There is absolutely no excuse for complaining about what's being offered! Guests can simply say no thank-you. They don't need to insult their host, it's definitely rude.
On the other hand...I don't see any reason to drink beer that is of a low quality. Additives and low quality ingredients make people feel ill. More power to you if you can find great beer at a low price. For me, though, it's either the best I can get or I wait.
I've had my fill of cheap beer (in high school, in college, after college!). I'm at a point where I now drink what I like or nothing.
Gonna go with buttman on this one. I'd never show up to a "party" like that, but ffs, if you go to a party and you dont like the free food and drink, either go for a mcdonalds and booze run or shut the **** up and dont eat anything.
I've hosted and fully funded parties that range from informal (pizza, cheap booze and drafting magic) to extremely formal (dress code enforced, suits and such), and if anyone at any of those parties had the gall to complain about what I was serving, I'd probably tell them to **** off as well. Its just bad manners to do that.
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I've always gone with the steak vs hamburger analogy when discussing cheap beer vs "good" beer. There's always a time and a place for burgers, but I'm not going to sit here and act like it's a premium steak.
I feel like people look to act like they're better than or above something in pretty much any aspect of life. Beer snobbery is no different. And if you're too good to drink a PBR, that's fine. But don't get mad at someone because that's all they bought you. If they hadn't given you anything--they haven't wronged you at all. But because an attempted nice gesture isn't nice enough--they suddenly have?
To say the OP FORCED something on his guests? LOL. He opened his home and gave them free stuff. Seriously, why not just act outraged that the burgers aren't expensive steaks. Why not get mad that the burgers aren't organic drug free beef? YOU TRYING TO POISON ME MAN? Weak @$$ free food.
Some of you responded talking about the difference in price--well maybe there's something there the OP can work with. But the issue isn't really "Is cheap beer ok?" It's about basic human manners. If Wal-Mart offers free samples of cereal, you don't get mad that they didn't give samples of a better cereal.
Some people were taught to say thank you when someone gives you something for free.
Some people were taught to ask "What is this $hit?" and insult someone.
And I'm sorry, but if you're partying to get drunk, you don't prefer quantity over quality. I'm sure these people have been to OP's parties in the past and know how said parties go. You can act high and mighty, but we've all partied to get plastered at some point or another. If your friend throws parties to get plastered, and you go just to have a few beers--don't expect "good" beer for those of you that just came to sip.
I agree with the OP. If I'm having a party and tell people in advance that I am supplying beer and food and people show up and complain about the beer I'm serving they can piss off. It would be different if I invited a couple into my home for dinner and I know the guy coming loves premium beer; I would then purchase and serve premium beer. But if I'm having a large BBQ (like the one I'm having for my 4th of July party) and I'm having 40+ people; then those people can drink the cheap beer I'm supplying and eat the food I'm serving or they can bring their own. And yes, I agree with the OP; to be invited to someone's home, be served food and beverages and then complain vocally about it is ultimately disrespectful and rude.
I am shocked at how many people in this thread think they are entitled to either good (read more expensive beer) and are entitled to complain about what they are served. The analogy stands. If I invited you over for either burgers or even say a ribeye and you complained that it wasn't filet mignon, then you are a rude person that needs to have his manners checked. It is no different if I invited you over and served you Pabst Blue Ribbon or Bud Light and you complained it wasn't "insert whatever custom brew here". It is rude.
I think what some people are failing to communicate and/or understand, is that it makes a difference as to who's hosting. If I'm going to a party at a stranger's, a casual acquaintance, work acquaintance, spouses work or friends, or friends of fiends, relatives, it'd be extremely rude in the highest order to complain. If going to my close friends' place and they provide cheap crap, they'll never here the end of it(that is until they provide the good stuff! LOL).
I'm going to a 4th of July party and they're having a keg of Coors. WTF!!! Since these are my wife's work friends we won't say a word, we'll just bring our own. It's OK to give your good friends crap about serving crap, just be humorous and sarcastic not pretentious and entitled. But be polite to everyone else, good manners are underrated.
As a host, what you serve will reflect onto your reputation as a person. Serve cheap stuff and you're cheap. Serve quality stuff and you're quality. As long as it's reasonably respectful, the ones who tell you that you're being cheap and it's negatively impacting your reputation are doing you a favor. Listening is tech. It's *your* responsibility as a host to ensure that your guests have a good time. If any guest has feeling that they'd be better off somewhere else, you failed in some aspect. Maybe you need better activities, or consumables, or just not invite that guest in the first place.
Perhaps try a beer tasting party? Everyone brings a sixer of their favorite beer. Everyone brings a sixer of something they've never tried. Instead of wasting the money on kegs, give out prizes for best beer, worst beer, best packaging, etc. Its a good time and everyone wins
Good lord in heaven, that is a great idea. Why have I never thought of it before?
If the OP's idea of a party revolves around getting drunk together on cheap beer, he should make an effort to invite only very like-minded people, because mainstream beer tastes are aimed a bit higher.
The problem with cheap beer is that, unlike e.g. a hamburger at a barbecue, you know in advance it's bad; it doesn't deserve a chance, many people would rather not drink beer at all.
And of course choosing bad beer reflects badly on the party organizer, as either too cheap to spend a little more for decent beer or lacking the taste and/or hospitality sense to care for decent beer. I'd probably avoid complaining, firmly refuse to drink bad beer, and push for going to a bar or restaurant where I can order what I want next time; but rude people are an abundant commodity.
You shouldn't complain about what the host offers, but bad beer is bad because it tastes bad, and this includes Moose Head. Invite people who only treat beer as a means of getting drunk if that is your philosophy.
It's been more than a year since anyone posted in this thread, but I will say, I enjoy cheap beer from time to time. I have a soft spot for Steel Reserve because I used to drink it when I was an underage hooligan! I still buy a 40 oz sometimes because I have developed a taste for it lol. Cheap beer has it's place. Good beer also has it's place.
On the other hand...I don't see any reason to drink beer that is of a low quality. Additives and low quality ingredients make people feel ill. More power to you if you can find great beer at a low price. For me, though, it's either the best I can get or I wait.
I've had my fill of cheap beer (in high school, in college, after college!). I'm at a point where I now drink what I like or nothing.
I've hosted and fully funded parties that range from informal (pizza, cheap booze and drafting magic) to extremely formal (dress code enforced, suits and such), and if anyone at any of those parties had the gall to complain about what I was serving, I'd probably tell them to **** off as well. Its just bad manners to do that.
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I've always gone with the steak vs hamburger analogy when discussing cheap beer vs "good" beer. There's always a time and a place for burgers, but I'm not going to sit here and act like it's a premium steak.
I feel like people look to act like they're better than or above something in pretty much any aspect of life. Beer snobbery is no different. And if you're too good to drink a PBR, that's fine. But don't get mad at someone because that's all they bought you. If they hadn't given you anything--they haven't wronged you at all. But because an attempted nice gesture isn't nice enough--they suddenly have?
To say the OP FORCED something on his guests? LOL. He opened his home and gave them free stuff. Seriously, why not just act outraged that the burgers aren't expensive steaks. Why not get mad that the burgers aren't organic drug free beef? YOU TRYING TO POISON ME MAN? Weak @$$ free food.
Some of you responded talking about the difference in price--well maybe there's something there the OP can work with. But the issue isn't really "Is cheap beer ok?" It's about basic human manners. If Wal-Mart offers free samples of cereal, you don't get mad that they didn't give samples of a better cereal.
Some people were taught to say thank you when someone gives you something for free.
Some people were taught to ask "What is this $hit?" and insult someone.
And I'm sorry, but if you're partying to get drunk, you don't prefer quantity over quality. I'm sure these people have been to OP's parties in the past and know how said parties go. You can act high and mighty, but we've all partied to get plastered at some point or another. If your friend throws parties to get plastered, and you go just to have a few beers--don't expect "good" beer for those of you that just came to sip.
I am shocked at how many people in this thread think they are entitled to either good (read more expensive beer) and are entitled to complain about what they are served. The analogy stands. If I invited you over for either burgers or even say a ribeye and you complained that it wasn't filet mignon, then you are a rude person that needs to have his manners checked. It is no different if I invited you over and served you Pabst Blue Ribbon or Bud Light and you complained it wasn't "insert whatever custom brew here". It is rude.
I'm going to a 4th of July party and they're having a keg of Coors. WTF!!! Since these are my wife's work friends we won't say a word, we'll just bring our own. It's OK to give your good friends crap about serving crap, just be humorous and sarcastic not pretentious and entitled. But be polite to everyone else, good manners are underrated.
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The problem with cheap beer is that, unlike e.g. a hamburger at a barbecue, you know in advance it's bad; it doesn't deserve a chance, many people would rather not drink beer at all.
And of course choosing bad beer reflects badly on the party organizer, as either too cheap to spend a little more for decent beer or lacking the taste and/or hospitality sense to care for decent beer. I'd probably avoid complaining, firmly refuse to drink bad beer, and push for going to a bar or restaurant where I can order what I want next time; but rude people are an abundant commodity.
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