I don't see the joke you are referring to. The current situation is a 1v1 between 2 people that I think are town or myself getting lynched who is also town. This doesn't help town reach the goal of winning so it's unproductive.
This post, a few back before I asked you the question.
Antny: You should read up on my history with Void. As for Bur, his mindset is pretty open book right now.
Hunger: It is good of you to be wary of me! I am scum, after all.
So when I opted in to this game, I only knew it was an item/location based game. I did not read in to it do I assumed everyone was searching for different items. If I was scum I would have known everyone was looking for grimoires. I didn't. I'm not scum. Also iso for sure noticed this post and still wants to lynch me. Citric iso and dciii scum team.
Alright. So the slip actually is a valid point. Scum likely would have discussed their plans and talked about finding their grimoires, but the fact still remains that you were holding on to this as a town slip to apparently use for exactly this purpose which makes it a lot less believable.
Also, you say Iso is on the scum team, yet you said you think he is town in the first quote above, and have said you are unsure of him, but you have liked Kam and yet you vote Kam instead of Iso because of links? No way.
dunno why but it just feels like someone is doing shananigans
Except, didn't you say you thought the current wagons were town? Like, obviously you don't think anyone is bussing hawk, so where do you think bussing is going on?
Seems like we're lynching out of him, iso or myself. Seppel and iso didn't like him. Ika and myself did. Pretty useful flip regarding people's opinions on it and he wasn't super useful as town last game so its not losing much if we miss. If he flips town, iso and seppel look great and make the game really easy.
This day should end soon imho. I've lost a lot of my usual resolve.
Did you notice in your reread of me that I was one of the first people to say I didn't like Kam? I think Iso even commented on me having similar reads as him at one point. So what do you think it says about me if he flips scum? Why is it just Seppel and Iso and not me or Citric?
Rhand - he's been V/LA all day. Emotional player. Pressuring him is the best way to read him imho. Whenever I've been town and he's also town, we interpret the game completely different so I usually think he's scum. Overall I think his scum play is better than his town play. He does the best work in the mid game so maybe listen to his reads day 2 or day 3.
Anty - Limited experience. He made the right call as a hydra last game so isn't completely terrible. Posting frequency isn't super involved. I know he's wrong about me so not really sure what else to say about him.
Seppel -Limited experience. Last completed game I was in with him, he frusrated me so much I self hammered to get out of the game without claiming in BSG. Has good enough reads that he can act pretty far out there. I currently believe his read on archon. There is also no scum motivation I could see for him to defend me.
Void - Limited experience. Notably, I remember us joking during season 1 of the league that if we ever got scum together, we would instalose day 1. His posts seem overly confidant and mechanical this game. It's been a while since I've played with him so I thought about looking at old games, but really his play style could have completely changed. I don't like the confidance that he portrays in my lynch.
Ika - Strongest town read. The thing that I really like about Ika is he notices small things that most people miss. His conveyance of his reads are not super strong, (I myself suffer from this).
Citricbase - Active lurking. I'd policy lynch this.
Iso - Strong player, we've played in 2 games together. 1st game I was scum and botched my claim. Second game I got mislynched as town after replacing in (luckily he carried the town to a cult/town win). If he's around and none of the stronger players are at end game, he's probably scum. This game I've been torn on him. His emotional response to the game is understandable from a town perspective but the weird stuff he says about being scum irks me.
Hunger - I don't remember like anything from his posts. I'll probably reread him and post some more about him.
DCIII - Way to confidant in calling me scum from the get go. I find it hard to believe anyone can be that confidant in general tells that are not meta or player specific. After getting the wagon on me, hasn't contributed.
Bur - His posts sounded way to mechanical/contrived but since he is not a native english speaker, it would make a lot of sense. Lean town.
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If anty flips scum, I think Iso is town. The RVS post about him bussing us was just weird. I know I'm town and I don't think that he would bring up a scum buddy like that out of the gates.
If kamikaze archon flips scum, Iso is town, Seppel is town.
If void flips scum, I think that DCIII is also scum. If this is the case I think the last scum on that team would be one of the weaker players.
Time to go reread hunger.
Where is Kam in this list?
You didn't remember any of my posts despite previously town clearing me for claiming nothing was at City Walls? That doesn't add up.
Why do you think Void and DC being so confident is scummy? What about Iso? What about Citric? They both seem pretty confident you are scum as well.
Why is Bur town just because you misunderstood his style? I can see why it would weaken your scum read, but how does that make him town?
There is literally a 0% likelihood that you are doing anything but typing the first words that pop into your head when you post without thinking about it.
exactly, i dont have to think about what i say b/c i knwo im town and i dont give jack. scums have to think about what they say.
I quoted this post, but could have chosen any of the other probably 15, why are you so obsessed with people saying who hawk's scumbuddies are? Why are their reads of hawk invalid if they can't link him to anyone? This logic is so ass backwards. Why can't I think hawk is scum, but have no idea who his buddies are? Also, Iso had already answered earlier when I asked him that he thinks hawk and Kam are likely scum together. I just don't get this insistence that you have to know the whole scum team to think one person is scummy.
And I really don't like your second point. Like, the way you say "exactly" there is like you have been forcing this playstyle to appear town. The fact that you are so self-aware of it just makes it WIFOM now.
5. Whenever a player searches a location, they will receive a results PM within a short frame of time. If a location contains any Grimoires that do not match that player's character, they will learn there is something to be found there but not what it is or how many there are. If a location contains that player's Grimoire, they will take it and there may or may not still be Grimoires within that location. If a location contains no Grimoires at the time of the search, the player will be notified of this.
the bolded is what your missing.
what should i do then? sit here and watch someone i think who is town get lynched? no
you have yet to say who are his partner cirtus
Oh, I thought you could only 'detect' your own grimoire regardless of anything else.
Well I was told I found exactly nothing, so there's nothing in the abandoned mines then.
See, if this is genuine I would think it's likely a town slip because I assume scum talked about a plan of action with investigations. If he really believes this, either scum didn't have that conversation for some reason or he is town. The thing that gives me pause is that this is after Antny and hawk had both been the subject of the same type of slip. At this point, it just isn't something I'm willing to take at face value, but it does follow with his apparently not knowing that the OP states the way the roles work and thinking there is a scum ability surrounding the mechanic. So basically,
Oh yeah so hunger. I like him as a player, concise writing generally easy to play with. Good analysis and reads. So for this game I really liked his early post linking player interactions with Void and iso and other players. It was good analysis. I also like his reasoning for sharing info and he shares info immediately. I already said earlier that sharing the info about city walls is probably true based on his likely hood of hitting his Grimoire on first inspect.
Now things get weird when he keeps going on about lynching karn and votes karn. What the hell.
Please explain "things get weird." Also, I'm voting Kam, not Karn.
Just thought I'd check in to mention there's something at the Keep. I'll read up the rest of the thread a later point - assuming Hawk isn't lynched by then.
im obssed with it cus if he flips town i want people to have accountability vs them just trying to get him for baseless accusations
if hes town scums have to work out his partners that somehow fit the bill and then come back to it and explain where they went wrong and have to put up new reads.
Oh god Kam looks like KARN. I thought you got confused who was in the game like anty and I did with generic. Usually people have been calling him arch or kami.
You just aren't that memorable to me. Other people bloat the chat and you havent posted that much comparatively. specifically i asked in the chat, who said they went to the city walls and found nothing cause I had forgotten you said it. I then looked it up and made my comment about the motive behind it. I also thought generic was signed up for this game so there is that.
About bur, what I had against him was more of a gut tell and he refuted it. It doesn't conf town him but I wouldn't want to lynch him today. I think there are better choices currently.
Also I don't think you are supposed to bring up ongoing games like that. If this is a genuine concern I could bring up counter points where I've done the same as town. Also why would I implement the strategy if it got me mislynched?
@Ika - I think I get what you're saying, but not really sure I agree. For one, I don't feel like the people voting him have been for baseless reasons? I feel like everyone has given reasons. And second, if they are voting him for baseless reasons, isn't that enough accountability already? Like, if it is as you say aren't they going to look bad anyway?
@hawk 511&512 - Fair enough. As for 513, we are both dead so I figured it was alright, but you are probably correct. Consider it dropped.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hawk is posting like a madman. He doesn't do this if he's scum on the chopping block.
He's not on the chopping block as momentum totally shifted, js.
@Iso
Ika does this literally every game. He tends to lurk out as scum but very consistently. The best way to play with him is ignore him when he's wrong/off, and work with him when he's on the right track
Lel. Seriously not going to answer? Probably because it's made up
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There is a lot more information out there about hawk to vote him, but rather than quote posts, Citric votes hawk for not answering a question. While not answering a question is scummy it however does not mean that somebody is Scum. I, as Town in the past, have refused to answer someones question. But this is more likely to be Scum talking to Scum with this exchange.
As for the other buddy... I would put that person somewhere in the realm of either Hunger or Seppel (I don't see both Hunger and Seppel being Scum) followed by ika and Rhand. This based on the last votecount.
@hawk
RL is rather busy for me since must know. I've got two job interviews coming up, typed up a very detailed cover letter for Apple Computers, and have been practicing my Culinary skills in case I get my first Chef job at Nordstrom being a Prep Cook. Thank you for checking on my activity though. You are right about my lurkiness being a sign of me being Scum, but that is not the case here. #MetaFail
he attacked hawk for the exact thing hes doign to me, not answering my question. also given the fact i know he plays elsewhere and have played with him extensivly that he always has trobule with me when hes scum. even now hes just talking about me for the stake of posting
has he generated anything useeful? not that i have seen
has he been lurking? yes but so have sevral
does everyone seem to have suspicion of him? yes if you read sevral peole pointed out things about him
Reviewed Citric. He's only really engaged three people: ika, hawk and Rhand. The switch from Rhand to Hawk in particular seems opportunistic. I can see him being scum. However, I'm not happy about lowering pressure on Iso. I still think Iso is a better lynch.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Reviewed Citric. Only three people have really engaged him: ika, hawk and Rhand. The switch from Rhand to Hawk in particular seems opportunistic. I can see him being scum. However, I'm not happy about lowering pressure on Iso. I still think Iso is a better lynch.
Reviewed Citric. Only three people he has really mentioned: ika, hawk and Rhand. The switch from Rhand to Hawk in particular seems opportunistic. I can see him being scum. However, I'm not happy about lowering pressure on Iso. I still think Iso is a better lynch.
Fixed your quote in blue
fixed again, you know theres a thing called talking to people
Reviewed Citric. Only three people he has really mentioned: ika, hawk and Rhand. The switch from Rhand to Hawk in particular seems opportunistic. I can see him being scum. However, I'm not happy about lowering pressure on Iso. I still think Iso is a better lynch.
Fixed your quote in blue
fixed again, you know theres a thing called talking to people
At least use a different color if you're going to do that too
it looks like iso and others attacking low hanging fruit
i dont buy that hes scum with how his wagon suddenly took off while isos wagone was gaining traction.
also add in that ciruts has yet to explain who his scum buddies are as well as being one of my high scum reads is a direct reason why im so against it
But none of this takes into account any of the reasons I think he's scum, like, you aren't saying what you disagree with or why, you're just saying he's low hanging fruit and that the wagon came up opposite Iso. If he looks like low hanging fruit to you, what do you think specifically about the main points against him are wrong or opportunistic?
As for his scum buddies - I'm thinking Seppel and Citric or Antny - probably Citric. I don't think Kami is likely scum with Hawk based on Hawk's 474.
Seppel came in and defended Hawk without saying why or what about the post made him think he was town, just that they did... and he still hasn't. He's implying that he hasn't read the full game and said that he's mostly ignored Hawk since the first post he read of his, which feels like a cop out.
Hawk felt comfortable putting the "pressure" vote on Citric earlier in the game when Citric hadn't posted and Citric called it into question when he first arrived but didn't really follow through on it until later once the wagon started, and then his later interactions with Hawk felt pretty unchecked where his interactions with others have felt checked.
Antny's interactions with Hawk and switched stance on him felt off and I don't love that he's gone quiet recently.
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@Everyone else - Hawk just selectively responded to stuff in Hunger's #506 and then called him town, including not responding to the point about how he said Iso, Citric, and I were scum and then voted Kami for read helpfulness - which is the same point I made earlier and he hasn't addressed either time but he's town reading Hunger.
@ika
Citric ignores a question from you and that makes Citrus Scum in your eyes and some meta. However you Town read hark for the same exact reason except the question doesn't come from you and you have full access to hawk's meta, but haven't brought it up except in the early game and it was a rather weak meta read at that. You then conclude that Citric is leading a mislynch based on this information.
1) Has a point.
2) Has a point, but you make it moot yourself.
3) Suspicion =/= Scum
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
can we get back to lynching iso now? all i have seen was stupid frustation by you that isnt making me any more convinced that hawk is a better lynch then you
Why don't you present a detailed case instead of just *****ing.
And it's another page of almost entirely Iso and ika.
We're not getting anywhere without a flip. Proposal: everyone votes either me or Iso. Obviously I prefer you all to vote Iso, but if my death is what it takes to get people to actually look at the game, so be it.
This post feels town. That said I still have no intention of doing it.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Antny: I don't remember any games with Mirrorentity because HE REPLACED OUT OF ALL OF THEM. Also I don't need go read the game to find scum. I'm a pro. Also that vote was because the other wagon was Hawk and that's an awful wagon.
Umm, this was basically your exact reaction before getting lynched as scum in Wu-Tang (GiP, but we are both dead so should probably be left at that).
The self-awareness here pretty much makes it so I don't even want to read the "slip."
Alright. So the slip actually is a valid point. Scum likely would have discussed their plans and talked about finding their grimoires, but the fact still remains that you were holding on to this as a town slip to apparently use for exactly this purpose which makes it a lot less believable.
Also, you say Iso is on the scum team, yet you said you think he is town in the first quote above, and have said you are unsure of him, but you have liked Kam and yet you vote Kam instead of Iso because of links? No way.
Except, didn't you say you thought the current wagons were town? Like, obviously you don't think anyone is bussing hawk, so where do you think bussing is going on?
Did you notice in your reread of me that I was one of the first people to say I didn't like Kam? I think Iso even commented on me having similar reads as him at one point. So what do you think it says about me if he flips scum? Why is it just Seppel and Iso and not me or Citric?
Where is Kam in this list?
You didn't remember any of my posts despite previously town clearing me for claiming nothing was at City Walls? That doesn't add up.
Why do you think Void and DC being so confident is scummy? What about Iso? What about Citric? They both seem pretty confident you are scum as well.
Why is Bur town just because you misunderstood his style? I can see why it would weaken your scum read, but how does that make him town?
I quoted this post, but could have chosen any of the other probably 15, why are you so obsessed with people saying who hawk's scumbuddies are? Why are their reads of hawk invalid if they can't link him to anyone? This logic is so ass backwards. Why can't I think hawk is scum, but have no idea who his buddies are? Also, Iso had already answered earlier when I asked him that he thinks hawk and Kam are likely scum together. I just don't get this insistence that you have to know the whole scum team to think one person is scummy.
And I really don't like your second point. Like, the way you say "exactly" there is like you have been forcing this playstyle to appear town. The fact that you are so self-aware of it just makes it WIFOM now.
See, if this is genuine I would think it's likely a town slip because I assume scum talked about a plan of action with investigations. If he really believes this, either scum didn't have that conversation for some reason or he is town. The thing that gives me pause is that this is after Antny and hawk had both been the subject of the same type of slip. At this point, it just isn't something I'm willing to take at face value, but it does follow with his apparently not knowing that the OP states the way the roles work and thinking there is a scum ability surrounding the mechanic. So basically,
Please explain "things get weird." Also, I'm voting Kam, not Karn.
if hes town scums have to work out his partners that somehow fit the bill and then come back to it and explain where they went wrong and have to put up new reads.
as for the bussing: consider it gut call.
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You just aren't that memorable to me. Other people bloat the chat and you havent posted that much comparatively. specifically i asked in the chat, who said they went to the city walls and found nothing cause I had forgotten you said it. I then looked it up and made my comment about the motive behind it. I also thought generic was signed up for this game so there is that.
About bur, what I had against him was more of a gut tell and he refuted it. It doesn't conf town him but I wouldn't want to lynch him today. I think there are better choices currently.
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Yeah I said does anyone know if iso jokes about being scum regardless of alignment. Calling yourself scum is obviously just joking/trolling.
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@hawk 511&512 - Fair enough. As for 513, we are both dead so I figured it was alright, but you are probably correct. Consider it dropped.
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Vote count please.
@Hunger
that last post was under the pretense that you were voting me, which I'm not even sure if you are. Either way I'd like an answer.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
TIL: Every single one of ika's reads is meta-based (ergo probably garbage) except for the one on me (which is still garbage).
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hawk is correct, discussion of ongoing games includes public knowledge from said games. Please don't do this again.
Votecount 1.5:
7hawk77 (5) - DCIII, Antny223, Void, CitricBase, Iso
Iso (3) - ika42, Rhand, KamikazeArchon
KamikazeArchon (3) - Hunger, Seppel, 7hawk77
Seppel (1) - Bur
Not voting: None
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
He's not on the chopping block as momentum totally shifted, js.
@Iso
Ika does this literally every game. He tends to lurk out as scum but very consistently. The best way to play with him is ignore him when he's wrong/off, and work with him when he's on the right track
One of hawk's Scum buddies would be Citric. Based on this post here:
There is a lot more information out there about hawk to vote him, but rather than quote posts, Citric votes hawk for not answering a question. While not answering a question is scummy it however does not mean that somebody is Scum. I, as Town in the past, have refused to answer someones question. But this is more likely to be Scum talking to Scum with this exchange.
As for the other buddy... I would put that person somewhere in the realm of either Hunger or Seppel (I don't see both Hunger and Seppel being Scum) followed by ika and Rhand. This based on the last votecount.
RL is rather busy for me since must know. I've got two job interviews coming up, typed up a very detailed cover letter for Apple Computers, and have been practicing my Culinary skills in case I get my first Chef job at Nordstrom being a Prep Cook. Thank you for checking on my activity though. You are right about my lurkiness being a sign of me being Scum, but that is not the case here. #MetaFail
I would go after iso if you flipped town.
@Anty
please elaborate why you think I'm scum. I don't understand how 3 players meta read me as town and you meta read me as scum.
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What do you think of citrus' vote on hawk?
hes scum trying to gain a myslynch.
he attacked hawk for the exact thing hes doign to me, not answering my question. also given the fact i know he plays elsewhere and have played with him extensivly that he always has trobule with me when hes scum. even now hes just talking about me for the stake of posting
has he generated anything useeful? not that i have seen
has he been lurking? yes but so have sevral
does everyone seem to have suspicion of him? yes if you read sevral peole pointed out things about him
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Fixed your quote in blue
fixed again, you know theres a thing called talking to people
At least use a different color if you're going to do that too
But none of this takes into account any of the reasons I think he's scum, like, you aren't saying what you disagree with or why, you're just saying he's low hanging fruit and that the wagon came up opposite Iso. If he looks like low hanging fruit to you, what do you think specifically about the main points against him are wrong or opportunistic?
As for his scum buddies - I'm thinking Seppel and Citric or Antny - probably Citric. I don't think Kami is likely scum with Hawk based on Hawk's 474.
Seppel came in and defended Hawk without saying why or what about the post made him think he was town, just that they did... and he still hasn't. He's implying that he hasn't read the full game and said that he's mostly ignored Hawk since the first post he read of his, which feels like a cop out.
Hawk felt comfortable putting the "pressure" vote on Citric earlier in the game when Citric hadn't posted and Citric called it into question when he first arrived but didn't really follow through on it until later once the wagon started, and then his later interactions with Hawk felt pretty unchecked where his interactions with others have felt checked.
Antny's interactions with Hawk and switched stance on him felt off and I don't love that he's gone quiet recently.
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@Everyone else - Hawk just selectively responded to stuff in Hunger's #506 and then called him town, including not responding to the point about how he said Iso, Citric, and I were scum and then voted Kami for read helpfulness - which is the same point I made earlier and he hasn't addressed either time but he's town reading Hunger.
I also like that post from Hunger.
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
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2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
Citric ignores a question from you and that makes Citrus Scum in your eyes and some meta. However you Town read hark for the same exact reason except the question doesn't come from you and you have full access to hawk's meta, but haven't brought it up except in the early game and it was a rather weak meta read at that. You then conclude that Citric is leading a mislynch based on this information.
1) Has a point.
2) Has a point, but you make it moot yourself.
3) Suspicion =/= Scum
I need to mull things over a bit.
Unvote
I didn't ignore a question from him?
Vote DCIII
Calling it now, this is going to be the most important votecount of the entire game.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Then you should be bringing that up with ika, not me. He is the one claiming you refused to answer a question from him.
No he's not. He's just repeating over and over that he thinks I'm doing my scum meta and thus I'm scum. Not really any discussion beyond there
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
Yes the old appeal to emotions. I'm pretty sure that's how the cavemen caught scum.
Becuase?
I'm surprised. Town!ME stuck around in Walking Dead despite being heavily suspected day 1. Which games have you played with ME?
What is this list Seppel?
Try analyzing as well as reading. It's far more satisfying then just flinging mud.
Your right it is crazy to describe your play as the sanity in the game. Perhaps you should stop.
Why don't you present a detailed case instead of just *****ing.
Instead of hypotheticals, could you link mean actual game where you've done this?
This post feels town. That said I still have no intention of doing it.
Yeah, why waste time with cases when we can blindly start setup gaming? That never goes wrong, right?
Oh and you abandoned that the second Citric did something scummy. Did you vote because of 353 or because you wanted to sheep Hawk?
Ah so you weren't trying to deflect you were trying to distance. I'm calling Hawk/Citric/Seppel as a somewhat bussy scumteam.
Why did you feel the need to advise this at this point?
This sort of error comes from seeing people talk about Kam and thinking they mean Karn. Seppel hasn't read the game.
That's all I'm going to cover right now. Hopefully I'll be back early tomorrow to get caught up.
Why would you wait for people to engage you?
Do we have a search plan in place or do I just search anything?
I probably won't post this weekend
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
There's something at the Sanctum
There's something at the Undercity
There's nothing at the Walls
There's nothing at the Abandoned Mine
Correct me if I missed any.
@anty
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=58565
caught first scum and proceeded to abuse the roles to my advantage
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/27243-S-FM-132-Do-You-Even-Lift
abused the random mechanic so i couldnt be accountable for my actions
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/25452-S-FM-128-Average-City
abused the "failure to do blackmail=death" to win
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21619-S-FM-96-Gang-Wars
abused our own roles and manipulated evryone by team effort
i can always do more but that would require you to have an account over there to see the other games.
i dont see your vote on em right now. if you think im scum you better be backing that accusation up with a vote