The bracers are built well within the rules.
Each bonus runs a price of 62500, so you add three of those up to get 187500. Then, per the stacked effect on one item rule on page 285 of the DMG, you multiply the whole thing by 1.5, giving a total cost of 281250 GP.
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Sep, send me a PM of what you might like and I'll see what I can come up with.
Keeper, you might be better served to find a non-epic D&D game to join first if you don't know what's going on.
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Ti'rin, we had a guy in the campaign before that got his AC up to 100. Jen basically beat him with a stick because the creatures she'd have to make to deal with him would wipe the board with us every single combat.
Also, the story is more involved that we're trying to prevent the release of something that can kill the gods, not actually fighting gods ourselves, so that high of an AC isn't needed.
While we're discussing the AC, is both your armor and shield slot epic? I thought the bonus limit was +5 before they were considered to be on the epic pricing chart. Same thing with the mantle that gives the +7 insight bonus to saves. I believe the limit is + 5 before epic pricing for such bonuses.
Well, let her say something.
Without an outline or even a basic plot premise, new people are going to mistake the title as "we're fighting the gods."
Also, the directions at the beginning are very ambiguous. One person's definition of "stupid" or "broken" is going to be different from another's.
If there's an error in pricing or in bonuses stacking, let me know.
Otherwise, it's not your game and let Avatar tell me that my character has issues, if she indeed feels that my character has these issues.
And yes, all the other epic items meet epic pricing directives, I just forgot to do it with the sword.
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I dont think 3PP is a good idea, a lot of it is broken beyond belief and allowing the BoEF (:rofl:) is just asking for trouble from me OR Ti'rin...if not mechanically then at least in jokes and innuendo.
Besides if i really look im sure i could find some 3PP that caters to Warlocks and has something utterly broken on it
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So you're telling me that you allowed broken items in Flames of War? I had no inclination to that item until I saw it on Yukora's character. If you allow it, you have no call to say that it's broken. Or perhaps this is more of your favoritism showing through. You have no problem with broken items on certain players' characters, but if another player shows the same inclination, you object.
You're right, I admit that was hypocritical of me. I apologize.
But I honestly forgot about Yukora's bracers. I rarely look at my players' character sheets, except for level-ups and secret rolls. In fact, I can't remember the last time I looked at any of the character sheets for Flames.
Anyway, like I said, AoK should rule on them, not me.
Everything scares me... kitties scare me... squirrels scare me... corpses....corpses bring forth a pletora of confusing feeling which i prefer not to dwell on...:p
So if you agree that Avatar should rule on them, why are you attempting to interject your opinion on them?
That's hypocritical as well, because you booted me from Flames of War for the same behavior.
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Do we put the word "the" in front of God?
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I was just saying that they seemed a little crazy to me. I didn't say "Change them or Jen will surely kick you out!"
I was just stating my opinion. Not being argumentative or anything.
PS. If you want to know the basic storyline of Godslayer, I'm pretty sure the original still hasn't been retired. I was reading it the other day, and it's great.
Everything scares me... kitties scare me... squirrels scare me... corpses....corpses bring forth a pletora of confusing feeling which i prefer not to dwell on...:p
AC 100? hmmm i only have like 40+ right now... im doing something wrong aint I? When it comes to epic i really screw up the items...
I have 42. That is along the unoptimized AC you get.
About Ti'rin's character. Well. It's nothing Disjunction won't fix. Or a death spell, or a grappler, or heck.. Forcecage + Cloudkill.
Where is Multiaction from, however, Ti'rin? Couldn't find it from the SRD/Draconomicon/ELH.
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I suppose it's true. Though the logistics implied in a human/Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon pairing makes me shudder.
...Something tells me that even should all arcane casters in the world unite, that the Grease spell would NOT be sufficient.
@ Amadi: If I remember correctly, Multiaction allows a character to take an additional swift action per turn, instead of just one. If that is the case, I really, really want to take it.
Everything scares me... kitties scare me... squirrels scare me... corpses....corpses bring forth a pletora of confusing feeling which i prefer not to dwell on...:p
AoK since we are talking about custom items did you check the two items i made and linked to in post 59? Yay or Nay? and if Yay how much would you say?
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Amadi, Avatar granted Multiaction as a feat option for those who can use swift actions to do quite a bit (like a Swordsage). It's like Multispell and back on the first or second page of this thread.
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Do we put the word "the" in front of God?
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Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.
And yes, no incantatrix for you. Or anyone. That class makes puppies cry. Mostly because they are the former Big Bads who have been Baleful Polymorphed into said puppies. By you. Because you're an incantatrix.
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Remember, the girl that just killed an aspect of herself before literally consuming her?
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There are only so many epic, psuedonatural barbarian/blackguard half-dragon akutenshai vampire balor paragons they can throw at you, right?
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I suppose it's true. Though the logistics implied in a human/Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon pairing makes me shudder.
...Something tells me that even should all arcane casters in the world unite, that the Grease spell would NOT be sufficient.
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Well, let her say something.
Without an outline or even a basic plot premise, new people are going to mistake the title as "we're fighting the gods."
Also, the directions at the beginning are very ambiguous. One person's definition of "stupid" or "broken" is going to be different from another's.
If there's an error in pricing or in bonuses stacking, let me know.
Otherwise, it's not your game and let Avatar tell me that my character has issues, if she indeed feels that my character has these issues.
And yes, all the other epic items meet epic pricing directives, I just forgot to do it with the sword.
Hey, I wasn't trying to say you can't do this/it's unfair/whatever, I was just trying to let you know what the precedent/nutshell storyline was.
I'm just trying to give you a veteran of this particular campaign's perspective. If it's unwelcome, then I apologize. I wasn't trying to tick you off.
A veteran player is going to have a bias and their perspective is just as suspect as a new player to the campaign-verse.
The only person I want to hear premise from and more direct campaign perspective from is the person who designed it--Avatar of Kokusho.
Other players can object to items based on the item creation formulae and rules in the books. Anything further, like whether or not the DM will restrict the item or not allow a certain stacked build, is beyond their purview and annoys the crap out of me.
My character's AC is perfectly legal within the formulae of the books.
If Avatar won't allow some of the items because of her personal taste, that's something else entirely and should only be told by her. Otherwise it's simply speculation that can be argued with.
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Someone once asked me why, when I talk about House Dimir, I don't put the word "the" in front of it.
At the time, I had no answer, but it just came to me.
Do we put the word "the" in front of God?
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Stupidity cannot be tolerated. Idiots thrive on the indulgence of society's "understanding."
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PUPPIES AND BUNNIES!!
A Storyteller is not a GM. A GM is God. God is one of the Storyteller's little minions.
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Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.
A veteran player is going to have a bias and their perspective is just as suspect as a new player to the campaign-verse.
The only person I want to hear premise from and more direct campaign perspective from is the person who designed it--Avatar of Kokusho.
Other players can object to items based on the item creation formulae and rules in the books. Anything further, like whether or not the DM will restrict the item or not allow a certain stacked build, is beyond their purview and annoys the crap out of me.
My character's AC is perfectly legal within the formulae of the books.
If Avatar won't allow some of the items because of her personal taste, that's something else entirely and should only be told by her. Otherwise it's simply speculation that can be argued with.
Alright. I was just trying to help, and I'm sorry if that ended up annoying you.
Also, since you mentioned that the criteria Jen posted was vague, I did some digging and found the original character creation thread. It may have something in there that you could ask Jen abut, if you feel so inclined.
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Each bonus runs a price of 62500, so you add three of those up to get 187500. Then, per the stacked effect on one item rule on page 285 of the DMG, you multiply the whole thing by 1.5, giving a total cost of 281250 GP.
Someone once asked me why, when I talk about House Dimir, I don't put the word "the" in front of it.
At the time, I had no answer, but it just came to me.
Do we put the word "the" in front of God? A Storyteller is not a GM. A GM is God. God is one of the Storyteller's little minions.
Either way im sitting on 2.180 millions and have no clue wat to make
with that knowledge, can anyone explain this to me and may I take part?
Keeper, you might be better served to find a non-epic D&D game to join first if you don't know what's going on.
Someone once asked me why, when I talk about House Dimir, I don't put the word "the" in front of it.
At the time, I had no answer, but it just came to me.
Do we put the word "the" in front of God? A Storyteller is not a GM. A GM is God. God is one of the Storyteller's little minions.
Also any possibility of getting either of the items posted here? (Items still lacking Price though so any help there is appreciated)
Also, the story is more involved that we're trying to prevent the release of something that can kill the gods, not actually fighting gods ourselves, so that high of an AC isn't needed.
While we're discussing the AC, is both your armor and shield slot epic? I thought the bonus limit was +5 before they were considered to be on the epic pricing chart. Same thing with the mantle that gives the +7 insight bonus to saves. I believe the limit is + 5 before epic pricing for such bonuses.
Without an outline or even a basic plot premise, new people are going to mistake the title as "we're fighting the gods."
Also, the directions at the beginning are very ambiguous. One person's definition of "stupid" or "broken" is going to be different from another's.
If there's an error in pricing or in bonuses stacking, let me know.
Otherwise, it's not your game and let Avatar tell me that my character has issues, if she indeed feels that my character has these issues.
And yes, all the other epic items meet epic pricing directives, I just forgot to do it with the sword.
Someone once asked me why, when I talk about House Dimir, I don't put the word "the" in front of it.
At the time, I had no answer, but it just came to me.
Do we put the word "the" in front of God? A Storyteller is not a GM. A GM is God. God is one of the Storyteller's little minions.
Besides if i really look im sure i could find some 3PP that caters to Warlocks and has something utterly broken on it
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You're right, I admit that was hypocritical of me. I apologize.
But I honestly forgot about Yukora's bracers. I rarely look at my players' character sheets, except for level-ups and secret rolls. In fact, I can't remember the last time I looked at any of the character sheets for Flames.
Anyway, like I said, AoK should rule on them, not me.
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That's hypocritical as well, because you booted me from Flames of War for the same behavior.
Someone once asked me why, when I talk about House Dimir, I don't put the word "the" in front of it.
At the time, I had no answer, but it just came to me.
Do we put the word "the" in front of God? A Storyteller is not a GM. A GM is God. God is one of the Storyteller's little minions.
I was just stating my opinion. Not being argumentative or anything.
PS. If you want to know the basic storyline of Godslayer, I'm pretty sure the original still hasn't been retired. I was reading it the other day, and it's great.
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I have 42. That is along the unoptimized AC you get.
About Ti'rin's character. Well. It's nothing Disjunction won't fix. Or a death spell, or a grappler, or heck.. Forcecage + Cloudkill.
Where is Multiaction from, however, Ti'rin? Couldn't find it from the SRD/Draconomicon/ELH.
and acts without effort.
Teaching without verbosity,
producing without possessing,
creating without regard to result,
claiming nothing,
the Sage has nothing to lose.
First, I'll be adjudicating custom items, so random discussion of their legality is kind of pointless.
Second, epic is good. Broken in half is NOT good. I trust you all know the difference.... if not, well, then I'll teach you.
Third, this game is not for those new to epic. Sorry.
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Someone once asked me why, when I talk about House Dimir, I don't put the word "the" in front of it.
At the time, I had no answer, but it just came to me.
Do we put the word "the" in front of God? A Storyteller is not a GM. A GM is God. God is one of the Storyteller's little minions.
Multiaction is as described; useful, no? Before anyone asks, NO, you can't take it and Multispell.
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DMM Quicken / Ruby Knight Vindicator / Extra Turnings / Nightsticks?
6 Turn attempts: Get a swift action. Use that swift action to cast quickened spell.
and acts without effort.
Teaching without verbosity,
producing without possessing,
creating without regard to result,
claiming nothing,
the Sage has nothing to lose.
Hey, I wasn't trying to say you can't do this/it's unfair/whatever, I was just trying to let you know what the precedent/nutshell storyline was.
I'm just trying to give you a veteran of this particular campaign's perspective. If it's unwelcome, then I apologize. I wasn't trying to tick you off.
The only person I want to hear premise from and more direct campaign perspective from is the person who designed it--Avatar of Kokusho.
Other players can object to items based on the item creation formulae and rules in the books. Anything further, like whether or not the DM will restrict the item or not allow a certain stacked build, is beyond their purview and annoys the crap out of me.
My character's AC is perfectly legal within the formulae of the books.
If Avatar won't allow some of the items because of her personal taste, that's something else entirely and should only be told by her. Otherwise it's simply speculation that can be argued with.
Someone once asked me why, when I talk about House Dimir, I don't put the word "the" in front of it.
At the time, I had no answer, but it just came to me.
Do we put the word "the" in front of God? A Storyteller is not a GM. A GM is God. God is one of the Storyteller's little minions.
Also, since you mentioned that the criteria Jen posted was vague, I did some digging and found the original character creation thread. It may have something in there that you could ask Jen abut, if you feel so inclined.