2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
But Legendary samurai was terrible Iso, requiring people to be lynched twice for them to be actually lynched was like the worst idea ever, I expected never to see that again since it was one of the reasons for that game to turn into a festival of lurkers.
I don't like to say bad stuff about games that haven't even finished, but since everyone is doing there's no need to hold back... I think this game will play terrible since it does mix a lot of bad ideas together: twice to lynch, random lynching, multiple accounts to play (everyone who has played with a gimmick know how prone to error and tiring this become eventually), way too many players.
At least ZDS reviewed it so it's probably balanced.
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2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
That had nothing to do with why people were lurking.
Agreed. Lurkers were lurking because it was on a site that most were not use too and therefore weren't checking it as often. That and RL got in the way for some others as well.
I suggest that those that know from themselves that they will lose interest and stop being committed when rules go awkward stay away from this one so that those of us who are in it for the fun can keep on having fun.
No need for a second Ultimate Showdown.
We brought up the single vs. double lynching issue, obviously, in design. I'll bring it up with Tanarin, but that QT issue is the only big thing that could warrant changing, IMO.
We need to stop with this setup discussion. The reviewers reviewed the game and deemed it acceptable for this site. Anyone who has questioned the game mechanic is also hindering the chances of this game launching. Looking at some of the responses gets this point across.
Please trust the reviewers on this site. They were approved to be a reviewer for a reason.
Not to speak out of turn, but for those concerned about lurking, that's a natural hazard of hydra games in general. Look at the 2-headed game that ran on GGery in the past year. They had rampant lurking due to the diffusion of responsibility.
If you're interested in this game, it's the players that have the responsibility to stay engaged. I don't think it's the double lynch that will affect which players live up to their commitment.
@GD/Tan: If you do open a spec thread, please invite me.
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I remember another game ZDS modded being alluded to that had a similar "two lives" mechanic, I think it was Family Mafia?
I think that game was generally regarded as an experimental failure.
That was mostly a failure because the Mafia kill only took away one life. If it had taken two lives (i.e. outright killed a player) the game would have been fairer (since the Mafia match the town's killing power, and don't confirm people as town by NKing them), but we didn't think of that until it was too late.
If I may say something I thought about that may allieviate some.
The only thing I mentioned was what most people had problems with which was using a seperate account with a QT.
I have worked as a hydra as town and scum. I won as scum and I was killed night 1 as town. That was how strong the 2 of us worked together. (I worked with 2 different people in both games). Hydra's help either side.
That said I saw some mention about the lyncing of a player you still think is scum and them being alive. I don't think anyone thought about the other side of the coin where scum shoots a strong player and that player is not only alive but now considered town by all accounts.
With the bad there is good and vis versa.
I trust the reviews I just thought it would be a pain to log into and out of a QT with someone you are aligned with.
That said no matter how you decide to go with the QT G_D I would like to just specate.
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mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Right?
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
What about that?
Legendary Samurai Mafia would have gone fine if not for all of the lurkers and you had to lynch scum twice in that game, too.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't like to say bad stuff about games that haven't even finished, but since everyone is doing there's no need to hold back... I think this game will play terrible since it does mix a lot of bad ideas together: twice to lynch, random lynching, multiple accounts to play (everyone who has played with a gimmick know how prone to error and tiring this become eventually), way too many players.
At least ZDS reviewed it so it's probably balanced.
Mythic rarity is not destroying the game. People whine too much for no good reason. Magic is more popular than ever, so keep calm, brew some decks and play some damn cards.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Agreed. Lurkers were lurking because it was on a site that most were not use too and therefore weren't checking it as often. That and RL got in the way for some others as well.
No need for a second Ultimate Showdown.
*sees nothing*
We brought up the single vs. double lynching issue, obviously, in design. I'll bring it up with Tanarin, but that QT issue is the only big thing that could warrant changing, IMO.
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I think that game was generally regarded as an experimental failure.
Please trust the reviewers on this site. They were approved to be a reviewer for a reason.
If you're interested in this game, it's the players that have the responsibility to stay engaged. I don't think it's the double lynch that will affect which players live up to their commitment.
@GD/Tan: If you do open a spec thread, please invite me.
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That was mostly a failure because the Mafia kill only took away one life. If it had taken two lives (i.e. outright killed a player) the game would have been fairer (since the Mafia match the town's killing power, and don't confirm people as town by NKing them), but we didn't think of that until it was too late.
The only thing I mentioned was what most people had problems with which was using a seperate account with a QT.
I have worked as a hydra as town and scum. I won as scum and I was killed night 1 as town. That was how strong the 2 of us worked together. (I worked with 2 different people in both games). Hydra's help either side.
That said I saw some mention about the lyncing of a player you still think is scum and them being alive. I don't think anyone thought about the other side of the coin where scum shoots a strong player and that player is not only alive but now considered town by all accounts.
With the bad there is good and vis versa.
I trust the reviews I just thought it would be a pain to log into and out of a QT with someone you are aligned with.
That said no matter how you decide to go with the QT G_D I would like to just specate.
Thanks
mafia win/lose record
town (12) 6/6
mafia (2) 2/0
Cult (1) 1/0
3rd party (0) 0/0
mafia record
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If this runs, put me on /replace; I'll probably have more time when someone needs replacement.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Something has got to give.
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