KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
This isn't ego. I caught Proph Day 1. If we can I'd like to get a Perfect Town Win outta this. If now, lynching Sneaky and waiting till there's no NightKill works for me too, but is less optimal.
My case on Proph says more than enough to lynch him.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
This isn't ego. I caught Proph Day 1. If we can I'd like to get a Perfect Town Win outta this. If now, lynching Sneaky and waiting till there's no NightKill works for me too, but is less optimal.
My case on Proph says more than enough to lynch him.
And, this is a terrible attitude, by the way. I don't know if your board rewards such poor Town thinking, but winning is what is important. If I roleblocked proph tonight... you lynch proph today... they kill me tonight and proph is town... you just opened the door for a scenario Scum CAN win.
You are willing to lose the game to try to go for a "Perfect Win" when a foolproof to assure a win is ahead of you.
This isn't ego. I caught Proph Day 1. If we can I'd like to get a Perfect Town Win outta this. If now, lynching Sneaky and waiting till there's no NightKill works for me too, but is less optimal.
My case on Proph says more than enough to lynch him.
you are so dumb I almost posted with my main account.
This isn't ego. I caught Proph Day 1. If we can I'd like to get a Perfect Town Win outta this. If now, lynching Sneaky and waiting till there's no NightKill works for me too, but is less optimal.
My case on Proph says more than enough to lynch him.
And, this is a terrible attitude, by the way. I don't know if your board rewards such poor Town thinking, but winning is what is important. If I roleblocked proph tonight... you lynch proph today... they kill me tonight and proph is town... you just opened the door for a scenario Scum CAN win.
You are willing to lose the game to try to go for a "Perfect Win" when a foolproof to assure a win is ahead of you.
Like I said, lynching Proph tonight is prefered for me, but waiting till your ability confirms him as scum works for me too.
But you have a point. I didn't realize that opened up the door for scum that much.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
here's the relevant portion:
"So. The third scum was dead. One of the scum used a special Night kill. The other has no abilities. THEREFORE, the scum have no role cop, or, if the Ninja also has a role cop ability, they could not have used it N1. THUS, Prophylaxis's miller claim necessarily comes with zero knowledge of the cop. We can agree that such a claim makes little sense without knowledge of a cop, right? So, Proph can be written off as town."
The bolded is relevant. How can I say this with confidence?
Play with me: Once per Night, you may submit the name of another player to me. That player will take no actions that night. You may not take this action if you submit the night kill.
Guilty Conscience: If lynched, the person who hammers you will die.
The third scum is not dead. Why couldn't have ITF used the nightkill instead then? ITF was a Goon. He probably didn't use it N2, because Nightkill, but he certainly likely used it N1.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Pretty sure Killjoy is town. Ending RVS tends to be a town-tell and I've gotten a strong trying-to-figure-stuff-out vibe from his posts.
I don't think that ITF would auto-clear a scumbuddy from his first post. It's much more comfortable to label town town. Thus, I doubt that killjoy is scum.
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I dunno, I've felt his questions and thought process have been genuine. The way he backed off GS read as cautious town, and he's been asking a lot of questions I want to ask. I don't know what you think he's faking.
Yeah he shoots higher than corrik or GS in my book.
I don't want to be overcome by confirmation bias here (which is why I want someone to check my work) but these interactions all look "safe" to me:
Quote from ITF »
Hmm, what was funny/off about Proph's analysis?
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Day 1 massclaims are dumb. Very occasionally, there's a setup that can be broken by it, but more often it's bad for the town and it makes everybody spend way too much time modgaming. Either way, it makes the game way less fun and not really the way it's meant to be played.
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Mini's can any complexity, it depends on the mod. Some games are half vanilla with all "standard" roles, some have all custom roles with no vanillas.
As for the massclaim... we have one role claimed. Even knowing your own role, there's no way you can know that a massclaim would be beneficial.
One-liner, no explanation comments are okay sometimes, but when they're justification for a wagon vote on somebody, you gotta give some real reasons. Again, what was off/hilarious about Proph's analysis?
Quote from ITF »
Right now, I really want to see more from HookerPunch and Shockwave.
"Right now, I really want to hear from TOWNIE and SCUMBUDDY".
His vote on HP also felt over-explanatory. Almost like his vote on Arian.
Quote from ITF »
On HookerPunch/Pizza: My notes on Pizza:
[spoiler]-first post, mostly focuses on RVS, and ends up barning Proph's weak vote on Antny. He is reading very deeply into those RVS votes.
-Kinda omguses Fern... again the vote's pretty bad. Only reason given is "mudslinging", which Fern wasn't even doing. Again, reads very deep into some things
-Apologizes and goes back on the Antny read, which looks a lot like abandoning a wagon that isn't gaining any steam. Calls for Proph or Fern lynch; Fern makes sense (given that he's voting him), but Proph really doesn't. It seems like his reasoning for Proph is that Proph called Pizza out. This comes at a point when Proph is getting some suspicion on him.
-(120) Reacts harshly to Antny's point against him. He's very self-consious; whenever anybody says something slightly bad about him he attacks them.
Hookerpunch himself joins the Proph wagon with very little reasoning given. The reason he does give (proph being off his game/wrong) I completely disagree with. When asked about stuff further, he's generally unhelpful. He says that this is his meta, which might be partly true, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's town. Combined with Pizza's play, I want to pressure him further.
I went looking for the signups thread because I seem to remember amidst all of the standard pregame joshing that Generic + Proph = GS, which would now mean that that account is just Generic. However, the signups thread seems to have disappeared -- and it isn't in the "Old Signup Threads" subforum, either. If GS is Generic, then I would say that his play so far aligns roughly with what I would expect.
Killjoy, can you expand on #20, please -- specifically why you chose to end RVS at that point?
This post is useless. I understand Killjoy asking who GS was to get a better read on him, but speculating on it isn't going to do anything.
The question to Killjoy is obvious if you read his post; he saw something scummy so he ended RVS. Why else would someone end RVS?
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There's an inconsistency.
He doesn't think I'm part of the Graduating Schoolgirl hydra as evidenced by his first RVS post, but he thinks that Graduating Schoolgirl is a hydra, despite me being the only one to request to hydra with GS.
If he doesn't think that I'm a part of a hydra with GS, then who did he think that GS is a hydra of?
Okay... where's the scum motivation? If Antny was scum, why would he fake not knowing that GS is not a hydra this game?
Or alternatively, why would scum be more likely to forget GS is not a hydra?
Quote from Proph »
It's a classic scum "lust for information". Your question had no real scumhunting purpose, and scum are afraid of the unknown in a way town aren't. Scum will attempt to in some way remove the unknowns, which is what Antny was trying to do here (deduct GS's identity).
But town have a perfectly legitimate reason for asking; in order to better read the person. Especially given that Antny puts pressure on Killjoy in the same post, I can't see it as a real scumtell.
Why didn't you bring up Killjoy or Arianrod on this?
@Proph:
I don't think you're scum. I just don't know what you are. I know you're a skilled enough player that if you were scum, you'd stay away from Antny, not engage him. You might've slipped, but that seems like a very rook mistake, and if that's the case, it'll come out eventually. For now, you're a null read in my book -- null in that you have +s and -s which are canceling each other out.
Proph clearly doesn't see Antny as a soft target (and Antny isn't really playing like a soft target either). And even if Proph did, skilled players go after soft targets all the time. You're being really WIFOMy in this reason for being unsure on Proph and it feels really forced.
Vote Arianrhod
I want you to specifically say what is +s and -s for you on Proph.
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Reactions from Arianrhod:
Sneaky isn't scum. His explosion on sneaky would be really odd from scumbuddies.
His scumlist was pretty lukewarm on everyone. I don't think Antny or Proph are scum from looking at the list, because his reasons for thinking they're town are much more gut than anything.
I'm leaning towards Hookerpunch being town as well. Bussing is possible, but his interactions with Hooker don't look like bussing to me.
Atm I want to look at GS, Fulcrum and Fernath further.
LOOK AT THAT ESCAPE HATCH.
Overall, my gut is telling me that Natirasha is town, but it's everything I have. All of my behavioral evidence points to him being scum (read the Pizza case, if you aren't convinced) and I could be confirmation biasing on the interactions, but that bit me in a game before and I'm not letting it bite me again.
Vote Natirasha
If he's town, I guess we can look at sneaky? I don't think ITF would auto-clear someone with such finality like this:
Sneaky isn't scum. His explosion on sneaky would be really odd from scumbuddies.
His scumlist was pretty lukewarm on everyone. I don't think Antny or Proph are scum from looking at the list, because his reasons for thinking they're town are much more gut than anything.
I'm leaning towards Hookerpunch being town as well. Bussing is possible, but his interactions with Hooker don't look like bussing to me.
Atm I want to look at GS, Fulcrum and Fernath further.
I really, really, don't think Nati is going to flip town, though.
killjoy is a terrible lynch. Everything I've seen points to him being town.
I did some shower thinking and I'm even more confident that Natirasha is scum. No one else makes logical sense as scum, and everyone has something that points favorably to them except.. Natirasha.
I have made it clear I don't give a single care in the world which of Killjoy, Hooker, or Sneaky is lynched. I have made it clear I will vote any regardless of reasoning, play, thoughts, etc. Yet, every time we get one of them -1 you all deadlock the game into not progressing by posting reasoning, feels, etc for why we should lynch one of the other ones instead of the ones we are on currently. It is needlessly prolonging this game, and it is irritating me beyond belief.
If you actually believe it gives two craps which one of those three we lynch today, then you do not buy what I say... so why haven't you all lynched me yet? Seriously, this should be as simple as 4 votes in less than 10 minutes... Result... and either win... or repeat once more for the win.
I mean if we wanna lynch me I'm fine with it. I'm with corrik that this game is essentially solved and we just need to choose one of use three and go from there.
I mean if we wanna lynch me I'm fine with it. I'm with corrik that this game is essentially solved and we just need to choose one of use three and go from there.
Literally more Town than anything you other 3 have posted combined.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I know you are here, Killjoy. Why are you saying you would die on the sword for the win... but, yet, you refuse to do so when you have the ability to do so? The opportunity is right here... Actions speak louder than words.
While we /can/ win the game by lynching killjoy/Nati/sneaky in short succession, I'm of the opinion that we should narrow down the playing field as possible through the three types of analysis (behavioral, interaction, votes) before we lynch. You guys have 48 hour days. I've played on a site with exceedingly short day lengths before (still do, on one of them :P) and the short time frame simply means that we can't be patient or methodical in our analysis. Literally the games involved in short day lengths are "pounce on the guy that displayed the scummiest behavior within a 48 hour time period" which.. doesn't really give the lynchee breathing room to fight back.
I'd prefer to narrow the playing field down by behavioral PoE, then lynching and securing a town victory through hard analysis, than to lynch with no discussion and risk the chance of overthinking/paranoia to beset our very comfortable position right now. Your approach is very complacent (lynch through this pile and we win) and I'd prefer to double check that to see if you're right, since I speak from personal experience that good starts can fall apart very quickly if the town becomes complacent. (Pleasantville, CCM 7, Apocalypse come to mind)
Why are you goading killjoy to self-vote? Self voting is moronic and dumb, and killjoy is not being lynched toDay. He is thoroughly cleared via behavior and interactions, and this is a terrible lynch. He's town, and you're driving town into a mislynch.
I'll absolutely fight against lynches that I think are bad, and killjoy is a bad lynch.
Put the posturing in check, reread and actually /think/ about the game, and let's put the game away by lynching someone who actually has a reasonable chance of being scum.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
You will, Killjoy. Thank god someone had the balls to do what you did before I lost it. My game on my other board in day 1 of 48 hour days has over 2700 posts already. This slow a few posts every few days crap is beyond risiculous and annoying. No offense to you guys as ypu clearly enjoy it, buy it has me ready to tear my hair out. I am roleblocking sneaky for tomorrow. I better be nightkilled because I can't tale another day phase like that.
I hate town self-hammers
But a scum self-hammer makes no sense here, so town self-hammer is probably what it is.
This plan better works. Sneaky is the correct choice for blocking because I think Natarisha is the last scum and he's the default lynch toMorrow. Proph's analysis confirmed my read. If not Natarisha, I'm pretty sure it's Proph and then we have it solved toNight.
@Corrik: I haven't played on other sites so I only have experience with how this works here.
But yeh, I do enjoy it. I can't imagine you have time to thoroughly analyse who to best lynch when days are so short.
"I have a plan," Corrik said to the group, "but the plan requires sacrifice."
"It would be my duty, and honor, in the name of Lord Eddard, House Stark, and Winterfell." Killjoy had stepped forward, laying his own head on the block before anyone could react.
It was over in a heartbeat.
Killjoy is dead he was:
Ser Rodrick Cassel - Town Vanilla
It is now Night. DO NOT POST. Actions will be due within 48 hours. I will start the game earlier if/when all are received.
The enemy was growing more brash, now, perhaps emboldened by previous evenings. This morning, Corrik was found laying in the middle of a nondescript corridor. There was no attempt to hide him; a message was being sent. Sent by his father to serve and protect Winterfell, he did all that he could. Would his sacrifice be enough?
As the group gathered for now the fourth time in as many days, the pressure of time began to sink in. There was no telling how much longer until the ill fated randezvous would take place.
Corrik is dead he was:
Jojen Reed – Town Anticipator
Abilities:
Greensight of Preparation: Each Night, you may send to me the name of a player. That player’s action the following Night will fail.
It is now the Dawning of Day 4. You may post. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
I'm putting corrik on ignore since he doesn't seem to want to do anything useful.
Let's rectify this.
Either way, we're all gonna burn
My case on Proph says more than enough to lynch him.
Did. Doesn't matter. He is roleblocked tonight. There are not 2 more scum. Wasting time making arguments on someone there is no point to lynch.
And, this is a terrible attitude, by the way. I don't know if your board rewards such poor Town thinking, but winning is what is important. If I roleblocked proph tonight... you lynch proph today... they kill me tonight and proph is town... you just opened the door for a scenario Scum CAN win.
You are willing to lose the game to try to go for a "Perfect Win" when a foolproof to assure a win is ahead of you.
you are so dumb I almost posted with my main account.
I'll be back in two hours.
Like I said, lynching Proph tonight is prefered for me, but waiting till your ability confirms him as scum works for me too.
But you have a point. I didn't realize that opened up the door for scum that much.
Also maybe it WAS a bit of ego.
Probably Night 1 on Antny. That would be why he claimed Day 2.
Sure. If you guys want. I'll gladly fall on the sword. We win tomorrow when Proph gets confirmed as scum anyway.
vote killjoy
here's the relevant portion:
"So. The third scum was dead. One of the scum used a special Night kill. The other has no abilities. THEREFORE, the scum have no role cop, or, if the Ninja also has a role cop ability, they could not have used it N1. THUS, Prophylaxis's miller claim necessarily comes with zero knowledge of the cop. We can agree that such a claim makes little sense without knowledge of a cop, right? So, Proph can be written off as town."
The bolded is relevant. How can I say this with confidence?
boom roasted.
can i eat it
Either way, we're all gonna burn
Unvote;
Vote: Killjoy
I will roleblock sneaky for tomorrow night.
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Breaking this down:
I noted a couple of interactions.
I don't think that ITF would auto-clear a scumbuddy from his first post. It's much more comfortable to label town town. Thus, I doubt that killjoy is scum.
Yeah he shoots higher than corrik or GS in my book.
I don't want to be overcome by confirmation bias here (which is why I want someone to check my work) but these interactions all look "safe" to me:
"Right now, I really want to hear from TOWNIE and SCUMBUDDY".
His vote on HP also felt over-explanatory. Almost like his vote on Arian.
Hookerpunch himself joins the Proph wagon with very little reasoning given. The reason he does give (proph being off his game/wrong) I completely disagree with. When asked about stuff further, he's generally unhelpful. He says that this is his meta, which might be partly true, but I haven't seen anything that makes me think he's town. Combined with Pizza's play, I want to pressure him further.
Vote HookerPunch [/quote]
vs
LOOK AT THAT ESCAPE HATCH.
Overall, my gut is telling me that Natirasha is town, but it's everything I have. All of my behavioral evidence points to him being scum (read the Pizza case, if you aren't convinced) and I could be confirmation biasing on the interactions, but that bit me in a game before and I'm not letting it bite me again.
Vote Natirasha
If he's town, I guess we can look at sneaky? I don't think ITF would auto-clear someone with such finality like this:
I really, really, don't think Nati is going to flip town, though.
Rhand
killjoy
Corrik
Graduating Schoolgirl
sneakyhomunculus
Natirasha
^^^ my PoE list.
I did some shower thinking and I'm even more confident that Natirasha is scum. No one else makes logical sense as scum, and everyone has something that points favorably to them except.. Natirasha.
Because Shockwave provided a reads list, and the way that Arianrhod went after your slot makes me think that the both of you are unaligned.
I think this is a good quote:
Stop with the theatrics, and just tell me what your read on Natirasha/HookerPunch is, and why you won't lynch him.
If you actually believe it gives two craps which one of those three we lynch today, then you do not buy what I say... so why haven't you all lynched me yet? Seriously, this should be as simple as 4 votes in less than 10 minutes... Result... and either win... or repeat once more for the win.
This game could have been over already.
Either way, we're all gonna burn
Literally more Town than anything you other 3 have posted combined.
I believe that this is a difference in site meta.
While we /can/ win the game by lynching killjoy/Nati/sneaky in short succession, I'm of the opinion that we should narrow down the playing field as possible through the three types of analysis (behavioral, interaction, votes) before we lynch. You guys have 48 hour days. I've played on a site with exceedingly short day lengths before (still do, on one of them :P) and the short time frame simply means that we can't be patient or methodical in our analysis. Literally the games involved in short day lengths are "pounce on the guy that displayed the scummiest behavior within a 48 hour time period" which.. doesn't really give the lynchee breathing room to fight back.
I'd prefer to narrow the playing field down by behavioral PoE, then lynching and securing a town victory through hard analysis, than to lynch with no discussion and risk the chance of overthinking/paranoia to beset our very comfortable position right now. Your approach is very complacent (lynch through this pile and we win) and I'd prefer to double check that to see if you're right, since I speak from personal experience that good starts can fall apart very quickly if the town becomes complacent. (Pleasantville, CCM 7, Apocalypse come to mind)
Why are you goading killjoy to self-vote? Self voting is moronic and dumb, and killjoy is not being lynched toDay. He is thoroughly cleared via behavior and interactions, and this is a terrible lynch. He's town, and you're driving town into a mislynch.
I'll absolutely fight against lynches that I think are bad, and killjoy is a bad lynch.
Put the posturing in check, reread and actually /think/ about the game, and let's put the game away by lynching someone who actually has a reasonable chance of being scum.
killjoy is not that person.
Natirasha is.
I have a feeling that Corrick is the final scum. Hopefully he's not though.
killjoy (4): Graduating Schoolgirl, HookerPunch, corrik, killjoy
...inexplicable.
Will post vote count and lynch scene in the morning. It is twilight - you may still post.
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
@killjoy
When you see the spectator chat please state to yourself:
Either way, we're all gonna burn
But a scum self-hammer makes no sense here, so town self-hammer is probably what it is.
This plan better works. Sneaky is the correct choice for blocking because I think Natarisha is the last scum and he's the default lynch toMorrow. Proph's analysis confirmed my read. If not Natarisha, I'm pretty sure it's Proph and then we have it solved toNight.
@Corrik: I haven't played on other sites so I only have experience with how this works here.
But yeh, I do enjoy it. I can't imagine you have time to thoroughly analyse who to best lynch when days are so short.
HookerPunch (2): SneakyHomunculus (#715), Prophylaxis (#778)
Killjoy (4): Graduating Schoolgirl (#767), HookerPunch (#776), Corrik (#777), Killjoy (#792)
Not Voting (1): Rhand
That's a lynch. Scene forthcoming, please DO NOT POST.
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
"It would be my duty, and honor, in the name of Lord Eddard, House Stark, and Winterfell." Killjoy had stepped forward, laying his own head on the block before anyone could react.
It was over in a heartbeat.
Killjoy is dead he was:
It is now Night. DO NOT POST. Actions will be due within 48 hours. I will start the game earlier if/when all are received.
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
As the group gathered for now the fourth time in as many days, the pressure of time began to sink in. There was no telling how much longer until the ill fated randezvous would take place.
Corrik is dead he was:
Abilities:
Greensight of Preparation: Each Night, you may send to me the name of a player. That player’s action the following Night will fail.
It is now the Dawning of Day 4. You may post. With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player