@Karn: Trying to get mentally focused on this game and right now working up a case on Niv sense Seppel is to busy jerking off now, I just wanted to emphatically put how I felt about Seppel's current antics.
And if this current statement is as good as middle finger so be it.
I know you don't like me as town I don't care and will work at my own damn pace to get back in this thing. I also need to make sure I am getting the details right.
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@Seppel and Furoticon: Maybe I was a little out of line with how I reacted, but I am not a fan of people flaunting sexuality, furry or human. It sets off something in me similar to how you reacted to the Family Guy Mafia. It's not that I have a problem with people enjoying Furaffinity or such (as it appears you're a member as well), but I feel that such things as XXX images and videos shouldn't be linked to SFW sites.
Rant done. Enjoy your card game that you have a personal card in, but let's get something going.
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Well sorry to disappoint you hunger but your working in the wrong direction.
The fact you decided apon an early read of town on me is commendable, but it's a throwaway read if you suddenly decide I'm not based on nothing. I pushed for a 1v1, I got ignored. I presented my reasons for Rhand being a scum read, I got ignored. Even better than that, I get told I'm unproductive and a hinderance... When there are people in this game like antny doing ***** all and thinking they can OMGUS me?
**** him, **** you, and **** the logic. I'm gonna treat everyone with contempt and see how they enjoy it.
I'm working in the wrong direction? So how do you know Antny is town and why are you voting for him then?
My changing opinion of you is not based on nothing. I very clearly stated what I had a problem with and you just keep hand-waving and swearing at me instead of trying to defend yourself.
You can say **** logic all you want, but it's still going to be there regardless. I think my logic is pretty good and I brought up a valid point. You have yet to show otherwise, so I don't know what else to tell you. If you just want to write me off and treat me with contempt that's fine, but I don't think it's going to help you look any better. That is, if you even care to look better, which I'm questioning at this point.
Why do you call it a meta read when you agree with all that stuff?
Elaborate on SNL please.
Because his points against you are almost all meta and some of what I was agreeing with was also based on my meta-read of you. I even stated that one of my biggest issues with you, you being on your backfoot in the argument, was scummy due to meta reasons and your similar play in a game in which you were scum.
As for SNL, it should be pretty obvious if you were paying attention:
SNL has been town in the two games I played with him and he feels different to me so far this game. In those games he seemed bad, but genuine. Here it seems like he was trying to seem active out the gate, but it felt forced, like he didn't actually have a goal in mind other than to appear to be doing something. Leaning scum here.
Vote: SNL
And he has done nothing since. You asking to elaborate feels a bit forced to be honest.
Hunger, your response to rhand putting antny at L-2 without explanation to accompany the vote please. Don't want to assume you are a hypocrite just yet...
Keep it up with the potshots and fear-mongering, it's really working out well for you so far.
I am going to answer it for you, but be warned, I'm going to be using some of that ol' logic you so detest.
The reason for voting Antny are pretty obvious at this point. I don't really have any question why Rhand switched his vote to him. He was voting you on basically OMGUS because you goaded him into it. He even said as much before switching his vote to Antny. There is nothing there for me to question.
You, on the other hand, were all-in on Rhand, 1 v 1, me or him, won't let down. Then when you switch your vote to Antny and make a comment about Seppel's post being funny. If you are town that cares about looking town and having your reads taken seriously, I would have expected you to say something along the lines of: Rhand is still for sure scum and I want him to hang, but Antny also looks really bad for that post and I want him to answer for it. Like I said, to me it looks like your conviction on Rhand is now out the window and so I question the legitimacy of your scum read on him. It doesn't make you scum for sure, but I wanted to question you on it because it didn't look good to me. Then your reactions to it have been equally awful, making me reevaluate my read on you. Right now this is how the options looks to me:
1. You are scum playing the over-aggressive and inconsistent game that you can say is just too care-free to actually be scum. Writing off any arguments against you as you just don't give a ****.
2. You are trying to look bad to acquire votes, whether it's to get in debates because you like the attention and feel like you can figure people out better that way, or you have a PR that necessitates you acquiring votes. This isn't alignment indicative on it's own.
3. You are town trying to draw some heat so that you don't eat a NK.
There is also the option that you are playing poorly as town while thinking you are actually playing well, but I would like to think you are a better player than that. So I am trying to work out what I think is mostly likely because I don't have a great read on your alignment yet.
Ninja'd. Though I figured it would be. I started writing that post this morning and then since I'm at work, had to actually work, so that post was before scarbo's prod warning post. Which is basically all to say:
@Generic - 270 is exactly what I meant when I said in 272 the bit about, "if you were town I would expect you to say something like:" It was never your vote of Antny in a vacuum I had a problem with. It was your seeming 180 on Rhand without addressing it.
If he does not respond to this prod within 24 hours I will be forced to find a replacement to consider a modkill and end the Day given his current situation.
No real point in that, it just does more harm than good. If the Mod is going to modkill him in 24 hours and end the day, might as well just let that play out.
I didn't think Hawk was serious about 'need to be captain hammer', I figured he was just channeling Seppel type nonsense. I am reluctant to go along with 'I have to hammer' requests on Day 1, even if I do have a town read on the person.
And someone else hammering doesn't automatically make that person scum(especially if antny flips scum himself). It just means that they are inattentive. I hate trying to figure those situations out, and would prefer to let the mod resolve it normally.
That having been said, if hawk IS being serious about needing to hammer, I'm not like completely opposed to it..I don't think it's a good idea, but if enough other people do, I'm not going to stand in the way.
I think while we wait for Antny we should look into other lynching options even if it is mine. Antny has only three or four posts total if I remember right and not a lot of interactions. I suppose I can see it from the angle that we can look at how others reacted to his posts, but I feel working up cases on others would give us more to work on for the following Days.
So you know part of why I want antny to post so badly?
It's because we're ready to lynch him for a single post. All of us. There is like, no one opposed to this, period. And that just doesn't happen, which worries me.
@77Hawk7: People should know well enough by now self-awareness doesn't equal scum in my games look at any of my games, Sesame Street (VT), Futurama (Town Delayer), Drury Lane (Town Hunger Delayer), Dinosaur (mafioso), Mostly Mute Monk Mafia (restricted town Watcher), Walking Dead (Town 2-shot Doc), Star Wars (mafioso), Marvel Maddness 2 (Town Jailer), Hayate (VT) and at least one other game that I forgot the name of (mafioso, Iso's most recent modding) and tell me if in any of them did I not appear self aware?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I think that they're both scum, if they're on the same scum team that is just a happy coincidence(meaning that they probably are, but, I'm not trying to say that there is a relationship between them. I just happen to have scum reads on them both. Killjoy was first, but then antny came along..but Killjoy hasn't gotten less scummy in the meantime. If anything, he is more so. But I'd rather wait until Antny's alignment is 100% resolved to focus on that now).
Yeah, I'm done waiting for you to decide it's time to answer my questions. You're purposefully avoiding this discussion for some reason, and I don't think you're town for it.
But Killjoy's similar behavior looks even worse, especially the way he tried to hide his vote in the middle of a post.
"Tried to hide it in the middle of my post"? Seriously? You're saying that I thought people might notice it less if it was the second of three points I made in that post? Especially considering I had 3 one-sentence responses that post?
He votes for TK based on not agreeing with how TK interpreted a post. But that is just it. TK's post was obviously a 'this is how it looks from my perspective' post. Voting someone for something like that doesn't make sense.
So, the fact that he literally had to ignore the entire rest of the post he voted him for equates to his perspective? His perspective is that Niv is trying not to push buttons. That entire post was Niv doing that. How is it a matter of perspective when to reach said perspective you have to gauge out your eyes with a rusty nail before you can logically reach it?
Either A)TK is correctly interpreting the post, which doesn't make TK scum, or B)he is incorrectly interpreting it, which..still doesn't make him scum. You can't really argue here that he is trying to misrepresent Niv based on one single post that literally everyone will read. It just looks like Killjoy liked this wagon enough to go along with it, and tried to justify that afterward.
You are massively oversimplifying things. You're also discounting the idea that any actual thought process should be used in TK's interpretation of Niv's post... but when I interpret TK's post, my thought process should have came to your conclusions?
Why are you giving TK a pass for what you consider a bad interpretation on a post, but are so quick to jump on me for a similar transgression?
A valid one? You made the assertion that Gen was obnoxious, but not in a scummy way. That implies that there's a scummy way to be obnoxious. Can you describe this scummy way, and if in your description you can describe how Generic does not fit that description, that would be awesome.
Also, 135 has some things that require your attention.
He's made several posts since I made these, and I even told him he missed them. He's ignoring them.
I think that they're both scum, if they're on the same scum team that is just a happy coincidence(meaning that they probably are, but, I'm not trying to say that there is a relationship between them. I just happen to have scum reads on them both. Killjoy was first, but then antny came along..but Killjoy hasn't gotten less scummy in the meantime. If anything, he is more so. But I'd rather wait until Antny's alignment is 100% resolved to focus on that now).
I haven't done anything to appear less scummy... if anything, I'm more scummy? Based on no evidence? Seriously?
Also, I'm curious... can you restate your view of Antny please? Why is he scum?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
My brain is fried and I have opinions. Let's do this!
Killjoy's recent post on Cyan makes me think he's town. If he were scum, I'd think he would jump on the Antny wagon.
There's a lot of jokey posts going on around here, especially with Wheat and Seppel. I would usually take it as lazy town behavior, but these two have been making jokes for a while. I don't like it.
Seppel apparently invented a card game. No comment on the furry stuff, but awesome job doing something that I hope to do one day.
The Rhand/Generic fight makes me think that Generic is town, mainly because I'm positive that Rhand is scum.
What's up with the Antny wagon? The mod made their stance on inactivity obvious; if he doesn't respond soon, he'll get modkilled. Why end the Day sooner than it has to if the mod will take care of it?
Eh then maybe we should treat that as our deadline and someone put him at L-1 if he doesn't show up in 12 hours so Hawk can hammer?
...You're scum. This isn't town thinking at all. "Hey everyone, let's waste our lynch on an inactive player who'll probably get modkilled anyway, instead of using our remaining deadline wisely and finding scum!"
@Cyan, TK, Rhand: Why did you jump on the Antny wagon?
So SNL is misguided town. Good to know. Also, killjoy as scum doesn't gain anything from being involved in the antny wagon at this point. Antny is clearly dead one way or another..voting him here accomplishes nothing. But it's easy to see some players making the mistake of thinking that opposing the wagon is going to make them look good. And if killjoy is town, then, he doesn't believe antny is scum.
And I got involved in the antny wagon because his one post of any meaningful content was laughably scummy. Here is what antny had to say:
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unvote Shockwave
Not that I don't think he's scummy, his early posting was bad and his wagon justified (I like every vote on it up until Hans'). Since the pressure came off he sunk back into the background.
He unvotes shockwave, and then..says that shock is still scummy, the wagon is justified, and shock got MORE scummy after being wagoned(none of which is true, incidentally). He gives every reason in the world to KEEP voting Shock, but doesn't. This is a hugely inconsistent mindset that almost always means the person is scum. And his complete disappearance after promising 'cases' on myself, tk, and hans also looks bad. This is all textbook scum.
Again, if you would like accurate vote counts, put all votes (and unvotes) on separate lines. If you would like inaccurate vote counts, by all means continue what you're doing.
I think I have a clear view on how you see Antny now. Kind of has me hoping he'll flip soon, but I won't push for a lynch.
I still have my doubts that Killjoy is scum based on his reasons for voting TK earlier, I could see a scum reason for not seeing the whole picture of Niv's earlier post, cherry picking to either get a poor vote on a teammate, or to generate some heat on a town player.
For reference, I haven't got a set opinion on Niv, but am looking through his posts now to get a better look at his mindset.
@Cyan, TK, Rhand: Why did you jump on the Antny wagon?
Really? I explained in my vote post. Here, let me quote for you...
"I find someone completely scummy, but I'm going to vote for someone else".
If you see someone being scummy after the pressure is off, why not reapply pressure and see if they crack? It's possible they had a momentary lapse, but it's impossible to find out if you just leave them alone. It reads as if Antny is giving Shockwave a pass on any bad behavior, but still mentions it for TOWN POINTS.
"I totally thought he was scummy first, so I totally must be town. I was just going after an easier lynch."
In return, why are you so certain Rhand is mafia? I haven't been able to decide which of the pair I dislike more.
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So eh... Someone not on the wagon vote Antny so Hawk can hammer pls.
I fully realise that this is a lynch that might not happen if Antny had claimed, but the day is gonna end soon with his death anyways and we seem to have a pr that wants to be the hammer.
I was hoping we could have a modkill and a lynch for information to go by, but the misses has spoken he plans.
And before the burn notice falls I want to say two thing, one serious and game related, the other a somewhat serious, somewhat not non-game relevant observation.
1) Rhand: I double checked Hawk's posts and I have no indication from them that he is a PR. At best I can determine he is really wanting the hammer. On top of that I am unused to Hammer based PR's other than in Specialties. So I have even further doubts based on that. But as always I could be wrong, time will tell.
2) Cyan: I wanted to say this earlier, be careful with run together words in hash tags. Look at it again looking for other words within to see what I mean
Why are you making posts like this?
Probably Killjoy and Generic.
Possibilities to cover either of the probablies (or if the team is bigger): Hawk and Antny.
Cyan, Hunger, and Wheat are definitely town. Hansanator and Rhand are likely town.
I don't recall Seppel, TK, Cantrip, or SNL providing anything of worth in this game.
And if this current statement is as good as middle finger so be it.
I know you don't like me as town I don't care and will work at my own damn pace to get back in this thing. I also need to make sure I am getting the details right.
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@Seppel and Furoticon: Maybe I was a little out of line with how I reacted, but I am not a fan of people flaunting sexuality, furry or human. It sets off something in me similar to how you reacted to the Family Guy Mafia. It's not that I have a problem with people enjoying Furaffinity or such (as it appears you're a member as well), but I feel that such things as XXX images and videos shouldn't be linked to SFW sites.
Rant done. Enjoy your card game that you have a personal card in, but let's get something going.
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Why are you making posts like this?
I am feeling better about Karn and Generic, feeling good about Niv, leaning town on Hawk.
Real life has been ridiculous. My apologies.
Except for Seppel and Generic. They're very busy with ignoring my questions.
My changing opinion of you is not based on nothing. I very clearly stated what I had a problem with and you just keep hand-waving and swearing at me instead of trying to defend yourself.
You can say **** logic all you want, but it's still going to be there regardless. I think my logic is pretty good and I brought up a valid point. You have yet to show otherwise, so I don't know what else to tell you. If you just want to write me off and treat me with contempt that's fine, but I don't think it's going to help you look any better. That is, if you even care to look better, which I'm questioning at this point.
Because his points against you are almost all meta and some of what I was agreeing with was also based on my meta-read of you. I even stated that one of my biggest issues with you, you being on your backfoot in the argument, was scummy due to meta reasons and your similar play in a game in which you were scum.
As for SNL, it should be pretty obvious if you were paying attention: And he has done nothing since. You asking to elaborate feels a bit forced to be honest.
Keep it up with the potshots and fear-mongering, it's really working out well for you so far.
I am going to answer it for you, but be warned, I'm going to be using some of that ol' logic you so detest.
The reason for voting Antny are pretty obvious at this point. I don't really have any question why Rhand switched his vote to him. He was voting you on basically OMGUS because you goaded him into it. He even said as much before switching his vote to Antny. There is nothing there for me to question.
You, on the other hand, were all-in on Rhand, 1 v 1, me or him, won't let down. Then when you switch your vote to Antny and make a comment about Seppel's post being funny. If you are town that cares about looking town and having your reads taken seriously, I would have expected you to say something along the lines of: Rhand is still for sure scum and I want him to hang, but Antny also looks really bad for that post and I want him to answer for it. Like I said, to me it looks like your conviction on Rhand is now out the window and so I question the legitimacy of your scum read on him. It doesn't make you scum for sure, but I wanted to question you on it because it didn't look good to me. Then your reactions to it have been equally awful, making me reevaluate my read on you. Right now this is how the options looks to me:
1. You are scum playing the over-aggressive and inconsistent game that you can say is just too care-free to actually be scum. Writing off any arguments against you as you just don't give a ****.
2. You are trying to look bad to acquire votes, whether it's to get in debates because you like the attention and feel like you can figure people out better that way, or you have a PR that necessitates you acquiring votes. This isn't alignment indicative on it's own.
3. You are town trying to draw some heat so that you don't eat a NK.
There is also the option that you are playing poorly as town while thinking you are actually playing well, but I would like to think you are a better player than that. So I am trying to work out what I think is mostly likely because I don't have a great read on your alignment yet.
@Generic - 270 is exactly what I meant when I said in 272 the bit about, "if you were town I would expect you to say something like:" It was never your vote of Antny in a vacuum I had a problem with. It was your seeming 180 on Rhand without addressing it.
Hey Scarbo can I gain the ability to call in a miracle and make antny post?
If he does not respond to this prod within 24 hours I will be forced
to find a replacementto consider a modkill and end the Day given his current situation.If he self-hammers, the result is the same. If a non-Hawk player hammers, that's a scumclaim.
@Hawk: you need to hammer, right?
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And someone else hammering doesn't automatically make that person scum(especially if antny flips scum himself). It just means that they are inattentive. I hate trying to figure those situations out, and would prefer to let the mod resolve it normally.
That having been said, if hawk IS being serious about needing to hammer, I'm not like completely opposed to it..I don't think it's a good idea, but if enough other people do, I'm not going to stand in the way.
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It's because we're ready to lynch him for a single post. All of us. There is like, no one opposed to this, period. And that just doesn't happen, which worries me.
My disappointment knows no bounds.
Yeh, we did. Why are you asking?
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I really don't like the antny wagon. It seems to have sprung for very little.
I also wanna lynch Cyan. He's purposefully ignoring my questions and seems to just be passively letting others do the work.
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Oh don't worry. When your scumbuddy antny is dead, you'll still be next. Just because I got distracted doesn't mean that I've forgotten about you.
Can you give reason or point to a previous post as to why you feel Killjoy is a scumbudy of a currently still employed Antny223?
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Unvote, Vote Cyan
For Reference:
And now let's disect his latest musing: I haven't done anything to appear less scummy... if anything, I'm more scummy? Based on no evidence? Seriously?
Also, I'm curious... can you restate your view of Antny please? Why is he scum?
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Nice try.
I didn't "jump" on the Antny wagon. Read my posts.
This is flagging me big time!
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Man, what is it with you people?
@Killjoy: too lazy to check on my phone. Who were you voting before?
Hawk: What happens if you vote without hammering?
So SNL is misguided town. Good to know. Also, killjoy as scum doesn't gain anything from being involved in the antny wagon at this point. Antny is clearly dead one way or another..voting him here accomplishes nothing. But it's easy to see some players making the mistake of thinking that opposing the wagon is going to make them look good. And if killjoy is town, then, he doesn't believe antny is scum.
And I got involved in the antny wagon because his one post of any meaningful content was laughably scummy. Here is what antny had to say:
He unvotes shockwave, and then..says that shock is still scummy, the wagon is justified, and shock got MORE scummy after being wagoned(none of which is true, incidentally). He gives every reason in the world to KEEP voting Shock, but doesn't. This is a hugely inconsistent mindset that almost always means the person is scum. And his complete disappearance after promising 'cases' on myself, tk, and hans also looks bad. This is all textbook scum.
Again, if you would like accurate vote counts, put all votes (and unvotes) on separate lines. If you would like inaccurate vote counts, by all means continue what you're doing.
I still have my doubts that Killjoy is scum based on his reasons for voting TK earlier, I could see a scum reason for not seeing the whole picture of Niv's earlier post, cherry picking to either get a poor vote on a teammate, or to generate some heat on a town player.
For reference, I haven't got a set opinion on Niv, but am looking through his posts now to get a better look at his mindset.
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Really? I explained in my vote post. Here, let me quote for you...
In return, why are you so certain Rhand is mafia? I haven't been able to decide which of the pair I dislike more.
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Generic (1): Cantripmancer
Antny223 (7): Wheat_Grinder, Seppel, Hunger, Generic, Cyan, TK-421, Rhand (B-2)
Cyan (1): Killjoy
TK-421 (1): Niv
Rhand (1): SelesnyaNewLife
Seppel (1): Shockwave07
Shockwave07 (1): Sir Karn
Not voting (3): hansanator, Antny223, 7hawk77
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to burn.
Antny223's incipient modkill will occur in approximately 4 hours, at 1406 EDT. At that point Day 1 will end and Night 1 will begin.
I fully realise that this is a lynch that might not happen if Antny had claimed, but the day is gonna end soon with his death anyways and we seem to have a pr that wants to be the hammer.
Nice fish, no thanks.
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I was hoping we could have a modkill and a lynch for information to go by, but the misses has spoken he plans.
And before the burn notice falls I want to say two thing, one serious and game related, the other a somewhat serious, somewhat not non-game relevant observation.
1) Rhand: I double checked Hawk's posts and I have no indication from them that he is a PR. At best I can determine he is really wanting the hammer. On top of that I am unused to Hammer based PR's other than in Specialties. So I have even further doubts based on that. But as always I could be wrong, time will tell.
2) Cyan: I wanted to say this earlier, be careful with run together words in hash tags. Look at it again looking for other words within to see what I mean
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Spider-Man Mafia 3 (Off-Site: NGA)
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