Your post is so ridiculous it is physically impossible for me to take it seriously.
I obviously should have countered Chris's RB claim day 1.
Wait
I'm sorry it was a bit off the cuff, I apologize for that. Point is, you didn't have to say anything about your role to say you got blocked as well. There was literally no risk and you were hiding info from town. I think part of the problem here might just be what Iso pointed out, so see below.
RE: plum's #1191, point #3: Do you recall the horn that sounded in the middle of the Night on Night 1? I'd guess a multi-blocker of some sort was responsible for that.
I had forgotten about that. However, how were you not blocked then if that was the case? And the silence wasn't blocked either.
@Hunger: I disagree with #1238 on your analysis of plum's reaction to Chris. If anything, that reads more like "I got Roleblocked but don't want to out the fact that I'm annoyed I got Roleblocked." In your opinion, why would an information role say, "I got Roleblocked"? In plum's meta, it's entirely possible that only power roles receive Roleblock notifications.
That's fair actually. I never said he should have claimed power, just that he was targeted by a block. If plum was of the mindset you only get roleblock notification for being power, that could be what the misunderstanding is and why he is insisting I said he should claim power when I didn't. It's even possible that's how it works in this game. In my experience, when I have been blocked as vanilla, I still receive notification so that is where I was coming from.
@plum - Is this where your issue lies? Are you of the mindset that only power would be notified of being roleblocked?
Seppel's #1165 rubs me the wrong way. I don't see townSeppel going along with a "pretend Masons" gambit.
KCC's #1171 made me
So did Megiddo's #1183.
RE: plum's #1191, point #3: Do you recall the horn that sounded in the middle of the Night on Night 1? I'd guess a multi-blocker of some sort was responsible for that.
Seppel's #1204 is probably a scum claim. Let's lynch Seppel.
Vote Seppel
@Mejjidodo: Yes, I was V/LA from Friday-Monday.
#1227 apparently means Hunger is also scum.
And now #1237 has me scumreading Cyan. Why can't ONE of you act like a goddamn townie for a Day? I'm gonna pull a page from the Wheat_Grinder School of Mafia and perform a Cyanity check: Cyan, in past games, have you not expressed more disbelief towards players that claimed limited-shot roles vs. fully functional roles?
@Hunger: I disagree with #1238 on your analysis of plum's reaction to Chris. If anything, that reads more like "I got Roleblocked but don't want to out the fact that I'm annoyed I got Roleblocked." In your opinion, why would an information role say, "I got Roleblocked"? In plum's meta, it's entirely possible that only power roles receive Roleblock notifications.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Iso: I don't know, and I don't understand why it matters. I claimed the role I was given. I'll never be the one to try to 'adjust' my town claim to fit better with outside circumstances.
@Iso: I don't know, and I don't understand why it matters. I claimed the role I was given. I'll never be the one to try to 'adjust' my town claim to fit better with outside circumstances.
I'm pretty sure Iso was asking why, of the two investigative roles, you're suspicious of the full tracker, over the 1-shot cop.
I already explained why I completely believe Iso's claim. I will literally go to my grave believing that claim. Like if Iso is somehow scum and the game comes down to me, him, and anyone that isn't Megiddo, I will vote for that other person without thinking twice about it. There is simply no way that he faked all of that. It's too genuine.
And it's not at all impossible for MP to be scum. I think that he is mafia godfather and Seppel is..whatever who knows. Mafia of some other variety. Nothing else really makes sense to me.
Honestly, I would rather lynch MP today, because I am MORE convinced that he is scum than Seppel, and have been convinced of this for literally the ENTIRE GAME. But I know other people aren't going to go along with it because of the situation with Seppel, and I'm sure that Seppel is also scum anyway so, resolving it today isn't really a big deal. I'll worry about it tomorrow when MP is still conveniently alive and still has no relevant tracking result to provide.
I already explained why I completely believe Iso's claim. I will literally go to my grave believing that claim. Like if Iso is somehow scum and the game comes down to me, him, and anyone that isn't Megiddo, I will vote for that other person without thinking twice about it. There is simply no way that he faked all of that. It's too genuine.
And it's not at all impossible for MP to be scum. I think that he is mafia godfather and Seppel is..whatever who knows. Mafia of some other variety. Nothing else really makes sense to me.
Honestly, I would rather lynch MP today, because I am MORE convinced that he is scum than Seppel, and have been convinced of this for literally the ENTIRE GAME. But I know other people aren't going to go along with it because of the situation with Seppel, and I'm sure that Seppel is also scum anyway so, resolving it today isn't really a big deal. I'll worry about it tomorrow when MP is still conveniently alive and still has no relevant tracking result to provide.
I already explained why I completely believe Iso's claim. I will literally go to my grave believing that claim. Like if Iso is somehow scum and the game comes down to me, him, and anyone that isn't Megiddo, I will vote for that other person without thinking twice about it. There is simply no way that he faked all of that. It's too genuine.
And it's not at all impossible for MP to be scum. I think that he is mafia godfather and Seppel is..whatever who knows. Mafia of some other variety. Nothing else really makes sense to me.
Honestly, I would rather lynch MP today, because I am MORE convinced that he is scum than Seppel, and have been convinced of this for literally the ENTIRE GAME. But I know other people aren't going to go along with it because of the situation with Seppel, and I'm sure that Seppel is also scum anyway so, resolving it today isn't really a big deal. I'll worry about it tomorrow when MP is still conveniently alive and still has no relevant tracking result to provide.
How can you justify a Godfather with my role existing as it does?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Iso: At first I was thinking that could work out, but yeah I guess that would be more cumbersome than I thought. Well, I have no idea whatsoever whom Seppel's scum buddy is then. Fortunately, that is tomorrow's problem.
Cyan has been claiming to believe / disbelieve a lot of ridiculously improbable things, but whenever anyone even mentions Iso's ability, Cyan is on damage control like a stingray on Steve Irwin.
Cyan has been claiming to believe / disbelieve a lot of ridiculously improbable things, but whenever anyone even mentions Iso's ability, Cyan is on damage control like a stingray on Steve Irwin.
I don't have any issue with KCC's claim either. Shocking, when people are A)very town behaviorally and/or B)their claim lines up with said behavior, I don't take any issue with their claims. But when their behavior sucks and their claim doesn't help them, I want to lynch them.
Because you are a shining beacon of town compared to half the game. Somehow you have not managed the claim that your claim was a joke after getting countered, or use an anti town role day one, or believe a role can't exist because the game ends day two while simultaneously believing a different role that ends the game day two, or quote pages of text that directly support the opposite argument you are trying to make.
Somehow you have managed to do any of those things. By this games standards that is a minor miracle.
why is nobody mad at me for doing jack all so far Today?
I am, but I'm too busy trying to get actual scum lynched to scold you for sitting around durdling. But since you bring it up, feel free to be more actively involved in the game, seriously.
The other one is probably Hunger or Antny because I don't remember a damn thing they've done.
... The other one?
Seppel is pretending he is town who is paying so little attention to the game that he didn't realize we lynched scum Yesterday. -Despite paying enough attention to give detailed feedback on Cyan's interactions with Iso. And despite having a similar conversation with meg just a few days ago.
why is nobody mad at me for doing jack all so far Today?
Well, as confirmed town, you can pretty much do whatever you want. Plus, there's really not much to do here anyway, since it's fairly obvious who the scum are at this point. Other than, you know, the actual lynching part, if you want to use those votes of yours.
Cyan has been claiming to believe / disbelieve a lot of ridiculously improbable things, but whenever anyone even mentions Iso's ability, Cyan is on damage control like a stingray on Steve Irwin.
"damage control"
Do you even know what my role is, without looking it up?
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It bothers me immensely that Masterplum and Cythare are the two unknown factors not voting Seppel. Not only that, they're not voting anyone. They've both taken plenty of pot shots at me, so at the very least, I would expect them to be voting accordingly. But they're not. And they've been in a similar pattern since..ever. They both were the last to vote on the Huntzilla wagon. They've been my top scum reads for the entire game. Their claims are questionable at best. Their behavior is worse.
Plus, look at the final vote count for Huntzilla.
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Huntzilla (6): KittyCupCake, Iso, Megiddo, Sir Chris, Antny 223, Masterplum
2 people that are incredibly likely to be town, 2 confirmed town, and...Antny and MP. There has to be scum somewhere on this wagon. There just has to. They were the last 2 people to vote KJ also, which completely has the feel of 'resigned scum bussing their buddy to avoid looking suspicious for not being involved in the wagon' feel to it.
I'm going back to my game long scum reads here. Which means that Seppel is just being..Seppel. And we can have words about that after the game. But for now, MP/Antny is just a better place to be. If you guys re-read the game, I think that you will pretty easily come to the same conclusion. Unvote, Vote masterplum
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, there doesn't HAVE to have been scum on the Huntzilla wagon - it's just extremely improbable from a statistical standpoint that there weren't. But I've seen it happen, and so have you, more than once.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
So Killjoy spends 2 posts in the RVS, then makes 11 more posts that I can't divine any information from. However, his 14th post is where things get good:
Hunger's posts look like townposts in a vacuum, but when you put them together and try to follow his train of thought, it looks like an uncoordinated mess of scumminess.
After latching on to something I said, Killjoy spent the rest of his life trying to get Hunger lynched:
You're verbage suggests you support it. You keep asking about "Why is this lynch better than KJ" which suggests you support my lynch.
yeah read my posts. You are way off base.
Here's the posts I'm referring to.Like I said, your verbiage reads like you support it. "What makes this better than the KJ wagon" implies that 'the KJ wagon' is good. So "way off base" is an overstatement, for sure.
I've played enough with you to know that you are not this dense. You are intentionally taking things out of context and inventing reasoning that doesn't even make sense with my posts to come to this conclusion.
1. The first quote is questioning plum's play because he said we were both equally worthless and equally good lynches, but voted me despite you having a wagon on you already. This has nothing to do with you and was entirely about questioning plum's play which is the context of the post the quote is from. Do you not think it's weird to say two people are equally good lynches, but to vote the one with 0 votes instead of the one with I believe it was 3 at the time? Especially considering how much he has wanted a massclaim and is hungry for my claim? It's a bit odd, but is entirely about plum and not my inclination to vote or not vote you. I want plum to explain himself, which he hasn't done a whole lot of this game.
2. This second quote is questioning Seppel's play. He came in and voted you despite not having read the game and then unvoted because he said you don't have enough content to get any information from your lynch, which I think is terrible reasoning if you think you are voting scum, which pretty much says he doesn't think he was. He then voted Meg and I wanted him to defend that vote because I thought his vote and unvote of you looked bad and he gave no reasoning for a Meg vote either. Again, the context of this post and the 3 or 4 surrounding it make it pretty obvious I was questioning Seppel.
3. The third quote, even taken out of context like you have done, is pretty obviously in your defense if anything. Like, why did you quote that? It makes your argument look worse. I'm straight up asking Chris for an actual case on you, so how in your mind does asking people to provide reasoning for voting you translate to me supporting your lynch?
Wheat replaced in and is wrong about three of his scum reads for sure if Antny/plum are town. You will have to forgive me if I don't put much stock in his KJ scum read. Do you have a reason for KJ being scummy other than PoE?
@KJ wagon - is there an actual case here? Is it just people jumping on Chris's PoE list? What has he done that's actually scummy?
And to add even more context, most of my entire post here was questioning Chris's post in which he reasoned a vote on you. How does me questioning an entire post based in voting you lead you to believe I supported your lynch? On top of that your quote above with the 4. in it is the same thing I said in this post questioning Chris, which is the first post I started asking about your wagon. This is relevant because your reason for voting me is because of the verbiage of asking for a case on you earlier and now wanting to lynch you, but the verbiage is actually the same.
You are reaaaalllly stretching here saying I advocated your lynch. So I stand by my original statement, you are way off base.
TL;DR
I think there is a pretty good chance KJ is scum here. His catch up post that was supposed to be stream of consciousness has very little content and basically is an excuse to throw a vote on Chris without putting any actual pressure on him so it appears he is doing something and then jumps on my wagon with super flimsy reasoning. His posts since have been equally empty and entirely reactive.
Vote: KJ
Huh.
So I've looked it over more thouroughly and realized that I was a bit off base there. [/understatement]
I thought I caught something, but was wrong.
And those last two things I just missed entirely.
I need to reread you now to see why I thought you were so scummy in the first place. Damn.
Damn it guys. I didn't read into Hunger as much as I should have. Maybe people haven't played with me a lot, but that's something I do sometimes. It's a habit I have to break.
My point WAS true, I just didn't look as much into the context as I should have to make it true IN CONTEXT.
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[quote from="Hunger »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/outside-magic/mafia/599678-the-wall-mafia-day-2-digging-through-notes?comment=1072"]Also about KJ's claim, from a sample size of one, Kam's role was called "Learned Scholar," and in this flavor-heavy of a game, having a role with a normal mafia name seems off.
Maybe it's meant to deter flavor gaming. IDK. That's my role.
@Meg: well, because you hadn't done much this game. Then I remembered Winterfell.
I dislike Iso's thought process in the use of his ability. He targets the two people he believes to be the most likely to be the LC and therefore confirmed town, and Destiny Bonds them?Even if he got lucky and got a town and a scum, he's still purposefully setting the LC up to die for no good reason I can see.
I'm gonna think on that more here at work though. I'm new lean scum on Iso though.
Wow. I was not expecting this game to be so complete. There's really only a few possibilities.
1. Cyan & KCC (Killjoy fired on his own team, which is a Killjoy thing to do)
2. Plum & Cythare
3. Iso is lying about his ability (In which case anything could be true)
Even if you don't assume I'm town, that only adds a [Cyan / KCC / Seppel] possibility.
@ISO: Are you lying? There's no reason to lie any more at this stage of the game, since we're going to lynch based off your information. (Also if you say you're not lying now, but then you say you're lying later, that means you're scum.)
Do you still think Cyan is scum? If so, who is the other? If not, then who are your scum reads?
My opinion on Cyan hasn't changed. At this point, I think his buddy is probably Seppel, with an outside chance of Hunger.
@Cyan: I've been holding off on voting because I wasn't ready to hammer Seppel, and I've been pretty checked out today. If you're volunteering to be the lynch instead, though...:p
And really Iso? This game is full of posts like this on MP's part(and on Antny's, frankly). And you think that they are less likely to be scum than Seppel, Hunger, AND Myself based on...what, exactly? There are literally not 2 people more likely to be scum in this game than Antny and MP. Not individually, not as a 2 person unit either. It makes sense in every single way imaginable.
@ISO: Are you lying? There's no reason to lie any more at this stage of the game, since we're going to lynch based off your information. (Also if you say you're not lying now, but then you say you're lying later, that means you're scum.)
if Cyan asked me if I was lying TWICE on Day 2 and I said "no" both times, why would I change my answer now? No. I'm not lying about my ability.
And really Iso? This game is full of posts like this on MP's part(and on Antny's, frankly). And you think that they are less likely to be scum than Seppel, Hunger, AND Myself based on...what, exactly? There are literally not 2 people more likely to be scum in this game than Antny and MP. Not individually, not as a 2 person unit either. It makes sense in every single way imaginable.
And you should know it. So what ******* gives?
Because the only people who have ACTED like townies are the ones that are confirmed or close to it. You all have an infuriatingly large number of points against you, which isn't making this any easier to parse for me.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@ISO: Are you lying? There's no reason to lie any more at this stage of the game, since we're going to lynch based off your information. (Also if you say you're not lying now, but then you say you're lying later, that means you're scum.)
if Cyan asked me if I was lying TWICE on Day 2 and I said "no" both times, why would I change my answer now? No. I'm not lying about my ability.
And really Iso? This game is full of posts like this on MP's part(and on Antny's, frankly). And you think that they are less likely to be scum than Seppel, Hunger, AND Myself based on...what, exactly? There are literally not 2 people more likely to be scum in this game than Antny and MP. Not individually, not as a 2 person unit either. It makes sense in every single way imaginable.
And you should know it. So what ******* gives?
Because the only people who have ACTED like townies are the ones that are confirmed or close to it. You all have an infuriatingly large number of points against you, which isn't making this any easier to parse for me.
Please get over yourself. The only thing that you have going for you is that you telegraphed your role in a way that is absurdly unlikely to be faked. This will forever give you a pass in my book, but behaviorally you don't have anything else going for you either. Reality is that everyone has been scummy in this game. Don't forget that Megiddo got run up and forced to claim LC. That doesn't mean that you just get to check out of the game and just coast along.
And it's not like asking you to actually look into whether or not people might be scum is some big endeavor. This is a small game, both in terms of players and # of posts. In xkcd, you had no problem whatsoever reading myself, Rhand, AND Generic to detail exactly why we were more likely to be scum than anyone else. You could probably read and analyze all 5 of myself, Seppel, Hunger, Antny/Cythare, and MP in this game in less time/effort than that took you.
Ultimately, Antny/MP are the last 2 scum. I just know it. If I have to beat you over the head to get you to take the little bit of time necessary to go read their posts, then fine. And this applies to everyone, not just Iso.
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I doubt anyone was roleblocked Day 2. No one has claimed to have been roleblocked Night 2 as of yet though.
I had forgotten about that. However, how were you not blocked then if that was the case? And the silence wasn't blocked either.
That's fair actually. I never said he should have claimed power, just that he was targeted by a block. If plum was of the mindset you only get roleblock notification for being power, that could be what the misunderstanding is and why he is insisting I said he should claim power when I didn't. It's even possible that's how it works in this game. In my experience, when I have been blocked as vanilla, I still receive notification so that is where I was coming from.
@plum - Is this where your issue lies? Are you of the mindset that only power would be notified of being roleblocked?
Wait
Non power roles get RB messages here?
@plum: Depends on the host and function of the role, really.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/outside-magic/mafia/446906-mafia-theory-and-discussion?comment=2576
why would nobody mention that they got flavor relating to a horn
etc.
If at first you don't succeed, claim, claim again.
I think you should be able to avoid a CC with this one, though.
Also, am I to take it that your official explanation for why you chose to falseclaim during the massclaim, is simply "for fun, because you could."
I think we're all already on this page, Meg. Though, I'm a little sad we didn't get this analysis, especially if it was going to look like this.
You probably shouldn't have posted that link, about how hard you had to resist faking masons in Amistaria. It proves that you obviously know better.
That's a reasonable expectation, and is exactly why that question was pointless to ask.
Hunger's MP case is obviously bad, but I'm not sure it's scum-bad.
Cyan's MP suspicions are worse though, considering his vote is on Seppel, and it's clearly impossible to have a Seppel/MP scumteam.
I'm pretty sure Iso was asking why, of the two investigative roles, you're suspicious of the full tracker, over the 1-shot cop.
And it's not at all impossible for MP to be scum. I think that he is mafia godfather and Seppel is..whatever who knows. Mafia of some other variety. Nothing else really makes sense to me.
Honestly, I would rather lynch MP today, because I am MORE convinced that he is scum than Seppel, and have been convinced of this for literally the ENTIRE GAME. But I know other people aren't going to go along with it because of the situation with Seppel, and I'm sure that Seppel is also scum anyway so, resolving it today isn't really a big deal. I'll worry about it tomorrow when MP is still conveniently alive and still has no relevant tracking result to provide.
Was it not a sound associated with fear? I seemed to get that impression from the flavor, whatever it was.
As for why they wouldn't claim it, I already explained that, and plum confirmed.
How can you justify a Godfather with my role existing as it does?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Unvote, vote Cyan.
Yes.
Well, that was deep into that game when it came up. This one it's still early.
@Seppel: I lol'ed.
Well, I think I should mention that you, in fact, could not. Though, it was fun.
Oh, of course. It's definitely much better to potentially destroy a game if it hasn't been going on very long. Sounds reasonable.
Will the mysteries never end? Who could it possibly be?
@Seppel: Just for fun, do you have any idea who Cyan's scumbuddy might be?
Cyan has been claiming to believe / disbelieve a lot of ridiculously improbable things, but whenever anyone even mentions Iso's ability, Cyan is on damage control like a stingray on Steve Irwin.
I don't have any issue with KCC's claim either. Shocking, when people are A)very town behaviorally and/or B)their claim lines up with said behavior, I don't take any issue with their claims. But when their behavior sucks and their claim doesn't help them, I want to lynch them.
How terrible of me.
... The other one?
Somehow you have managed to do any of those things. By this games standards that is a minor miracle.
What happened to cythare?
I am, but I'm too busy trying to get actual scum lynched to scold you for sitting around durdling. But since you bring it up, feel free to be more actively involved in the game, seriously.
this week has been busy. I did actually have a post written up re: killjoy, which I'll post sometime tomorrow or saturday after I finish my reread.
Seppel is pretending he is town who is paying so little attention to the game that he didn't realize we lynched scum Yesterday. -Despite paying enough attention to give detailed feedback on Cyan's interactions with Iso. And despite having a similar conversation with meg just a few days ago.
Well, as confirmed town, you can pretty much do whatever you want. Plus, there's really not much to do here anyway, since it's fairly obvious who the scum are at this point. Other than, you know, the actual lynching part, if you want to use those votes of yours.
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Do you still think Cyan is scum? If so, who is the other? If not, then who are your scum reads?
"damage control"
Do you even know what my role is, without looking it up?
You realize that Antny (who is now Cythare, btw) and plum are confirmed to be of the same alignment...right?
I mean, I've just been waiting for you to contribute
I figured you would when you were done blowing raspberries.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Seppel (4) - KittyCupCake, Cyan, Hunger, Iso
Cyan (1) - Seppel
Not Voting (3) - Megiddo, MasterPlum, Cythare
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With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
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Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
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2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
Plus, look at the final vote count for Huntzilla.
2 people that are incredibly likely to be town, 2 confirmed town, and...Antny and MP. There has to be scum somewhere on this wagon. There just has to. They were the last 2 people to vote KJ also, which completely has the feel of 'resigned scum bussing their buddy to avoid looking suspicious for not being involved in the wagon' feel to it.
I'm going back to my game long scum reads here. Which means that Seppel is just being..Seppel. And we can have words about that after the game. But for now, MP/Antny is just a better place to be. If you guys re-read the game, I think that you will pretty easily come to the same conclusion. Unvote, Vote masterplum
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also Iso you could be lying. In that case everything lines up.
vote:cyan
Happy?
My #622:
After latching on to something I said, Killjoy spent the rest of his life trying to get Hunger lynched:
He spends his life trying to nail Hunger...and then Hunger nails him? I don't see a Killjoy-Hunger pair. Hunger is town.
Additionally, minor town points to Iso and Plum for these two posts:
LC -> Megs
Killjoy -> Hunger
Killjoy -> Iso -> Plum and Antny/Cythare
Seppel -> Seppel
Unaccounted for: Cyan & KCC
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Wow. I was not expecting this game to be so complete. There's really only a few possibilities.
1. Cyan & KCC (Killjoy fired on his own team, which is a Killjoy thing to do)
2. Plum & Cythare
3. Iso is lying about his ability (In which case anything could be true)
Even if you don't assume I'm town, that only adds a [Cyan / KCC / Seppel] possibility.
@ISO: Are you lying? There's no reason to lie any more at this stage of the game, since we're going to lynch based off your information. (Also if you say you're not lying now, but then you say you're lying later, that means you're scum.)
@Cyan: I've been holding off on voting because I wasn't ready to hammer Seppel, and I've been pretty checked out today. If you're volunteering to be the lynch instead, though...:p
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That is not really what I said.
And really Iso? This game is full of posts like this on MP's part(and on Antny's, frankly). And you think that they are less likely to be scum than Seppel, Hunger, AND Myself based on...what, exactly? There are literally not 2 people more likely to be scum in this game than Antny and MP. Not individually, not as a 2 person unit either. It makes sense in every single way imaginable.
And you should know it. So what ******* gives?
And you still think Hunger could be scum?
If I'm lying, then there are 4 scum in this Mini.
if Cyan asked me if I was lying TWICE on Day 2 and I said "no" both times, why would I change my answer now? No. I'm not lying about my ability.
Because the only people who have ACTED like townies are the ones that are confirmed or close to it. You all have an infuriatingly large number of points against you, which isn't making this any easier to parse for me.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
why's that?
1) Cyan & KCC
2) Plum & Cythare
And from everyone else's perspective...
3) Cyan & Seppel
4) KCC & Seppel
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There are a couple ways to go about this. We're on autowin from my perspective, but we're not on autowin from everyone's perspective.
Did we finish the massclaim? Can someone compile claims? Maybe we can get a little more info that can pretty much solve the game here and now.
Please get over yourself. The only thing that you have going for you is that you telegraphed your role in a way that is absurdly unlikely to be faked. This will forever give you a pass in my book, but behaviorally you don't have anything else going for you either. Reality is that everyone has been scummy in this game. Don't forget that Megiddo got run up and forced to claim LC. That doesn't mean that you just get to check out of the game and just coast along.
And it's not like asking you to actually look into whether or not people might be scum is some big endeavor. This is a small game, both in terms of players and # of posts. In xkcd, you had no problem whatsoever reading myself, Rhand, AND Generic to detail exactly why we were more likely to be scum than anyone else. You could probably read and analyze all 5 of myself, Seppel, Hunger, Antny/Cythare, and MP in this game in less time/effort than that took you.
Ultimately, Antny/MP are the last 2 scum. I just know it. If I have to beat you over the head to get you to take the little bit of time necessary to go read their posts, then fine. And this applies to everyone, not just Iso.