Please tell me what experience obama has? Palin has been in politics a lot longer than obama. obama has never held an executive position in his life. there is a huge difference between hiding in numbers in a congress than being the guy that says yes we are no we aren't. I have already listed her accomplishments so i am not going to do it again.
Are you serious? She was a mayor, then a governor.
Before Obama held any office, he worked in the halls of power for about 7 years. He worked with legislators, appearing before congressional panels, lobbying for such and such. He then was elected to the Illinois state senate, and then Senator for Illinois in 2004. That is political experience, like it or not, and a law degree is something that also is experience, which both Obama and Biden have, but McCain and Palin do not have.
the kid thing is a rumour with no supportive evidence either.
We will see how the media treats it. There are no stories or anything yet, but we know how politics works. I am just running ahead of the curve here, as others are. The narrative of the extremely pro-life woman hiding her daughter's bastard child is something the media will jump on if they can. I didn't open this thread because I expect that it might be opened. If there were a liberal cousin to FOX news at least... (7 Months Pregnant)
The other half of the scandal is that her daughter in question was sick at home (away from the public eye) with mono for several months concurrent to the tail end of the pregnancy.
I am hardly relying on this, I just am most amused by it.
But if you want some meat, here is some meat:
She supported the bridge to nowhere, and then...she decided to not support it anymore.
Ted Stevens supports her and approves of her.
Bigtime creationist, aforementioned lack of governmental experience and education, and massive lack of foreign policy experience.
(Alaska Business Monthly: We've lost a lot of Alaska's military members to the war in Iraq. How do you feel about sending more troops into battle, as President Bush is suggesting?
Palin: I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy. I am very, very proud of the troops we have in Alaska, those fighting overseas for our freedoms, and the families here who are making so many sacrifices.)
She has done no national level work and is only regarded within tight conservative circles.
Also, for additional hilarity, it appears she edited her own Wikipedia entry before the news about her getting the nod hit. ('thirty mostly favorable changes were made')
We will see how the media treats it. There are no stories or anything yet, but we know how politics works. I am just running ahead of the curve here, as others are. The narrative of the extremely pro-life woman hiding her daughter's bastard child is something the media will jump on if they can.
I hope to hell any credible media organization gives more scrutiny to their sources than you do.
No, because she wasn't under a microscope at the time as a VP pick. But she flew to Alaska to have her baby, and noone apparently sees this as a problem. Pictures from that time have her not showing at 7 months, and the pregnancy was a surprise to all.
That's your evidence? She went to a hospital to give birth to a baby. They would have medical records, they would have the staff that was on-hand, and things like this do not keep quiet. Wild accusations are not scandals, they're supermarket tabloid articles, if that.
If you're relying on a conspiracy theory to make Palin look bad, then perhaps McCain made a good choice after all.
Women like making less money then men? (She and McCain don't support equal pay for equal work)
Mmm. I definitely feel like I'm getting an unbiased account of the situation with a sentence like that. Sheesh.
Women like it when the government tells them what they can and can't do with their bodies? (She is pro-life, that isn't a way to get the Woman vote.)
Depends on which women. I immediately scoffed when I heard the "Palin will draw Hillary voters" theory. Registered democrats going for a woman on the other side? Just don't see that happening. But those moderate women who don't see 'pro-life' and knee-jerkedly think 'anti-women'? Those women who don't have parental permission laws in their top-five "things to squash" list? Yeah, I could see them staying home less and considering McCain more.
"There's no such thing as bad publicity." For McCain, who's got serious exposure issues compared to his opponent, it's almost true. He wanted to make a splash just as Obama is triumphantly riding the wave of the Democratic Convention, and he has done that.
That's the most foolish shortsighted thing I ever read. So McCain made the most important single decision a candidate gets to make before elected to take the news cycle back? And he did it when his convention was coming up in 2 days so he'd get the cycle back anyways?
There IS such a thing as bad publicity long term, absolutely. About a week after the convention EVERY Q&A session with McCain where he mentions the word experience will be followed by a Sarah Palin question.
I think the funniest thing so far is a lot of what I've heard isn't about how Biden is 'better' than Palin, but how Obama is better than Palin.
That shows how unsettled the democrats/liberals are if they've regulated to trying to show that their Presidential candidate is better than the republican's VP candidate!
McCain's announcement timing was genious. Obama got little to no bump in the polls when there's usually a nice one after the DNC. The DNC was all of last week and no one cares about it anymore.
Everyone is looking at McCain and Palin right now.
About a week after the convention EVERY Q&A session with McCain where he mentions the word experience will be followed by a Sarah Palin question.
Yet again though, the thing is that you can point fingers at the republican's VP candidate all you want, but they're the SAME accusations that can be made about the democrat's Prez candidate. Obviously any Q&A session featuring just McCain and Palin will bring up that question, but it really isn't going to be a problem.
There is not a single democrat/independent/undecided voter who can intelligently say 'I am unsure of voting for McCain because Palin is inexperienced'.
And really, I think people are generalizing this arguement too much. The other way to look at it is to whether or not they are READY for the position. Palin seems to be fully ready for the VP slot, and in an unfortunate circumstance the presidency.
In the end this arguement goes down to the simple bickering between Dems and Reps that we know and love.
This is interesting to me. The URL pretty much says what the article's about.
It goes back to what I said. No one from the Obama camp is, for a while anyway, going to publicly criticize Palin. They can't. If they attack her for her gender and experience, it will only make them weaker.
I think the funniest thing so far is a lot of what I've heard isn't about how Biden is 'better' than Palin, but how Obama is better than Palin.
It's because of McCain's age. If he dies in office or is unable to fulfill his duties, which is quite possible, then Palin becomes president. That makes her more of an issue than a VP normally would be.
And votes with George Bush 90 percent of the time.
I will say that I don't like this arguement directed at either candidate. I don't care how much McCain votes the party line or how much Obama votes the party line.
Politics is all about playing the game.
If you wanted to run for president on the back of a major party, you have to show you're on their side. The first thing to do here is to vote with them on a vast majority of topics, even if you disagree. It's that simple.
It's because of McCain's age. If he dies in office or is unable to fulfill his duties, which is quite possible, then Palin becomes president. That makes her more of an issue than a VP normally would be.
This John McCain.....not Dick Cheney. Yeah, he's old, but as far as we know he's in pretty good shape for his age. I know that it's easy to poke fun at him and all about it as I enjoy it too, but I don't think there's any real concern about him croaking in office. I'd be concerned about a 2nd term, though.
This John McCain.....not Dick Cheney. Yeah, he's old, but as far as we know he's in pretty good shape for his age. I know that it's easy to poke fun at him and all about it as I enjoy it too, but I don't think there's any real concern about him croaking in office. I'd be concerned about a 2nd term, though.
His age is a factor. Even he has admitted that. His recurring flubs have made it more of an issue, whether they're related to his age or not.
This is interesting to me. The URL pretty much says what the article's about.
It goes back to what I said. No one from the Obama camp is, for a while anyway, going to publicly criticize Palin. They can't. If they attack her for her gender and experience, it will only make them weaker.
While that is a small advantage that they now have with Palin, there's is the whole issue of her just not being a good candidate. The reason the Obama camp doesn't need to attack her is because the cable news is doing plenty of that. Every channel is a debate of her qualifications, and there's representatives on both sides saying it's a bad choice. Most of the arguement for her is along the lines of: "With the combined experience of Palin and McCain, it is more than Obama and Biden". That's about the best I've heard.
That's the most foolish shortsighted thing I ever read.
Really? I'm pretty sure I can top it. Oh, how about this: The Earth is flat, and NASA is part of a conspiracy to convince us otherwise. Or this: You don't know that shooting yourself in the head is going to kill you until you try.
Everyone is looking at McCain and Palin right now.
This is McCain's race to lose as far as I see it.
Two months is a long time, especially in American politics. He's got a short-term boost right now, but Palin is far from perfect, and the campaign has got its work cut out for it making this stick.
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I wonder if it occurs to anyone that she is far more likely than Biden to actually end up in the president's chair. After all, McCain is far more likely to drop dead in office (barring the worries about assassination for Obama), and I think it bears thought to consider Palin not just from the standpoint of shoring up McCain's campaign, but also how well she could perform the job of the President. Historically, it would be fascinating for her to be the first female president; since she's a)young, b) about as far outside the political establishment as you can get while still holding a major office, and c)Republican.
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what is funny to me is that the liberals not only on this board but other boards as well refuse to acknowledge the lack of experience that obama has, and he is running for president.
however they have no qualms about bashing a vp pick over the head for it; just on the basis she might become president.
logically that makes no sense at all.
You have one canadite that is running for president he has.
no foriegn relations experience just like the VP (hence the biden pick)
He has never run a business (she has)
He has never been an executive of any kind (she has)
mayor (6,000 or 100K doesn't matter you still have to be able to know what to do)
she has been head of the ethics commity
head of the energy department.
governor of a state and in those 2 terms made huge changes and cut millions in pork projects.
has obama done any of those things? no
he has been a senator, and a community organizer.
does she lack experience in area's yep she does. i don't think there is a person that doesn't lack experience in some area's for president or VP. however to sit there and say the guy running for president who has a thinner resume than she does in areas is above scrutiny and she isn't is a bit hypocritical. it also doesn't make for a good arguement.
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what is funny to me is that the liberals not only on this board but other boards as well refuse to acknowledge the lack of experience that obama has, and he is running for president.
however they have no qualms about bashing a vp pick over the head for it; just on the basis she might become president.
Nothing prepares you to be president of the United States. NOTHING. That is why the experience argument is dumb.
We 'liberals' are not bashing PALIN but MCCAIN. His sole argument was that Obama was not qualified enough to be president and now he says that Palin (whether you want to say she's slightly more or slightly less experienced than Obama, whatever, still LOW experience) is the person he wants to be president should anything happen to him? He's sinking his only argument in a desperate roll of the dice, THAT is why it is a foolish selection.
Yet again though, the thing is that you can point fingers at the republican's VP candidate all you want, but they're the SAME accusations that can be made about the democrat's Prez candidate. Obviously any Q&A session featuring just McCain and Palin will bring up that question, but it really isn't going to be a problem.
There is not a single democrat/independent/undecided voter who can intelligently say 'I am unsure of voting for McCain because Palin is inexperienced'.
Again, no one is saying that. They are saying McCain just undercut his own argument against Obama in exchange for putting Sarah Palin on the ticket, not really a fair trade.
And really, I think people are generalizing this arguement too much. The other way to look at it is to whether or not they are READY for the position. Palin seems to be fully ready for the VP slot, and in an unfortunate circumstance the presidency.
You are wrong. She is a part of one term governor of an incredibly small state with no exposure let alone experience with many national issues.
This is McCain's race to lose as far as I see it.
Again, you are wrong. He has been behind in essentially every national poll for months and has been trailing Obama electorally since Obama got the nomination:
That map, right now, presents a pretty accurate picture for how the map will look November 4th. You probably give McCain Virginia, and then maybe Obama flips one more state (Ohio would be a coup, or maybe Montana or something) but that's about right.
My counter... Polls? Polls? They mean absolutely nothing. The only numbers that matter is the results on election night... and the final electoral count. Until then, numbers are useless.
Executive experience does prepare you for being President, no matter what you try to say. Governors have to sign off on laws just like the president does. They also have the right to veto laws. They also are used to working with the legislative branch as well to get their programs and laws passed/introduced into Congress.
Governors also have to be able to communicate with other leaders in other states, countries (occasionally) and the president sometimes as well.
While being a governor isn't exactly like being a president, it is rather similar.
Nothing prepares you to be president of the United States. NOTHING. That is why the experience argument is dumb.
We 'liberals' are not bashing PALIN but MCCAIN. His sole argument was that Obama was not qualified enough to be president and now he says that Palin (whether you want to say she's slightly more or slightly less experienced than Obama, whatever, still LOW experience) is the person he wants to be president should anything happen to him? He's sinking his only argument in a desperate roll of the dice, THAT is why it is a foolish selection.
If the experience argument is dumb, then why does Palin's contradiction of McCain's pointless argument mean anything at all? What's the big deal if McCain is hypocritical of a meaningless argument?
For one thing, Alaska shares political sentiments and a number of interests with the mountain states in the Lower 48, and so works with them a lot despite not being contiguous.
For another, the fact that it's not contiguous means it has to talk to other countries more. Its only geographic neighbor is Canada, after all.
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If the experience argument is dumb, then why does Palin's contradiction of McCain's pointless argument mean anything at all? What's the big deal if McCain is hypocritical of a meaningless argument?
Because it's his argument. His ONLY argument. I personally find it stupid, but obviously a combination of his party affiliation and that argument have swayed millions of people to support him. He has now said "Haha, just kidding, a 40-something one-termer is totally experienced enough to be president."
At best (for McCain) it smacks of cheap politics, both going against his own earlier arguments and as a cheap play for Hillary voters. At worst it makes people reconsider voting for Obama, if they really were turned off by McCain convincing them he was inexperienced.
My counter... Polls? Polls? They mean absolutely nothing. The only numbers that matter is the results on election night... and the final electoral count. Until then, numbers are useless.
Executive experience does prepare you for being President, no matter what you try to say. Governors have to sign off on laws just like the president does. They also have the right to veto laws. They also are used to working with the legislative branch as well to get their programs and laws passed/introduced into Congress.
If that is the experience necessary to be president than anyone who has taken a 6th grade social studies class is experienced enough to be president.
Governors also have to be able to communicate with other leaders in other states, countries (occasionally) and the president sometimes as well.
I don't much like Jodi Rell, but communicating with her about some random policy paper they plan on putting out together or whatever is not the same as talking to Kim Jong Il or even Vladimir Putin. It just isn't.
McCain knows he's loosing. He's fought a good fight and he's hurt Obama on the issues of the economy and the war, by being strong on Iran and making Obama look out of touch. However, he knows it isn't enough...and here's how I know he knows that:
He picked Palin. If he was winning, he never would have done something that risky. Now, he's done something quintessentially McCain - he's taken a massive gamble. Either Palin is a huge boost to his campaign...or he loses. But since he's already losing, losing more is irrelevant.
Picking Palin was a gutsy choice, but could easily backfire. In short.
Furthermore, Palin won't get Hillary voters on the McCain bandwagon, because she's prolife and anti Pay Equality. So if that was the reason to pick her, it was retarded.
This is still 2008 prez election, but not about Palin (more out of Ultimate Danny calling making a risky pick "quintessentially McCain"). 2008 McCain is not 2000 McCain. He is no longer Mr. Maverick. He is Mr. Vote the Party line 95 and 90% of the time. Mr. Go against his own policies he wrote as a legislator in campaigning to get his party's support. It really bothers me at times that a man who has become so amazingly partisan still gets credit for being an out there maverick (I know he cultivates it, but still).
This is still 2008 prez election, but not about Palin (more out of Ultimate Danny calling making a risky pick "quintessentially McCain"). 2008 McCain is not 2000 McCain. He is no longer Mr. Maverick. He is Mr. Vote the Party line 95 and 90% of the time. Mr. Go against his own policies he wrote as a legislator in campaigning to get his party's support. It really bothers me at times that a man who has become so amazingly partisan still gets credit for being an out there maverick (I know he cultivates it, but still).
Do you honestly believe that he is voting with the party line because he actually wants to do so? No...it's because he wants to be president. Hopefully if he does become the president, he'll go back to his old self.
Do you honestly believe that he is voting with the party line because he actually wants to do so? No...it's because he wants to be president. Hopefully if he does become the president, he'll go back to his old self.
Are you serious? She was a mayor, then a governor.
Before Obama held any office, he worked in the halls of power for about 7 years. He worked with legislators, appearing before congressional panels, lobbying for such and such. He then was elected to the Illinois state senate, and then Senator for Illinois in 2004. That is political experience, like it or not, and a law degree is something that also is experience, which both Obama and Biden have, but McCain and Palin do not have.
We will see how the media treats it. There are no stories or anything yet, but we know how politics works. I am just running ahead of the curve here, as others are. The narrative of the extremely pro-life woman hiding her daughter's bastard child is something the media will jump on if they can. I didn't open this thread because I expect that it might be opened. If there were a liberal cousin to FOX news at least... (7 Months Pregnant)
The other half of the scandal is that her daughter in question was sick at home (away from the public eye) with mono for several months concurrent to the tail end of the pregnancy.
I am hardly relying on this, I just am most amused by it.
But if you want some meat, here is some meat:
She supported the bridge to nowhere, and then...she decided to not support it anymore.
Ted Stevens supports her and approves of her.
Bigtime creationist, aforementioned lack of governmental experience and education, and massive lack of foreign policy experience.
(Alaska Business Monthly: We've lost a lot of Alaska's military members to the war in Iraq. How do you feel about sending more troops into battle, as President Bush is suggesting?
Palin: I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy. I am very, very proud of the troops we have in Alaska, those fighting overseas for our freedoms, and the families here who are making so many sacrifices.)
She has done no national level work and is only regarded within tight conservative circles.
Also, for additional hilarity, it appears she edited her own Wikipedia entry before the news about her getting the nod hit. ('thirty mostly favorable changes were made')
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I hope to hell any credible media organization gives more scrutiny to their sources than you do.
This is what you posted earlier:
That's your evidence? She went to a hospital to give birth to a baby. They would have medical records, they would have the staff that was on-hand, and things like this do not keep quiet. Wild accusations are not scandals, they're supermarket tabloid articles, if that.
If you're relying on a conspiracy theory to make Palin look bad, then perhaps McCain made a good choice after all.
Mmm. I definitely feel like I'm getting an unbiased account of the situation with a sentence like that. Sheesh.
Depends on which women. I immediately scoffed when I heard the "Palin will draw Hillary voters" theory. Registered democrats going for a woman on the other side? Just don't see that happening. But those moderate women who don't see 'pro-life' and knee-jerkedly think 'anti-women'? Those women who don't have parental permission laws in their top-five "things to squash" list? Yeah, I could see them staying home less and considering McCain more.
That's the most foolish shortsighted thing I ever read. So McCain made the most important single decision a candidate gets to make before elected to take the news cycle back? And he did it when his convention was coming up in 2 days so he'd get the cycle back anyways?
There IS such a thing as bad publicity long term, absolutely. About a week after the convention EVERY Q&A session with McCain where he mentions the word experience will be followed by a Sarah Palin question.
That shows how unsettled the democrats/liberals are if they've regulated to trying to show that their Presidential candidate is better than the republican's VP candidate!
McCain's announcement timing was genious. Obama got little to no bump in the polls when there's usually a nice one after the DNC. The DNC was all of last week and no one cares about it anymore.
Everyone is looking at McCain and Palin right now.
This is McCain's race to lose as far as I see it.
Yet again though, the thing is that you can point fingers at the republican's VP candidate all you want, but they're the SAME accusations that can be made about the democrat's Prez candidate. Obviously any Q&A session featuring just McCain and Palin will bring up that question, but it really isn't going to be a problem.
There is not a single democrat/independent/undecided voter who can intelligently say 'I am unsure of voting for McCain because Palin is inexperienced'.
And really, I think people are generalizing this arguement too much. The other way to look at it is to whether or not they are READY for the position. Palin seems to be fully ready for the VP slot, and in an unfortunate circumstance the presidency.
In the end this arguement goes down to the simple bickering between Dems and Reps that we know and love.
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I'm inclined to agree.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/30/first-obama-ad-on-palin-avoids-mentioning-her-at-all/
This is interesting to me. The URL pretty much says what the article's about.
It goes back to what I said. No one from the Obama camp is, for a while anyway, going to publicly criticize Palin. They can't. If they attack her for her gender and experience, it will only make them weaker.
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I will say that I don't like this arguement directed at either candidate. I don't care how much McCain votes the party line or how much Obama votes the party line.
Politics is all about playing the game.
If you wanted to run for president on the back of a major party, you have to show you're on their side. The first thing to do here is to vote with them on a vast majority of topics, even if you disagree. It's that simple.
This John McCain.....not Dick Cheney. Yeah, he's old, but as far as we know he's in pretty good shape for his age. I know that it's easy to poke fun at him and all about it as I enjoy it too, but I don't think there's any real concern about him croaking in office. I'd be concerned about a 2nd term, though.
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While that is a small advantage that they now have with Palin, there's is the whole issue of her just not being a good candidate. The reason the Obama camp doesn't need to attack her is because the cable news is doing plenty of that. Every channel is a debate of her qualifications, and there's representatives on both sides saying it's a bad choice. Most of the arguement for her is along the lines of: "With the combined experience of Palin and McCain, it is more than Obama and Biden". That's about the best I've heard.
Really? I'm pretty sure I can top it. Oh, how about this: The Earth is flat, and NASA is part of a conspiracy to convince us otherwise. Or this: You don't know that shooting yourself in the head is going to kill you until you try.
Two months is a long time, especially in American politics. He's got a short-term boost right now, but Palin is far from perfect, and the campaign has got its work cut out for it making this stick.
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however they have no qualms about bashing a vp pick over the head for it; just on the basis she might become president.
logically that makes no sense at all.
You have one canadite that is running for president he has.
no foriegn relations experience just like the VP (hence the biden pick)
He has never run a business (she has)
He has never been an executive of any kind (she has)
mayor (6,000 or 100K doesn't matter you still have to be able to know what to do)
she has been head of the ethics commity
head of the energy department.
governor of a state and in those 2 terms made huge changes and cut millions in pork projects.
has obama done any of those things? no
he has been a senator, and a community organizer.
does she lack experience in area's yep she does. i don't think there is a person that doesn't lack experience in some area's for president or VP. however to sit there and say the guy running for president who has a thinner resume than she does in areas is above scrutiny and she isn't is a bit hypocritical. it also doesn't make for a good arguement.
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Nothing prepares you to be president of the United States. NOTHING. That is why the experience argument is dumb.
We 'liberals' are not bashing PALIN but MCCAIN. His sole argument was that Obama was not qualified enough to be president and now he says that Palin (whether you want to say she's slightly more or slightly less experienced than Obama, whatever, still LOW experience) is the person he wants to be president should anything happen to him? He's sinking his only argument in a desperate roll of the dice, THAT is why it is a foolish selection.
Again, no one is saying that. They are saying McCain just undercut his own argument against Obama in exchange for putting Sarah Palin on the ticket, not really a fair trade.
You are wrong. She is a part of one term governor of an incredibly small state with no exposure let alone experience with many national issues.
Again, you are wrong. He has been behind in essentially every national poll for months and has been trailing Obama electorally since Obama got the nomination:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
That map, right now, presents a pretty accurate picture for how the map will look November 4th. You probably give McCain Virginia, and then maybe Obama flips one more state (Ohio would be a coup, or maybe Montana or something) but that's about right.
Executive experience does prepare you for being President, no matter what you try to say. Governors have to sign off on laws just like the president does. They also have the right to veto laws. They also are used to working with the legislative branch as well to get their programs and laws passed/introduced into Congress.
Governors also have to be able to communicate with other leaders in other states, countries (occasionally) and the president sometimes as well.
While being a governor isn't exactly like being a president, it is rather similar.
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For one thing, Alaska shares political sentiments and a number of interests with the mountain states in the Lower 48, and so works with them a lot despite not being contiguous.
For another, the fact that it's not contiguous means it has to talk to other countries more. Its only geographic neighbor is Canada, after all.
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Because it's his argument. His ONLY argument. I personally find it stupid, but obviously a combination of his party affiliation and that argument have swayed millions of people to support him. He has now said "Haha, just kidding, a 40-something one-termer is totally experienced enough to be president."
At best (for McCain) it smacks of cheap politics, both going against his own earlier arguments and as a cheap play for Hillary voters. At worst it makes people reconsider voting for Obama, if they really were turned off by McCain convincing them he was inexperienced.
If that is the experience necessary to be president than anyone who has taken a 6th grade social studies class is experienced enough to be president.
I don't much like Jodi Rell, but communicating with her about some random policy paper they plan on putting out together or whatever is not the same as talking to Kim Jong Il or even Vladimir Putin. It just isn't.
McCain knows he's loosing. He's fought a good fight and he's hurt Obama on the issues of the economy and the war, by being strong on Iran and making Obama look out of touch. However, he knows it isn't enough...and here's how I know he knows that:
He picked Palin. If he was winning, he never would have done something that risky. Now, he's done something quintessentially McCain - he's taken a massive gamble. Either Palin is a huge boost to his campaign...or he loses. But since he's already losing, losing more is irrelevant.
Picking Palin was a gutsy choice, but could easily backfire. In short.
Furthermore, Palin won't get Hillary voters on the McCain bandwagon, because she's prolife and anti Pay Equality. So if that was the reason to pick her, it was retarded.
Do you honestly believe that he is voting with the party line because he actually wants to do so? No...it's because he wants to be president. Hopefully if he does become the president, he'll go back to his old self.
Hope isn't something you should hinge a ... wait.
Thanks to the [Æther] shop for the sig!
lolz. Anyways, I'm not saying that's enough to make me vote for him...he's betrayed me a few too many times :(.