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First post for both of your articles makes me giggle a little. <.<
I missed these kinds of articles (and missed two questions! ).
Also, huge props for the RHPS reference and did I smell a 4chan reference too?
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I actually remember reading that Weight of Conscience removed the creature that was enchanted when the ability was played... but I can't guarantee that whoever said that was right, so I guess that's wrong.
I actually remember reading that Weight of Conscience removed the creature that was enchanted when the ability was played... but I can't guarantee that whoever said that was right, so I guess that's wrong.
yeah, i thought i read that somewhere too. i'll have to track it down to make sure their not credable.
Also, nice article, but be sure to double check your card tags. It's hard to get questions right when you can't see the cards being talked about.
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i got the weight of conscience one wrong, too. I thought that targets were checked twice: on announcing, and on resolution. The way the answer is worded, it seems like it is only checked on resolution. I do like these quiz articles. It's like taking the dci practice test, only quicker. I got 4 wrong here, I usually do okay on the practice test. Does anyone else take dci practice tests in their spare time, or is that just me?
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Also, nice article, but be sure to double check your card tags. It's hard to get questions right when you can't see the cards being talked about.
Yeah, I was scrambling madly to format this before it went up. Sorry about that. Something about a busy week, mediocre time management skills, and a gaming con. That and the fact that I so often forget that formatting takes time and leave it for the last minute. Bad Urchin.
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Yeah, I was scrambling madly to format this before it went up. Sorry about that. Something about a busy week, mediocre time management skills, and a gaming con. That and the fact that I so often forget that formatting takes time and leave it for the last minute. Bad Urchin.
only apply to raids.
regardless, this thread makes me sad when people don't realize that site is dead. it has been dead since fox news and bill oreilly gave it public light and it was flooded with the cancer.
how many people there now can tell you what 1million get was? or who nevada-tan was?
i digress so bad.
i enjoyed the article, and the quiz style is always interesting to read
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I reguards to the whole weight of weight of conscience thing, how would it work if you activated the ability and then returned the weight to your hand via some crazy blue magic?
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I actually remember reading that Weight of Conscience removed the creature that was enchanted when the ability was played... but I can't guarantee that whoever said that was right, so I guess that's wrong.
You're probably remembering a related but different question where Weight of Conscience is removed from play after its ability is activated but before it resolves (Disenchanted, Boomeranged, etc.). When the ability resolves, since Weight is not enchanting a creature at all, it will use last known information and remove the previously enchanted creature from the game.
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edit: and hopefully that answers your post too, wcsae
I could tell you both, but this isn't the place for it.
I only missed one question which is really good for me, although I liked the second question's answers. Is it official that Jon Finkel is the new Chuck Norris?
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I reguards to the whole weight of weight of conscience thing, how would it work if you activated the ability and then returned the weight to your hand via some crazy blue magic?
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That's where you check for last known information.
EDIT: btw, good article. It was short, but the quality was there. I didn't get any wrong exept the puzzlebox question. I figured the inter action isn't that bas when you've got no library and no hand, but after consiteration I saw that you'd alread won that game.
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Actually, Beloved Chaplain an be enchanted by a Licid. If the Licid is already enchanting some other creature you can play Aura Graft or whatever to switch it over to the Chaplain. That should've been option F. Hoo har!
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Also, nice article, but be sure to double check your card tags. It's hard to get questions right when you can't see the cards being talked about.
Articles use magiccards.info for card tags, regardless of your forum preference (mine is set to Gatherer). Especially for newer cards, that's a lot of the problem, since magiccards.info doesn't update as quickly. I clicked on a couple of links that didn't work; FWIW, both had apostrophes in their names.
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Do you ever track the results on these to see how many the average person gets right?
No, mainly because it's hard to define "the average person." Among players who are not judges, there are many levels of rules competence. If each person wants to track how well they do when we bust these quiz articles out, that's probably a useful exercise.
A. No. You have to declare targets for a licid’s ability while it is still a creature, and the Chaplain is protected.
B. Yes, but it will fall off the Beloved Chaplain as a state-based effect because it is still a creature while being an Aura.
C. Yes. You carry out the instructions on the card in the order they are printed, so when you get to attach the licid to target creature, it is no longer a creature and can target the Chaplain.
D. Yes. Auras only target when they are on the stack, and this aura doesn’t go on the stack.
E. If the licid can proselytize well, yes.
The correct(est) answer for this question is actually E. The Chaplain can indeed be enchanted by a licid, it just can't be the target of the licid's ability. So if you make it an enchantment on another creature, then graft it over, it's fine.
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Q9: I play Sudden Spoiling targeting my opponent. Can he morph his Willbender in response and redirect the Sudden Spoiling.
This question is... pseudo-wrong, I'd say. It's not that morph is a static ability that allows you to do it, it's because it is paying a cost to end an effect, which is defined as a special action under the rules. You can't really pay for static effects.
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I wouldn't say Teferi's Puzzle Box is a poor interaction with Shared Fate. If you are *actually* playing Shared Fate in the first place, you probably don't want the opponent to be drawing heat or artifact/enchantment removal from your deck, so you won't be playing those kinds of cards. What you will want to do is get rid of whatever hand they do have, give them a hand of irrelevance (at least to removing Shared Fate), or if you don't have the Shared Fate yet, you want to dig for it. Puzzle Box does everything, and the turn after it resolves with Shared Fate in play you have a decent digging into your opponent's deck. ;P
I wouldn't say Teferi's Puzzle Box is a poor interaction with Shared Fate. If you are *actually* playing Shared Fate in the first place, you probably don't want the opponent to be drawing heat or artifact/enchantment removal from your deck, so you won't be playing those kinds of cards. What you will want to do is get rid of whatever hand they do have, give them a hand of irrelevance (at least to removing Shared Fate), or if you don't have the Shared Fate yet, you want to dig for it. Puzzle Box does everything, and the turn after it resolves with Shared Fate in play you have a decent digging into your opponent's deck. ;P
Well perhaps. I think the writer was more thinking of the fact that teferi's puzzle box only really works once, since the cards from shared fate are never ACTUALLY in your hand, and thus aren't affected by the box.
So the first time you box after shared fate you put your hand on the bottom, rfg cards from his library...and everytime after, the box does nothing.
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w00t i got every question right except the ninjitsu one. all the ones except for the ninjitsu question only takes barely any prior knowledge and logic to answer correctly imo.
Actually, Beloved Chaplain an be enchanted by a Licid. If the Licid is already enchanting some other creature you can play Aura Graft or whatever to switch it over to the Chaplain. That should've been option F. Hoo har!
I got 10/11 because I chose option F. Maybe I should ask the teacher to remark my quiz.
Well perhaps. I think the writer was more thinking of the fact that teferi's puzzle box only really works once, since the cards from shared fate are never ACTUALLY in your hand, and thus aren't affected by the box.
So the first time you box after shared fate you put your hand on the bottom, rfg cards from his library...and everytime after, the box does nothing.
Except that it does something. I got bored of affinity, and played around with just this combo, during ons/mir standard. The puzzle box, when shared fate was in play, kept the very popular eternal dragon from ever being able to return to play--it would plainscycle, but could never be cast. I'm sure you can see how that would be useful, especially in a game in which no one could ever deck while shared fate was in play. It would also help if an opponent was able to somehow get a card into their hand at upkeep, or on your turn; the box would send it to the bottom, to be replaced by shared fate. Finally, box would strip their hand of any 'answers' to shared fate--threats, ways to neuter their own deck, etc. Of course, disenchants and bounce still needed to be countered, but using the box to dig for fate made it less likely they'd be able to stop all 4 shared fates, or have the answer in hand at the moment it was needed.
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I missed these kinds of articles (and missed two questions! ).
Also, huge props for the RHPS reference and did I smell a 4chan reference too?
first post = serious business
I actually remember reading that Weight of Conscience removed the creature that was enchanted when the ability was played... but I can't guarantee that whoever said that was right, so I guess that's wrong.
yeah, i thought i read that somewhere too. i'll have to track it down to make sure their not credable.
Also, nice article, but be sure to double check your card tags. It's hard to get questions right when you can't see the cards being talked about.
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Weight of Conscience doesn't target. If it did, you would be absolutely correct.
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only apply to raids.
regardless, this thread makes me sad when people don't realize that site is dead. it has been dead since fox news and bill oreilly gave it public light and it was flooded with the cancer.
how many people there now can tell you what 1million get was? or who nevada-tan was?
i digress so bad.
i enjoyed the article, and the quiz style is always interesting to read
Also, Rule #15 Urchin=Pime Taradox
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I only missed one question which is really good for me, although I liked the second question's answers. Is it official that Jon Finkel is the new Chuck Norris?
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EDIT: btw, good article. It was short, but the quality was there. I didn't get any wrong exept the puzzlebox question. I figured the inter action isn't that bas when you've got no library and no hand, but after consiteration I saw that you'd alread won that game.
Great article, only missed one Question
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Articles use magiccards.info for card tags, regardless of your forum preference (mine is set to Gatherer). Especially for newer cards, that's a lot of the problem, since magiccards.info doesn't update as quickly. I clicked on a couple of links that didn't work; FWIW, both had apostrophes in their names.
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This question is... pseudo-wrong, I'd say. It's not that morph is a static ability that allows you to do it, it's because it is paying a cost to end an effect, which is defined as a special action under the rules. You can't really pay for static effects.
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Well perhaps. I think the writer was more thinking of the fact that teferi's puzzle box only really works once, since the cards from shared fate are never ACTUALLY in your hand, and thus aren't affected by the box.
So the first time you box after shared fate you put your hand on the bottom, rfg cards from his library...and everytime after, the box does nothing.
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I got 10/11 because I chose option F. Maybe I should ask the teacher to remark my quiz.
I was also tempted by options G ("yes, if you use Mycosynth Lattice and Neurok Transmuter to turn the Licid into a non-creature artifact first") and H ("yes, if the Licid is an artificially evolved Bound in Silence").
Edit: Of course, G is wrong because the Transmuter would just turn it back into a non-artifact creature. Sure glad I didn't choose G.
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Yes, G is very wrong indeed. I didn't think of H though - good job.
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Except that it does something. I got bored of affinity, and played around with just this combo, during ons/mir standard. The puzzle box, when shared fate was in play, kept the very popular eternal dragon from ever being able to return to play--it would plainscycle, but could never be cast. I'm sure you can see how that would be useful, especially in a game in which no one could ever deck while shared fate was in play. It would also help if an opponent was able to somehow get a card into their hand at upkeep, or on your turn; the box would send it to the bottom, to be replaced by shared fate. Finally, box would strip their hand of any 'answers' to shared fate--threats, ways to neuter their own deck, etc. Of course, disenchants and bounce still needed to be countered, but using the box to dig for fate made it less likely they'd be able to stop all 4 shared fates, or have the answer in hand at the moment it was needed.