@ika
What did Citric attack hawk for that hawk Citric is doing the same towards you? That is what I wanted clarified.
Fixed...
ignoring posts. everoyne keeps shouting cirtus answered my question but nobody pointed it out yet and i am not int he mood to go look though 24 pages to find it
@ika: So you think that everyone attacking hawk is either:
* Busing
* Scum attacking low-hanging fruit
Correct?
There are only 3 scum in the game, and if 2 of them are busing, then it stands to reason that the majority of hawk's wagon is being pushed by town.
I find it dubious at best that you find it beyond consideration, then, that people attacking hawk (i.e. myself) are beyond a town read, given the number of people on the wagon. Are you as bad at arithmetic as you are at Mafia? Perhaps you should consider that some of the people pushing on hawk legitimately have scum reads on him and try to figure out why instead of discrediting everybody voting for him.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
im not going to quote b/c its just going ot take up a mass amount of space and im lazy with snipping:
first: yes im not voitng him atm b/c i want iso lynch more, if i need to move my vote to get the cirtus lych to get momentum i would but in the argument i have seen about scum!iso is "that if you dont get him soon you never get him" so im doing that
the second: is i dont recall the answer and asked him to link me to it. is that so hard?
if citus amps up his game to what i expect from him i will give him town. i have played enough games with to to where i put an expectation from what i expect from town!citrus. if he doesnt meet it i push him untill i find the underlyig reason if he is town
finally: thats not really a question to look at the case. tbh i give very little insights to cases (espicaly on day 1) i find that you just make a bullet-point list with the post and reasons and i will be more inclined. do you know the post number offhand? i will go look at it but i have already stated why i think its myslynch
FMPOV its either this:
A) easy attack on low hanging fruit
B) scums are hardcore bussing
i think its the former and not the later. scums usally will try to defend their buddy and so far i have yet to see anyone who has really defended him in a manner that screams scum buddy to me.
Don't worry I'll amp up eventually. I'm just feeling lethargic from being busy irl + there's not really much to do D1 here and no one's taken a really heavy leadership role thus far. Iso kinda did but only from driving discussion from his "scumclaim" stuff, and you've been pushing for discussion but not really saying much beyond what you've been repeating.
I am also debating calling bull***** on all the people claiming they have scum teams pinned down already, there's a reason why I didn't care to respond to that ika. Unless really incompetent scum, I sincerely doubt one can actually pin down the scum team so early. Yeah maybe it's good for reaction testing, but there's way too little content in here to actually genuinely have real reads made. So far there's very few points anyone's pushed that I found myself agreeing with beyond large doubt
Ika the only thing I didn't answer was who are hawks scummates if he is scum, which I haven't answered because I don't have strong scum reads yet. I'm waffling a bit on hawk too because considering the games momentum right now, he could have continued pushing on me and probably gotten me mislynch today though his Lynch would follow from my flip so idk.
Like seriously though, if I were to come up with a scum team right now it'd be basically 3 lurkers which is what everyone else has been doing when they claim a scum team. Seriously why I think people are either lying or full of themselves.
Anyways, ika's reaction to Citric's defence of him seemed bit too aggressive. If ika ends up flipping mafia, we should take a look at Citrus. Especially for this:
#604:
scums usally will try to defend their buddy and so far i have yet to see anyone who has really defended him in a manner that screams scum buddy to me.
(This was from ika's post about hawk being either bussed or being mislynched as mafia.)
Here, take a look at what ika says and then how does he act when it comes to Citrus? Exactly the opposite.
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2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You know, I'm feeling relatively happy with a DCIII lynch today, especially considering I popped a vote on him and he just OMGUS'd me afterwards. Meh I'll make my lists later
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hey guys, it's been a very busy weekend. I will post a votecount and do a prod check tomorrow morning.
With that said...
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Joshua observes as Sydney Losstarot and John Hardin take a moment to rest in a dilapidated house. Hardin kneels down, clearly concentrating on something, but the boy cannot determine what.
The Müllenkamp leader asks, "What do you see?"
As Hardin continues to focus, Sydney glances over at young Joshua. "I think he finds us strange," he muses.
Hardin finally speaks. "They have formed into three groups. They are wounded... and increasingly wary of being split apart. They are less focused than our visitors last night."
"The soldiers Guildenstern brought to the Greylands were trained elites. These latecomers are mere sellswords." As Hardin rises to his feet and stretches, Sydney continues. "He doubtlessly wished to capture us at the Duke's manor, but we proved too cunning a quarry."
Hardin, less calm than his compatriot, responds, "A hollow victory... our losses are greater than the Blades'. They will soon hold the surface."
"We have sacrificed much, yet it need not be in vain... need it, Hardin?"
"They have even turned some of our servants against us! How can they control them?
"Not all of them. Only a few."
"Have we been betrayed by one of our own?!"
As Hardin's frustration begins to boil over, Sydney advances toward him and rests a hand upon his shoulder. Immediately, in an almost ethereal way, Hardin is calmed.
"I think not. The Cardinal has long prepared for this day."
Hardin gathers himself, his resolve returning. He continues, still unhappy with their situation. "We must leave, or we soon will be warming our toes in hell."
"Trust me, Hardin. All is well," Sydney responds as he walks toward the front door of the house. "Take the boy with you and go on ahead. Pay mind not to be rough." Just before reaching the door, he stops and turns back slightly. "I'm going to go pay a visit to our friends."
Sydney closes the door behind him as he departs. Hardin walks over to Joshua and extends his hand.
"Come..."
The boy takes his hand, and he lifts him up onto his shoulder to carry him. As Hardin makes his way to another exit, he is startled by a voice that rings out within his mind.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Pretty sure Ika is town this game for those that gave a scum-read on him, he tends to not get as invested when he's scum and he's gotten frustrated multiple times already, which happens for him with both alignments but is more likely to occur when he's town
are you seriously defedning me? like for real?
citus, ill be blunt: dont do it again. im more then capable of defending myself and if not i will get myslynched for it and then they can live with it.
if theres one thing that pisses me off more then anything else is when people scum read me and someone else defends me in this kind of manner. if someone thinks im scum they better out their vote one me or be talking with me to figure out im town. i will not stand fr anyone defending me in this kind of manner
b/c i want iso lynch more, are you reading the damn thread?
what was the quesiton i missed?
also no, if you think im scum you better be vote parking my ass, backing off your scum read, or talking with me to find out im town
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for the defense thing: i give a damn when people defend me in a manner i think that is scum defending me. scums always have an easy time either defending me or myslynching me when they have not played with me.
citus has played with me many times so if he tries to push a scum angle on me i will drill him into a 1v1 with me (unless i were to be scum then i prob would not have much reaction)
other players have not so much it is very easy for them to target me as an easy target to attack/lynch or try to myslynch me.
you fall in the second catagory where you can play both sides of the game. so pick one and go with it if you are going to potshot me like you are doing now i will attack you with no end untill you either get lynche dor i get lynched
1. Why is it alright for you to vote Iso and not Citric because Iso is a stronger scum read for you, but it's not OK for the people calling you scummy to vote their stronger reads instead of voting you?
2. What is, "this kind of manner," in which Citric is defending you? It sounds like it's a meta read, which you seem to be using in your reads as well. What is scummy about the way Citric is defending you?
I also had searched Sanctum and found something that wasn't mine - but if you were concerned about this information benefiting scum, why the focus on consolidating here? You'd been the most outspoken against sharing search information.
I was against releasing the information in the first place, but enough people wanted to go with a reveal plan, so that's what we're doing now. And once the info is in the thread, consolidating it can only help us - we have to assume scum are already doing their own scanning and consolidating.
This is more of what I haven't liked about Kam. He seems to just be going with the flow and doesn't really care about anything. He supposedly didn't like revealing info, but then didn't fight for it and just dropped it, and now he is seemingly going along with it because it's what most people want. What if it's scum that's leading this argument? It just doesn't seem like you actually care and your original stance was to try and look towny because you, "don't want to give scum info."
@hawk
RL is rather busy for me since must know. I've got two job interviews coming up, typed up a very detailed cover letter for Apple Computers, and have been practicing my Culinary skills in case I get my first Chef job at Nordstrom being a Prep Cook. Thank you for checking on my activity though. You are right about my lurkiness being a sign of me being Scum, but that is not the case here. #MetaFail
I don't like how overly defensive this sounds when hawk just asked if you are normally this lurky. Like, he wasn't pushing you or calling you scum even, why so defensive?
Kamikaze and Hawk, I want your opinions on the fact you both claim Enchanter. And didn't Iso claim something eerily similar? Like Magician or something?
You might be right about iso, seppel I don't think is scum. There was very little reason for him to get involved in defending me as scum.
Out of curiosity, the last game we played you were much more matter of fact. Saying things like this person is scum vs it's plausible. Why the change in tone?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Kamikaze and Hawk, I want your opinions on the fact you both claim Enchanter. And didn't Iso claim something eerily similar? Like Magician or something?
I haven't played Vagrant Story, but in general RPGs, Class is usually something shared by several characters. So I'm not surprised that there are multiples of any given class. E.G. in Grim Batol mafia, based on WoW, there were multiple Shamans, etc.
You might be right about iso, seppel I don't think is scum. There was very little reason for him to get involved in defending me as scum.
Out of curiosity, the last game we played you were much more matter of fact. Saying things like this person is scum vs it's plausible. Why the change in tone?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Kamikaze and Hawk, I want your opinions on the fact you both claim Enchanter. And didn't Iso claim something eerily similar? Like Magician or something?
I haven't played Vagrant Story, but in general RPGs, Class is usually something shared by several characters. So I'm not surprised that there are multiples of any given class. E.G. in Grim Batol mafia, based on WoW, there were multiple Shamans, etc.
Fixed...
ignoring posts. everoyne keeps shouting cirtus answered my question but nobody pointed it out yet and i am not int he mood to go look though 24 pages to find it
* Busing
* Scum attacking low-hanging fruit
Correct?
There are only 3 scum in the game, and if 2 of them are busing, then it stands to reason that the majority of hawk's wagon is being pushed by town.
I find it dubious at best that you find it beyond consideration, then, that people attacking hawk (i.e. myself) are beyond a town read, given the number of people on the wagon. Are you as bad at arithmetic as you are at Mafia? Perhaps you should consider that some of the people pushing on hawk legitimately have scum reads on him and try to figure out why instead of discrediting everybody voting for him.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Don't worry I'll amp up eventually. I'm just feeling lethargic from being busy irl + there's not really much to do D1 here and no one's taken a really heavy leadership role thus far. Iso kinda did but only from driving discussion from his "scumclaim" stuff, and you've been pushing for discussion but not really saying much beyond what you've been repeating.
I am also debating calling bull***** on all the people claiming they have scum teams pinned down already, there's a reason why I didn't care to respond to that ika. Unless really incompetent scum, I sincerely doubt one can actually pin down the scum team so early. Yeah maybe it's good for reaction testing, but there's way too little content in here to actually genuinely have real reads made. So far there's very few points anyone's pushed that I found myself agreeing with beyond large doubt
Like seriously though, if I were to come up with a scum team right now it'd be basically 3 lurkers which is what everyone else has been doing when they claim a scum team. Seriously why I think people are either lying or full of themselves.
Thanks for reminding me. They haven't done anything notable recently so I forgot about them. Take them off my list.
Citric
ika42
Hunger
KamiArch
Seppel
Not willing to lynch
Iso
Rhand
Hawk
Bur
Antny223
DCIII
Void
Willing to lynch:
- ika
- Seppel
- hawk
Anyways, ika's reaction to Citric's defence of him seemed bit too aggressive. If ika ends up flipping mafia, we should take a look at Citrus. Especially for this:
#604:
(This was from ika's post about hawk being either bussed or being mislynched as mafia.)
Here, take a look at what ika says and then how does he act when it comes to Citrus? Exactly the opposite.
go ahead im done trying to figure thign out
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
hawk
Antny
Seppel
Arch
Not willing to lynch:
Void
Hunger
Bur
ika (as much as I want him to stop posting except to vote who I tell him to)
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In the off chance that Void is scum and I've been wrong about him for the first time in ever, he's scum with Seppel and probably DCIII.
If DCIII is scum, Rhand is town.
I forget who Citric could be scum with.
But my best bets for scum are hawk, Arch, and Seppel.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Want to lynch:
1. Rhand
2. Antny223
11. DCIII
Willing to lynch:
3. Seppel
4. Void
8. Hunger
9. KamikazeArchon
10. 7hawk77 - V/LA until 11/3
12. Bur - V/LA until 11/3
Unwilling to lynch:
5. ika42
7. Iso
With that said...
Public Service Announcement #3:
To clarify for everyone, the Grimoires searches are done in real time. They resolve in chronological order based on when I receive them.
I have discussed the timestamp issue with my reviewers, and I am going to compromise with you guys. You are free to discuss timestamps on any PMs that you send to me during the day to change locations and search for Grimoires. You may not discuss the timestamps on your results, or on any PMs related to night actions.
Iso
Seppel
ika
Citric
Not willing to lynch:
Anyone else
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Joshua observes as Sydney Losstarot and John Hardin take a moment to rest in a dilapidated house. Hardin kneels down, clearly concentrating on something, but the boy cannot determine what.
The Müllenkamp leader asks, "What do you see?"
As Hardin continues to focus, Sydney glances over at young Joshua. "I think he finds us strange," he muses.
Hardin finally speaks. "They have formed into three groups. They are wounded... and increasingly wary of being split apart. They are less focused than our visitors last night."
"The soldiers Guildenstern brought to the Greylands were trained elites. These latecomers are mere sellswords." As Hardin rises to his feet and stretches, Sydney continues. "He doubtlessly wished to capture us at the Duke's manor, but we proved too cunning a quarry."
Hardin, less calm than his compatriot, responds, "A hollow victory... our losses are greater than the Blades'. They will soon hold the surface."
"We have sacrificed much, yet it need not be in vain... need it, Hardin?"
"They have even turned some of our servants against us! How can they control them?
"Not all of them. Only a few."
"Have we been betrayed by one of our own?!"
As Hardin's frustration begins to boil over, Sydney advances toward him and rests a hand upon his shoulder. Immediately, in an almost ethereal way, Hardin is calmed.
"I think not. The Cardinal has long prepared for this day."
Hardin gathers himself, his resolve returning. He continues, still unhappy with their situation. "We must leave, or we soon will be warming our toes in hell."
"Trust me, Hardin. All is well," Sydney responds as he walks toward the front door of the house. "Take the boy with you and go on ahead. Pay mind not to be rough." Just before reaching the door, he stops and turns back slightly. "I'm going to go pay a visit to our friends."
Sydney closes the door behind him as he departs. Hardin walks over to Joshua and extends his hand.
"Come..."
The boy takes his hand, and he lifts him up onto his shoulder to carry him. As Hardin makes his way to another exit, he is startled by a voice that rings out within his mind.
"He intends to die."
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Votecount 1.6:
7hawk77 (3) - DCIII, Antny223, Iso
CitricBase (1) - Void
DCIII (1) - CitricBase
Iso (2) - ika42, KamikazeArchon
KamikazeArchon (4) - Hunger, Seppel, 7hawk77, Rhand
Seppel (1) - Bur
Not voting: None
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
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Also, Hunger has been prodded. He has 48 hours to post or be replaced.
I need to reread the last few pages doing more than a skim, but here is my list:
Want to lynch
Kam
hawk
Don't want to lynch
DCIII
Iso
Antny
Ika
Need a better read
Rhand
Void
Seppel and hawk voting for Arch makes me hesitant to jump back on that wagon.
...but I'm gonna do it, anyway!
Unvote, Vote KamikazeArchon
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Willing to lynch
KamikazeArchon
Dciii
anty
citric
void
Prefer to not lynch
iso
hunger
rhand
bur
Will defend their lynch
Ika
seppel
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jLDZjMF3tk&feature=youtu.be&t=1m21s
I'm Inquisitor Heldricht. My class is Enchanter. My alignment is Town and my role is still Locked.
Hawk, you need to look at Seppel again, I dislike his play and I think an Iso/Seppel scumteam is plausible.
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hey hawk when and why did you change your read on me
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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hey Archon when and why did you change your read on me
No idea what it does
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Did you see my town slip post about Antny?
Why is Void town?
1. Why is it alright for you to vote Iso and not Citric because Iso is a stronger scum read for you, but it's not OK for the people calling you scummy to vote their stronger reads instead of voting you?
2. What is, "this kind of manner," in which Citric is defending you? It sounds like it's a meta read, which you seem to be using in your reads as well. What is scummy about the way Citric is defending you?
This is more of what I haven't liked about Kam. He seems to just be going with the flow and doesn't really care about anything. He supposedly didn't like revealing info, but then didn't fight for it and just dropped it, and now he is seemingly going along with it because it's what most people want. What if it's scum that's leading this argument? It just doesn't seem like you actually care and your original stance was to try and look towny because you, "don't want to give scum info."
Why? Because people are scum reading you? You think this is going to help that?
I don't like how overly defensive this sounds when hawk just asked if you are normally this lurky. Like, he wasn't pushing you or calling you scum even, why so defensive?
What's your current stance on hawk?
You might be right about iso, seppel I don't think is scum. There was very little reason for him to get involved in defending me as scum.
Out of curiosity, the last game we played you were much more matter of fact. Saying things like this person is scum vs it's plausible. Why the change in tone?
Outdated Mafia Stats
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Outdated Mafia Stats
Outdated Mafia Stats
you, scum shamans in grim batol.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Garcia rule, have you heard of it? Jesus
im on my wiiu so posting is a ***** (abusing autoclicking for clicker heros)