2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Tanarin: Meta. 90% of his posts give me this distinct feeling I got when I played with Iso in Katawa Shojou where he was scum. I don't have any concrete evidence of scummy behavior or mindset in his posts to present at the current moment but I do recall some things I wanted to point out before so I'll get to that when I'm not on my lunch break ;\
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I will admit I'm willing to lynch Shockwave if JAR or Iso are the L-1/Hammer (doesn't matter who on what position, or if it's just one or both)
I guess it doesn't really matter who is lynched first in a game of two basic goons.
Unvote
Vote: Shockwave
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Iso, you seem to be having an awful lot of trouble with getting your posts eaten. Suggestion; write in a word processor or google docs because chances are you can get your stuff recovered. And yes, I am aware that one of the posts eaten was a phonepost. Just saiyan.
OK guys, I get the shockwave votes, but don't people think it is a bit too... easy right now? I mean just his lack of posting/commitment alone is not a reason for him to be scum (Quick look has him at 3 replacements in the last few months.) Also, this is shockwave who we are talking about, a player with a well documented case of foot in mouth syndrome (Drury Lane being one huge instance of it. And Pleasantville is a scum example of it.)
I guess my point is, let's either wait for him to come back or wait for his replacement to come in and say something before going lynch crazy on him.
@JeY: Meta alone is not gonna sell me on his lynch. Been burned way too much by meta on him to even go there. Show me how he has been scummy in this game, and we will talk.
@Bolly: You go after shockwave for his FoS post, yet you seem to give a pass to JAR for blatantly doing the exact same thing you and Iso are accusing shockwave of doing. Any particular reason why?
I agree with Tanarin, especially because I don't remember what Shock's done that's so scummy. If it's just that he hasn't been around, well he hasn't been on the site period in the last pretty much full week.
Someone who isn't Bolly want to summarize? I leave Bolly out because he did explain his vote but I don't buy it.
I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
Iso: I'd like to know what you think of Shockwave's 2 posts that I've quoted.
I mean, I probably mentioned them in my Shockwave case. But I don't remember, so I don't mind repeating myself just this once: I think they're self-conscious and overly cautious.
Iso, you seem to be having an awful lot of trouble with getting your posts eaten. Suggestion; write in a word processor or google docs because chances are you can get your stuff recovered. And yes, I am aware that one of the posts eaten was a phonepost. Just saiyan.
I mean, I can't do Google Docs on my phone, let alone quote a post. As for my last bigpost I had typed up that poofed, that was my laptop dying, not Curse eating it.
Also, while I'm here and talking to you, I will say that I remember quoting your "treat me like a child" thing and responding with something to this effect: I'm doing nothing of the sort; you know full well that I employ the Socratic Method in order to bring people around to my point of view, or at least to make them question or solidify their own views. The fact of the matter is that asking you, "And which do you think is more likely?" was a genuine question, and the fact that you got buttmad about it struck me as scum resentment for heading your poor attack on Tanarin at the pass.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I love it when I can tell exactly why someone is placing a naked vote because it lets me know I'm not as completely terrible at this game as I feel at times.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Personal update: family has left town as of 6:30 this morning, so I'll have time to do things again. Maybe this weekend.
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@Iso: if you typed it up in google docs, laptop dying meaning you would've lost, at most, a word or two. Typing it up in a word processor means it was rather likely it would've went "shut down unexpectedly; recover document?" and left you off similarly (at max a word or two missing). "Just saiyan"
And you personally know I hate that bullcrap. It's manipulative and condescending to someone like me. That's not a stunt you'd pull as town on me. You know full well if I thought Tanarin was scummy because of their posts I would've called them out on it right on the spot. Just like how I called you out.
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JAR looks like he's defending a scumbuddy to me but there's no way he can be that stupid.
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Wheat's vote makes me want to re-read iRebel. That's three cases now. Just shoot me. ...Not literally mind you.
Thing is, you did call Tanarin scummy for it - and in asking you the questions in my procession of inquiry, I cut you off at the pass for such a garbage push. There's absolutely nothing condescending about it and the fact that you're still taking it as a personal front reeks of deflection from the main point.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Thing is, you did call Tanarin scummy for it - and in asking you the questions in my procession of inquiry, I cut you off at the pass for such a garbage push. There's absolutely nothing condescending about it and the fact that you're still taking it as a personal front reeks of deflection from the main point.
I love it when I can tell exactly why someone is placing a naked vote because it lets me know I'm not as completely terrible at this game as I feel at times.
I love it when I can tell exactly why someone is placing a naked vote because it lets me know I'm not as completely terrible at this game as I feel at times.
THIS IS SO WRONG
I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
AHA! IS THIS OUR CHANCE?
UNVOTE, VOTE: ISO
Well consider me among the confused here.
A) Why did you naked vote iRebel?
B) Why the vote to Iso in this fashion?
Can you guys please start posting more so I can townhunt.
It's much easier when I can knock a few people off the list of possible suspects. This is one of the games with the least number of obvtowns I've been in in a while and I think that's just due to low activity all around making it hard to tell.
I love it when I can tell exactly why someone is placing a naked vote because it lets me know I'm not as completely terrible at this game as I feel at times.
THIS IS SO WRONG
I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
AHA! IS THIS OUR CHANCE?
UNVOTE, VOTE: ISO
Well consider me among the confused here.
A) Why did you naked vote iRebel?
B) Why the vote to Iso in this fashion?
A. I naked voted iRebel because he was justifying the wagon after it ended in a townflip. It also reads to me as though he does not consider himself a part of the town.
B. The reason for the vote on Iso is because that is very, VERY un-Iso behavior. I've never seen Iso feel terrible at mafia (or admit that he feels terrible at mafia) while the game is still ongoing. Iso NEVER admits to flaws.
So why is he doing so now? I think he's trying a behavior unlike one he's tried before to throw Jey off the scent. He knows that I'm very likely to join Jey because I tend to put weight behind Jey's intuition, and that I am capable of getting him lynched if I really try hard.
As to why I voted him in that fashion, it's because it was 1am and it tickled my wrong-meter too much not to go over the top.
A) Ahh OK, I figured this was the reason, but wanted to make sure. I was actually scratching my head on the fact he had no real conviction as to who to vote or at least pressure for today. At last check, he said his top suspects were Kami (Lynched), Soock (being replaced) and JAR. On top of that he had Shock and Jar tied in his likely suspects. He also had JAR as his first sumsuspect way back in post #82, so one would figure he would want to go after him today, if only for pressure.
@iRebel: Can you please provide us a T/S list with reasoning. I really want to know where you stand as the majority of your content posts were strictly focused on Kami and/or JAR
B) Alright. Again, I am hesitant to go to meta here due to past experience, but at the same time, you are very correct that him showing any doubt during the game is odd at best. I think if anything though, an Iso wagon/lynch will flush out scum way better than just sitting here and wasting another week.
Vote Iso
L-2 warning
@Karn: I concur on the posting more, and the townhunting. At this point we need to do something, ANYTHING, to get activity up. Our lack of posting as a whole is providing scum with a perfect place to hide.
And I was just thinking to myself last night that there was no way I'd ever be able to push an Iso lynch, which is why I had to vig him in Katawa Shoujo when I had the same scum feeling from him.
I haven't had time to actively re-read and case properly to answer everyone but I'm still planning to do it. I made the mistake of underestimating my weekend so I won't have as much free time as I thought.
And Wheat, as an aside, I'm pretty sure Iso has been *****ing about his mafia play a lot recently from his most recent games. I don't think it reeks entirely of un-Iso, but I do like your pitch that it's trying to throw me off from his trail. It wouldn't be that easy though ;P
I still don't like the way Karn is acting but I can't confidently say he's scum. Karn, instead of asking people to post, maybe you can provoke discussion?
Does anyone have examples of town!Shock lurking out a game? Because my two examples of Shock lurking out a game are both scum, and by the contrare he has been quite active as town (with occasional dips in activity only near endgame).
Has JAR done /anything/ this game?
I actually forgot Void was in this game until he posted on this page. Would love some more content from him.
The fact that Katawa Shoujo went the way it did still makes me facepalm. (Multiple people townreading me and scumreading Iso but lynching me Day1 anyway "because Iso.") Why would you still think it's hard to push an Iso lynch, JeY? AND after we already got him to L1 or L2 on Day1 this game without you even voting.
The fact that Katawa Shoujo went the way it did still makes me facepalm. (Multiple people townreading me and scumreading Iso but lynching me Day1 anyway "because Iso.") Why would you still think it's hard to push an Iso lynch, JeY? AND after we already got him to L1 or L2 on Day1 this game without you even voting.
And Wheat, as an aside, I'm pretty sure Iso has been *****ing about his mafia play a lot recently from his most recent games. I don't think it reeks entirely of un-Iso, but I do like your pitch that it's trying to throw me off from his trail. It wouldn't be that easy though ;P
This is true, but the tone sounds like it's on another level of *****ing beyond that.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Thing is, you did call Tanarin scummy for it - and in asking you the questions in my procession of inquiry, I cut you off at the pass for such a garbage push. There's absolutely nothing condescending about it and the fact that you're still taking it as a personal front reeks of deflection from the main point.
According to #208, yes you did. You said that Tanarin was intentionally painting you in a negative light, and even though you didn't say it directly, you were certainly hinting at it making him scummy. You're trying to worm your way out of this because you just need an excuse to vote me since I've crumbled each and every reason you've given to do so.
I love it when I can tell exactly why someone is placing a naked vote because it lets me know I'm not as completely terrible at this game as I feel at times.
I love it when I can tell exactly why someone is placing a naked vote because it lets me know I'm not as completely terrible at this game as I feel at times.
THIS IS SO WRONG
I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
AHA! IS THIS OUR CHANCE?
UNVOTE, VOTE: ISO
Well consider me among the confused here.
A) Why did you naked vote iRebel?
B) Why the vote to Iso in this fashion?
A. I naked voted iRebel because he was justifying the wagon after it ended in a townflip. It also reads to me as though he does not consider himself a part of the town.
B. The reason for the vote on Iso is because that is very, VERY un-Iso behavior. I've never seen Iso feel terrible at mafia (or admit that he feels terrible at mafia) while the game is still ongoing. Iso NEVER admits to flaws.
So why is he doing so now? I think he's trying a behavior unlike one he's tried before to throw Jey off the scent. He knows that I'm very likely to join Jey because I tend to put weight behind Jey's intuition, and that I am capable of getting him lynched if I really try hard.
As to why I voted him in that fashion, it's because it was 1am and it tickled my wrong-meter too much not to go over the top.
hello? did you miss the Day 1 Iso wagon in its entirety?
Did you somehow forget this post and this post, where I did exactly that and you eventually stopped riding the Iso train?
A) Ahh OK, I figured this was the reason, but wanted to make sure. I was actually scratching my head on the fact he had no real conviction as to who to vote or at least pressure for today. At last check, he said his top suspects were Kami (Lynched), Soock (being replaced) and JAR. On top of that he had Shock and Jar tied in his likely suspects. He also had JAR as his first sumsuspect way back in post #82, so one would figure he would want to go after him today, if only for pressure.
@iRebel: Can you please provide us a T/S list with reasoning. I really want to know where you stand as the majority of your content posts were strictly focused on Kami and/or JAR
B) Alright. Again, I am hesitant to go to meta here due to past experience, but at the same time, you are very correct that him showing any doubt during the game is odd at best. I think if anything though, an Iso wagon/lynch will flush out scum way better than just sitting here and wasting another week.
Vote Iso
L-2 warning
@Karn: I concur on the posting more, and the townhunting. At this point we need to do something, ANYTHING, to get activity up. Our lack of posting as a whole is providing scum with a perfect place to hide.
This entire post is just wrong.
You were defending me on Day 1 for doing this, and now it suddenly makes me scum? And the line to Karn afterwards reads so fakely.
And Wheat, as an aside, I'm pretty sure Iso has been *****ing about his mafia play a lot recently from his most recent games. I don't think it reeks entirely of un-Iso, but I do like your pitch that it's trying to throw me off from his trail. It wouldn't be that easy though ;P
Why would I need to throw you "off my trail" if I were scum? It's obvious that given Day 1, you lack the clout or case to push me - and in fact, you, yourself, got run up for just that. If I were scum, I wouldn't feel threatened by you here at all.
And Wheat, as an aside, I'm pretty sure Iso has been *****ing about his mafia play a lot recently from his most recent games. I don't think it reeks entirely of un-Iso, but I do like your pitch that it's trying to throw me off from his trail. It wouldn't be that easy though ;P
This is true, but the tone sounds like it's on another level of *****ing beyond that.
Iso is scum because he's Plethora *****ing.
This isn't even a thing. You're making ***** up as you go.
Unvote, Vote Tanarin
All of the votes on me are godawful but his is probably the worst given the 180 he did on me with the exact same reasoning he used to defend me on Day 1.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Anyway, Iso, full disclosure. I can't read you too well, and you know that. I CAN read others though based on their reaction. My vote seems more than appropriate given the circumstances.
Also, how is my line to karn "fakely"? I have been one of the biggest complainers about the activity level of this game. This has all the feel of Xymande all over again with the town. And given the deadline (Which BTW we have already burned 5 days barring any extensions from the mod,) we need to pick it up.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Did I say that? In fact have I ever voted you just because you are Iso? (Outside of RVS of course) It can't be a policy vote if there is no previous history of me voting you just because you are you.
"According to #208, yes you did. You said that Tanarin was intentionally painting you in a negative light, and even though you didn't say it directly, you were certainly hinting at it making him scummy. You're trying to worm your way out of this because you just need an excuse to vote me since I've crumbled each and every reason you've given to do so."
You're seriously questioning my policy of brutal honesty? roflmao.
I've got some reading to do guys, don't expect too much out of me for the next day or two. In the meantime, please give me the skinny. What have we figured out about the game mechanics? Who has been scummy? And who should I focus on while reading? Actually, if everyone could give me their top scum suspect and a short reason why, I think that would help me immensely.
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You're the dude who just lies a lot and makes people hate you and then magically becomes town later, right?
It's too early in the morning to do anything about it though, especially considering I have work.
I'll do some rereading this afternoon if I feel like it.
So I'm just going to Vote Shockwave, which is what we should have done yesterDay.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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I will admit I'm willing to lynch Shockwave if JAR or Iso are the L-1/Hammer (doesn't matter who on what position, or if it's just one or both)
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I guess it doesn't really matter who is lynched first in a game of two basic goons.
Unvote
Vote: Shockwave
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Iso, you seem to be having an awful lot of trouble with getting your posts eaten. Suggestion; write in a word processor or google docs because chances are you can get your stuff recovered. And yes, I am aware that one of the posts eaten was a phonepost. Just saiyan.
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I guess my point is, let's either wait for him to come back or wait for his replacement to come in and say something before going lynch crazy on him.
@JeY: Meta alone is not gonna sell me on his lynch. Been burned way too much by meta on him to even go there. Show me how he has been scummy in this game, and we will talk.
@Bolly: You go after shockwave for his FoS post, yet you seem to give a pass to JAR for blatantly doing the exact same thing you and Iso are accusing shockwave of doing. Any particular reason why?
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Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Someone who isn't Bolly want to summarize? I leave Bolly out because he did explain his vote but I don't buy it.
Forgot about this.
You're my third strongest read, and if you want me to explain THAT, wait until I do Iso again.
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Agree with Karn in #337: No terribly strong convictions.
#340, Jey: I agree with Tanarin (#347) on this — no dice on the meta argument re: Iso.
#350, Jey: I would like to see your argument on JAR.
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I mean, I probably mentioned them in my Shockwave case. But I don't remember, so I don't mind repeating myself just this once: I think they're self-conscious and overly cautious.
I mean, I can't do Google Docs on my phone, let alone quote a post. As for my last bigpost I had typed up that poofed, that was my laptop dying, not Curse eating it.
Also, while I'm here and talking to you, I will say that I remember quoting your "treat me like a child" thing and responding with something to this effect: I'm doing nothing of the sort; you know full well that I employ the Socratic Method in order to bring people around to my point of view, or at least to make them question or solidify their own views. The fact of the matter is that asking you, "And which do you think is more likely?" was a genuine question, and the fact that you got buttmad about it struck me as scum resentment for heading your poor attack on Tanarin at the pass.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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@Iso: if you typed it up in google docs, laptop dying meaning you would've lost, at most, a word or two. Typing it up in a word processor means it was rather likely it would've went "shut down unexpectedly; recover document?" and left you off similarly (at max a word or two missing). "Just saiyan"
And you personally know I hate that bullcrap. It's manipulative and condescending to someone like me. That's not a stunt you'd pull as town on me. You know full well if I thought Tanarin was scummy because of their posts I would've called them out on it right on the spot. Just like how I called you out.
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JAR looks like he's defending a scumbuddy to me but there's no way he can be that stupid.
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Wheat's vote makes me want to re-read iRebel. That's three cases now. Just shoot me. ...Not literally mind you.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
according to #206 and #208... No I didn't.
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THIS IS SO WRONG
I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
AHA! IS THIS OUR CHANCE?
UNVOTE, VOTE: ISO
Well consider me among the confused here.
A) Why did you naked vote iRebel?
B) Why the vote to Iso in this fashion?
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Vote: Iso
It's much easier when I can knock a few people off the list of possible suspects. This is one of the games with the least number of obvtowns I've been in in a while and I think that's just due to low activity all around making it hard to tell.
A. I naked voted iRebel because he was justifying the wagon after it ended in a townflip. It also reads to me as though he does not consider himself a part of the town.
B. The reason for the vote on Iso is because that is very, VERY un-Iso behavior. I've never seen Iso feel terrible at mafia (or admit that he feels terrible at mafia) while the game is still ongoing. Iso NEVER admits to flaws.
So why is he doing so now? I think he's trying a behavior unlike one he's tried before to throw Jey off the scent. He knows that I'm very likely to join Jey because I tend to put weight behind Jey's intuition, and that I am capable of getting him lynched if I really try hard.
As to why I voted him in that fashion, it's because it was 1am and it tickled my wrong-meter too much not to go over the top.
@iRebel: Can you please provide us a T/S list with reasoning. I really want to know where you stand as the majority of your content posts were strictly focused on Kami and/or JAR
B) Alright. Again, I am hesitant to go to meta here due to past experience, but at the same time, you are very correct that him showing any doubt during the game is odd at best. I think if anything though, an Iso wagon/lynch will flush out scum way better than just sitting here and wasting another week.
Vote Iso
L-2 warning
@Karn: I concur on the posting more, and the townhunting. At this point we need to do something, ANYTHING, to get activity up. Our lack of posting as a whole is providing scum with a perfect place to hide.
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I haven't had time to actively re-read and case properly to answer everyone but I'm still planning to do it. I made the mistake of underestimating my weekend so I won't have as much free time as I thought.
And Wheat, as an aside, I'm pretty sure Iso has been *****ing about his mafia play a lot recently from his most recent games. I don't think it reeks entirely of un-Iso, but I do like your pitch that it's trying to throw me off from his trail. It wouldn't be that easy though ;P
I still don't like the way Karn is acting but I can't confidently say he's scum. Karn, instead of asking people to post, maybe you can provoke discussion?
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Has JAR done /anything/ this game?
I actually forgot Void was in this game until he posted on this page. Would love some more content from him.
The fact that Katawa Shoujo went the way it did still makes me facepalm. (Multiple people townreading me and scumreading Iso but lynching me Day1 anyway "because Iso.") Why would you still think it's hard to push an Iso lynch, JeY? AND after we already got him to L1 or L2 on Day1 this game without you even voting.
Low self confidence and Iso. -shrug-
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(6 to lynch)
Shockwave07 - 4 (Iso, Bolly, Niv, JeY k)
Iso - 3 (Wheat_Grinder, Sir Karn, Tanarin)
I think this is accurate.
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This is true, but the tone sounds like it's on another level of *****ing beyond that.
Iso is scum because he's Plethora *****ing.
Also as for recent examples of shock going out as town: Winterfell, DuesEx it seems as well.
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What.
Garbage wagon. Reasoning incoming.
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
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According to #208, yes you did. You said that Tanarin was intentionally painting you in a negative light, and even though you didn't say it directly, you were certainly hinting at it making him scummy. You're trying to worm your way out of this because you just need an excuse to vote me since I've crumbled each and every reason you've given to do so.
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Painful opportunism.
hello? did you miss the Day 1 Iso wagon in its entirety?
Did you somehow forget this post and this post, where I did exactly that and you eventually stopped riding the Iso train?
If you say you did, I don't buy it for a second.
This entire post is just wrong.
You were defending me on Day 1 for doing this, and now it suddenly makes me scum? And the line to Karn afterwards reads so fakely.
Why would I need to throw you "off my trail" if I were scum? It's obvious that given Day 1, you lack the clout or case to push me - and in fact, you, yourself, got run up for just that. If I were scum, I wouldn't feel threatened by you here at all.
I can't even.
This isn't even a thing. You're making ***** up as you go.
Unvote, Vote Tanarin
All of the votes on me are godawful but his is probably the worst given the 180 he did on me with the exact same reasoning he used to defend me on Day 1.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
JAR and Karn are scummy, but the lack of reasoning makes it harder to call them out for their play, here.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Anyway, Iso, full disclosure. I can't read you too well, and you know that. I CAN read others though based on their reaction. My vote seems more than appropriate given the circumstances.
Also, how is my line to karn "fakely"? I have been one of the biggest complainers about the activity level of this game. This has all the feel of Xymande all over again with the town. And given the deadline (Which BTW we have already burned 5 days barring any extensions from the mod,) we need to pick it up.
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So you're policy voting me?
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
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2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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You're seriously questioning my policy of brutal honesty? roflmao.
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(if anyone of those people are on v/la then I missed it and if someone points that out to me that'd be cool)
I skimmed the thread. not sure why we're looking for a replacement for shockwave when we should just be lynching him.
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I've got some reading to do guys, don't expect too much out of me for the next day or two. In the meantime, please give me the skinny. What have we figured out about the game mechanics? Who has been scummy? And who should I focus on while reading? Actually, if everyone could give me their top scum suspect and a short reason why, I think that would help me immensely.
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