I'm 5ft 7 and my max deadlift thus far is 345 at 162lb.
That means at 315 your form is starting to fall apart.
315/345= ~90%
Put on 20lbs and that 345 will be easy. There is reason why I went up to 220lbs. It has to due with the number of pathways being able to increase with more mass. My form over 385 starts going to absolute garbage, I hit 405 last week though... I usually stop at 375 and just rep it if it's a heavy week. Otherwise I just rep out 225x10x10. I am 100% certain I can cut back down to 200lbs and still pull that much, because I put on a lot of fat during the bulk. The pathways were formed though, so I know I will keep them going and just go for that hypertrophic growth.
Start your bulk at the end of the season and then work it up a little bit at a time to get those pathways going. Then just start cutting early enough while keeping the protein as high as you were on the bulk, and cycle your carbs to get back down to the weight you want to compete at.
There's no reason to limit yourself ever.
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Well, I'm sort of half-assing things as is because I'm waiting for surgery for my wrist.
Can only do exercises that do not place any significant amount of stress on my wrist. Thus, bench/OHP and any upper body exercises besides chin-up/rows are out of the picture.
Maybe once I can do everything fully functional, then maybe. Hard to put on proper amounts of mass when you can't seriously exercise the upper part of your body.
But my goal is to stay below 165 at all times while reaching 3xbw dead/2xbw squat/etc. Perhaps allow myself to bulk up to 175, but unlikely.
I am in no way promoting drug use with this post and all information below should be taken as educational, not as a pro tip;
I use this stuff a lot for fun. I prefer Vyvanse, though. I'm very open about my drug use and just wanted to give you some incite and information on the serious negative side effects of this drug. (To deter you guys away from taking more than the prescribed dose. Ever. It's very tempting.)
I've been taking anywhere from 30 to 200mg in a single session. (Stretched weeks apart, I will explain why)Sometimes 30 is enough to get me up, and depending on how much of it I have and the last time I took it. Adderall (The orange chewable pills) are very, very strong. 30 mg of that stuff feels like 60 of XR and 40 of Vyvanse. This is only if you use the break-in-half technique to kill the time release (some chew them). These three medications are prescribed for basically the same things and I'm only telling you this because there may come a time where you switch medications.
Anyway, the highs are great, last for hours and hours and I have learned to handle the crashes really well. This is because I've been doing them for nearly five years and do them intelligently. (When I said 200+ mg in a single binge I meant over an 18 hr period. never take that much at once and many shouldn't take that much period)
I've seen people put holes in walls, attack friends, cry for hours, stare vacant at walls for hours, drink themselves nearly to death and stay up for 48 hrs well after they've taken the last pill due to the way you come down off this stuff. It's not a joke; abusing this stuff, especially if you're a newbie, can rewire your brain and seriously mess with everything going on up there.
When I first started doing Addy with my stepdad he was a great guy. Always happy, upbeat, giving, caring and generally an amazing human being. He had a tendency of doing 30, 30mg pills in a matter of three-four days without any sleeping one to three times a month. Over the course of the last couple years he snaps at the drop of a dime, becomes violent, has little interest in anything and he and I no longer speak because he can not control his rage. (even after 20+ days without Adderall) When Adderall is abused and taken in large doses over long periods of time it has serious mental side effects.
Adderall turned him into, and I'm saying this seriously not metaphorically, into someone with Intermittent explosive disorder. We no longer speak and I've lost my best friend and yes, I blame Adderall.
The side effects I've had from this have been completely unnoticeable aside from some enamel deterioration on my teeth from the teeth grinding you get from binging. If anything because I researched extensively how not to turn into my stepdad has kept the serious side effects free.
I have a friend who uses 70 mg Vyvanse to lose weight. She went from taking them like a pill, to opening the capsule onto her tongue, to snorting them and now she's about 95 lbs, nearly grinded all her teeth off, has gotten so avoident and anti social she doesn't talk to anyone else and basically turned herself into a meth addict.
Adderall is so addictive because of what it does to your mind. "If I take this I won't eat" "I can cram for a test better" "I want to be able to work out more" "It makes me more social"
This drug is serious. Do not take it lightly. I honestly can't believe they give it to children in such high doses. Expect it to be banned sometime eventually.
Great post.
As an aside - I think that Nidstyles means well but I was healthier than 99% of the population when I finished bootcamp and it didn't change my symptoms. Now I'm not so healthy but the symptoms are the same as ever.
But back to your story - I have no intention of using that much. I'm pretty straight-edge and I haven't deviated or even considered deviating from my prescribed dose. I've never smoked a cigarette or done any recreational drugs.
I am glad that you shared your experience however. It gives me a broader perspective. Thank you.
As an aside - I think that Nidstyles means well but I was healthier than 99% of the population when I finished bootcamp and it didn't change my symptoms. Now I'm not so healthy but the symptoms are the same as ever.
But back to your story - I have no intention of using that much. I'm pretty straight-edge and I haven't deviated or even considered deviating from my prescribed dose. I've never smoked a cigarette or done any recreational drugs.
I am glad that you shared your experience however. It gives me a broader perspective. Thank you.
I'm not trying to say you were not healthy. I am trying to say that you should be larger than you are for your stress levels from what you have indicated. More muscle mass allows you to handle higher cortisol levels without it effecting you physically which creates mental issues with focusing. You honestly described exactly what I was going through when I left the Army. Lifting gave me back the body mass to be able to burn through the cortisol and remove stress from my body efficiently.
I'm saying you're hormones are out of whack, and that Adderall will not actually help you in any real fashion. You seem to have already made up your mind and will likely be abusing it soon enough though.
My advice is that you need to read more about how your body actually works before deciding to use those substances. If you want to find a better forum to discuss this topic at length PM me. I have been a member of Bluelight since 2001. I will send you my account info over there and we can discuss this openly with people that understand it far more than myself. My efforts are purely in harm reduction and keeping people away from things that can seriously damage you long term or even kill you.
He should not be assuming that OP doesn't have ADHD and saying he'll likely be abusing Adderall soon. Plenty of people use it and never abuse it, especially if they're the kind of person to never even try a cigarette. I doubt a lack in muscle mass and a downturn in metabolism is what's causing OP to not be able to focus...
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He should not be assuming that OP doesn't have ADHD and saying he'll likely be abusing Adderall soon. Plenty of people use it and never abuse it, especially if they're the kind of person to never even try a cigarette. I doubt a lack in muscle mass and a downturn in metabolism is what's causing OP to not be able to focus...
Thank you.
But come on - I've been very polite about this but he came in here knowing nothing about me except that I took some prescribed adderall and all of a sudden he's diagnosing my problems like some kind of a creepy message board doctor House.
Then he spends the next two pages talking about weight training in a thread about adderall. I tried to be nice to him but he gets in a snit about it and predicts that I'll be abusing prescription meds soon.
In spite of his claims to the contrary I'm thinking that he is most definitely not balanced.
But come on - I've been very polite about this but he came in here knowing nothing about me except that I took some prescribed adderall and all of a sudden he's diagnosing my problems like some kind of a creepy message board doctor House.
Then he spends the next two pages talking about weight training in a thread about adderall. I tried to be nice to him but he gets in a snit about it and predicts that I'll be abusing prescription meds soon.
In spite of his claims to the contrary I'm thinking that he is most definitely not balanced.
No, like that guy above snickered about Bluelight and harm reduction, you have no idea what you are about to start stuffing into your blood stream, and are telling me that you will not be addicted to the feeling. Every future addict says the same thing. I know because that site I posted works with addicts. I have seen them come and go for over a decade now. I volunteer my time at a clinic to help people that are recovering from addiction to the same drugs you are about to start using. I work with the Salvation Army to help children that grew up in homes with that sort of thing.
Balanced is depending on whether or not you want to suffer the side effects of long term amphetamine use. I'm not balanced but you think a little pill is going to make your life easier. I would rather suck it up and be a man about it and improve myself without using a drug that gives the semblance of improvement. While you talk about being straight edge but only a little drug use...
This thread should have been locked and deleted the day you made it. It doesn't belong on here.
When the Adderall was working I wasn't procrastinating.
The first day I was so high I couldn't stop myself. That wasn't good. I got a lot of stuff done and I felt like I had superhuman powers of observation but it was too altered.
Then on about the third day I wasn't feeling particularly high or hyperactive. I was making responsible decisions and performing tasks that needed done as soon as I had the time. There was no procrastination. Might have still been a little high but I couldn't tell aside from being unusually confident.
By the fifth day I was starting to feel almost as if I wasn't taking medication at all but I was still noticably more succinct in conversation. Procrastination was possible but manageable.
Today is the eighth day and I feel like there's nothing in me even though I took the same dose again this morning. I was in full procrastination mode earlier and my wife was getting frustrated at me for talking in circles again.
I understand that the body builds a tolerance. Still - there ought to be a dose that will give me an effect that's somewhat like the way it felt between day 3 and day 5. I'll be talking to my physician about that as soon as she comes back from the long weekend.
Quoting this to make a point. Any external observer can see what the reaction you had was, and that you already think you need a higher dose.
Yes. I did make up my mind and I feel really great about it.
You've been going on and on about weight training. It's boring and off-topic. Aside from that you've been contradicting people. You've been accusing and confrontational. You even took a shot at me when we weren't even having a conversation.
I've been trying to let you have your space to talk but you're not using it very well. Your behavior is not good.
No, like that guy above snickered about Bluelight and harm reduction, you have no idea what you are about to start stuffing into your blood stream, and are telling me that you will not be addicted to the feeling. Every future addict says the same thing. I know because that site I posted works with addicts. I have seen them come and go for over a decade now. I volunteer my time at a clinic to help people that are recovering from addiction to the same drugs you are about to start using. I work with the Salvation Army to help children that grew up in homes with that sort of thing.
Balanced is depending on whether or not you want to suffer the side effects of long term amphetamine use. I'm not balanced but you think a little pill is going to make your life easier. I would rather suck it up and be a man about it and improve myself without using a drug that gives the semblance of improvement. While you talk about being straight edge but only a little drug use...
This thread should have been locked and deleted the day you made it. It doesn't belong on here.
It's obvious you've already made up your mind:
Quoting this to make a point. Any external observer can see what the reaction you had was, and that you already think you need a higher dose.
Wow, dude. Do you have any medical experience? Are you a licensed psychologist? Judging by you not saying you are yet I'm gonna go with no. Don't come on here practically telling someone that you know better than their doctor does. This guy is not a 12 yr old who got locked in a room while his parents did meth for days on end. This is a grown adult who takes an extremely small dose of a harmless drug if not abused. There have been multiple studies highlighting the benefits of ADHD medications in adults as well as children.
Also, coming in here and practically saying "Bro, do you even lift?" brought me great laughs.
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Well, I do not take much more than Motrin/IB (do not ask me to spell its other name). I remember two drugs when appendix died (litterly)....the morphine they gave me upon was like, wow....and the stuff, do not know what it's called but it helps with contrasting MRI's.....soon as they shoot you with it, it a hot sensation taht starts at your head and flows down to your mid section where it feels like you just peed yourself, this right after they make you drink a gallon of disgusting fake Kool Aide... Other than a a few other opioids and a few antibiotics I have zero expereince with drugs.
Died, as in necrosis? Or perforated? (Which is still dangerous and needs to be removed ASAP.)
If you want, just call any stuff that helps with contrasting MRIs or X-rays or whatever "dye" or "stain", because that's essentially what it is.
My friend once had a benign tumor excised from his shoulder. He learned he has a tolerance for painkillers. Not so much of a tolerance for pain.
never side effects. Used another 5hr today due to **** sleep last night and this stuff it strange how unnoticable and alert it is. I see why it sells. Have to get better sleep habits cause I'm not spending money on this every few days but it does what it says it does.
Well, it would do that to some extent even if it was just water and you thought it was something other than water. The placebo effect is powerful.
I thought the results from that stuff was just your body responding to not responding to your metabolism by eating and drinking right. exercise too.
It is an environmental factor. But every disorder is on a continuum because everything is an interplay between genes and the environment. (For instance, most cancers are hereditary with the usual caveats for exposure to radon and CO, and certain viruses; but infection is almost entirely environmental, but some genetic variations grant better immunity than others. Diabetes is in-between on this sliding scale.)
What happens when you're diabetic is that your cells start to resist insulin (partially because of how high-carb meals can mess with your insulin levels, and partially because fatty tissue promotes insulin resistance).
In the old days, we called them quacks. Now we call them "integrative". An interesting term. It implies that quacks are under some form of apartheid. (Ironically, the first government-backed SCAM in modern times was the Heilpraktiker movement in Nazi Germany. This isn't a Godwin, just pointing out the irony.)
The difference, of course, being that apartheid doesn't discriminate based on the one thing you're allowed to discriminate based on: Merit. Obviously, getting medicine instead of magnets, crystals, and magic water discriminates based on merit.
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Wow, dude. Do you have any medical experience? Are you a licensed psychologist? Judging by you not saying you are yet I'm gonna go with no. Don't come on here practically telling someone that you know better than their doctor does. This guy is not a 12 yr old who got locked in a room while his parents did meth for days on end. This is a grown adult who takes an extremely small dose of a harmless drug if not abused. There have been multiple studies highlighting the benefits of ADHD medications in adults as well as children.
Also, coming in here and practically saying "Bro, do you even lift?" brought me great laughs.
That was good of you. Thank you. The last line was funny but probably not worth saying.
Unfortunately that's the way it'll be for me. I'm taking medicine that some other people like to abuse. No matter what i say i'll sound like i'm denying an addiction. I knew something like this was possible but i've been happy to hear about people's experiences so it's really not a problem.
Wow, dude. Do you have any medical experience? Are you a licensed psychologist? Judging by you not saying you are yet I'm gonna go with no. Don't come on here practically telling someone that you know better than their doctor does. This guy is not a 12 yr old who got locked in a room while his parents did meth for days on end. This is a grown adult who takes an extremely small dose of a harmless drug if not abused. There have been multiple studies highlighting the benefits of ADHD medications in adults as well as children.
Also, coming in here and practically saying "Bro, do you even lift?" brought me great laughs.
It's telling what sort of person calls it ADHD medication rather than what it actually is.
The guy already says the dosage is not high enough, and didn't like to come down from it. It's plain as day where I am sitting, you can defend drug abusing behavior all you wish. I will not.
Your sense of humor is rather sad and in poor taste when I was indicating that it was his health that was the problem, not the ability to lift weights. The guy is under weight for a male his height, and likely also has a high fat percentage. Add in sitting at desk for hours on end and you're going to have some issues with properly maintaining hormonal balance. It has nothing to do with psychology, and everything to do with physiology. That you are incapable of distinguishing the two tells me that you are the one that is actually uneducated on this matter.
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It's telling what sort of person calls it ADHD medication rather than what it actually is.
The guy already says the dosage is not high enough, and didn't like to come down from it. It's plain as day where I am sitting, you can defend drug abusing behavior all you wish. I will not.
Your sense of humor is rather sad and in poor taste when I was indicating that it was his health that was the problem, not the ability to lift weights. The guy is under weight for a male his height, and likely also has a high fat percentage. Add in sitting at desk for hours on end and you're going to have some issues with properly maintaining hormonal balance. It has nothing to do with psychology, and everything to do with physiology. That you are incapable of distinguishing the two tells me that you are the one that is actually uneducated on this matter.
you are calling him a future drug addict. you know nothing about him. who are you to throw around baseless accusations? i dont think anyone here is denying the benefits of a healthy lifestyle when it comes to focus and energy. you can not fix every case of ADHD with a correct BMI and excercise, however. but whatever buddy.
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Relevant update:
Met with my GP today to talk about it. She says that not everyone has a first day like I had and suggested that I'm sensitive to stimulants. She mentioned that she started me on a low dose and after some discussion she decided that I should try 25 mg instead. (up from 20) We discussed a medication that isn't a stimulant - namely Strattera. She also mentioned that we could schedule an appointment with a psychiatrist. I'll be following up again with her later.
Also a grades update: 100% in Design Principles, 97% in Concepts in Modern Physics.
I average about 93% usually (~3.9 gpa) so there's definitely signs that it's helping.
you are calling him a future drug addict. you know nothing about him. who are you to throw around baseless accusations? i dont think anyone here is denying the benefits of a healthy lifestyle when it comes to focus and energy. you can not fix every case of ADHD with a correct BMI and excercise, however. but whatever buddy.
I've never even heard of exercise and proper diet as a treatment for a psychiatric problem before this thread.
There's a certain degree of genetics denialism within the altmed movement. I've seen it in dietary treatments all around, I've seen it in supplements, I saw it a lot after Angelina Jolie announced her double mastectomy, and I've seen it in alternative psychiatry. Usually diet is explained as the real cause of all disease, and it's especially popular with animal rights groups. While not technically genetics denialism, there were diet-based protocols they used to supposedly cure AIDS; then they became national policy in South Africa and killed more people than the entire apartheid regime.
The worst part of it is when they say mainstream medicine doesn't teach about nutrition. (Oh, geez, I wonder what biochem classes are.) Or doesn't teach prevention (then denounce vaccines). Yeah, so, when someone starts saying dietary changes for something dietary changes clearly won't help, it makes me pull out my bingo card.
Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
I've never even heard of exercise and proper diet as a treatment for a psychiatric problem before this thread.
There's a certain degree of genetics denialism within the altmed movement. I've seen it in dietary treatments all around, I've seen it in supplements, I saw it a lot after Angelina Jolie announced her double mastectomy, and I've seen it in alternative psychiatry. Usually diet is explained as the real cause of all disease, and it's especially popular with animal rights groups. While not technically genetics denialism, there were diet-based protocols they used to supposedly cure AIDS; then they became national policy in South Africa and killed more people than the entire apartheid regime.
The worst part of it is when they say mainstream medicine doesn't teach about nutrition. (Oh, geez, I wonder what biochem classes are.) Or doesn't teach prevention (then denounce vaccines). Yeah, so, when someone starts saying dietary changes for something dietary changes clearly won't help, it makes me pull out my bingo card.
MDs really don't know much about nutrition and the main thing they're trained to do is to prescribe drugs which just mask your symptoms and don't actually "fix" the problem. A few years back I was having various symptoms including palpitations, shortness of breath and fatigue. I had frequent stomach aches as well. When the doctors didn't find anything wrong they told me I had anxiety and wanted to put me on antidepressants which I flat out refused. They were pretty confused and asked: Don't you want to get better? Anyway I decided to see a naturopath that one of my mom's co-worker's recommened and he found the real cause of my problems. I had celiac disease, which coupled with my poor diet resulted in deficiencies of many vitamins and minerals. Needless to say after I stopped eating gluten(wheat) and started taking vitamin supplements and eating better foods my symptoms vanished pretty quickly and have never returned. I still continue to take B-vitamins, magnesium, vitamin C and vitamin D in addition to the mutivitamin plus I eat a better diet and exercise everyday.
The only way I would be caught in a doctor's office or ER today is if I had a fracture or was having a heart attack or stroke. For actual diseases my naturopath is the only person I trust. As far as I'm concerned MDs are the quacks.
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MDs really don't know much about nutrition and the main thing they're trained to do is to prescribe drugs which just mask your symptoms and don't actually "fix" the problem. A few years back I was having various symptoms including palpitations, shortness of breath and fatigue. I had frequent stomach aches as well. When the doctors didn't find anything wrong they told me I had anxiety and wanted to put me on antidepressants which I flat out refused. They were pretty confused and asked: Don't you want to get better? Anyway I decided to see a naturopath that one of my mom's co-worker's recommened and he found the real cause of my problems. I had celiac disease, which coupled with my poor diet resulted in deficiencies of many vitamins and minerals. Needless to say after I stopped eating gluten(wheat) and started taking vitamin supplements and eating better foods my symptoms vanished pretty quickly and have never returned. I still continue to take B-vitamins, magnesium, vitamin C and vitamin D in addition to the mutivitamin plus I eat a better diet and exercise everyday.
The only way I would be caught in a doctor's office or ER today is if I had a fracture or was having a heart attack or stroke. For actual diseases my naturopath is the only person I trust. As far as I'm concerned MDs are the quacks.
Doctors diagnose celiac disease all the time.
Your experience doesn't indicate anything about the quality of doctors in general. My wife and I can relate to your circumstances. She was misdiagnosed with Chron's disease and a few other things before a smarter physician finally noticed that her gall-bladder was screwed up. You don't need a "naturopath". You just need an expert who isn't an idiot. If your naturopath is well educated and takes good care of you then by all means enjoy your excellent healthcare. Maybe I'd even go to your guy too. I don't care so much about the methods if the results are good.
I often recommend diet and exercise to my patients. I'm not a trained dietitian nor a physical therapist, so it is outside my scope of practice to make hard recommendations like meal planning or exercise regimens. I'll say this honestly as well, they are very effective if the patient is willing to put in the effort to stick to the plan long term.
Most patients are highly unwilling to make "lifestyle modifications" and continue to make bad health decisions. I can't but be discouraged when my physical therapist friends tell me their patients fail to follow their regimens. As for medications, 50% of patients will stop taking their medications after 1 year. Higher if the medication is taking more than once a day.
As I said earlier in this thread, I am try to get my patients to take the least number of medications possible, but when medications are needed, they should use them properly. Everyone taking a medication should know the medication's name, why they are taking it, how to take it, what strength they are taking, major side effects, and major warning signs. This fact is true if you are taking prescription medications like Adderall, over the counter medications like Tylenol, or supplements like Vitamin E. If you don't know, ask a health professional.
Doctors diagnose celiac disease all the time.
Your experience doesn't indicate anything about the quality of doctors in general. My wife and I can relate to your circumstances. She was misdiagnosed with Chron's disease and a few other things before a smarter physician finally noticed that her gall-bladder was screwed up. You don't need a "naturopath". You just need an expert who isn't an idiot. If your naturopath is well educated and takes good care of you then by all means enjoy your excellent healthcare. Maybe I'd even go to your guy too. I don't care so much about the methods if the results are good.
I'm sure there are good doctors out there, ones who think outside the box and actually care about the people they're helping. If I did see a good specialist who was able to figure things out and not have my GP tell me everything is in my head, then I probbably wouldn't have a negative view of doctors. To me they just seemed to give up too quickly and not investigate as much as I think they should have.
I'm not saying that seeing a naturopath is the solution to all of someone's health problems either. The one I'm seeing is good and knows what to look for, but like with every profession there are ones that don't have a clue about anything.
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I'm sure there are good doctors out there, ones who think outside the box and actually care about the people they're helping. If I did see a good specialist who was able to figure things out and not have my GP tell me everything is in my head, then I probbably wouldn't have a negative view of doctors. To me they just seemed to give up too quickly and not investigate as much as I think they should have.
I'm not saying that seeing a naturopath is the solution to all of someone's health problems either. The one I'm seeing is good and knows what to look for, but like with every profession there are ones that don't have a clue about anything.
Not what I was saying. What I was saying is, I see a lot of genetics denialism from them. Diet can't help with ADHD. It would be easy to at least provide circumstantial evidence that diet could, just look at what people with untreated ADHD eat and compare it to the general population. (And if I may borrow a Marxist term, "diet treats everything" strikes me as bourgeois.)
And for the record, we weren't talking about celiac disease, which is a genuine issue in about 1 in 133 Americans. You can test for it, and if it comes back positive, all you have to do is avoid foods containing wheat, barley, rye, oats, and hybrids thereof (e.g., triticale). Note that this is itself fairly easy to do if you avoid processed food.
There's also a cultural appropriation issue, speaking personally, in some of these lists of herbal remedies. No, the Sioux didn't use an herb indigenous to southern China to treat breast cancer or whatever. Yet I see that type of weirdness all the time.
FWIW, I also attack quacks who masquerade as scientific medicine. *waves at Stephen Lewis*
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You never know what you find in science and the human body. The mind and the stomach can be linked in odd ways. Some children's epilepsy is diet controlled. This was a happenstance discovered in type 1 diabetic children with epilepsy were often found in a ketogenic state (kinda like adkins diet) and they had less seizures. So some young children are pretty much on an Adkins diet to control seizures.
As a big proponent of evidence based medicine, I try to give recommendations based on the data I have. But as a person who believes in science, I know there are tons of things we do not know. Unfortunately, many of them will never be studied properly. Often because there is little way to make a profit from the research and governments are overspending and cutting research grants. (The looming antibiotic crisis is a key example of this).
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That means at 315 your form is starting to fall apart.
315/345= ~90%
Put on 20lbs and that 345 will be easy. There is reason why I went up to 220lbs. It has to due with the number of pathways being able to increase with more mass. My form over 385 starts going to absolute garbage, I hit 405 last week though... I usually stop at 375 and just rep it if it's a heavy week. Otherwise I just rep out 225x10x10. I am 100% certain I can cut back down to 200lbs and still pull that much, because I put on a lot of fat during the bulk. The pathways were formed though, so I know I will keep them going and just go for that hypertrophic growth.
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You have an off season right?
Start your bulk at the end of the season and then work it up a little bit at a time to get those pathways going. Then just start cutting early enough while keeping the protein as high as you were on the bulk, and cycle your carbs to get back down to the weight you want to compete at.
There's no reason to limit yourself ever.
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Can only do exercises that do not place any significant amount of stress on my wrist. Thus, bench/OHP and any upper body exercises besides chin-up/rows are out of the picture.
Maybe once I can do everything fully functional, then maybe. Hard to put on proper amounts of mass when you can't seriously exercise the upper part of your body.
But my goal is to stay below 165 at all times while reaching 3xbw dead/2xbw squat/etc. Perhaps allow myself to bulk up to 175, but unlikely.
Great post.
As an aside - I think that Nidstyles means well but I was healthier than 99% of the population when I finished bootcamp and it didn't change my symptoms. Now I'm not so healthy but the symptoms are the same as ever.
But back to your story - I have no intention of using that much. I'm pretty straight-edge and I haven't deviated or even considered deviating from my prescribed dose. I've never smoked a cigarette or done any recreational drugs.
I am glad that you shared your experience however. It gives me a broader perspective. Thank you.
I'm not trying to say you were not healthy. I am trying to say that you should be larger than you are for your stress levels from what you have indicated. More muscle mass allows you to handle higher cortisol levels without it effecting you physically which creates mental issues with focusing. You honestly described exactly what I was going through when I left the Army. Lifting gave me back the body mass to be able to burn through the cortisol and remove stress from my body efficiently.
I'm saying you're hormones are out of whack, and that Adderall will not actually help you in any real fashion. You seem to have already made up your mind and will likely be abusing it soon enough though.
My advice is that you need to read more about how your body actually works before deciding to use those substances. If you want to find a better forum to discuss this topic at length PM me. I have been a member of Bluelight since 2001. I will send you my account info over there and we can discuss this openly with people that understand it far more than myself. My efforts are purely in harm reduction and keeping people away from things that can seriously damage you long term or even kill you.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/
http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/92/9/3553.full
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I've never seen either of these sites before.
He should not be assuming that OP doesn't have ADHD and saying he'll likely be abusing Adderall soon. Plenty of people use it and never abuse it, especially if they're the kind of person to never even try a cigarette. I doubt a lack in muscle mass and a downturn in metabolism is what's causing OP to not be able to focus...
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Thank you.
But come on - I've been very polite about this but he came in here knowing nothing about me except that I took some prescribed adderall and all of a sudden he's diagnosing my problems like some kind of a creepy message board doctor House.
Then he spends the next two pages talking about weight training in a thread about adderall. I tried to be nice to him but he gets in a snit about it and predicts that I'll be abusing prescription meds soon.
In spite of his claims to the contrary I'm thinking that he is most definitely not balanced.
No, like that guy above snickered about Bluelight and harm reduction, you have no idea what you are about to start stuffing into your blood stream, and are telling me that you will not be addicted to the feeling. Every future addict says the same thing. I know because that site I posted works with addicts. I have seen them come and go for over a decade now. I volunteer my time at a clinic to help people that are recovering from addiction to the same drugs you are about to start using. I work with the Salvation Army to help children that grew up in homes with that sort of thing.
Balanced is depending on whether or not you want to suffer the side effects of long term amphetamine use. I'm not balanced but you think a little pill is going to make your life easier. I would rather suck it up and be a man about it and improve myself without using a drug that gives the semblance of improvement. While you talk about being straight edge but only a little drug use...
This thread should have been locked and deleted the day you made it. It doesn't belong on here.
It's obvious you've already made up your mind:
Quoting this to make a point. Any external observer can see what the reaction you had was, and that you already think you need a higher dose.
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You've been going on and on about weight training. It's boring and off-topic. Aside from that you've been contradicting people. You've been accusing and confrontational. You even took a shot at me when we weren't even having a conversation.
I've been trying to let you have your space to talk but you're not using it very well. Your behavior is not good.
Wow, dude. Do you have any medical experience? Are you a licensed psychologist? Judging by you not saying you are yet I'm gonna go with no. Don't come on here practically telling someone that you know better than their doctor does. This guy is not a 12 yr old who got locked in a room while his parents did meth for days on end. This is a grown adult who takes an extremely small dose of a harmless drug if not abused. There have been multiple studies highlighting the benefits of ADHD medications in adults as well as children.
Also, coming in here and practically saying "Bro, do you even lift?" brought me great laughs.
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Died, as in necrosis? Or perforated? (Which is still dangerous and needs to be removed ASAP.)
If you want, just call any stuff that helps with contrasting MRIs or X-rays or whatever "dye" or "stain", because that's essentially what it is.
My friend once had a benign tumor excised from his shoulder. He learned he has a tolerance for painkillers. Not so much of a tolerance for pain.
Well, it would do that to some extent even if it was just water and you thought it was something other than water. The placebo effect is powerful.
It is an environmental factor. But every disorder is on a continuum because everything is an interplay between genes and the environment. (For instance, most cancers are hereditary with the usual caveats for exposure to radon and CO, and certain viruses; but infection is almost entirely environmental, but some genetic variations grant better immunity than others. Diabetes is in-between on this sliding scale.)
What happens when you're diabetic is that your cells start to resist insulin (partially because of how high-carb meals can mess with your insulin levels, and partially because fatty tissue promotes insulin resistance).
In the old days, we called them quacks. Now we call them "integrative". An interesting term. It implies that quacks are under some form of apartheid. (Ironically, the first government-backed SCAM in modern times was the Heilpraktiker movement in Nazi Germany. This isn't a Godwin, just pointing out the irony.)
The difference, of course, being that apartheid doesn't discriminate based on the one thing you're allowed to discriminate based on: Merit. Obviously, getting medicine instead of magnets, crystals, and magic water discriminates based on merit.
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That was good of you. Thank you. The last line was funny but probably not worth saying.
Unfortunately that's the way it'll be for me. I'm taking medicine that some other people like to abuse. No matter what i say i'll sound like i'm denying an addiction. I knew something like this was possible but i've been happy to hear about people's experiences so it's really not a problem.
It's telling what sort of person calls it ADHD medication rather than what it actually is.
The guy already says the dosage is not high enough, and didn't like to come down from it. It's plain as day where I am sitting, you can defend drug abusing behavior all you wish. I will not.
Your sense of humor is rather sad and in poor taste when I was indicating that it was his health that was the problem, not the ability to lift weights. The guy is under weight for a male his height, and likely also has a high fat percentage. Add in sitting at desk for hours on end and you're going to have some issues with properly maintaining hormonal balance. It has nothing to do with psychology, and everything to do with physiology. That you are incapable of distinguishing the two tells me that you are the one that is actually uneducated on this matter.
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you are calling him a future drug addict. you know nothing about him. who are you to throw around baseless accusations? i dont think anyone here is denying the benefits of a healthy lifestyle when it comes to focus and energy. you can not fix every case of ADHD with a correct BMI and excercise, however. but whatever buddy.
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Met with my GP today to talk about it. She says that not everyone has a first day like I had and suggested that I'm sensitive to stimulants. She mentioned that she started me on a low dose and after some discussion she decided that I should try 25 mg instead. (up from 20) We discussed a medication that isn't a stimulant - namely Strattera. She also mentioned that we could schedule an appointment with a psychiatrist. I'll be following up again with her later.
Also a grades update: 100% in Design Principles, 97% in Concepts in Modern Physics.
I average about 93% usually (~3.9 gpa) so there's definitely signs that it's helping.
I've never even heard of exercise and proper diet as a treatment for a psychiatric problem before this thread.
There's a certain degree of genetics denialism within the altmed movement. I've seen it in dietary treatments all around, I've seen it in supplements, I saw it a lot after Angelina Jolie announced her double mastectomy, and I've seen it in alternative psychiatry. Usually diet is explained as the real cause of all disease, and it's especially popular with animal rights groups. While not technically genetics denialism, there were diet-based protocols they used to supposedly cure AIDS; then they became national policy in South Africa and killed more people than the entire apartheid regime.
The worst part of it is when they say mainstream medicine doesn't teach about nutrition. (Oh, geez, I wonder what biochem classes are.) Or doesn't teach prevention (then denounce vaccines). Yeah, so, when someone starts saying dietary changes for something dietary changes clearly won't help, it makes me pull out my bingo card.
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MDs really don't know much about nutrition and the main thing they're trained to do is to prescribe drugs which just mask your symptoms and don't actually "fix" the problem. A few years back I was having various symptoms including palpitations, shortness of breath and fatigue. I had frequent stomach aches as well. When the doctors didn't find anything wrong they told me I had anxiety and wanted to put me on antidepressants which I flat out refused. They were pretty confused and asked: Don't you want to get better? Anyway I decided to see a naturopath that one of my mom's co-worker's recommened and he found the real cause of my problems. I had celiac disease, which coupled with my poor diet resulted in deficiencies of many vitamins and minerals. Needless to say after I stopped eating gluten(wheat) and started taking vitamin supplements and eating better foods my symptoms vanished pretty quickly and have never returned. I still continue to take B-vitamins, magnesium, vitamin C and vitamin D in addition to the mutivitamin plus I eat a better diet and exercise everyday.
The only way I would be caught in a doctor's office or ER today is if I had a fracture or was having a heart attack or stroke. For actual diseases my naturopath is the only person I trust. As far as I'm concerned MDs are the quacks.
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Doctors diagnose celiac disease all the time.
Your experience doesn't indicate anything about the quality of doctors in general. My wife and I can relate to your circumstances. She was misdiagnosed with Chron's disease and a few other things before a smarter physician finally noticed that her gall-bladder was screwed up. You don't need a "naturopath". You just need an expert who isn't an idiot. If your naturopath is well educated and takes good care of you then by all means enjoy your excellent healthcare. Maybe I'd even go to your guy too. I don't care so much about the methods if the results are good.
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Most patients are highly unwilling to make "lifestyle modifications" and continue to make bad health decisions. I can't but be discouraged when my physical therapist friends tell me their patients fail to follow their regimens. As for medications, 50% of patients will stop taking their medications after 1 year. Higher if the medication is taking more than once a day.
As I said earlier in this thread, I am try to get my patients to take the least number of medications possible, but when medications are needed, they should use them properly. Everyone taking a medication should know the medication's name, why they are taking it, how to take it, what strength they are taking, major side effects, and major warning signs. This fact is true if you are taking prescription medications like Adderall, over the counter medications like Tylenol, or supplements like Vitamin E. If you don't know, ask a health professional.
I'm sure there are good doctors out there, ones who think outside the box and actually care about the people they're helping. If I did see a good specialist who was able to figure things out and not have my GP tell me everything is in my head, then I probbably wouldn't have a negative view of doctors. To me they just seemed to give up too quickly and not investigate as much as I think they should have.
I'm not saying that seeing a naturopath is the solution to all of someone's health problems either. The one I'm seeing is good and knows what to look for, but like with every profession there are ones that don't have a clue about anything.
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Not what I was saying. What I was saying is, I see a lot of genetics denialism from them. Diet can't help with ADHD. It would be easy to at least provide circumstantial evidence that diet could, just look at what people with untreated ADHD eat and compare it to the general population. (And if I may borrow a Marxist term, "diet treats everything" strikes me as bourgeois.)
And for the record, we weren't talking about celiac disease, which is a genuine issue in about 1 in 133 Americans. You can test for it, and if it comes back positive, all you have to do is avoid foods containing wheat, barley, rye, oats, and hybrids thereof (e.g., triticale). Note that this is itself fairly easy to do if you avoid processed food.
There's also a cultural appropriation issue, speaking personally, in some of these lists of herbal remedies. No, the Sioux didn't use an herb indigenous to southern China to treat breast cancer or whatever. Yet I see that type of weirdness all the time.
FWIW, I also attack quacks who masquerade as scientific medicine. *waves at Stephen Lewis*
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As a big proponent of evidence based medicine, I try to give recommendations based on the data I have. But as a person who believes in science, I know there are tons of things we do not know. Unfortunately, many of them will never be studied properly. Often because there is little way to make a profit from the research and governments are overspending and cutting research grants. (The looming antibiotic crisis is a key example of this).