I've spent a few years with my brother trying to come up with a food that doesn't go with either of these items. Every time we search one, we find a recipe that is decently mainstream that proves us wrong. Anyone have any opinions?
Sorry if this is the wrong place, I figured it could be a somewhat debate.
Okay so a lot of people seem to not really be getting what I'm proposing. The dish or raw food has to either have cheese as a part of it, not just hanging on the side, or peanuts in some way. Either cooked in, topped or whatever. Not both. Also, drinks do not count, gum and other things you chew but aren't meant to ingest do not count.
Please research before you post that a dish doesn't go with either, just because you don't think it would personally taste good doesn't mean that it will not and that it isn't an already prepared item in another region or country.
What do you mean "go with"? I mean, there are a lot of foods that traditionally contain no cheese or peanut butter/peanut derivatives. I'm sure you could add one or the other to a lot of those recipes and not have the result be offensively bad, but I'm not sure that's true in all cases. I don't feel the addition of cheese or peanut butter would improve every dish they're added to.
For raw ingredients, given there is such a huge variety of cheeses out there I'm sure every thing could be used with at least one of the cheeses in some way that elevates its above and beyond. For dishes though, I'm not convinced putting any form of cheese or peanut butter in a cup of coffee or tea would be all that appetizing.
What do you mean "go with"? I mean, there are a lot of foods that traditionally contain no cheese or peanut butter/peanut derivatives. I'm sure you could add one or the other to a lot of those recipes and not have the result be offensively bad, but I'm not sure that's true in all cases. I don't feel the addition of cheese or peanut butter would improve every dish they're added to.
I'm not saying they traditionally do, just that the addition of would not be a negative. I can be a raw ingredient or dish.
For raw ingredients, given there is such a huge variety of cheeses out there I'm sure every thing could be used with at least one of the cheeses in some way that elevates its above and beyond. For dishes though, I'm not convinced putting any form of cheese or peanut butter in a cup of coffee or tea would be all that appetizing.
The cheese or PB doesn't have to directly go into the dish, just pair well with it, which I'm sure there are cheeses that do just that. And to be clear I mean edibles, not drinks.
It would seem on it's face then that there is nothing to debate.
After all, if just accompanying the item in the same dish, or on the same dish counts - how could anything then be excluded?
I'm sure there's an argument based on the flavor profiles of dishes and that some profiles aren't complimented by cheeses or peanut butter, but I'm not well-versed in flavor profiles. I only know the basics, enough to help shape my restaurant's menus and follow along when watching Chopped.
Beyond that, a lot of Asian cuisine features little to no cheese and only select dishes with any peanut derivatives, so at the very least adding cheese or peanut butter to most of those dishes would be weird.
Asian was the direction I was about to go too, I could think of eel tempura, or squid dishes - but then I remembered peanut sauce in Thai cuisine, and fondu (cheeses) that sometimes goes well with various sushi.
So we would literally have to get so specific about what was put together on the plate that it's almost counterproductive.
I love Japanese food, and especially sushi, and even I can't think of one item I wouldn't try a peanut sauce or maybe a cheese dip on.
What about Indian food? There's gotta be a curry based dish that would be ruined by the addition of a cheese or peanut butter. Right?
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That's not fair. There's a lot of things that are not meant to be eaten as food but treated as such. For example, there are squirrels eating insulation in my attic right now. It was never meant to be treated as such, but the squirrels defined it as "food" and ingest it as such, and it doesn't kill them.
Creator intention versus consumer use is something you have to resolve regarding the definition of food before you can convince me the Gum should not be a valid answer.
P.S. If anyone knows effective ways to catch/kill squirrels that doesn't involve firing a gun in a residential neighborhood (or anything else I would have to explain to the police), please PM me. That squirrel problem is real.
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If it's not one or the other - scrambled or most other morning preparations of eggs and peanut derivatives seem like they'd never work. Cheese absolutely does if its meant as a "one item that doesn't work with either" thing though.
I believe this is because fats so with other fats, and proteins go with other proteins. Cheese is one of the most age old fats, and will go with many traditional and new meals that contain fats. Same with protein and peanuts.
Sorry if this is the wrong place, I figured it could be a somewhat debate.
Okay so a lot of people seem to not really be getting what I'm proposing. The dish or raw food has to either have cheese as a part of it, not just hanging on the side, or peanuts in some way. Either cooked in, topped or whatever. Not both. Also, drinks do not count, gum and other things you chew but aren't meant to ingest do not count.
Please research before you post that a dish doesn't go with either, just because you don't think it would personally taste good doesn't mean that it will not and that it isn't an already prepared item in another region or country.
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For raw ingredients, given there is such a huge variety of cheeses out there I'm sure every thing could be used with at least one of the cheeses in some way that elevates its above and beyond. For dishes though, I'm not convinced putting any form of cheese or peanut butter in a cup of coffee or tea would be all that appetizing.
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I'm not saying they traditionally do, just that the addition of would not be a negative. I can be a raw ingredient or dish.
The cheese or PB doesn't have to directly go into the dish, just pair well with it, which I'm sure there are cheeses that do just that. And to be clear I mean edibles, not drinks.
After all, if just accompanying the item in the same dish, or on the same dish counts - how could anything then be excluded?
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I'm sure there's an argument based on the flavor profiles of dishes and that some profiles aren't complimented by cheeses or peanut butter, but I'm not well-versed in flavor profiles. I only know the basics, enough to help shape my restaurant's menus and follow along when watching Chopped.
Beyond that, a lot of Asian cuisine features little to no cheese and only select dishes with any peanut derivatives, so at the very least adding cheese or peanut butter to most of those dishes would be weird.
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So we would literally have to get so specific about what was put together on the plate that it's almost counterproductive.
I love Japanese food, and especially sushi, and even I can't think of one item I wouldn't try a peanut sauce or maybe a cheese dip on.
What about Indian food? There's gotta be a curry based dish that would be ruined by the addition of a cheese or peanut butter. Right?
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This may be related to why a TON of my Asian friends are lactose intolerant...
Not a food as it is never meant to be ingested.
It is often served with bleu cheese.
Also for people mentioning sushi and such, quite a few roll styles use cream cheese.
Quite a lot of curry has peanuts in it
That's not fair. There's a lot of things that are not meant to be eaten as food but treated as such. For example, there are squirrels eating insulation in my attic right now. It was never meant to be treated as such, but the squirrels defined it as "food" and ingest it as such, and it doesn't kill them.
Creator intention versus consumer use is something you have to resolve regarding the definition of food before you can convince me the Gum should not be a valid answer.
P.S. If anyone knows effective ways to catch/kill squirrels that doesn't involve firing a gun in a residential neighborhood (or anything else I would have to explain to the police), please PM me. That squirrel problem is real.
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Emeril's recipe on the Foodnetwork:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/steak-tartare-recipe/index.html
Anthony Bourdain's Recipe on Foodnetwork Canada:
http://www.foodnetwork.ca/recipe/anthony-bourdains-steak-tartare/6143/
Jack O'Shea video on steak tartare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR7Y_EpwZu8
Masaharu Morimoto prepares steak tartare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1Pwx9_hT8
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Which is why this is so hard.
Honestly, I'm a fat man, if I can't figure out a way to put cheese on it, pretty sure I'll put peanut butter on it.
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I start off with Sushi, and I conclude with Philadelphia rolls.
I would think most dishes in Western cuisine that wouldn't pair well with cheese wouldn't go well with peanuts.
That being said, I'm allergic to peanuts, so anything that does not go with cheese qualifies for me.
Or Asians, for that matter. There's cheese ramen in Korea. Cheese. Ramen. *Shudder*
Fine, bubblegum-flavored ice cream.
Or Jolly Ranchers.
Cheese and Peanuts are fairly old
Honestly, mild soft cheeses will go with pretty much any sushi dish.