Now I get to watch the skill of it go up each blast.
Well at high levels with demonology I just use my felguard to finish off the doted mobs lol. Obviously that doesn't help with early levels where your right wands would be good then.
Having played a priest for a long time I never felt the need to use my wand speccing shadow gives you a very nice regen when you kill something. Priests actually have one of the least amount of mana problems compared to most classes that use mana extensively.
Sure they may have to drink once in a while but having played a mage I was sitting down and drinking every 2-3 fights.
Eh, I'm doing okay with my wand. a sudden 10 DPS ranged while the Voidwalker takes the beats works for me. Still have a decent dagger for when I get charged, though. I'm likely going back on my word and will but the game when my other bills have settled down. Three eye surguries in four months SUCKS.
Yeah better keep your DPS low cause voidwalker is a crappy tank at least he was back when I was still playing.
I would constantly pull off him due to his inability to keep aggro of course if you fire your wand only and add a dot or two that works.
Void is a joke, seriously. I have tried to solo our beloved dragon - Onyxia, it went all well and so on. The only problem?
Void losing aggro. I could've kept it alive forever, but when i drained life and then health funneled the hit points to void, it generated too much aggro and i failed. Seriously.. GEEZ. Give void tanking abilities.
Then again, i also leveled 25-30 by "Petattack, wand" strategy... Throwing a CoA in sometimes.
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When I was leveling on my lock, i used voidwalker a majority of the time. I didn't need him to hold aggro the entire time, he just let me get all my dots off before getting their attention. After my dots, I would life tap, then drain life. They would start to come at me during the drain life, but by that time, it's too late for it to matter.
My main is my warlock (affliction) and now the only pet I use is my imp for the near infinite mana it gives me (thanks to dark pact).
I quit playing WoW about 9 months ago but have recently decided to give it another try.
I have a generally affliction specced Warlock that I got to around level 40 back when I quit. I found it to be boring to play because no one seemed to want to do quests around that level, and soloing is both frustrating and tedious.
I remember that I mostly ended up working on my tailoring and enchanting skills, and fiddling around with the Auction House, rather than questing. Coming back to it, both skills are at 300 and I have about 350g to blow.
I've also re-rolled a new character, on a different server so I could play Alliance (Shaman). I've gotten him up to level 13, which took about 2 days of playing (maybe ~3-4 hours per day, so far).
So I want to know, what should I do to keep the game from getting boring? I joined two different guilds when I played last year, but both dissolved due to general lack of interest from the people who joined. I'd enjoy the game if I could play with other people, but doing quests typically means that (especially in the mid-game) almost no one is doing the same quests you want to do, and even if they are, they're probably in a different part of the quest.
I just don't want to get to level 30 again and feel completely stymied.
Also, if someone could tell me how to actually use Auctioneer and other UI mods, and how to use macros, that'd be super. I never did figure out either last time around, and it was frustrating.
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Basically the only two really fun things to do in the game is PVP and Raid for most people. Some people enjoy going out there by themselves and leveling and doing all that. But for most people the long time fans do one of the two i mentioned above a LOT.
The whole grind to 70 thing is not the game at all and is really pretty much the most shallow part of the game like all MMO's. You can have fun with it a bit sure but its definitely not what most people enjoy.
So for someone who doesn't plan to spend hours researching the best possible ways to level quickly, or spend hours actually levelling slowly, you would say that this just isn't the game for them?
The game doesn't support a level 40 player very well at all, and that's just the way it is? So I should just spend the next four months levelling my character in my slow, pathetic way until I'm level 70, and then I can start playing the game. Okay.
Come on. Is that really all the advice you can give?
What?! Look at the initial post; he is dead. Deceased. Kaputt. Indefinitely horizontal. In mafia games, you see, people are occasionally "killed off," and when that sad event occurs, he or she is no longer allowed to post, on account of rigor mortis and what-have-you.
'Welcome to Mafia Salvation', it said, 'Population: 3,660.' And someone, they never figured out who, had painted on the sign in red letters: '1,831 to lynch.'
Since leveling is overall about 3 times easier then in EQ there is less of a game for the low level player.
There is fun to be had there you can run groups a bit you can do some instances but its definitely not the "core" of the gameplay.
Realize this is not by blizzards design they have added TONS for the low level player to do. But since your average decent/good player who is going through 1-59 is only interested in the next level most don't even bother with instances.
This is just a generalization though by all means there are groups out there for low level stuff. But having leveled characters many times once you know all the proper areas proper quests exactly where to go for everything. You can level so fast that you just focus on getting to the high high levels.
Recently Blizzard made it even faster to level and I'm speaking of ridiculous speed back in the day when it was slower.
People act like the game takes such hardcore play when they have never played a single level on EQ talk about a game built for only the MMO fanatics. Even that game was too hardcore for me and I have unlimited free time nearly.
But yeah I doubt you will have fun unless you want to get to 60-70 minimum and thats the hard truth.
By the way don't act like its my fault its that way I'm giving you the general consensus. I may be being EXTREMELY BLUNT but that sure isn't my intention if you want it sugar coated ask the blizzard reps.
But I really like pallies and warriors, paladins are CLEARLY (dons flame resistent gear) the better tanks.
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I think all tanks are good. They just have different aspects which the excell at.
Warriors are, in my opinion, the best single target tanks for endgame material. Paladins are the best at large groups, where casters can aoe without fear, though a Paladin is really.. really hard. I mean really hard (r.e. Nearly impossible), to main tank in Black Temple, for example.
But when it comes to me spamming Seed of Corruption at trash mobs in Kara, there's no tank better than a pally.
Actually, since the patch where they changed the 1-60 exp/level and increased the experience from quests, you can eschew grinding entirely and level quite fast with just questing.
Amadi: Drain tanking pre-30 sucks because of the inefficiency of the lower rank Drain Lifes. It just doesn't do enough damage, in my experience.
I leveled as a ret pally (obv obv) and switched to Prot a level or two ago at 65 or 66. My first time tanking a real dungeon (UB), I forgot to put on Righteous Fury, and I still managed to keep aggro. Since then, I decided pally's are the **** at tanking, and if I had a holy pally healing me, I'd be in love.
I need to respec into useful things besides instances...I'm a relative newb to tanking at this point, so I just followed a 46/15 prot/ret guide, but it's totally awful for leveling in my experiences. Anyways, I mostly run instances as a result...gives me decent gear as I level, too. I'm leveling my bs right now to get some decent armorsmith plans, but otherwise I'm about to hit 68 (100k away or so) and once I hit that, I'll probably respec into a prot/holy mix.
I'm speccing it to make some $, not to use it. My guildies said they made some decent money with it.
It's the same for weaponsmithing, so I guess I don't really see the point. I have mining already, and I'm not going to drop bs. I might as well spec one or the other, and I don't really mind that as costs more to do the questline than ws does.
Meh, destro past 60 is not that bad. At level 70 i've found it to be decent farming actually. I have one so i should know, most creeps die before they reach me. Sure, i have to drink water every 5 or so mobs, but it's worth it.
2 units of same level, what?... You meant 2 players of same level, right? :D:p:rolleyes:
and acts without effort.
Teaching without verbosity,
producing without possessing,
creating without regard to result,
claiming nothing,
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EDIT: Nevermind, I simply had to equip shoot...I feel like a klutz. Now I get to watch the skill of it go up each blast.
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Having played a priest for a long time I never felt the need to use my wand speccing shadow gives you a very nice regen when you kill something. Priests actually have one of the least amount of mana problems compared to most classes that use mana extensively.
Sure they may have to drink once in a while but having played a mage I was sitting down and drinking every 2-3 fights.
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I would constantly pull off him due to his inability to keep aggro of course if you fire your wand only and add a dot or two that works.
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Void is a joke, seriously. I have tried to solo our beloved dragon - Onyxia, it went all well and so on. The only problem?
Void losing aggro. I could've kept it alive forever, but when i drained life and then health funneled the hit points to void, it generated too much aggro and i failed. Seriously.. GEEZ. Give void tanking abilities.
Then again, i also leveled 25-30 by "Petattack, wand" strategy... Throwing a CoA in sometimes.
and acts without effort.
Teaching without verbosity,
producing without possessing,
creating without regard to result,
claiming nothing,
the Sage has nothing to lose.
My main is my warlock (affliction) and now the only pet I use is my imp for the near infinite mana it gives me (thanks to dark pact).
I have a generally affliction specced Warlock that I got to around level 40 back when I quit. I found it to be boring to play because no one seemed to want to do quests around that level, and soloing is both frustrating and tedious.
I remember that I mostly ended up working on my tailoring and enchanting skills, and fiddling around with the Auction House, rather than questing. Coming back to it, both skills are at 300 and I have about 350g to blow.
I've also re-rolled a new character, on a different server so I could play Alliance (Shaman). I've gotten him up to level 13, which took about 2 days of playing (maybe ~3-4 hours per day, so far).
So I want to know, what should I do to keep the game from getting boring? I joined two different guilds when I played last year, but both dissolved due to general lack of interest from the people who joined. I'd enjoy the game if I could play with other people, but doing quests typically means that (especially in the mid-game) almost no one is doing the same quests you want to do, and even if they are, they're probably in a different part of the quest.
I just don't want to get to level 30 again and feel completely stymied.
Also, if someone could tell me how to actually use Auctioneer and other UI mods, and how to use macros, that'd be super. I never did figure out either last time around, and it was frustrating.
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The whole grind to 70 thing is not the game at all and is really pretty much the most shallow part of the game like all MMO's. You can have fun with it a bit sure but its definitely not what most people enjoy.
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The game doesn't support a level 40 player very well at all, and that's just the way it is? So I should just spend the next four months levelling my character in my slow, pathetic way until I'm level 70, and then I can start playing the game. Okay.
Come on. Is that really all the advice you can give?
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There is fun to be had there you can run groups a bit you can do some instances but its definitely not the "core" of the gameplay.
Realize this is not by blizzards design they have added TONS for the low level player to do. But since your average decent/good player who is going through 1-59 is only interested in the next level most don't even bother with instances.
This is just a generalization though by all means there are groups out there for low level stuff. But having leveled characters many times once you know all the proper areas proper quests exactly where to go for everything. You can level so fast that you just focus on getting to the high high levels.
Recently Blizzard made it even faster to level and I'm speaking of ridiculous speed back in the day when it was slower.
People act like the game takes such hardcore play when they have never played a single level on EQ talk about a game built for only the MMO fanatics. Even that game was too hardcore for me and I have unlimited free time nearly.
But yeah I doubt you will have fun unless you want to get to 60-70 minimum and thats the hard truth.
By the way don't act like its my fault its that way I'm giving you the general consensus. I may be being EXTREMELY BLUNT but that sure isn't my intention if you want it sugar coated ask the blizzard reps.
Feel free to bid on my cards here!