1. There are no alignment-changing roles, jesters, cults, or other nonsense like that in this game.
2. No post editing, no PM quoting. No discussing the game with anybody aside from me and people specifically outlined in your role PM, and only at the time and in the manner specified.
3. If you are dead, do not post or communicate with anybody about the game in any form. You may post a single "bah" post, provided that it does not contain any game-related material.
4. Lynch will be reached with a majority vote. No amount of unvoting will stop this.
5. If you need me to respond to something directly, please PM me. I probably won't respond to any question in-thread unless it is incredibly basic (e.g., a vote count mishap). Don't be surprised if the answer you get isn't what you expected.
6. Respect the spirit of the game and do not engage in any out-of-game behavior. Use of anything such as activity stalking or attempting to get yourself modkilled will result in a modkill, blacklisting from all of my future games, and recommendation that you be put on probation.
7. Please bold your votes. Unvote before voting for somebody else. Make all votes on a new line. If you do not follow these rules I will not count your vote.
8. If a deadline for a lynch is reached without a majority, the Day will end in No Lynch. If you fail to submit a Night action by the deadline, it will not be counted, even if I take a while to get to resolving it. Please inform me if you wish to take no action at Night.
9. Please title all game action-related PMs with "Return to Ravnica Mafia," "RTR Mafia," or similar and include the current Phase. If it's just a question, don't worry about anything like that.
10. Please do not use the forum's "thanking" feature to "thank" any other player's post. You may thank my posts as much as you like, however.
Credit for the rules goes to all of the fantastic mafia mods out there I wish I could be like.
1. You, in addition to receiving a role PM, will receive a guild letter. This letter will have a brief flavor blurb and specify which of the five Return to Ravnica guilds you are a member of ( or ). Your guild may have impact on gameplay. Guilds do not impact win conditions. Guilds do not change during the course of the game.
2. For the most part, roles are independent of Guilds. That is, any particular role could be assigned any of the 5 Guilds depending on the randomizer. I do not recommend modgaming based on Guild assignments, as you will be going up against Random.org, not me. Until the morning I made this thread, even I did not know which Guild went with which role. Guilds will be revealed on death.
3. You may not quote your role PM. You also may not quote your guild letter. You may quote your role name and your guild name, however.
4. The Town win condition is: "You win when you have eliminated all threats to the town."
5. The Scum win condition is: "You win when you control the vote."
1. Each Day phase will have a deadline. Deadlines for each game Day will be equal to the number of living players that Day, with a minimum length of 7 days.
2. Night phases will last 72 hours until half of the players are dead, at which point they will be shortened to 48 hours. Toward the end of the game, Nights may move more quickly than this depending on how swiftly actions are given to me.
3. During the game, there are up to three deadline extensions available. These extensions may be requested by the players at any time in the thread, and may be granted at my sole discretion. Don't be mad if I say no.
The options are as follows:
A: 24 hours per player OR 7 days, whichever is shorter.Granted on Day Three.
B: 72 hours
C: 24 hours
Extension Rules:
- Once a particular extension is used, it cannot be used again that same game.
- Any number of extensions can be used in the same game Day.
- If the players do not specify which extension they wish to use (or if there is no consensus on which one to use), I will pick the remaining option highest up on the list.
- Extensions are appended to the deadline time. There's no need to strategically time when the request is made.
- At least two players must request an extension for it to be considered.
Player Responsibilities
1. Follow the rules. If you break a rule, you will almost certainly be modkilled. This is your warning.
2. Play clean and ask me before doing anything that could even potentially run afoul of these rules. Ask me before doing something that is "usually" against the rules that I may have omitted from mine accidentally.
3. Have fun, but make sure that your fun does not infringe upon the fun of others.
4. Post regularly, at least once every 72 hours at a bare minimum.
5. PM me with any questions. Don't assume.
6. Inform me if players need prods. Failure to post after 72 hours is grounds for a prod.
7. Inform me if I have made an error with a vote count or other action.
Mod Responsibilities
1. Handle all game actions swiftly and correctly.
2. Provide regular and accurate vote counts.
3. Respond to all PMs and other communication within a reasonable period.
4. Provide links to waypoints, thread title updates, and other thread upkeep.
5. Issue prods and locate replacements if needed.
You are Faerie Impostor, Citizen of Ravnica "Made you look!"
Abilities:
1. You may vote.
Hustling and Bustling (2/16)
4. Cantripmancer*, Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, Mafia Guild Master - Victorious
14. Sir Karn*, Stealer of Secrets Mafia Spy - Victorious A * denotes a prod. Three *s will lead to replacement.
Visiting Agyrem (14)
13. SelesnyaNewLife, Guttersnipe, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day One
12. Scarbo, Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Town Guild Master - Killed Night One
2. AsianInvasion, Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius, Mafia Guild Master - Lynched Day Two
8. Hunger, Isperia, Supreme Judge, Town Guild Master - Killed Night Two
9. KoolKoal, Tavern Swindler, Town Gambler - Killed Night Three
16. LnGrrrR (r. Void), Ogre Jailbreaker, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day Four
3. Axelrod, Oak Street Innkeeper, Citizen of Ravnica - Killed Night Four
6. dkingsland 967 (r. Cythare), Palisade Giant, Town Bodyguard - Killed Night Four
7. Dagaen, Vraska the Unseen, Neutral Hitman - Won and left the game Night Four
5. Cyouni, Crosstown Courier, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day Five
1. Archmage Eternal, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Town Guild Master - Killed Night Five
10. masterplum, Ash Zealot, Town Iconoclast - Lynched Day Six
11. Rhand (r. RobRoy*), Axebane Guardian, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day Three, Revived Night Three, Endgamed.
15. TK-421*, Centaur's Herald, Citizen of Ravnica - Endgamed
Still Fighting off Werewolves
1. The Most Curious Thing
2. Iso
3. Antny223
To navigate the thread, please click this link to view all of my posts in-thread.
My latest intelligence tells me that they believe there are a few "rebels" who are behind the anarchy. This small group is pushing to fracture the Guilds beyond repair and scuttle any hope of restoration of peace. As for why? I have my suspicions, but I don't wish to cloud my judgement a priori.
My arrival yesterday seems to have only agitated these "rebels" further. I expect nothing short of a bloodbath at this point. Direct intervention would not be wise, so my only option is to move as quickly as I can to find what I'm looking for before Ravnica collapses in on itself.
This post contains no subliminal messages of any kind.
Vote: Hunger b/c I don't know you.
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Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
Stop this nonsense. English only please. Read the OP.
How am I missing whatever's in the OP that you're referring to?
"Player and Mod Responsibilities"
2. Play clean and ask me before doing anything that could even potentially run afoul of these rules. Ask me before doing something that is "usually" against the rules that I may have omitted from mine accidentally.
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Can we have Megiddo removed from the forum forever please?
i'm pretty sure i can find your ***** online within 3 minutes
Stop this nonsense. English only please. Read the OP.
How am I missing whatever's in the OP that you're referring to?
"Player and Mod Responsibilities"
2. Play clean and ask me before doing anything that could even potentially run afoul of these rules. Ask me before doing something that is "usually" against the rules that I may have omitted from mine accidentally.
I guess I didn't realize that posting in another language was usually against the rules?
I'm only playing this game because I like Meg's games and I like this flavor. I'm getting pickier and pickier about what games I play in after getting burned with a lot of garbage setups recently.
This new forum stuff is going to take some getting used to. I'm going to get a private message everytime someone quotes me in the thread? That will be loads of fun.
And this quoting/previewing system doesn't seem to work very intuitively either.
If I'm doing it right, this is the best post so far.
Ambush Krotiq makes me laugh so much. I keep rereading the card and it keeps not having Flash. In what sense is this an ambush again? I just have visions of this huge Krotiq poorly concealed in some bushes, feeling slightly sad that his carefully planned ambushes never seem to work.
See, RVS never has been a "random" voting stage, first of all because humans are really bad at being random and second because people append silly reasons to their votes when they make them.
Are you required to have a random voting stage here? I don't mind random votes. Honestly I think they have a place even outside of the first couple days.
But usually my random votes are at least funny >_>
I am also seriously seriously tempted to call for a mass day 1, because I have a feeling that it would throttle scum in most games around here.
Buuuut I am a little hesitant to do that with Meg hosting this game after how much I scoffed that we would have been destroyed by a mass as scum in our last game. Doubt he would create a game so easily exploitable after I just called someone out on it.
Masses day 1 can still work in normal games, but not when hosts plan around them. Not sure I want to take that risk on my second game ever on this site
Axel is scum Dagaen is scum and Axel's pulling a classing look-how-towny-my-scum-partner-is line.
I'm voting Dagaen because he looks nervous.
You're voting for Dagaen because he looks nervous to you, which is not nearly enough to call someone outright scum imo, yet you claim he's definite scum and even base your read on Axelrod off of it entirely?
And why are you still tip-toeing around the questions about your previous votes' seriousness? Why did you vote Karn since it apparently wasn't serious? Why didn't you say anything in your vote posts if they weren't serious anyway? Why should we just take your word for it that you were not serious when you waited to see our reactions to your votes before explaining them?
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I'll bet you wish you had a non-unglued/unhinged card that shared your first name.
Oops. I could have sworn that your vote-unvote-vote occurred before that. Sorry.
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Axel is scum Dagaen is scum and Axel's pulling a classing look-how-towny-my-scum-partner-is line.
Rhetorical: How many layers of WIFOM are you applying to Axel's actions? I thought that towning your scum partner was generally viewed as a bad choice, especially early game. I don't see how you can determine Axel's alignment so definitively, especially when we don't know Dagaen's alignment.
@Cantrip: The vote wasn't serious, I was getting my RV in and couldn't think of anything clever to add.
So you were random voting specifically to be on record as participating during RVS?
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So, of the three people voting AsianInvasian, can we assume one is scum?
Why would you think this?
EWP: I tend to see early/RVS/fast wagons as likely having scum on them, but only when they reach a certain threshold (such as L-3 or L-2). So a 4-person wagon in a 12-player game might be concerning, but 3 votes with 16 players/9-to-lynch/L-6? I would be very surprised if any knowledge could be gleaned from it.
Axel is scum Dagaen is scum and Axel's pulling a classing look-how-towny-my-scum-partner-is line.
I'm voting Dagaen because he looks nervous.
You're voting for Dagaen because he looks nervous to you, which is not nearly enough to call someone outright scum imo, yet you claim he's definite scum and even base your read on Axelrod off of it entirely?
And why are you still tip-toeing around the questions about your previous votes' seriousness? Why did you vote Karn since it apparently wasn't serious? Why didn't you say anything in your vote posts if they weren't serious anyway? Why should we just take your word for it that you were not serious when you waited to see our reactions to your votes before explaining them?
Just thinking about responding to you is giving me a massive headache. Why do you care about my votes if I'm telling you they weren't serious?
Just thinking about responding to you is giving me a massive headache. Why do you care about my votes if I'm telling you they weren't serious?
Because you could be lying and actually wanted to push Karn until you decided the Dagaen wagon would be better when no one jumped on Karn with you. Or you could be telling the truth, but we have no decent way to judge that because you left your votes naked. Can you see how naked votes are anti-town? Can you see why continuing not to explain your votes except in the most vague way is anti-town? It looks like you're hiding something from us.
Choose your Guild
2. No post editing, no PM quoting. No discussing the game with anybody aside from me and people specifically outlined in your role PM, and only at the time and in the manner specified.
3. If you are dead, do not post or communicate with anybody about the game in any form. You may post a single "bah" post, provided that it does not contain any game-related material.
4. Lynch will be reached with a majority vote. No amount of unvoting will stop this.
5. If you need me to respond to something directly, please PM me. I probably won't respond to any question in-thread unless it is incredibly basic (e.g., a vote count mishap). Don't be surprised if the answer you get isn't what you expected.
6. Respect the spirit of the game and do not engage in any out-of-game behavior. Use of anything such as activity stalking or attempting to get yourself modkilled will result in a modkill, blacklisting from all of my future games, and recommendation that you be put on probation.
7. Please bold your votes. Unvote before voting for somebody else. Make all votes on a new line. If you do not follow these rules I will not count your vote.
8. If a deadline for a lynch is reached without a majority, the Day will end in No Lynch. If you fail to submit a Night action by the deadline, it will not be counted, even if I take a while to get to resolving it. Please inform me if you wish to take no action at Night.
9. Please title all game action-related PMs with "Return to Ravnica Mafia," "RTR Mafia," or similar and include the current Phase. If it's just a question, don't worry about anything like that.
10. Please do not use the forum's "thanking" feature to "thank" any other player's post. You may thank my posts as much as you like, however.
Credit for the rules goes to all of the fantastic mafia mods out there I wish I could be like.
2. For the most part, roles are independent of Guilds. That is, any particular role could be assigned any of the 5 Guilds depending on the randomizer. I do not recommend modgaming based on Guild assignments, as you will be going up against Random.org, not me. Until the morning I made this thread, even I did not know which Guild went with which role. Guilds will be revealed on death.
3. You may not quote your role PM. You also may not quote your guild letter. You may quote your role name and your guild name, however.
4. The Town win condition is: "You win when you have eliminated all threats to the town."
5. The Scum win condition is: "You win when you control the vote."
2. Night phases will last 72 hours until half of the players are dead, at which point they will be shortened to 48 hours. Toward the end of the game, Nights may move more quickly than this depending on how swiftly actions are given to me.
3. During the game, there are up to three deadline extensions available. These extensions may be requested by the players at any time in the thread, and may be granted at my sole discretion. Don't be mad if I say no.
The options are as follows:
Extension Rules:
- Once a particular extension is used, it cannot be used again that same game.
- Any number of extensions can be used in the same game Day.
- If the players do not specify which extension they wish to use (or if there is no consensus on which one to use), I will pick the remaining option highest up on the list.
- Extensions are appended to the deadline time. There's no need to strategically time when the request is made.
- At least two players must request an extension for it to be considered.
1. Follow the rules. If you break a rule, you will almost certainly be modkilled. This is your warning.
2. Play clean and ask me before doing anything that could even potentially run afoul of these rules. Ask me before doing something that is "usually" against the rules that I may have omitted from mine accidentally.
3. Have fun, but make sure that your fun does not infringe upon the fun of others.
4. Post regularly, at least once every 72 hours at a bare minimum.
5. PM me with any questions. Don't assume.
6. Inform me if players need prods. Failure to post after 72 hours is grounds for a prod.
7. Inform me if I have made an error with a vote count or other action.
Mod Responsibilities
1. Handle all game actions swiftly and correctly.
2. Provide regular and accurate vote counts.
3. Respond to all PMs and other communication within a reasonable period.
4. Provide links to waypoints, thread title updates, and other thread upkeep.
5. Issue prods and locate replacements if needed.
4. Cantripmancer*, Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, Mafia Guild Master - Victorious
14. Sir Karn*, Stealer of Secrets Mafia Spy - Victorious
A * denotes a prod. Three *s will lead to replacement.
Visiting Agyrem (14)
13. SelesnyaNewLife, Guttersnipe, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day One
12. Scarbo, Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Town Guild Master - Killed Night One
2. AsianInvasion, Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius, Mafia Guild Master - Lynched Day Two
8. Hunger, Isperia, Supreme Judge, Town Guild Master - Killed Night Two
9. KoolKoal, Tavern Swindler, Town Gambler - Killed Night Three
16. LnGrrrR (r. Void), Ogre Jailbreaker, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day Four
3. Axelrod, Oak Street Innkeeper, Citizen of Ravnica - Killed Night Four
6. dkingsland 967 (r. Cythare), Palisade Giant, Town Bodyguard - Killed Night Four
7. Dagaen, Vraska the Unseen, Neutral Hitman - Won and left the game Night Four
5. Cyouni, Crosstown Courier, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day Five
1. Archmage Eternal, Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Town Guild Master - Killed Night Five
10. masterplum, Ash Zealot, Town Iconoclast - Lynched Day Six
11. Rhand (r. RobRoy*), Axebane Guardian, Citizen of Ravnica - Lynched Day Three, Revived Night Three, Endgamed.
15. TK-421*, Centaur's Herald, Citizen of Ravnica - Endgamed
Still Fighting off Werewolves
1. The Most Curious Thing
2. Iso
3. Antny223
To navigate the thread, please click this link to view all of my posts in-thread.
My arrival yesterday seems to have only agitated these "rebels" further. I expect nothing short of a bloodbath at this point. Direct intervention would not be wise, so my only option is to move as quickly as I can to find what I'm looking for before Ravnica collapses in on itself.
I just hope that I have enough time.
It is now Day 1.
The deadline is 11:59 PM EST on Tuesday, March 25th.
With 16 alive, it's 9 to lynch!
Hello.
This post contains no subliminal messages of any kind.
Vote: Hunger b/c I don't know you.
Vote Archmage Eternal for being the only player above me on the player list.
Vote AsianInvasion
Draft my cube! (630 cards)
Let's just get this over with
Mod: I would like to request deadline extension C. I feel like we're going to need it.
私は、の侵入を返す必要があります
投票 AsianInvasion
私はちょうどいじりだ
I was just using it to goof off for rvs
Must return, I of the intrusion
Vote AsianInvasion
Google Translate is so useful....
Way too focused on individual glory.
How am I missing whatever's in the OP that you're referring to?
Unvote
Vote Axelrod
2. Play clean and ask me before doing anything that could even potentially run afoul of these rules. Ask me before doing something that is "usually" against the rules that I may have omitted from mine accidentally.
I guess I didn't realize that posting in another language was usually against the rules?
Vote: masterplum
For being the only username without an uppercase first character.
vote AsianInvasion
I'm also voting you because this is the first game we've played in together despite being clanmates .
Vote: Dagaen
Vote: Dagaen
Vote: Sir Karn
I hope you realize, this means war.
Hunger (1): Axelrod
AsianInvasion (3): Cythare, KoolKoal, Dagaen
Cyouni (1): RobRoy
Axelrod (2): Cantripmancer, AsianInvasion
masterplum (1): Hunger
Dagaen (1): Sir Karn
Sir Karn (1): Scarbo
Cythare (1): SelesnyaNewLife
With 16 alive, it's 9 to lynch!
Please inform me if there is an error with any vote count.
Naked vote in RVS does not strike me as RV; serious vote?
Ditto.
Ditto.
Ditto even more so for you given this is your first post of the game.
And this quoting/previewing system doesn't seem to work very intuitively either.
If I'm doing it right, this is the best post so far.
++Dagaen. Scum usually not so eager to end RVS.
See, RVS never has been a "random" voting stage, first of all because humans are really bad at being random and second because people append silly reasons to their votes when they make them.
Unvote
Vote: Dagaen
Now I'm serious.
I hope you don't expect people to join your wagons when you don't even share a single reason for your reads.
"somewhere between random and serious" is a non-answer.
Why are you abandoning your karn vote/read? Was it not serious?
• Dagaen didn't post since you hopped to Karn; why'd you hop back?
• Why is Axel scum?
Are you required to have a random voting stage here? I don't mind random votes. Honestly I think they have a place even outside of the first couple days.
But usually my random votes are at least funny >_>
Buuuut I am a little hesitant to do that with Meg hosting this game after how much I scoffed that we would have been destroyed by a mass as scum in our last game. Doubt he would create a game so easily exploitable after I just called someone out on it.
Masses day 1 can still work in normal games, but not when hosts plan around them. Not sure I want to take that risk on my second game ever on this site
Dagaen absolutely most certainly did post: 37.
Axel is scum Dagaen is scum and Axel's pulling a classing look-how-towny-my-scum-partner-is line.
No it was not serious.
I'm voting Dagaen because he looks nervous.
You're voting for Dagaen because he looks nervous to you, which is not nearly enough to call someone outright scum imo, yet you claim he's definite scum and even base your read on Axelrod off of it entirely?
And why are you still tip-toeing around the questions about your previous votes' seriousness? Why did you vote Karn since it apparently wasn't serious? Why didn't you say anything in your vote posts if they weren't serious anyway? Why should we just take your word for it that you were not serious when you waited to see our reactions to your votes before explaining them?
Why would we assume that when 2 of them are RVS? Do you already have a read on AI?
unvote my RVS vote
Oops. I could have sworn that your vote-unvote-vote occurred before that. Sorry.
Rhetorical: How many layers of WIFOM are you applying to Axel's actions? I thought that towning your scum partner was generally viewed as a bad choice, especially early game. I don't see how you can determine Axel's alignment so definitively, especially when we don't know Dagaen's alignment.
If your original Dagaen vote was between random and serious, why would you change to a non-serious vote?
I disagree; are you talking about 37 and/or his other posts? What do you see as nervous?
So you were random voting specifically to be on record as participating during RVS?
Why would you think this?
EWP: I tend to see early/RVS/fast wagons as likely having scum on them, but only when they reach a certain threshold (such as L-3 or L-2). So a 4-person wagon in a 12-player game might be concerning, but 3 votes with 16 players/9-to-lynch/L-6? I would be very surprised if any knowledge could be gleaned from it.
Just thinking about responding to you is giving me a massive headache. Why do you care about my votes if I'm telling you they weren't serious?
Why did you feel the need to explain you were unvoting your RVS vote?
Dagaen saw two votes land on him then he "got serious" in post 37 and decided to go after AI. Looked nervous.
Because you could be lying and actually wanted to push Karn until you decided the Dagaen wagon would be better when no one jumped on Karn with you. Or you could be telling the truth, but we have no decent way to judge that because you left your votes naked. Can you see how naked votes are anti-town? Can you see why continuing not to explain your votes except in the most vague way is anti-town? It looks like you're hiding something from us.
To help people keep track of what's going on without having to look back.
And I'm pretty sure Axel is much more experienced than karn was in porn stars.