One question is bothering me....what on earth happens in between Books IV and V when snape comes back?
Lets look at the timeline.
1. Snape is a death eater.
2. Snape hears that Voldy is goin to kill lilly, runs to dumbledore, becomes a double agent.
3. Voldy dies, Snape agrees to help raise harry.
4. Snape hinders Quirrell/voldy from getting the stone in book I.
Now, Book IV happens, and voldemort knows snape is now close with dumbledore, and has not been helpful in book I. So how does snape go to voldemort and suggest to voldy that he can be a double agent working truly for voldemort?
Seriously? Think about it, what's he go, "Oh , after you died i got chummy with dumbledore by pretendin i was betraying you back then, but i wasnt, really!"
How on earth does voldemort trust him so much in the end, ti doesnt make sense!!
Maybe Snape was one of his most revered Death Eaters before the books... also i think he didn't see Snape betray him because he never thought that his actions would have consequences with the Death Eaters because he didn't see them as people(or equals) with feelings, he saw them as blindy loyal servants. He never for a second thought that one of his own would ever turn on him and thats why he was so taken aback when Harry told him Snape was on their side after he killed Lily.
Also didn't Joe say that a Squib would do magic in the book???
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Albus Severus Potter? That just doesn't roll off the tounge well at all. And i really think the last chapter could have gone into more detail about some of the other minor chararcters, like Luna maybe. Even though it was like cheesy blissful happy happy chapter.
So, did Draco and Harry make peace in the end, or we're they just enemies as always?
So, did Draco and Harry make peace in the end, or we're they just enemies as always?
Well, just having Draco (married and with a child) said a great deal, really. Namely the fact that he wasn't in Azkaban, and seemed to be living a normal life, meaning he and his family were granted leniency (if not outright acquitted). Considering Harry's the only one that knew what Narcissa did, as well as many of the visions through Voldemort involving the Malfoys, he'd probably be the one to testify in their favour.
Ron's comments at the end said a good deal too, namely joking about his daughter marrying a Malfoy (and not being seriously adamant about it). I'd say they forgave him for being a Death Eater and for what he did for Voldemort, but they still have the animosity that was there in the first few books.
True. Or perhaps he could help George with the Wheezly shop, which incidentally i was sad to find out there was no mention of that or george in the epilogue.
Anyhow, as i was saying, i'm sure he'd have to find a job, or ginny would have to, eventually. Truth be told, he'd probably be supported for life by the ministry in gratitude, so it would'nt be necessary, but i was just bringing up the point that harry wasn't set for life and as thus needed to learn at hogwarts in the 1st place in order to survive.
I'd say that Harry probably would try to play Quidditch for a living. Think about it. He wouldn't run the risk of losing the Elder Wand's allegiance and he enjoys it.
Also, it helps that he has no "high school" diploma... Professional sports should be just about right... Unless they have McWeasley's.
After going back on some points I remember JKR mentioned, I came up with this:
1. Who performs magic later in life?! I was under impression that Dudley was going to burst in at Hogwarts at any time...
2. I thought we were going to learn more about the Pettigrews?
As for the money talk:
Harry becomes... a Quidditch Player. Really. It's one of the lone stuff he's good at (other than fighting evil, but since he's not DADA Teacher, it'd be the other one.) If it's going to be shown sometime in the future, I'm betting he's going to play for the Chudley Cannons, play for Britain and later face Krum in the World Cup.
Seriously? Think about it, what's he go, "Oh , after you died i got chummy with dumbledore by pretendin i was betraying you back then, but i wasnt, really!"
They explained this in the first chapter of book 6 when Snape takes the unbreakable oath. Bellatrix asks him the exact same question and Snape responds "All I saw was greedy and unworthy Quirrel trying to steal the Philosophers Stone..." Something of that nature.
i think that the skinned child in the corner wasn't the piece of Harry i think it was Voldemort himself because when Harry tried to help it Dumbeldore said that he is "beyond help" or something like that.
Harry warns Voldemort to try and feel some remorse because he has seen what he is going to look like otherwise. I'm guessing thats what Voldemort is going to have to spend the afterlife as if he dosn't.
And randomly, my favorite moment in the whole series was:
"Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"
Loved it! Ditto with Xenophilius' name and Mrs. Weasley/Bellatrix duel.
But yeah, one wonders if there are even any North American wizards.
In book 6 and 7 they talk about Peruvian Darkness Powder alot, the name of which leads me to believe that it came from Peru and was manufactured by Peruvian wizards...
I finished Deathly Hollows a few days ago, and it was a good read. It would have been better if people didn’t spoil the ending for me. My biggest disappointment was that after days of successfully avoiding people who were yelling actual major spoilers of the book in public areas where people were reading them, or else yelling false spoilers in our ears while we read (Dumbledore is gay, Hagrid dies of AIDS, Hermione enters the convent, etc.) or sending SMS messages containing major plot details to HP fans, the ending was spoiled by one of my best friends in my Magic Multiplayer Casual Group two chapters away from finishing the book. He approached me as I was reading and said:
“Hey, you know, Harry died, came back to life, and he and Ginny…”
You can only imagine how angry I felt. After all the loud obnoxious strangers I avoided to read my book in peace, my friend spoiled the ending for me. I was so ticked off, when I got home I decided to make the most broken deck I could think of and bring it to my Multiplayer Group the next day and kill everyone with it, especially the guy who spoiled it for me.
As it turns out, I murdered everyone with my mono-blue deck. It was terrible. Turn two kills of thirty damage to the brain. You see, Jedi Starfighter 3R3, Professor Oak, Seel and Vermillious are all ridiculously broken cards that should never be printed in Magic at any given time. Yes, I used non-Magic cards, but I was angry, so bear with me. In the end my friend was such a good sport when I killed him I decided to forgive him anyway. I just could not stay mad at the dude. It was the most fun I ever had on the Magic table.
Lesson of this story: Do not spoil the book for others! Some people are not as forgiving as I am! What might I have done if we were not Magic players, but firing range trainees, for instance?
However, the book was excellent, even though it was spoiled for me. The part the touched me the most was:
The Prince’s Tale. Someone spoiled me that Snape died, but that chapter almost brought me to tears regardless, because no one told me what he died for.
Anyway, spoiled or not, the book was an excellent read. It should come with a warning label though, ‘Spoiling this book is dangerous to your health’, or something like it.
Oh, and if you managed to read the book without being spoiled even once, good for you. Some people were not as lucky.
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Absolutely loved the book. My favourite of the series so far! The subplots with the Hallows and Horcruxes and everything were very well done.
The epilogue was also very well written, leaving us just enough detail to be happy with the way things turned out but also wanting more! I'd love to see JK write more about Harry's and Ron's/Hermione's kids at Hogwarts, but I don't think she will.
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I'm not so sure about this book. It was fairly obvious what was going to happen from the word go. This was mainly due to JK writing herself into a corner in book 5 with the prophecy. So really, only 3 things could have happened: Harry and Voldemort both die, Voldy lives and Harry dies, or Harry lives and Voldy dies. I doubt she would have even considered having Harry die while Voldemort lives on to rule the world, so that really only left two possibilities.
And maybe it was just me, but this book seemed overly corny, and that kind of frustrated me. For example, Harry, Ron, and Hermione are going into the room that everyone stores their crap in, and Ron brings up the house elves and him and Hermione start making out right then and there. Don't look now, but there is a huge battle that is going to determine the fate of all the wizards, and you start making out? Continuing with this, the whole Kreacher leading the house elves stabbing people in the ankles was a bit overdone as well. And, Voldemort saying that he alone knew the deepest secrets of Hogwarts, yet EVERYONE threw their useless crap in that room, making it really underwhelming when I found out that was the hiding place for the Ravenclaw horcrux. I was hoping for something that wasn't previously mentioned.
As for deaths, Fred's death really annoyed me. I don't understand why JK felt it necessary for Fred and Percy to crack jokes after they beat some death eaters. They are literally fighting for their lives, and then they decide its necessary to crack a corny joke. This is really insignificant, but things like this just ruin the dramatic fight scenes for me. No one is going to make witty cracks when their life is in peril.
I was kind of disappointed with the whole RAB thing as well. I thought he was going to play a much more significant part, but instead was glossed over and didn't really play a part at all.
On the whole I thought it was alright. Maybe I just haven't noticed it before, but this book just seemed way overly corny. I didn't like how much of the middle was Harry, Ron, and Hermione *****ing at each other in the woods, and I thought the Hallows were going to play a bigger role than they did. The ending was as good as it could have been, but it would have been interesting if there were some kind of twist that no one could really see coming.
I'm not so sure about this book. It was fairly obvious what was going to happen from the word go. This was mainly due to JK writing herself into a corner in book 5 with the prophecy. So really, only 3 things could have happened: Harry and Voldemort both die, Voldy lives and Harry dies, or Harry lives and Voldy dies. I doubt she would have even considered having Harry die while Voldemort lives on to rule the world, so that really only left two possibilities.
And maybe it was just me, but this book seemed overly corny, and that kind of frustrated me. For example, Harry, Ron, and Hermione are going into the room that everyone stores their crap in, and Ron brings up the house elves and him and Hermione start making out right then and there. Don't look now, but there is a huge battle that is going to determine the fate of all the wizards, and you start making out? Continuing with this, the whole Kreacher leading the house elves stabbing people in the ankles was a bit overdone as well. And, Voldemort saying that he alone knew the deepest secrets of Hogwarts, yet EVERYONE threw their useless crap in that room, making it really underwhelming when I found out that was the hiding place for the Ravenclaw horcrux. I was hoping for something that wasn't previously mentioned.
As for deaths, Fred's death really annoyed me. I don't understand why JK felt it necessary for Fred and Percy to crack jokes after they beat some death eaters. They are literally fighting for their lives, and then they decide its necessary to crack a corny joke. This is really insignificant, but things like this just ruin the dramatic fight scenes for me. No one is going to make witty cracks when their life is in peril.
I was kind of disappointed with the whole RAB thing as well. I thought he was going to play a much more significant part, but instead was glossed over and didn't really play a part at all.
On the whole I thought it was alright. Maybe I just haven't noticed it before, but this book just seemed way overly corny. I didn't like how much of the middle was Harry, Ron, and Hermione *****ing at each other in the woods, and I thought the Hallows were going to play a bigger role than they did. The ending was as good as it could have been, but it would have been interesting if there were some kind of twist that no one could really see coming.
So what was the corny part, after reading Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series, Salvatore's Drizzt Saga, Feists riftwar Saga, Goodkind's novels, the Harry Potter series as a whole is just very underwhelming.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed reading the whole series and like watching the movies, but you can't say that one part is corny, when pretty much the whole series is one huge corndog.
any french speakers out there care to translate the black family motto, "toujours pur" for us? im not entirely sure its french, but it sure looks like it anyway.
tourjours pur means "always pure" and is the black family motto because they had pure blood pride. For example, andromeda black, the cousin to sirius black and bellatrix's little sister was burned off the family tree because she married Ted Tonks, a muggle-born wizard.
It just seemed too happy. Everyone having respectively wives and husbands, friends and kids. And when I read the final sentence "All was fine.", I really felt that whole last chapter shouldn't be there at all.
Also, making Harry die and then raise from the dead was just too classic. At least I thought Dumbledore was the one who should be resembling Jesus, that would in any case make it a little more interresting than the main character always being the hero.
In fact, I was hoping Snape was the hero. Yeah, he turned out to be good and all, but dieing to Voldemort just like that was very disappointing. Just how cool wouldn't it be if Snape, who seemingly was trusted by Voldemort stabbed him in the back (no, not literally), saving Harry?
Well, maybe it is just I loving my theories too much, but I think this was a really boring way to end it after a series with great, fantastic and innovative books.
I so called the fact that snape was told to kill Dumbledore, by Dumbledore. I also called the fact that Neville would become the Herbology teacher.
On a Harry Potter but not Deathly Hallows note, are the heads of houses connected to specific courses Potions Slytherin, Transfiguration Grygindor, etc.
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its possible, seeing as both snape and slughorn were potions teachers when they were the head of slytherin.if this were true, then it would be charms for ravenclaw(flitwick) and herbology for hufflepuff.
however, i dont think we have any data to support that this has always been the case, as iirc there has been no mention of who the previous heads of house were.
in any case, i dont think its likely seeing what happens to neville (gryffindor) in the last chapter.
edit: neville's future isnt in the last chapter, rather JK tells us what happens to him in the sort-of-interview she recently gave
Eh? That was answered in the 5th book.
That was made fairly obvious after Harry's talk with Luna.
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Ron's comments at the end said a good deal too, namely joking about his daughter marrying a Malfoy (and not being seriously adamant about it). I'd say they forgave him for being a Death Eater and for what he did for Voldemort, but they still have the animosity that was there in the first few books.
Also, it helps that he has no "high school" diploma... Professional sports should be just about right... Unless they have McWeasley's.
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1. Who performs magic later in life?! I was under impression that Dudley was going to burst in at Hogwarts at any time...
2. I thought we were going to learn more about the Pettigrews?
As for the money talk:
She also says that she'll be writing an Encyclopedia type book to follow up on other characters.
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In book 6 and 7 they talk about Peruvian Darkness Powder alot, the name of which leads me to believe that it came from Peru and was manufactured by Peruvian wizards...
You can only imagine how angry I felt. After all the loud obnoxious strangers I avoided to read my book in peace, my friend spoiled the ending for me. I was so ticked off, when I got home I decided to make the most broken deck I could think of and bring it to my Multiplayer Group the next day and kill everyone with it, especially the guy who spoiled it for me.
As it turns out, I murdered everyone with my mono-blue deck. It was terrible. Turn two kills of thirty damage to the brain. You see, Jedi Starfighter 3R3, Professor Oak, Seel and Vermillious are all ridiculously broken cards that should never be printed in Magic at any given time. Yes, I used non-Magic cards, but I was angry, so bear with me. In the end my friend was such a good sport when I killed him I decided to forgive him anyway. I just could not stay mad at the dude. It was the most fun I ever had on the Magic table.
Lesson of this story: Do not spoil the book for others! Some people are not as forgiving as I am! What might I have done if we were not Magic players, but firing range trainees, for instance?
However, the book was excellent, even though it was spoiled for me. The part the touched me the most was:
Anyway, spoiled or not, the book was an excellent read. It should come with a warning label though, ‘Spoiling this book is dangerous to your health’, or something like it.
Oh, and if you managed to read the book without being spoiled even once, good for you. Some people were not as lucky.
How well do you do against one?
The epilogue was also very well written, leaving us just enough detail to be happy with the way things turned out but also wanting more! I'd love to see JK write more about Harry's and Ron's/Hermione's kids at Hogwarts, but I don't think she will.
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I'm not so sure about this book. It was fairly obvious what was going to happen from the word go. This was mainly due to JK writing herself into a corner in book 5 with the prophecy. So really, only 3 things could have happened: Harry and Voldemort both die, Voldy lives and Harry dies, or Harry lives and Voldy dies. I doubt she would have even considered having Harry die while Voldemort lives on to rule the world, so that really only left two possibilities.
And maybe it was just me, but this book seemed overly corny, and that kind of frustrated me. For example, Harry, Ron, and Hermione are going into the room that everyone stores their crap in, and Ron brings up the house elves and him and Hermione start making out right then and there. Don't look now, but there is a huge battle that is going to determine the fate of all the wizards, and you start making out? Continuing with this, the whole Kreacher leading the house elves stabbing people in the ankles was a bit overdone as well. And, Voldemort saying that he alone knew the deepest secrets of Hogwarts, yet EVERYONE threw their useless crap in that room, making it really underwhelming when I found out that was the hiding place for the Ravenclaw horcrux. I was hoping for something that wasn't previously mentioned.
As for deaths, Fred's death really annoyed me. I don't understand why JK felt it necessary for Fred and Percy to crack jokes after they beat some death eaters. They are literally fighting for their lives, and then they decide its necessary to crack a corny joke. This is really insignificant, but things like this just ruin the dramatic fight scenes for me. No one is going to make witty cracks when their life is in peril.
I was kind of disappointed with the whole RAB thing as well. I thought he was going to play a much more significant part, but instead was glossed over and didn't really play a part at all.
On the whole I thought it was alright. Maybe I just haven't noticed it before, but this book just seemed way overly corny. I didn't like how much of the middle was Harry, Ron, and Hermione *****ing at each other in the woods, and I thought the Hallows were going to play a bigger role than they did. The ending was as good as it could have been, but it would have been interesting if there were some kind of twist that no one could really see coming.
So what was the corny part, after reading Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time Series, Salvatore's Drizzt Saga, Feists riftwar Saga, Goodkind's novels, the Harry Potter series as a whole is just very underwhelming.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed reading the whole series and like watching the movies, but you can't say that one part is corny, when pretty much the whole series is one huge corndog.
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It just seemed too happy. Everyone having respectively wives and husbands, friends and kids. And when I read the final sentence "All was fine.", I really felt that whole last chapter shouldn't be there at all.
Also, making Harry die and then raise from the dead was just too classic. At least I thought Dumbledore was the one who should be resembling Jesus, that would in any case make it a little more interresting than the main character always being the hero.
In fact, I was hoping Snape was the hero. Yeah, he turned out to be good and all, but dieing to Voldemort just like that was very disappointing. Just how cool wouldn't it be if Snape, who seemingly was trusted by Voldemort stabbed him in the back (no, not literally), saving Harry?
Well, maybe it is just I loving my theories too much, but I think this was a really boring way to end it after a series with great, fantastic and innovative books.
On a Harry Potter but not Deathly Hallows note, are the heads of houses connected to specific courses Potions Slytherin, Transfiguration Grygindor, etc.
Dry up, O Sea.
Burn out, O Sun.
Grant us power Earthly Leaders and Gatekeepers of Hell.
Guide us Makers of the Underworld.
however, i dont think we have any data to support that this has always been the case, as iirc there has been no mention of who the previous heads of house were.
in any case, i dont think its likely seeing what happens to neville (gryffindor) in the last chapter.
edit: neville's future isnt in the last chapter, rather JK tells us what happens to him in the sort-of-interview she recently gave