Bannon could be denied due to being a Nazi, if Congress decides to be reasonable about it (don't hold your breath). Flynn isn't the worst choice, though he'd be controversial under any other president. Priebus is just fine, though it would be horrifyingly funny if Priebus is the one who gets the most debate in Congress. Sessions is racist and a Congressional Obstructionist, but both of those are probably not a big deal to Congressional Republicans. Pompeo is a sadist and anti-Bill-of-Rights, but is also a Congressional Obstructionist, so Congress may support their own there.
Bannon could be denied due to being a Nazi, if Congress decides to be reasonable about it (don't hold your breath). Flynn isn't the worst choice, though he'd be controversial under any other president. Priebus is just fine, though it would be horrifyingly funny if Priebus is the one who gets the most debate in Congress. Sessions is racist and a Congressional Obstructionist, but both of those are probably not a big deal to Congressional Republicans. Pompeo is a sadist and anti-Bill-of-Rights, but is also a Congressional Obstructionist, so Congress may support their own there.
Steve Bannon is not up for a cabinet-level position. Congress doesn't get a vote.
Bannon could be denied due to being a Nazi, if Congress decides to be reasonable about it (don't hold your breath). Flynn isn't the worst choice, though he'd be controversial under any other president. Priebus is just fine, though it would be horrifyingly funny if Priebus is the one who gets the most debate in Congress. Sessions is racist and a Congressional Obstructionist, but both of those are probably not a big deal to Congressional Republicans. Pompeo is a sadist and anti-Bill-of-Rights, but is also a Congressional Obstructionist, so Congress may support their own there.
Steve Bannon is not up for a cabinet-level position. Congress doesn't get a vote.
Mr. Spencer’s after-dinner speech began with a polemic against the “mainstream media,” before he briefly paused. “Perhaps we should refer to them in the original German?” he said.
The audience immediately screamed back, “Lugenpresse,” reviving a Nazi-era word that means “lying press.”
Mr. Spencer suggested that the news media had been critical of Mr. Trump throughout the campaign in order to protect Jewish interests. He mused about the political commentators who gave Mr. Trump little chance of winning.
“One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless golem,” he said, referring to a Jewish fable about the golem, a clay giant that a rabbi brings to life to protect the Jews.
“Trump and Steve Bannon are not alt-right people,” Mr. Brimelow said, adding that they had opportunistically seized on two issues that the alt-right cares most about — stopping immigration and fighting political correctness — and used them to mobilize white voters.
Mr. Spencer said that while he did not think the president-elect should be considered alt-right, “I do think we have a psychic connection, or you can say a deeper connection, with Donald Trump in a way that we simply do not have with most Republicans.”
White identity, he said, is at the core of both the alt-right movement and the Trump movement, even if most voters for Mr. Trump “aren’t willing to articulate it as such.”
Let me be clear: I'm not happy that neo-Nazis are happy. But what I see here is an extremist group grasping at straws to legitimize itself. When you have to say you've got a "psychic connection" to your preferred president, and attribute your ideology to the greater public while admitting they "aren't willing to articulate it", you're not there yet. If Bernie Sanders had won and the Times found some hardcore Marxists to say, "Yes! This means the public is secretly yearning for the Communist Revolution, they're just not willing to articulate it", would you buy it? Because I wouldn't.
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Let me be clear: I'm not happy that neo-Nazis are happy. But what I see here is an extremist group grasping at straws to legitimize itself. When you have to say you've got a "psychic connection" to your preferred president, and attribute your ideology to the greater public while admitting they "aren't willing to articulate it", you're not there yet. If Bernie Sanders had won and the Times found some hardcore Marxists to say, "Yes! This means the public is secretly yearning for the Communist Revolution, they're just not willing to articulate it", would you buy it? Because I wouldn't.
From what I've seen, Neo-Nazi groups tend to hide until they think they can get away with their bull***** and then start acting overtly, so their bosses feeling comfortable enough to say stuff like this is itself a problem, because that feeling of comfort will lead to an up-tick in racial hate crimes and a push to legitimize neo-nazi bull***** in public.
EDIT: can someone get me context on this image? I grabbed it off twitter and idk how legit it is and if it's a quote from the meeting I posted a link about
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From what I've seen, Neo-Nazi groups tend to hide until they think they can get away with their bull***** and then start acting overtly, so their bosses feeling comfortable enough to say stuff like this is itself a problem, because that feeling of comfort will lead to an up-tick in racial hate crimes and a push to legitimize neo-nazi bull***** in public.
Oh, yeah. It's not good. But it's not Nazi-in-the-White-House bad. People who are waiting for President Trump to start rounding up the Jews will be waiting for a long time.
EDIT: can someone get me context on this image? I grabbed it off twitter and idk how legit it is and if it's a quote from the meeting I posted a link about
At first glance, the banner looks shopped to me, but does it really matter? Assuming "alt-right founder" refers to Richard Spencer, he's said enough other stuff to make it perfectly clear how he thinks. All it would mean is that whichever well-meaning idiot falsified the image is feeding the alt-right's narrative of unjust persecution. It continually amazes me how many people feel the need to lie even when the truth is on their side. Not helping.
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So which posts and people need confirmation and which don't?
Also who are the Backups if Congress says no?
So the cabinet level positions need confirmation from the Senate - that's all the "secretary" positions, plus attorney general. A wide variety (like over a thousand) of lower-level positions in the various department also need approval, but those are usually pretty minor - they mostly only get held up as part of a larger strategy of obstruction (or if someone really controversial gets nominated).
If an appointment gets rejected (or just not voted on), the president can still make a recess appointment, if the Senate actually goes into recess. Republicans have been refusing to let the Senate go into recess for the last several years to effectively remove the power of the recess appointment - it's unclear if they will continue to do that with a Republican in the White House. Failing that, the position remains vacant until the president nominates someone else and the Senate approves them.
EDIT: The CNN crawl is real, it's in reference to Spencer saying, "One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless golem." Although apparently the "people" he was referring to were the media.
UPDATE: The Republicans plan to strip NASA's Earth Science division because it's telling them things their buddies in industry don't like. [link]
Bob Walker, a senior Trump campaign adviser, said there was no need for Nasa to do what he has previously described as “politically correct environmental monitoring”.
Seriously, Politically Correct just means stuff right wingers don't like, doesn't it?
24/11/16 update
Today in "disturbing if true": Votes may have been manipulated during the most recent election. Specifically, there's a group of computer scientists saying Trump may have won some swing states via fraud, and they're calling for an investigation. I can't see this developing well no matter what happens, honestly. [link]
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However, FiveThirtyEight says the rumors of hacking are probably bull*****, and I expect they're correct. [link]
Yo, so Trump's official policy on climate is that Climate Change is bull*****, something we probably should have seen coming. [link]
Here's a link to a list of things you could consider doing if you want to help avoid the end of human civilization. [link] While you're at it, write to your government telling them to not be such chuckle****s. Maybe point out that China is going to eat the USA's lunch in terms of clean energy and increased efficiency if the US doesn't catch up, idk. I'm not your dad.
While I'm being depressing: Steve Bannon believes in the genetic superiority of certain ethnic groups (and maybe so does Trump), Bannon also wants only property owners to be allowed to vote. [link]
Bannon also wants only property owners to be allowed to vote. [link]
So what exactly defines "land owner" in Bannon's world?
Because my mother is the kind of person who started volunteering at a refugee assistance center just to thumb her nose that the politicians talking about blocking Syrian refugees, and she owns 40 acres; I'm sure she would gift most of it in 1"-square blocks to various minority individuals if that meant giving them the right to vote again.
6.3M square inches in an acre, 39 acres (let's say she keeps the acre around the house itself)... 246,600,000 available "plots" of land to gift, and approximately 115,760,000 nonwhite American citizens.
Bannon also wants only property owners to be allowed to vote. [link]
So what exactly defines "land owner" in Bannon's world?
Because my mother is the kind of person who started volunteering at a refugee assistance center just to thumb her nose that the politicians talking about blocking Syrian refugees, and she owns 40 acres; I'm sure she would gift most of it in 1"-square blocks to various minority individuals if that meant giving them the right to vote again.
6.3M square inches in an acre, 39 acres (let's say she keeps the acre around the house itself)... 246,600,000 available "plots" of land to gift, and approximately 115,760,000 nonwhite American citizens.
If trends towards disenfranchisement continue under the current guise of "ID Laws", it'd probably be her first priority to start shuttling people to the DMV and ready to help contribute to the pound of flesh and xanax that could be added to the poll taxes process. In fact, she may want to get started now in case the process does start getting more strenuous in the future.
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If trends towards disenfranchisement continue under the current guise of "ID Laws", it'd probably be her first priority to start shuttling people to the DMV and ready to help contribute to the pound of flesh and xanax that could be added to the poll taxes process. In fact, she may want to get started now in case the process does start getting more strenuous in the future.
I live in Ohio. Voting requires a form of identification (commonly drivers license or state ID, though utility bill and other things are accepted) Its never taken me more than 15 minutes to vote. Every adult should have BC, SS and valid ID. Figure out the system. Its damn hard to do anything at the BMV without these. At least two of them are no charge. God forbid you get a suspension for not having it - asking friends to drive you out of county to an office that can reinstate it is a huge hassle and can come with a lot of fines. Don't cry about the $25 or having to wait at the SS office with old people who occupy the sole teller for 3 hours. We all have to do it. Figure out the system. And while I'm on the soap box - pay the credit card balance off every month, keep at least 2 months pay in a savings account, don't buy ***** you can't afford, cigarettes (and weed) are bad for your lungs and a huge waste of money.
If trends towards disenfranchisement continue under the current guise of "ID Laws", it'd probably be her first priority to start shuttling people to the DMV and ready to help contribute to the pound of flesh and xanax that could be added to the poll taxes process. In fact, she may want to get started now in case the process does start getting more strenuous in the future.
I live in Ohio. Voting requires a form of identification (commonly drivers license or state ID, though utility bill and other things are accepted) Its never taken me more than 15 minutes to vote. Every adult should have BC, SS and valid ID.
Voter ID addresses a nonproblem and in doing so disenfranchises people from their right to vote and disproportionately so towards democrats, minorities and poor people (all are correlated with each other). America needs more representation in it's voting system- not less. That's a bigger problem than the **** all voter impersonation that ever occurs.
Bannon also wants only property owners to be allowed to vote. [link]
So what exactly defines "land owner" in Bannon's world?
Because my mother is the kind of person who started volunteering at a refugee assistance center just to thumb her nose that the politicians talking about blocking Syrian refugees, and she owns 40 acres; I'm sure she would gift most of it in 1"-square blocks to various minority individuals if that meant giving them the right to vote again.
6.3M square inches in an acre, 39 acres (let's say she keeps the acre around the house itself)... 246,600,000 available "plots" of land to gift, and approximately 115,760,000 nonwhite American citizens.
If trends towards disenfranchisement continue under the current guise of "ID Laws", it'd probably be her first priority to start shuttling people to the DMV and ready to help contribute to the pound of flesh and xanax that could be added to the poll taxes process. In fact, she may want to get started now in case the process does start getting more strenuous in the future.
I believe the place she's volunteering does provide assistance for refugees to become citizens and vote/etc., but I don't work there so I'm not certain. I know they help refugees to get housing and jobs, and they even have furniture donated to help them get started in their new apartment. Mostly she volunteers as a secretary in their office, but since she has access to a pickup she's also helped a few of the refugees move into their new place.
If trends towards disenfranchisement continue under the current guise of "ID Laws", it'd probably be her first priority to start shuttling people to the DMV and ready to help contribute to the pound of flesh and xanax that could be added to the poll taxes process. In fact, she may want to get started now in case the process does start getting more strenuous in the future.
I live in Ohio. Voting requires a form of identification (commonly drivers license or state ID, though utility bill and other things are accepted) Its never taken me more than 15 minutes to vote. Every adult should have BC, SS and valid ID. Figure out the system. Its damn hard to do anything at the BMV without these. At least two of them are no charge. God forbid you get a suspension for not having it - asking friends to drive you out of county to an office that can reinstate it is a huge hassle and can come with a lot of fines. Don't cry about the $25 or having to wait at the SS office with old people who occupy the sole teller for 3 hours. We all have to do it. Figure out the system.
One of my roommates has Asperger's. He has a valid photo ID, and it still took him nearly half an hour to get cleared to actually cast his vote this past election. With zero line. (My roommates and I all did early voting on a Monday.)
If you think that voter ID laws do not significantly affect you and therefore anyone should be able to handle it, you're simply mistaken.
Yo, so Trump's official policy on climate is that Climate Change is bull*****, something we probably should have seen coming. [link]
Here's a link to a list of things you could consider doing if you want to help avoid the end of human civilization. [link] While you're at it, write to your government telling them to not be such chuckle****s. Maybe point out that China is going to eat the USA's lunch in terms of clean energy and increased efficiency if the US doesn't catch up, idk. I'm not your dad.
While I'm being depressing: Steve Bannon believes in the genetic superiority of certain ethnic groups (and maybe so does Trump), Bannon also wants only property owners to be allowed to vote. [link]
What if I eat a hotdog off the flag? This is important I only have left-over plates from 4th of July!
Oh wait, I also use an incinerator for my trash! Am I supposed to bury my plates now?
Okay, comprehensive election update: the tl;dr version is President-Elect Donald Trump is not done with the election.
First, the recounts.
Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party has garnered a new national spotlight by kicking off recounts in Wisconsin and Michigan, and although she's withdrawn her petition in Pennsylvania state court over a million dollar bond, she's trying to force a recount through federal court now.** Additionally, an advocacy group just filed a suit to try to force a hand-recount in Florida. The Democrat Party and Clinton campaign are for the most part steering clear of these recounts because of President Obama's call for smooth transition of power as well as Secretary Clinton jeering Trump for weeks to accept the outcome of the election regardless of the results biting her, although the Clinton campaign is tagging along for "fairness to all sides sake", whatever that means.
Why does this matter?
Not because of the likelihood it will change the results, but because it's visibly irritating Trump, which is having its own effects... that I feel are best described as unhinging. Donald Trump's complaint that three million people voted illegally originated directly from the Clinton campaign in essence legitimizing Dr. Stein's recount. He's also spending money to fight all the recounts Dr. Stein started, which considering he just lost stopping power two of the three and will have to keep fighting a third and soon a fourth will also likely stress Trump even more... and I'd like to point out Trump has a history of expressing frustration in blunt tweets.
**Okay, is it just me or are we all officially reliving 2000 now? Except only instead of Al Gore, Ralph Nader is leading the recount charge. In terms of roles, we have Trump=Bush, Clinton=Gore, Stein=Nader, and Bernie Sanders=Bill Bradley. I can't be the only one seeing this, right?
Second, the Hamilton Electors.
Remember those talks of faithless electors? Well, now they've dubbed themselves the Hamilton Electors, have legal representation and a private platform to strategize thanks to Law Professor Lawrence Lessig and his friends, and a Texas Republican elector has joined the effort. Also, it looks like the Hamilton Electors have reached a candidate to cast a ballot for instead of Trump or Clinton: Governor John Kasich.
Why does this matter?
Because it means this movement is organized and therefore a threat the Trump camp cannot ignore. I am not sure how Trump will react (or has reacted because I don't read his twitter feed first hand because I just don't want to), but I don't think it will be pretty. I speculate he's likely to see this as an attack on all sides and respond accordingly.
So... personally with all that's exploded over the past weekend, I would like to recommend for this forum that the Donald Trump transition become its own thread and that the post-election mess continue in this thread because I think there's officially enough to split the topics now.
Donald Trump's complaint that three million people voted illegally originated directly from the Clinton campaign in essence legitimizing Dr. Stein's recount.
I think that's the most hilarious part of the recount. "What? They're calling for a recount? But I won the popular vote in those states if you don't count all the vote fraud that happened in those states! You don't need to recount, just ignore the fraud!"
Second, the Hamilton Electors.
Remember those talks of faithless electors? Well, now they've dubbed themselves the Hamilton Electors, have legal representation and a private platform to strategize thanks to Law Professor Lawrence Lessig and his friends, and a Texas Republican elector has joined the effort. Also, it looks like the Hamilton Electors have reached a candidate to cast a ballot for instead of Trump or Clinton: Governor John Kasich.
What I don't understand is why most of the Hamilton Electors are Democrats voting against Hillary. Surely it would be a better plan to try and persuade moderate and disgusted Republicans like the gentleman from Texas to vote for Kaisch whilst retaining your vote for Clinton. Atleast that would then drag Trump down below that magic 270 number he needs and it would be sent to the House of Representatives to decide.
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Second, the Hamilton Electors.
Remember those talks of faithless electors? Well, now they've dubbed themselves the Hamilton Electors, have legal representation and a private platform to strategize thanks to Law Professor Lawrence Lessig and his friends, and a Texas Republican elector has joined the effort. Also, it looks like the Hamilton Electors have reached a candidate to cast a ballot for instead of Trump or Clinton: Governor John Kasich.
What I don't understand is why most of the Hamilton Electors are Democrats voting against Hillary. Surely it would be a better plan to try and persuade moderate and disgusted Republicans like the gentleman from Texas to vote for Kaisch whilst retaining your vote for Clinton. At least that would then drag Trump down below that magic 270 number he needs and it would be sent to the House of Representatives to decide.
It's the price they are willing to pay to bring Republicans on board. Honestly even if Democrat electors all tow the line for Clinton anyway, it wouldn't matter because the magic number is 270. It doesn't matter how close Secretary Clinton gets (A 269 could be fun I suppose if there was only two people's name in the running) otherwise because there's nothing to gain from proportion unless it's a winning majority/plurality of the vote.
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Second, the Hamilton Electors.
Remember those talks of faithless electors? Well, now they've dubbed themselves the Hamilton Electors, have legal representation and a private platform to strategize thanks to Law Professor Lawrence Lessig and his friends, and a Texas Republican elector has joined the effort. Also, it looks like the Hamilton Electors have reached a candidate to cast a ballot for instead of Trump or Clinton: Governor John Kasich.
So far at I can tell, right now it's eight Democratic electors and zero Republican electors.
This isn't happening.
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So Michigan Republicans hate the idea of people checking the vote, and they're pushing a retroactive law which increases the costs of recounts under certain conditions, in what looks like an attempt to punish Jill Stein for trying to get one. [link]
Honestly, I figured the recounts were just an attempt by Stein to get some support, but the more I hear about Republicans trying to stop them the more I think there might be something to claims of fraud or whatever.
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Steve Bannon is not up for a cabinet-level position. Congress doesn't get a vote.
Oh. Wonderful.
Also who are the Backups if Congress says no?
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Let me be clear: I'm not happy that neo-Nazis are happy. But what I see here is an extremist group grasping at straws to legitimize itself. When you have to say you've got a "psychic connection" to your preferred president, and attribute your ideology to the greater public while admitting they "aren't willing to articulate it", you're not there yet. If Bernie Sanders had won and the Times found some hardcore Marxists to say, "Yes! This means the public is secretly yearning for the Communist Revolution, they're just not willing to articulate it", would you buy it? Because I wouldn't.
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EDIT: can someone get me context on this image? I grabbed it off twitter and idk how legit it is and if it's a quote from the meeting I posted a link about
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At first glance, the banner looks shopped to me, but does it really matter? Assuming "alt-right founder" refers to Richard Spencer, he's said enough other stuff to make it perfectly clear how he thinks. All it would mean is that whichever well-meaning idiot falsified the image is feeding the alt-right's narrative of unjust persecution. It continually amazes me how many people feel the need to lie even when the truth is on their side. Not helping.
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So the cabinet level positions need confirmation from the Senate - that's all the "secretary" positions, plus attorney general. A wide variety (like over a thousand) of lower-level positions in the various department also need approval, but those are usually pretty minor - they mostly only get held up as part of a larger strategy of obstruction (or if someone really controversial gets nominated).
If an appointment gets rejected (or just not voted on), the president can still make a recess appointment, if the Senate actually goes into recess. Republicans have been refusing to let the Senate go into recess for the last several years to effectively remove the power of the recess appointment - it's unclear if they will continue to do that with a Republican in the White House. Failing that, the position remains vacant until the president nominates someone else and the Senate approves them.
EDIT: The CNN crawl is real, it's in reference to Spencer saying, "One wonders if these people are people at all, or instead soulless golem." Although apparently the "people" he was referring to were the media.
Moving swiftly on, Trump has named more lobbyists to his team, and these two have been trying to break Net Neutrality for a while. Have fun with increased costs and worse Internet service, everybody.
UPDATE: The Republicans plan to strip NASA's Earth Science division because it's telling them things their buddies in industry don't like. [link]
Seriously, Politically Correct just means stuff right wingers don't like, doesn't it?
24/11/16 update
Today in "disturbing if true": Votes may have been manipulated during the most recent election. Specifically, there's a group of computer scientists saying Trump may have won some swing states via fraud, and they're calling for an investigation. I can't see this developing well no matter what happens, honestly. [link]
Important edit below:
However, FiveThirtyEight says the rumors of hacking are probably bull*****, and I expect they're correct. [link]
Art is life itself.
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Here's a link to a list of things you could consider doing if you want to help avoid the end of human civilization. [link] While you're at it, write to your government telling them to not be such chuckle****s. Maybe point out that China is going to eat the USA's lunch in terms of clean energy and increased efficiency if the US doesn't catch up, idk. I'm not your dad.
While I'm being depressing: Steve Bannon believes in the genetic superiority of certain ethnic groups (and maybe so does Trump), Bannon also wants only property owners to be allowed to vote. [link]
lmao wat
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Hey, look on the bright side: fewer carbon emissions.
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Because my mother is the kind of person who started volunteering at a refugee assistance center just to thumb her nose that the politicians talking about blocking Syrian refugees, and she owns 40 acres; I'm sure she would gift most of it in 1"-square blocks to various minority individuals if that meant giving them the right to vote again.
6.3M square inches in an acre, 39 acres (let's say she keeps the acre around the house itself)... 246,600,000 available "plots" of land to gift, and approximately 115,760,000 nonwhite American citizens.
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If trends towards disenfranchisement continue under the current guise of "ID Laws", it'd probably be her first priority to start shuttling people to the DMV and ready to help contribute to the pound of flesh and xanax that could be added to the
poll taxesprocess. In fact, she may want to get started now in case the process does start getting more strenuous in the future.candidus inperti; si nil, his utere mecum.
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I live in Ohio. Voting requires a form of identification (commonly drivers license or state ID, though utility bill and other things are accepted) Its never taken me more than 15 minutes to vote. Every adult should have BC, SS and valid ID. Figure out the system. Its damn hard to do anything at the BMV without these. At least two of them are no charge. God forbid you get a suspension for not having it - asking friends to drive you out of county to an office that can reinstate it is a huge hassle and can come with a lot of fines. Don't cry about the $25 or having to wait at the SS office with old people who occupy the sole teller for 3 hours. We all have to do it. Figure out the system. And while I'm on the soap box - pay the credit card balance off every month, keep at least 2 months pay in a savings account, don't buy ***** you can't afford, cigarettes (and weed) are bad for your lungs and a huge waste of money.
Amen.
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Voter ID addresses a nonproblem and in doing so disenfranchises people from their right to vote and disproportionately so towards democrats, minorities and poor people (all are correlated with each other). America needs more representation in it's voting system- not less. That's a bigger problem than the **** all voter impersonation that ever occurs.
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One of my roommates has Asperger's. He has a valid photo ID, and it still took him nearly half an hour to get cleared to actually cast his vote this past election. With zero line. (My roommates and I all did early voting on a Monday.)
If you think that voter ID laws do not significantly affect you and therefore anyone should be able to handle it, you're simply mistaken.
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What if I eat a hotdog off the flag? This is important I only have left-over plates from 4th of July!
Oh wait, I also use an incinerator for my trash! Am I supposed to bury my plates now?
First, the recounts.
Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party has garnered a new national spotlight by kicking off recounts in Wisconsin and Michigan, and although she's withdrawn her petition in Pennsylvania state court over a million dollar bond, she's trying to force a recount through federal court now.** Additionally, an advocacy group just filed a suit to try to force a hand-recount in Florida. The Democrat Party and Clinton campaign are for the most part steering clear of these recounts because of President Obama's call for smooth transition of power as well as Secretary Clinton jeering Trump for weeks to accept the outcome of the election regardless of the results biting her, although the Clinton campaign is tagging along for "fairness to all sides sake", whatever that means.
Why does this matter?
Not because of the likelihood it will change the results, but because it's visibly irritating Trump, which is having its own effects... that I feel are best described as unhinging. Donald Trump's complaint that three million people voted illegally originated directly from the Clinton campaign in essence legitimizing Dr. Stein's recount. He's also spending money to fight all the recounts Dr. Stein started, which considering he just lost stopping power two of the three and will have to keep fighting a third and soon a fourth will also likely stress Trump even more... and I'd like to point out Trump has a history of expressing frustration in blunt tweets.
**Okay, is it just me or are we all officially reliving 2000 now? Except only instead of Al Gore, Ralph Nader is leading the recount charge. In terms of roles, we have Trump=Bush, Clinton=Gore, Stein=Nader, and Bernie Sanders=Bill Bradley. I can't be the only one seeing this, right?
Second, the Hamilton Electors.
Remember those talks of faithless electors? Well, now they've dubbed themselves the Hamilton Electors, have legal representation and a private platform to strategize thanks to Law Professor Lawrence Lessig and his friends, and a Texas Republican elector has joined the effort. Also, it looks like the Hamilton Electors have reached a candidate to cast a ballot for instead of Trump or Clinton: Governor John Kasich.
Why does this matter?
Because it means this movement is organized and therefore a threat the Trump camp cannot ignore. I am not sure how Trump will react (or has reacted because I don't read his twitter feed first hand because I just don't want to), but I don't think it will be pretty. I speculate he's likely to see this as an attack on all sides and respond accordingly.
So... personally with all that's exploded over the past weekend, I would like to recommend for this forum that the Donald Trump transition become its own thread and that the post-election mess continue in this thread because I think there's officially enough to split the topics now.
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What I don't understand is why most of the Hamilton Electors are Democrats voting against Hillary. Surely it would be a better plan to try and persuade moderate and disgusted Republicans like the gentleman from Texas to vote for Kaisch whilst retaining your vote for Clinton. Atleast that would then drag Trump down below that magic 270 number he needs and it would be sent to the House of Representatives to decide.
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It's the price they are willing to pay to bring Republicans on board. Honestly even if Democrat electors all tow the line for Clinton anyway, it wouldn't matter because the magic number is 270. It doesn't matter how close Secretary Clinton gets (A 269 could be fun I suppose if there was only two people's name in the running) otherwise because there's nothing to gain from proportion unless it's a winning majority/plurality of the vote.
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This isn't happening.
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Honestly, I figured the recounts were just an attempt by Stein to get some support, but the more I hear about Republicans trying to stop them the more I think there might be something to claims of fraud or whatever.
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