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Shouldn't that be "Unless your opponent is Mark Gottleib, they don't control SBEs"?
Man, I can't believe I'm nitpicking your joke. Anyways, great article.
Well, the statement in the article is just a generality so it applies your opponent as well.
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I couldn't figure out what this part was saying. Who are the "they"?
Q: My Mutavault gets Shocked while I have Sacred Ground in play. Does it come back? A: Sacred Ground looks for spells or abilities putting lands into the yard. What’s killing a land creature with lethal damage? State-based effects! Unless you are Mark Gottlieb, you don’t control state-based effects, so Sacred Ground won’t care.
This answer is very unclear... is the answer yes or no? I very often notice a lot of the authors choose to write their answers to questions in this column in a vague manner like this. Authors, feel free to add your witty banter, but please include a straight answer as well!
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This answer is very unclear... is the answer yes or no?
Sacred Ground's ability doesn't trigger if Mutavault is destroyed by lethal damage. This is because state-based effects cause Mutavault to be destroyed, not a spell or ability controlled by your opponent.
Q: My Mutavault gets Shocked while I have Sacred Ground in play. Does it come back? A: Sacred Ground looks for spells or abilities putting lands into the yard. What’s killing a land creature with lethal damage? State-based effects! Unless you are Mark Gottlieb, you don’t control state-based effects, so Sacred Ground won’t care.
This answer is very unclear... is the answer yes or no? I very often notice a lot of the authors choose to write their answers to questions in this column in a vague manner like this. Authors, feel free to add your witty banter, but please include a straight answer as well!
What part of "so Sacred Ground won't care" is unclear? ;/
schrecklich: I presume "they" is referring to "the normal CI writers." I'd ask the monkey, but he's on a day trip to the morgue.
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To me, it's just not a direct answer. A lot of the answers in this column are worded in a vague way like that. Maybe Sacred Ground doesn't care that it's a creature because it's still a land. I don't know. Hence the confusion.
I'm humbly requesting to all the authors of the column to please give a *direct* answer to a question, either before or after the banter.
Don't get me wrong, I read the column every week, but I would think that feedback is encouraged so that the column will be the best it can be.
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Q: What happens if I put Pendrell Flux on a face-down creature?
A: The face-down creature cries. And cries and cries. And cries some more, because I’m laughing in sadistic glee at its horrible fate. You see, it has no mana cost, so “pay its mana cost” is an impossible action. It’s going to be sacrificed like your morals on a date with a supermodel.
Okay, bear with me here. First you put an Alpha or Beta Cyclopean Tomb into play using something like Master Transmuter. Then you need a universal toughness-increaser like Glorious Anthem or Spidersilk Armor. Then you animate the Tomb with something like March of the Machines or Karn's Touch. Then you remove the Tomb from the game using Food Chain, adding {} (and one other mana) to your mana pool. Then use the {} to pay the Pendrell Flux.
My opponent Terrors my creature. I use Hindering Light on his Terror. In response, he plays another Terror on the same creature. Do I still get my card from my pretty pointless Hindering Light?
Correct me if I'm wrong here, which I may be, but spells check for legal targets twice, once when the spell is put on the stack, and once upon resolution. Since Hindering Light resolves before Terror, you would still draw your card, since Terror will be countered by Hindering Light instead of upon resolution due to having no target.
My opponent Terrors my creature. I use Hindering Light on his Terror. In response, he plays another Terror on the same creature. Do I still get my card from my pretty pointless Hindering Light?
Correct me if I'm wrong here, which I may be, but spells check for legal targets twice, once when the spell is put on the stack, and once upon resolution. Since Hindering Light resolves before Terror, you would still draw your card, since Terror will be countered by Hindering Light instead of upon resolution due to having no target.
No, Hindering Light will not counter the Terror. Hindering Light will itself be countered as its target, "target spell that targets you or a permanent you control," is no longer legal. The first Terror is no longer targeting a permanent you control.
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Q: Our Nationals tournament is the weekend of M10's release – which will be legal for it, M10 or 10E?
A: New sets are legal as of the date of release. Barring some explicit announcement from the DCI, M10 will be legal for the Nationals grinders, as well as for the main event, and 10E will not be legal.
Note that this only applies to Nationals from the 17th of July on. Before that, it’s not released so you’ll use 10E.
Unless this has changed, wasn't it explicitly stated that 10E wouldn't rotate until October this year? I thought they changed the rotation schedule with all the core set changes.
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Unless this has changed, wasn't it explicitly stated that 10E wouldn't rotate until October this year? I thought they changed the rotation schedule with all the core set changes.
That change wont be effective until next year. From the article announcing Magic 2010:
To accommodate this much more rapid core set turnover, we are changing our format rotation policy beginning in the summer of 2010 with the release of the Magic 2011 core set. Magic 2011 will not knock Magic 2010 out of Standard; instead there will be only one rotation date per year, when the large Fall set is released. When the set codenamed "Lights" is released late in 2010, it will knock the Shards of Alara block and Magic 2010 out of Standard at the same time. Core sets will rotate as if they were part of the block preceding them. For approximately three months per year starting in 2010, there will be two core sets legal at a time, which is also a first.
Note that when Magic 2010 is released this summer, Tenth Edition will rotate out as per our normal existing policy.
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In Forsythe's original article announcing M10 and what it meant for the future of the core set, he said that standard will rotate once each year, when the new stand-alone expansion is releases; as such, there would be two core sets legal for use for a period of about 3 months.
Q:Humility is in play, and I play Vigean Hydropon. How big is it? What if Vigean Hydropon is in play and I play Humility afterwards? What if I Snakeform Vigean Hydropon?
A: None of your exotic, nightmare-inducing situations matter: effects that set power and toughness do so in layer 6b, and counters apply in layer 6c. With the layer setup, the order these effects were created in don’t matter. C always comes after B, and your hat rack will always be 6/6.
I think the crux of the question was whether Humility prevents the "as ~ comes into play" ability of the Hydropon, and that wasn't explicitly answered. I would think that "it is not a creature until it HAS come into play" would be correct, so Humility would likewise not prevent devouring.
It's also a point that Humility would prevent the Hydropon from being able to move its counters to your other critters, which is sad, 'cause that's kinda the whole point of it. But, then again, it can attack and block now, so n/m. GO HYDROPON!
Well, you can. They are both tokens and Caribou. I hope you have a good reason to do that and it’s not just for the luls.
to defend my question, it came up in an EDH game. i put the Footsteps on my opponent's Colossus and i happened to have a Caribou Range in play. he played Wrath and i wanted to know if i could sacrifice the tokens to the Range.
should be etherium. otherwise, good article!
Shouldn't that be "Unless your opponent is Mark Gottleib, they don't control SBEs"?
Man, I can't believe I'm nitpicking your joke. Anyways, great article.
Well, the statement in the article is just a generality so it applies your opponent as well.
I couldn't figure out what this part was saying. Who are the "they"?
A: Sacred Ground looks for spells or abilities putting lands into the yard. What’s killing a land creature with lethal damage? State-based effects! Unless you are Mark Gottlieb, you don’t control state-based effects, so Sacred Ground won’t care.
This answer is very unclear... is the answer yes or no? I very often notice a lot of the authors choose to write their answers to questions in this column in a vague manner like this. Authors, feel free to add your witty banter, but please include a straight answer as well!
I also include discussions about cards we took out, cards we banned, and cards we might add.
Sacred Ground's ability doesn't trigger if Mutavault is destroyed by lethal damage. This is because state-based effects cause Mutavault to be destroyed, not a spell or ability controlled by your opponent.
What part of "so Sacred Ground won't care" is unclear? ;/
schrecklich: I presume "they" is referring to "the normal CI writers." I'd ask the monkey, but he's on a day trip to the morgue.
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justice must always be served and corruption must always be opposed."
Go read! I am one of the three authors of Cranial Insertion.
But seriously, if you can't remember "Woapalanne", just call me Eli.
I'm humbly requesting to all the authors of the column to please give a *direct* answer to a question, either before or after the banter.
Don't get me wrong, I read the column every week, but I would think that feedback is encouraged so that the column will be the best it can be.
I also include discussions about cards we took out, cards we banned, and cards we might add.
Okay, bear with me here. First you put an Alpha or Beta Cyclopean Tomb into play using something like Master Transmuter. Then you need a universal toughness-increaser like Glorious Anthem or Spidersilk Armor. Then you animate the Tomb with something like March of the Machines or Karn's Touch. Then you remove the Tomb from the game using Food Chain, adding {} (and one other mana) to your mana pool. Then use the {} to pay the Pendrell Flux.
(yes I know it doesn't work like that)
Correct me if I'm wrong here, which I may be, but spells check for legal targets twice, once when the spell is put on the stack, and once upon resolution. Since Hindering Light resolves before Terror, you would still draw your card, since Terror will be countered by Hindering Light instead of upon resolution due to having no target.
No, Hindering Light will not counter the Terror. Hindering Light will itself be countered as its target, "target spell that targets you or a permanent you control," is no longer legal. The first Terror is no longer targeting a permanent you control.
Unless this has changed, wasn't it explicitly stated that 10E wouldn't rotate until October this year? I thought they changed the rotation schedule with all the core set changes.
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10th Edition leaves Standard July 17. I am not aware of any official statement to the contrary.
That change wont be effective until next year. From the article announcing Magic 2010:
To accommodate this much more rapid core set turnover, we are changing our format rotation policy beginning in the summer of 2010 with the release of the Magic 2011 core set. Magic 2011 will not knock Magic 2010 out of Standard; instead there will be only one rotation date per year, when the large Fall set is released. When the set codenamed "Lights" is released late in 2010, it will knock the Shards of Alara block and Magic 2010 out of Standard at the same time. Core sets will rotate as if they were part of the block preceding them. For approximately three months per year starting in 2010, there will be two core sets legal at a time, which is also a first.
Note that when Magic 2010 is released this summer, Tenth Edition will rotate out as per our normal existing policy.
I think the crux of the question was whether Humility prevents the "as ~ comes into play" ability of the Hydropon, and that wasn't explicitly answered. I would think that "it is not a creature until it HAS come into play" would be correct, so Humility would likewise not prevent devouring.
It's also a point that Humility would prevent the Hydropon from being able to move its counters to your other critters, which is sad, 'cause that's kinda the whole point of it. But, then again, it can attack and block now, so n/m. GO HYDROPON!
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to defend my question, it came up in an EDH game. i put the Footsteps on my opponent's Colossus and i happened to have a Caribou Range in play. he played Wrath and i wanted to know if i could sacrifice the tokens to the Range.
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