Yes, I am incredibly frustrated by AE who has done absolutely nothing this entire game besides mumble about wanting peoples guilds, mostly because I think he is town.
Karn as I mentioned before would be the worst town player in the history of mafia if he is town but luckily he isn't so I put the blame on you guys for not seeing that.
And we are left with a bunch of tiddlywinks players who thinks it is ok to post once every week with a post that says they are going to post more in the future.
At least cantrip who I think is scum as well has a good reason for not posting. Hell, Karn just signed up for another game and dammit I don't care if we aren't supposed to use outside info because I don't see how the hell anyone with half a brain can look at what Karn has done this game and think it is remotely acceptable.
The saddest thing is, you guys can't all be scum. Someone in this game who is posting at the rate of two posts a week is town because at least 5 of you are doing that.
Someone who is called the worst player to ever play mafia and is perfectly cool with that, which is what Karn was he last time I called him out on it. Know why? Because he is scum and thus it doesn't apply to him and instead my replacement title of slightly sloppy scum game takes effect.
Someone who is called the worst player to ever play mafia and is perfectly cool with that, which is what Karn was he last time I called him out on it. Know why? Because he is scum and thus it doesn't apply to him and instead my replacement title of slightly sloppy scum game takes effect.
I don't give a ***** about your opinion because you're scum and I think you're bad.
Phone posting + away from home = not a lot of time to pay attention to this game. You hasn't made a strong impression on me. Would you mind answering again, or at least reference the post? Reading back pages on the phone sucks, especially with limited time.
I'm not terribly convinced by that. Especially since you obviously read posts responding to me.
First, that's not how I play. I've been stuck between final projects, presentations, work, and exams for the past two weeks. Fortunately, that's clearing up on Tuesday, and needless to say, that's not the case permanently.
Second, that's also not an answer to what masterplum asked.
My problem's that at this point, I have four people that I am not averse to seeing lynched at this time. I have also not had the time to go back and look at them in any detail.
yeh I know
I don't know what my brain did there.
But I have seen this kind of lurkish play more from you, albeit more early game than later on.
Give some games that you found Cantrip "lurkish" please, and show why that means he is town instead of scum.
As well, the post JUST BEFORE the one I responded to.
You literally have to be paying no attention to the flow of conversation to make those statements, and I don't particularly like what that says about you.
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I'm not particularly fond of how KoolKoal responds to AI versus how he responds to SNL.
Cyouni, I think your reading comprehension is damaged. I wanted to know why RHAND was dismissing your lurkishness.
Re: your four people, I forgot you mentioned it, because you listed four people but hadn't really interacted with any of them. I remember conversations/interactions a lot better than lists.
By the way I feel significantly worse about TK with that vote.
Especially the timing. So you hate my push on Karn, but you vote me for it 3 days after I have conceded that it isn't going to happen? Let's just hop on the not me being lynched wagon everybody.
Do you hate this post because it's three days after your post? Besides, that last sentence is a clear misrep of my stance. I have always said that I'm fine with my lynch, but that I won't vote for myself. So when I realized I was voting for someone who's been cleared by actions, I went with the person I found most suspicious. If I was fine with "not me lynch", I could just keep voting AE. Also, I'll note that you conceded the lynch on Karn wasn't going to happen, but not that your opinion on him changed. So you're still suspicious of him, just you've given up on actually pushing him. You still want to lynch someone who's near confirmed town. And that's my issue.
Sorry Meg, I probably should have gone on V/LA, but I seriously thought I'd have time while my family was in town. Guess not!
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*I'm taking notes of the time passed between dk's posts because I feel like he's been lurking. All time frames are based purely on the date, I didn't keep track of the exact times because of a pbpa is enough work already and I believe being ~12 hours off in either direction will still give a good image of activity.
Dkingsland replaced in for Cythare who had done nothing.
Exactly that, guild. I like a certain one over others.
I don't see how this makes any sense. Why bother having people claim guilds, even if some may be more likely flavor-wise to be good/bad guys, when you could end up with a claim of "Centaur Healer, town Doc... Rakdos clan." (FTR, that is not a claim)
No one seems to want to listen about RobRoy, so I'll vote SelesnyaNewLife. His list of reads was as bad as RobRoy's, and also from my early read notes, I didn't like post #51. Why would we assume one of three players is scum, especially that early in the game? Perhaps he knows one of them is scum.In the second paragraph here, he laments no one following him onto robroy and then joins SNL's wagon with two barned reasons, but acts like they're original thoughts.
I agree that Axelrod has spilled a little too much info into the thread, but his reactions to this whole situation read town to me. I'm going to have to realign how I look at him.
Also, has anyone here played with AI before? Does he normally post in short quips like he has here?
@Axel - Is it possible YOU have a role along with your guild, and that SNL could be vanilla + a guild ability? I'm pretty sure I get what role you are hinting at, but if that's true and your PM doesn't say vanilla anywhere in it, shouldn't you be MORE certain of SNL lying instead of less certain?
Why are you fishing?
The thing I want to make a note of here is that dk, who claimed to be upset no listened to him about robroy, ignored the fact that robroy posted since his last post. Specifically 433.
He posts the next day: Nothing really of note. He says he's happy to follow Axelrod now because he's against robroy too.
I'm inclined to agree with this. I've seen Void rage before, specifically in Smalltown (and to a lesser extent in Walking Dead, based on CFTWR). Yes, he ragequit as town in Smalltown, but he was very vocal and combative and went out of his way to explain that it was in the best interests of the game for him to exit.
I'm also inclined to agree with AI. The SNL vanilla claim fiasco is too significant to let slide. I'm ready to vote him when we're ready for the day to end.
Nothing but /two barns, some original reasoning behind the first though.
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Day ends. His next post is 4 days after Day 2 begins: #708 Its long and there's little to pull from it, so I'm not quoting it. Here he /barn's karn and votes AI. This would be an interesting move for scum, and it feels off to me because he now wants to lynch AI over robroy with a single post as evidence. He continues to poke at AE, which is something everyone was doing, and he joins the dogpile on TK.
You'll note that this far into the game, dk has made one original case, and it was on the very safe robroy.
His next post from the same day, here he misreads TK and immediately says nvm, but look at one of the reasons he gives for why scarbo could have been killed:
Hardly odd. Of all the possibilities, the idea that a mafia team would act counter to their own nature because someone MIGHT be acting counter to their own nature is the least likely. People are simple creatures. While not stupid, they rarely get that advanced. In this situation, I'd expect to see something akin to "scarbo looks like an easy mislynch" SOMEWHERE in their night chat. It's predictable, and as someone pointed out earlier, humans are terrible at being random.
I don't like the assumption that the kill was random. Swishh could have been on to multiple scum. He also claimed his clan at some point. The kill could have been connected to that.
This from the guy who told AE claiming guilds would be meaningless. It doesn't add up.
Two days later he posts to shoot down some bizarre logic of TK's. 757
Next day, dk offers an unlikely counter-argument to TK being unlikely scum offered by Rhand. 795 & 797. He's really focused on TK for having a vote on AI. Its also strange that he's accepting Rhand's theory as worth discussion when robroy was a scumread for him.
TK's vote on Axelrod was bad, but this reeks of a counterwagon. The way AI danced around with Rhand, throwing suspicion in 780 and then turning right around and backing off in 791 is terrible and makes me want him dead as well.
He does a complete 180 on TK and is now commited to AI. I find it very strange that he goes after AI for how he interacts with Rhand. I'm beginning to think dk forgot Rhand was robroy or changed his read of Rhand shortly after he replaced in without mentioning it.
I did apparently forget to unvote. Anyway, this is no different than any other cop situation. Lynch one, if they turn up town, lynch the other. Anything else becomes trying to modgame.
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I'm 100% on board with this. Pretty much anyone else trying to steer attention away from AI is likely to be scum, except possibly Dagaen as his play makes sense if he is town who did indeed receive an item/ability from AI.
And on that note, TK is almost certainly town. This was a classic counterwagon situation. It will be fun looking at today's vote counts after we have AI's flip tomorrow.
DK seems awfully sure of what alignment AI will flip. He's pre-emptively attacking everyone who had trouble believing Karn as well, but scum would actually be much more likely sitting in his position, looking for safety from the flip results since they know where the danger is.
He posts again with much the same theme in 1044 on the same day.
I'm pretty sure there are multiple scum within LnGrrrR / KoolKoal / masterplum / Rhand. However, the latter two are pretty much an unaligned pair at this point.
/barn TK on not worrying about Karn being a potential neutral right now.
Also, AE, why did you open the day voting for the guy who was a clear counterwagon to scum!AI?
Suddenly dk is much less sure about LnGrrrR. Also, he takes no action despite having suspects. He mentions his suspects, and then moves on to a /barn and poking the safe player in AE again. No proactive actions to scum hunt.
2 days later, he posts to go v/la. 1215
2 days after his reported end of v/la he posts again.
I think AE is town, but I have no inkling what his plan could be and I'm not into lynching town to support it.
Karn, if you copped me, you are welcome to reveal my role.
Nothing over the past week of posts that I missed has changed my views of multiple scum between Rhand / masterplum / KoolKoal / LnGrrrR. The first two are an unaligned pair to me. Also, the fact that KK claimed Rakdos has him inching up my scumlist. Scarbo was Rakdos and conftown, and I'm town and Rakdos. I would be very surprised if the scum aren't spread out throughout the guilds.
I hated RobRoy's D1 play, and as such I will support this new wagon. Rhand's flip will tell us a lot about masterplum as well.
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Here's his jump onto the Rhand wagon, despite him having two stronger suspects, he joins the popular wagon. Then he shortly backtracks when he realizes exactly who he followed to the wagon.TL;DR: dk hasn't been scum hunting, he's been crowd following. He seemed too sure of AI's flip imo, and even worked to gain more scumspects out of AI's lynch. He's also been highly lurkish, though never to the point we noticed and called him on it at the time. However, lurking combined with no real scumhunting makes me pretty confident he's scum. There are a few odd interactions you should pay attention to in my pbpa though, so I hope everyone actually reads the whole thing rather than skipping to here.
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I'll bet you wish you had a non-unglued/unhinged card that shared your first name.
By the way I feel significantly worse about TK with that vote.
Especially the timing. So you hate my push on Karn, but you vote me for it 3 days after I have conceded that it isn't going to happen? Let's just hop on the not me being lynched wagon everybody.
Do you hate this post because it's three days after your post? Besides, that last sentence is a clear misrep of my stance. I have always said that I'm fine with my lynch, but that I won't vote for myself. So when I realized I was voting for someone who's been cleared by actions, I went with the person I found most suspicious. If I was fine with "not me lynch", I could just keep voting AE. Also, I'll note that you conceded the lynch on Karn wasn't going to happen, but not that your opinion on him changed. So you're still suspicious of him, just you've given up on actually pushing him. You still want to lynch someone who's near confirmed town. And that's my issue.
Sorry Meg, I probably should have gone on V/LA, but I seriously thought I'd have time while my family was in town. Guess not!
Cyouni, I think your reading comprehension is damaged. I wanted to know why RHAND was dismissing your lurkishness.
Re: your four people, I forgot you mentioned it, because you listed four people but hadn't really interacted with any of them. I remember conversations/interactions a lot better than lists.
You see how the post you're effectively responding to has the direct quote from me in there, responding to what you asked later?
For some reason, I find it hard to believe you didn't read that post.
I read your pbpa. I don't understand why you're saying he can't be scum with Lngr.
The big things you have on him aren't mentioned in your summary: his inconsistency in both his Robroy/Rhand read and his TK read and him being against the guild claim because he says guilds aren't useful while later on stating that Scarbo probably died because of his claimed guild.
I want to see his reaction to those things.
Your summary consists of things that aren't necessarily scumtells (lurking and sheeping), which is why I brushed off the case at first. There's also nothing in the summary for dkings to respond to.
Weekend was chaotic, sorry I haven't had a chance to catch up. Skimming, I see that we're going ahead with the guild claim. I'm Selesnya. I'll devote some time to this game this afternoon, tomorrow morning at the latest.
Nothing's been going on, and barring further revelations, KoolKoal and dkings are the only wagons I'd really accept today. Despite LnGrrr being scummier in general than them, I can't get past him suggesting what's (possibly) a real cop scan on his scumbuddy at a point where his scumbuddy would have been cleared of suspicion.
KoolKoal's pushed above dkings for his interactions with AI.
So, all I can do is basically confirm there are/were 4 Selesnya people in the game. I know there are 4 Rakdos claimers, which doesn't leave a whole lot of people to spread out among the other guilds. if all the Rakdos people are telling the truth. Then we would have at least one guild with only 2 people. I think that's certainly possible, though, and I do think it seems like a risky proposition for a scum to false "guild" claim. So using "too many Rakdos" claimers as a basis seems bad.
Now, pure probability might dictate that there is just a scum naturally in the Rakdos grouping (similarly to the Selesnya group, in point of fact), but that's kind of a different thing.
Still no free time. Sorry guys.
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KoolKoal's pushed above dkings for his interactions with AI.
Vote KoolKoal
Why do you have this idea in your head that Karn was more trustworthy than AI at that stage of the game? Karn hadn't contributed anything of value at all, while AI was putting on a good show.
And you didn't read my case of dk very carefully if you think my interactions with AI were worse than his. He didn't act like a townie who wanted to lynch AI, he acted like an opportunist who picked an early wagon to see what happened. He even pushed at the TK counterwagon while sitting on his AI vote, and only returned to talking about AI when AI showed weakness again.
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I'll bet you wish you had a non-unglued/unhinged card that shared your first name.
KoolKoal's pushed above dkings for his interactions with AI.
Vote KoolKoal
Why do you have this idea in your head that Karn was more trustworthy than AI at that stage of the game? Karn hadn't contributed anything of value at all, while AI was putting on a good show.
And you didn't read my case of dk very carefully if you think my interactions with AI were worse than his. He didn't act like a townie who wanted to lynch AI, he acted like an opportunist who picked an early wagon to see what happened. He even pushed at the TK counterwagon while sitting on his AI vote, and only returned to talking about AI when AI showed weakness again.
I'm sorry, I'm missing where what AI claimed somehow makes a cop result invalid. I'm also missing where apparently the correct answer to a cop reveal is to keep trying to get them to claim more, especially given how adamant you were about clamping down on information the previous day.
I do agree, dkings' interactions with AI weren't terribly good either. That's not stopping me from voting you.
Still catching up, but trying to keep up at the same time.
I am against lynching Kool. I've had him leaning town all game, and Karn's said "we're not lynching him". If we're trusting Karn, then we're not lynching Kool. If we're not trusting Karn, we're lynching Karn.
Still catching up, but trying to keep up at the same time.
I am against lynching Kool. I've had him leaning town all game, and Karn's said "we're not lynching him". If we're trusting Karn, then we're not lynching Kool. If we're not trusting Karn, we're lynching Karn.
I'm with Cantrip. We should be following our strongest town, and that's Karn. A KK lynch is a bad option.
Also, when's deadline? The 24th? I'm not sure, but we should really make a decision soon.
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- No, I have not been very active in this game. I haven't been able to get my head into it, partly because of unfamiliarity with a large amount of the player base and partly because of a few players in this game whose playstyles I dislike.
- I told AE on D1 that a guild claim wouldn't be helpful because AE likes to call for D1 claims to lock in elements for down the road. That doesn't do us any good when most people can claim a card identity that doesn't actually match their guild, making it easy for anyone to lie.
#708 Its long and there's little to pull from it, so I'm not quoting it. Here he /barn's karn and votes AI. This would be an interesting move for scum, and it feels off to me because he now wants to lynch AI over robroy with a single post as evidence.
This was discussed on D2. I know Karn's playstyle, and I know when he has a result on someone. I knew from his first post on D2 of TMNT that he had copped Rancid Raptor and told Proph as such in our mentor chat.
- Yes, I did forget that Rhand replaced in for RobRoy.
DK seems awfully sure of what alignment AI will flip. He's pre-emptively attacking everyone who had trouble believing Karn as well, but scum would actually be much more likely sitting in his position, looking for safety from the flip results since they know where the danger is.
DK: You knowing Karn had copped AI still doesn't explain why you were pushing TK rather than AI until the AI wagon caught steam, nor why you felt comfortable throwing accusations at everyone who was on the TK wagon when you had been pushing TK as well.
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I'll bet you wish you had a non-unglued/unhinged card that shared your first name.
Please inform me if there is an error with any vote count.
Prod check results:
Axelrod has until the end of today to post or he will be prodded.
Sir Karn should consider posting soon.
KoolKoal also deserves shame for not posting recently.
TK might work the Night shift, but he still has to post during the Day.
Cantripmancer, thanks for keeping us informed, but we need some content from you too.
AE would do well to post as well.
Cyouni would have received a prod if I had checked earlier. Please don't let me catch you with your pants down.
After quick read through KK's post I think I'll be fine with him as toDay's lynch. He was voting Scarbo, Masterplum, Karn, AE, TK, but never bothered to vote AI (except his RVS vote). While I had my (good) reason to defend AI, I don't really know what his motivation for this was.
My vote is based mostly on guts and feelings I had while reading through his posts, but this Day needs some kick in the butt, so I'm fine with this. Anyway Dking > KK and I'd like some pressure on Rakdos claimer.
Nothing's been going on, and barring further revelations, KoolKoal and dkings are the only wagons I'd really accept today. Despite LnGrrr being scummier in general than them, I can't get past him suggesting what's (possibly) a real cop scan on his scumbuddy at a point where his scumbuddy would have been cleared of suspicion.
KoolKoal's pushed above dkings for his interactions with AI.
Now that I have said that my power is pretty much worthless though. I could do some fun stuff while it was still hidden. Not 100% sure how it works and I assume mafia does have information about it, but if for some reason it's a third party that knows what I am talking about I won't reveal more today.
12 people left, scum probably started with 4 members. Usually it would be 4 or 5 but I have a sneaky suspicion that hosts here automatically make games town slanted to compensate for .... this.
so lets go 4. so we have 3 left in 12. I'm lynched we are at 3/10
no lynch leaves us at 3/11
3/11 is a lot better then 3/10
so the question then is am I eventually going to be lynched? If I am then it would be better for me to be lynched now then lynched later. I could ask for Karn to scan me but scum karn would lie, and mythical town karn probably would refuse to do it
If AE's town, and I suspect he is, no matter what Karn's alignment, then I'll take his word that he's got reason for offing his Golgari bretheren. Like I said with TK, I can't imagine scum being ok with a 1-1 trade at this point, and shifting from TK to Rhand makes it even more likely that AE is town.
That was the plan but it will screw scum over if they attempt things.
Ok, stop yelling
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Can we please lynch this guy.
Well then I'd expect you'd want all that info out in the thread for you.
I'll join you guys.
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They hate us cause they ain't us.
It depends on people knowing my guild
Can we list the dead people's guilds also for completion sake?
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Karn as I mentioned before would be the worst town player in the history of mafia if he is town but luckily he isn't so I put the blame on you guys for not seeing that.
And we are left with a bunch of tiddlywinks players who thinks it is ok to post once every week with a post that says they are going to post more in the future.
At least cantrip who I think is scum as well has a good reason for not posting. Hell, Karn just signed up for another game and dammit I don't care if we aren't supposed to use outside info because I don't see how the hell anyone with half a brain can look at what Karn has done this game and think it is remotely acceptable.
The saddest thing is, you guys can't all be scum. Someone in this game who is posting at the rate of two posts a week is town because at least 5 of you are doing that.
Someone who is called the worst player to ever play mafia and is perfectly cool with that, which is what Karn was he last time I called him out on it. Know why? Because he is scum and thus it doesn't apply to him and instead my replacement title of slightly sloppy scum game takes effect.
I don't give a ***** about your opinion because you're scum and I think you're bad.
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As well, the post JUST BEFORE the one I responded to.
You literally have to be paying no attention to the flow of conversation to make those statements, and I don't particularly like what that says about you.
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I'm not particularly fond of how KoolKoal responds to AI versus how he responds to SNL.
On another note:
That's based on memory.
Re: your four people, I forgot you mentioned it, because you listed four people but hadn't really interacted with any of them. I remember conversations/interactions a lot better than lists.
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Do you hate this post because it's three days after your post? Besides, that last sentence is a clear misrep of my stance. I have always said that I'm fine with my lynch, but that I won't vote for myself. So when I realized I was voting for someone who's been cleared by actions, I went with the person I found most suspicious. If I was fine with "not me lynch", I could just keep voting AE. Also, I'll note that you conceded the lynch on Karn wasn't going to happen, but not that your opinion on him changed. So you're still suspicious of him, just you've given up on actually pushing him. You still want to lynch someone who's near confirmed town. And that's my issue.
Sorry Meg, I probably should have gone on V/LA, but I seriously thought I'd have time while my family was in town. Guess not!
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They hate us cause they ain't us.
Dkingsland replaced in for Cythare who had done nothing.
I don't see how this makes any sense. Why bother having people claim guilds, even if some may be more likely flavor-wise to be good/bad guys, when you could end up with a claim of "Centaur Healer, town Doc... Rakdos clan." (FTR, that is not a claim)
No one seems to want to listen about RobRoy, so I'll vote SelesnyaNewLife. His list of reads was as bad as RobRoy's, and also from my early read notes, I didn't like post #51. Why would we assume one of three players is scum, especially that early in the game? Perhaps he knows one of them is scum.In the second paragraph here, he laments no one following him onto robroy and then joins SNL's wagon with two barned reasons, but acts like they're original thoughts.
His next post is 2 days later.
The thing I want to make a note of here is that dk, who claimed to be upset no listened to him about robroy, ignored the fact that robroy posted since his last post. Specifically 433.
He posts the next day: Nothing really of note. He says he's happy to follow Axelrod now because he's against robroy too.
Next post is 3 days later:
Nothing but /two barns, some original reasoning behind the first though.
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Day ends. His next post is 4 days after Day 2 begins: #708 Its long and there's little to pull from it, so I'm not quoting it. Here he /barn's karn and votes AI. This would be an interesting move for scum, and it feels off to me because he now wants to lynch AI over robroy with a single post as evidence. He continues to poke at AE, which is something everyone was doing, and he joins the dogpile on TK.
You'll note that this far into the game, dk has made one original case, and it was on the very safe robroy.
His next post from the same day, here he misreads TK and immediately says nvm, but look at one of the reasons he gives for why scarbo could have been killed: This from the guy who told AE claiming guilds would be meaningless. It doesn't add up.
Two days later he posts to shoot down some bizarre logic of TK's. 757
Next day, dk offers an unlikely counter-argument to TK being unlikely scum offered by Rhand. 795 & 797. He's really focused on TK for having a vote on AI. Its also strange that he's accepting Rhand's theory as worth discussion when robroy was a scumread for him.
Next day: He does a complete 180 on TK and is now commited to AI. I find it very strange that he goes after AI for how he interacts with Rhand. I'm beginning to think dk forgot Rhand was robroy or changed his read of Rhand shortly after he replaced in without mentioning it.
3 days later:
DK seems awfully sure of what alignment AI will flip. He's pre-emptively attacking everyone who had trouble believing Karn as well, but scum would actually be much more likely sitting in his position, looking for safety from the flip results since they know where the danger is.
He posts again with much the same theme in 1044 on the same day.
Also same day: If dk is scum, LnGrrrR is not.
Day ends. 1 day after next day starts:
Suddenly dk is much less sure about LnGrrrR. Also, he takes no action despite having suspects. He mentions his suspects, and then moves on to a /barn and poking the safe player in AE again. No proactive actions to scum hunt.
2 days later, he posts to go v/la. 1215
2 days after his reported end of v/la he posts again. Here's his jump onto the Rhand wagon, despite him having two stronger suspects, he joins the popular wagon. Then he shortly backtracks when he realizes exactly who he followed to the wagon.TL;DR: dk hasn't been scum hunting, he's been crowd following. He seemed too sure of AI's flip imo, and even worked to gain more scumspects out of AI's lynch. He's also been highly lurkish, though never to the point we noticed and called him on it at the time. However, lurking combined with no real scumhunting makes me pretty confident he's scum. There are a few odd interactions you should pay attention to in my pbpa though, so I hope everyone actually reads the whole thing rather than skipping to here.
Near confirmed?
For some reason, I find it hard to believe you didn't read that post.
The big things you have on him aren't mentioned in your summary: his inconsistency in both his Robroy/Rhand read and his TK read and him being against the guild claim because he says guilds aren't useful while later on stating that Scarbo probably died because of his claimed guild.
I want to see his reaction to those things.
Your summary consists of things that aren't necessarily scumtells (lurking and sheeping), which is why I brushed off the case at first. There's also nothing in the summary for dkings to respond to.
Why do you both want to see his reaction, but say there's nothing for him to respond to?
The case in the spoiler does have stuff, as I pointed out.
KoolKoal's pushed above dkings for his interactions with AI.
Vote KoolKoal
Now, pure probability might dictate that there is just a scum naturally in the Rakdos grouping (similarly to the Selesnya group, in point of fact), but that's kind of a different thing.
Still no free time. Sorry guys.
And you didn't read my case of dk very carefully if you think my interactions with AI were worse than his. He didn't act like a townie who wanted to lynch AI, he acted like an opportunist who picked an early wagon to see what happened. He even pushed at the TK counterwagon while sitting on his AI vote, and only returned to talking about AI when AI showed weakness again.
I'm sorry, I'm missing where what AI claimed somehow makes a cop result invalid. I'm also missing where apparently the correct answer to a cop reveal is to keep trying to get them to claim more, especially given how adamant you were about clamping down on information the previous day.
I do agree, dkings' interactions with AI weren't terribly good either. That's not stopping me from voting you.
I am against lynching Kool. I've had him leaning town all game, and Karn's said "we're not lynching him". If we're trusting Karn, then we're not lynching Kool. If we're not trusting Karn, we're lynching Karn.
I wish I watched TV so I knew what this is supposed to convey...
I'm with Cantrip. We should be following our strongest town, and that's Karn. A KK lynch is a bad option.
Also, when's deadline? The 24th? I'm not sure, but we should really make a decision soon.
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- No, I have not been very active in this game. I haven't been able to get my head into it, partly because of unfamiliarity with a large amount of the player base and partly because of a few players in this game whose playstyles I dislike.
- I told AE on D1 that a guild claim wouldn't be helpful because AE likes to call for D1 claims to lock in elements for down the road. That doesn't do us any good when most people can claim a card identity that doesn't actually match their guild, making it easy for anyone to lie.
This was discussed on D2. I know Karn's playstyle, and I know when he has a result on someone. I knew from his first post on D2 of TMNT that he had copped Rancid Raptor and told Proph as such in our mentor chat.
- Yes, I did forget that Rhand replaced in for RobRoy.
See above.
Let me help out.
Masterplum (4) Rhand, Karn, TK, AE
Koolkoal (3) Dagaen, plum, Cyouni
Rhand (1) LnGrrrr
TK-421 (1) Cantripmancer
Doesn't look like a lynch is going to happen today.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
*drums fingers*
This is one of the reasons I prefer plurality lynches.
All right, let me do some math. I'm trying to figure out if me being lynched or no lynch would be more beneficial here
They hate us cause they ain't us.
12 people left, scum probably started with 4 members. Usually it would be 4 or 5 but I have a sneaky suspicion that hosts here automatically make games town slanted to compensate for .... this.
so lets go 4. so we have 3 left in 12. I'm lynched we are at 3/10
no lynch leaves us at 3/11
3/11 is a lot better then 3/10
so the question then is am I eventually going to be lynched? If I am then it would be better for me to be lynched now then lynched later. I could ask for Karn to scan me but scum karn would lie, and mythical town karn probably would refuse to do it
cus.
I don't know, what do you think AI
They hate us cause they ain't us.
For the record right now I am going
Dag, TK, AE - Town
Karn, Rhand, cantrip - not town
Cyouni - either big power or scum
more confident about the town list then the scum list like always though
unvote vote Rhand
Town lets run with this before the day ends. Forget about what scum have to say. We don't even have to wait for Rhand to claim. It's irrelevant.
They hate us cause they ain't us.
I am on board
Unvote
Vote:Rhand
They hate us cause they ain't us.
Unvote TK, Vote Rhand.
Rhand (4): LnGrrrR, Archmage Eternal, masterplum, Cantripmancer
masterplum (3): Rhand, Sir Karn, TK-421
dkingsland967 (1): KoolKoal
KoolKoal (2): Dagaen, Cyouni
With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch!
Please inform me if there is an error with any vote count.
Deadline is in 8.5 hours!