2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Supposing your scum, you clearly don't get a single kill every 4 nights. I have seen a poisoner act as essentially a mafia tough guy shot, it would make sense that that would be limited.
If I had to pick your buddy, it would probably be BE2. I really just need to look over the game in general, but I need EP to be clear with his claimed alignment.
Who would be your top two picks for scum? And really? You think people aren't skeptical of a couple neutrals with killing abilities in a 12 player game?
Yeah, what I'm asking is: Where is the kill if I'm scum?
I think non-Iso people in this game are entitled to be skeptical of claimed Neutrals with killing abilities, particularly considering we've already had one flip. But that doesn't mean I can't insist you're barking up the wrong tree, seeing as I know the contents of my role PM and can only correlate them to you through paraphrasing. I still think there's a strong possibility of a Cult.
As for the person I think that's most likely to be scum based on a combination of behavior and role: Proph. Role alone might suggest Seppel, though not necessarily with each other. I could buy Huntzilla as a follow-up. I mean, why would the game have a Cop AND a Gunsmith, y'know?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Let's be fair though, a gunsmith with this set-up is ******* terrible. I went into the role thinking I was a cop, but a potential vig would create a false positive. Not only are there multiple people who could get a kill, a person with it is apparently immune. I can also only fire once per 4 days.
This game in general is making my head hurt. I also don't know how Proph could be scum. That would mean two non-town roles have resistance to the town's primary weapon? Seems ridiculous.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
And he's like some sort of reverse-CL, where he recruits by being targeted.
Obviously I disagree.
However, I have been thinking about whether lynching me Today would be a good play:
No one else is likely to target me (except with a kill I guess), and Huntzilla is not likely to do anything worth watching
Kills will be prevented Tonight
Huntzilla will be more or less cleared
Aids process of elimination
I am having a hard time maintaining interest in this game (no offense to any of you or the mods), compounded by the fact that I do not have much of an idea what the **** is going on or how to sort it out
We will not have the opportunity to do this later
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I am shooting Iso toNight. As evidenced by his play the last day or so, he needs me dead; he will try to get me killed one way or another. I feel wasting a lynch on him today is not worthwhile... unless he actually dies, that would be great.
I am shooting Iso toNight. As evidenced by his play the last day or so, he needs me dead; he will try to get me killed one way or another. I feel wasting a lynch on him today is not worthwhile... unless he actually dies, that would be great.
You still haven't explained to me how this is at all a town mindset. "Iso wants me dead, so we have to kill him."
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If there are two scum, then voting Iso is a waste of time because if he isn't lying about his unlynchability it would take us to night and the end game.
OceanBlack was a Hitman who could kill every Night, because his win condition was difficult to achieve.
I'm a Hitman who can only Poison once every 4 phases, because my win condition is much easier to achieve, assuming there are only 1 or 2 other face cards - at this point, I'm hedging my bets on Johnny being the last one after Hunt.
There are two mafia, but they can't kill every Night (Hunt's role is their killing ability) because the Hitmen clear out the game for them.
Plus, there's B_E's ability, so it makes no sense that the town would also have a Vig, and it makes no sense that we would have a Gunsmith AND a Cop.
Follow me, guys! I have found the way! Lynch Huntzilla for great justice.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I am shooting Iso toNight. As evidenced by his play the last day or so, he needs me dead; he will try to get me killed one way or another. I feel wasting a lynch on him today is not worthwhile... unless he actually dies, that would be great.
You still haven't explained to me how this is at all a town mindset. "Iso wants me dead, so we have to kill him."
That's like, "Survivalist Scum 101" in a post.
Yes it could be Survivalist 101, or it could simply be Power Role 101. At this point I think I would be of more use to us alive than to let you kill me. Since you need me dead for your wincon, I obviously cannot trust you. That simple. You can try to spin it whatever way you want to, but the bottom line is I am town, and you are neutral. You need to die, not me.
Also, if that wasn't enough, you have started to push hard for me as "scum" now, so let's discuss why that might be. Oh, that's right, because you know you are going to die! So you are trying to save your skin and get your wincon fulfilled. No way will that happen.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
"so obviously broken"? What exactly are you basing that assumption on, in a game chock-full of power and 2 Neutrals with a means of killing?
Huh, I thought I responded to this.
Cults (the alignment changing one) are by their nature very powerful, swingy, and cause severe balancing issues, as well as harm the town's behavioral analysis. I've never come across one in a "serious" game, I think. I highly doubt that Cantrip would put us in the deep end and put a cult in the setup and use massive town power to balance it out. You should know this! Cults would never get pass a reviewer on MTGS.
"so obviously broken"? What exactly are you basing that assumption on, in a game chock-full of power and 2 Neutrals with a means of killing?
Huh, I thought I responded to this.
Cults (the alignment changing one) are by their nature very powerful, swingy, and cause severe balancing issues, as well as harm the town's behavioral analysis. I've never come across one in a "serious" game, I think. I highly doubt that Cantrip would put us in the deep end and put a cult in the setup and use massive town power to balance it out. You should know this! Cults would never get pass a reviewer on MTGS.
I would totally allow a Cult if I thought we could get away with it. Also, in the instance that a Cult Leader's death would result in an un-Culting of all Culted players, I could totally believe it.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
What's the benefit to the cult then to not just speak up and say SO and SO is the cult leader in order to get themselves unculted? Would they not know the leader?
If that's the case, anyone who has been culted should speak up and let us know when they were "changed"... then we can track it backwards since we know a good deal of night actions.
Huntzilla: We're only speculating at this point. Just because Iso talked about a possible cult leader variant doesn't mean that it's in the game.
Iso: Well, I disagree - I'm in the camp that alignment-changing cults should never be used. - this discussion is pretty pointless. It's kind of funny that this is the same useless conversation from Dr. Polyopticon, though (where we speculated on cults).
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We really need BE here to figure this out, though I just checked and BE /did/ claim before Iso.
I'm fine following Huntzilla's plan or whatever and lynching behaviorally most scummiest and having Hunt vig Iso @ night.
What's the benefit to the cult then to not just speak up and say SO and SO is the cult leader in order to get themselves unculted? Would they not know the leader?
If that's the case, anyone who has been culted should speak up and let us know when they were "changed"... then we can track it backwards since we know a good deal of night actions.
We don't know that they would, or even how the Cult would exist, were it to be so. I can't speculate further with my information.
Iso: Well, I disagree - I'm in the camp that alignment-changing cults should never be used. - this discussion is pretty pointless. It's kind of funny that this is the same useless conversation from Dr. Polyopticon, though (where we speculated on cults).
Well, you're still wrong and we should still lynch Hunt.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
What's the benefit to the cult then to not just speak up and say SO and SO is the cult leader in order to get themselves unculted? Would they not know the leader?
If that's the case, anyone who has been culted should speak up and let us know when they were "changed"... then we can track it backwards since we know a good deal of night actions.
If that is not explicitly against the rules, then it is at least very much against the spirit of the game; that would be playing against their current win condition.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Even with E_P's role reveal, you think he can be scum?
Seems to be a crafty role for a scum fakeclaim. Notice that it has all alignment-relevant parts edited out - it's possible that there can be some sort of factional ability or something.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Iso: I know this is bordering on modgaming, but why would Cantrip add the confirm ability if the role wasn't on scum? A one-shot triple Watch should be "townie" enough.
@Iso: I know this is bordering on modgaming, but why would Cantrip add the confirm ability if the role wasn't on scum? A one-shot triple Watch should be "townie" enough.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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Two questions:
I only get one kill every 4 Nights, which doesn't even trigger until the end of the next Day?
Who's my buddy?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If I had to pick your buddy, it would probably be BE2. I really just need to look over the game in general, but I need EP to be clear with his claimed alignment.
Who would be your top two picks for scum? And really? You think people aren't skeptical of a couple neutrals with killing abilities in a 12 player game?
The GJ way path to no lynching:
I think non-Iso people in this game are entitled to be skeptical of claimed Neutrals with killing abilities, particularly considering we've already had one flip. But that doesn't mean I can't insist you're barking up the wrong tree, seeing as I know the contents of my role PM and can only correlate them to you through paraphrasing. I still think there's a strong possibility of a Cult.
As for the person I think that's most likely to be scum based on a combination of behavior and role: Proph. Role alone might suggest Seppel, though not necessarily with each other. I could buy Huntzilla as a follow-up. I mean, why would the game have a Cop AND a Gunsmith, y'know?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I now think Smoke is the last neutral.
And he's like some sort of reverse-CL, where he recruits by being targeted.
This game in general is making my head hurt. I also don't know how Proph could be scum. That would mean two non-town roles have resistance to the town's primary weapon? Seems ridiculous.
The GJ way path to no lynching:
Hunt + smoke scumteam?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Unvote, Vote Hunt
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Yes
That is not what he said though?
Not sure why you feel the need to try so hard to find a reason to vote for him. Why were you not already?
Obviously I disagree.
However, I have been thinking about whether lynching me Today would be a good play:
No one else is likely to target me (except with a kill I guess), and Huntzilla is not likely to do anything worth watching
Kills will be prevented Tonight
Huntzilla will be more or less cleared
Aids process of elimination
I am having a hard time maintaining interest in this game (no offense to any of you or the mods), compounded by the fact that I do not have much of an idea what the **** is going on or how to sort it out
We will not have the opportunity to do this later
What do you guys think?
smoke_Killah
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If it's the former, why do you believe so considering that a cult of that variety is so obviously broken?
VOTE: Iso
smoke_Killah
Would like to finalize night actions before we lynch Iso.
Hunt: If we lynch Iso and he's lynchproof, are you going to shoot me or Iso Tonight?
"so obviously broken"? What exactly are you basing that assumption on, in a game chock-full of power and 2 Neutrals with a means of killing?
You still haven't explained to me how this is at all a town mindset. "Iso wants me dead, so we have to kill him."
That's like, "Survivalist Scum 101" in a post.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If there are two scum, then voting Iso is a waste of time because if he isn't lying about his unlynchability it would take us to night and the end game.
GUYS
I FIGURED IT OUT
okay, so, look
OceanBlack was a Hitman who could kill every Night, because his win condition was difficult to achieve.
I'm a Hitman who can only Poison once every 4 phases, because my win condition is much easier to achieve, assuming there are only 1 or 2 other face cards - at this point, I'm hedging my bets on Johnny being the last one after Hunt.
There are two mafia, but they can't kill every Night (Hunt's role is their killing ability) because the Hitmen clear out the game for them.
Plus, there's B_E's ability, so it makes no sense that the town would also have a Vig, and it makes no sense that we would have a Gunsmith AND a Cop.
Follow me, guys! I have found the way! Lynch Huntzilla for great justice.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
There are like 40 protective roles in the game, which is far more suspicious than the killing roles.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The GJ way path to no lynching:
2
3 - Me
4 - OB
5 - Proph
6
7 - KA
8 - g_d
9 - GJ
10 - s_k
J - Hunt
Q - Iso
K
Anyone want to fill in what's missing? I think it's just BF, Seppel, and BE2. I don't think BF claimed.
I'm 2 btw.
Yes it could be Survivalist 101, or it could simply be Power Role 101. At this point I think I would be of more use to us alive than to let you kill me. Since you need me dead for your wincon, I obviously cannot trust you. That simple. You can try to spin it whatever way you want to, but the bottom line is I am town, and you are neutral. You need to die, not me.
Also, if that wasn't enough, you have started to push hard for me as "scum" now, so let's discuss why that might be. Oh, that's right, because you know you are going to die! So you are trying to save your skin and get your wincon fulfilled. No way will that happen.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Cults (the alignment changing one) are by their nature very powerful, swingy, and cause severe balancing issues, as well as harm the town's behavioral analysis. I've never come across one in a "serious" game, I think. I highly doubt that Cantrip would put us in the deep end and put a cult in the setup and use massive town power to balance it out. You should know this! Cults would never get pass a reviewer on MTGS.
BE needs to respond with his number or whatever.
I would totally allow a Cult if I thought we could get away with it. Also, in the instance that a Cult Leader's death would result in an un-Culting of all Culted players, I could totally believe it.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If that's the case, anyone who has been culted should speak up and let us know when they were "changed"... then we can track it backwards since we know a good deal of night actions.
Iso: Well, I disagree - I'm in the camp that alignment-changing cults should never be used. - this discussion is pretty pointless. It's kind of funny that this is the same useless conversation from Dr. Polyopticon, though (where we speculated on cults).
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We really need BE here to figure this out, though I just checked and BE /did/ claim before Iso.
I'm fine following Huntzilla's plan or whatever and lynching behaviorally most scummiest and having Hunt vig Iso @ night.
We don't know that they would, or even how the Cult would exist, were it to be so. I can't speculate further with my information.
Well, you're still wrong and we should still lynch Hunt.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
If that is not explicitly against the rules, then it is at least very much against the spirit of the game; that would be playing against their current win condition.
Who would you say that is?
smoke_Killah
Just can't remember much of they've done.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
And why should I care that you'll be dead?
/barn
I simply can't buy that Proph thinks EP's ability isn't town.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
"Hey guise, I can Watch 3 people at Night"
"yeah fukken rite die scum"
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The GJ way path to no lynching:
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player