MTG Salvation

This video has both Vergil and Dante but the fighting should speak for itself.

Quote from Plaguefather

Yes, but superman doesn't move like he's teleporting

No he just moves at ever so slightly slower than speed of light. I'm a big fan of Devil May Cry but no, just no. There is no way in hell Dante moves fast enough to avoid being snatched up and squished by Doomsday.

As for the rest of your post, I simply can't argue with that kind of nonsense (Dante is more powerful than Thor?! Please :rolleyes:)

Dante might not be physically stronger than Thor but he has the endurance and umph necessary to take him out.

Tally so far...

Poll votes:
SM - 13
CSK - 11

Post votes:
SM - 5
CSK - 4

Total votes:
SM - 18
CSK - 15

Breakdown:
Iso - CSK
Belgareth - ???
Von - ???
Plaguefather - CSK
Warp778 - CSK
narah - CSK
jeffbcrandall - SM
draftguy2 - SM
Jay13x - SM
PopeJP - ???
sirpsychosexy - SM
PanchoPonceN - SM

Notes:
Now this is a battle.

Quote from Jay13x

Hulk strongest one there is

Quote from Iso

Do you really want to get into this with me? Accept your defeat at the hands of the Killers.

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

You know I'm just kidding guys.

Quote from sirpsychosexy

Those are not the versions I had in mind when I nominated this team!

I'm aware of that, but come on!

This Hulk manhandled Loki and the majority of a Chitauri army, and this Doomsday singlehandedly took down 4 of the 7 members of the Evil Alternate Universe! Justice League, the Justice Lords (the Flash from their universe was dead, Batman was busy holding the mainstream Justice League prisoner, and Superman was still beaten up, only winning via lobotomy; and this JL wasn't afraid to go all out, so that was them not holding back, and they still didn't manage to defeat DD easily). Besides, they are still leading the poll currently, so I don't think the rules changes are hurting them that much...

Also, the video linked to by PanchoPonceN was quite cool, and comes as highly recommended. People really need to focus on Bayonetta more.

Quote from Iso

Hulk isn't a Phytohydra. He may get angrier as the battle goes on but he will fatigue. We haven't even discussed the upper limits of Dante or Bayonetta's powers yet. Do you really want to get into this with me? Accept your defeat at the hands of the Killers.

The Hulk gets more powerful the angrier he gets. There is nothing to indicate he experiences any real fatigue, in either his main movie or the Avengers. In fact, the longer he fights the better he gets. Re-watch the Avengers ending, he starts off taking down a Leviathan and goes on from there, eventually manhandling two gods by the end of the fight. He gets knocked into New Jersey by Mjolnir, and only turns back into Banner because he calmed down.

DCAU Doomsday still comes back stronger every time he's killed, even if he isn't quite as godlike as comics Doomsday.

Teleport-ish powers are scary, but as I pointed out Hulk deals with that in all mediums with one of his thunderclaps, which will hurt someone moving that fast.

Quote from Belgareth

I already think Bayonetta is the most versatile and "strongest" overall (not physically but whole package).
Her time magic and witchy powers along with ability to turn her hair into a giant massive demon and eat the hulk are no laughing matter.

Massive Demon form doesn't scare Hulk, after all he takes down a few of these:


What I've seen of her giant demon form, you're going to need something bigger.

Just be glad you guys aren't taking on this Hulk:



I'm not going to change my vote, but it's fun arguing this. I wish I could enjoy those hack and slash type games more, the characters are definitely interesting.

Side Note: Hulk is my favorite superhero, ever since I was six years old. There is just something about a giant green rage machine that still uses his power to help people that resonated with the little kid with anger management issues that I was.

This is cartoon Doomsday IIRC, so he does not move at the speed of light. Cartoon superman gets hurt by a car thrown at him, and he beat Doomsday.

Quote from Plaguefather

That's one of the more defining points I'd like to illustrate here, BOTH Bayonetta AND Dante have this power (apparently Quicksilver gives this ability to him? - not 100%sure) But still, Dante and Bayonetta combining their efforts, they could essentially stop time around them. Wouldn't that be considered a win? Hulk and Doomsday wouldn't be moving, they'd effectively be incapacitated due to time-stop.

How does the time stop work, exactly. Isn't it limited in duration?

Quote from Belgareth

Yeah it is but it's reusable and recharges or can be used longer at the small expense of a lollipop so as long as bayonetta brings a few candy treats with her she can easily slow time right down. She did this to out run a train , avoid bullets and escape lava , out speeding hulk is no issue.

To be honest I would even say versus flash and sonic she could slow them down to regular speed for a short time, her witching hour is very potent.

How long does it last and how much time each lolipop provide? If it lasts for a minute or less I guess she'll have to bring A LOT of them as I dont see Hulk being defeated in a short amount of time.

Out-running a train doesn't seem very impressive. Quicksilver could do that easily, and it's already been shown that Hulk can hit him.

Quote from Stardust

Out-running a train doesn't seem very impressive. Quicksilver could do that easily, and it's already been shown that Hulk can hit him.

Yeah. Movie Hulk is actually a bit more powerful that classic Silver Age Hulk, and even though Movie Hulk hasn't been up against a speedster yet (we will see in Avengers 2 if they square him off against Quicksilver), the less powerful versions of the Hulk are actually extremely quick in close range. Fast enough to at least clothesline or backhand a speedster (but not fast enough for a solid hit).

http://www.comiccollectorlive.com/Forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=3880

Hulk is not invincible.

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Dante's Quicksilver power slows down foes around him and boosts his speed, as well. It lasts for an entire Devil Trigger gauge, and Dante can just use a Devil Star to replenish that if need be.

Quote from Belgareth

Iron man defeated hulk in comics using nanites that prevented banner from transforming, however we are using avengers hulk not worldwar hulk (though i'd be more scared of red hulk).
Thing your not getting is that Bayonetta doesn't just move fast she slows down time for those around her kinda like neo in the matrix with bullet time.

Hulk would still be moving his hands together as she struck and then jumped away well before he clapped.

World War Hulk Green Hulk is stronger than the Red Hulk, but that persona disappeared along with his desire for revenge. Red Hulk is pretty scary, but not since they nerfed his Energy Absorbing powers, making him about as strong as a stronger Hulk.

Quote from Iso

http://www.comiccollectorlive.com/Forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=3880

Hulk is not invincible.

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Dante's Quicksilver power slows down foes around him and boosts his speed, as well. It lasts for an entire Devil Trigger gauge, and Dante can just use a Devil Star to replenish that if need be.

Zeus whooped his butt, too, and more recently.

But anyway, what are 'Devil Stars' and how does that work? It would seem unfair for him to have an infinite number of usable resources to keep this slow mo going.

Dante can have a large number of Devil Stars in his inventory at any time (I think 30 small and 20 large?) and they replenish his Devil Trigger upon being expended. The large ones do so fully and the small ones do by about...half?

So yeah, he's got a definite edge in that respect.

Dante also refills Devil Trigger any time he's hit.

Quote from Iso

Dante also refills Devil Trigger any time he's hit.

But can he activate it while unconcious

Yes, actually.

Quote from Iso

Yes, actually.

Tally so far...

Poll votes:
SM - 14
CSK - 14

Post votes:
SM - 5
CSK - 4

Total votes:
SM - 19
CSK - 18

Breakdown:
Iso - CSK
Belgareth - ???
Von - ???
Plaguefather - CSK
Warp778 - CSK
narah - CSK
jeffbcrandall - SM
draftguy2 - SM
Jay13x - SM
PopeJP - ???
sirpsychosexy - SM
PanchoPonceN - SM
Biefall - ???
Stardust - ???

Notes:
Still anyone's game! A very close match indeed, with Team "Smash" leading by just one post vote...

I'm changing my vote to team CSK. I've seen too much compelling evidence to continue to support team Smash. Time manipulation and magic weapons is a pretty big gap to overcome. Plus the first DMC game and the new remake are tied for my all time favorite video games so that has to mean something. Right?

Poring I poll voted for Smash so consider that if you like.

Off topic, I've never played Bayonetta. How similar is it to the DMC games? Am I pretty much guaranteed to like it given my love for DMC?

I am excited about this match.

I Vote for Team Smash to make things more interesting

Time Magic cannot last forever in an infinite loop and I still Hulk have some "super armor" in the most of the videogames he's included, even if he's hit he could still clap and the sonic wave would hit them no matter what.

If somehow Hulk keeps on getting him and he doesnt hit them back wouldnt that frustrate him and make him rage even more?

A gamma tsunami could hit them at a very long distance.

Again, Hulk is not a Phytohydra.