2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Shockwave07 (2): Megiddo, Rhand
Rhand (3): Shockwave07, Wheat_Grinder (only two people voting)
Void (4): ITF (no way he has 4 votes)
SelesnyaNewLife (2): Void, Sir Karn, SelesnyaNewLife (when did SNL vote self? and where is Rodemy's vote?)
Wheat_Grinder (1): 7hawk77
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Actually... this votecount is all sorts of ****ed up... D:
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2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Unvote Void, I don't think a scum double voter is completely out of the question in a basic, but it's really really unlikely and it would have to have some sort of restriction to prevent the scum from winning the game early.
@Void: I didn't buy that you were baiting at all, because normally making an intentionally scummy post to get reactions is just bad. With you confirming your double vote right afterwards (and therefore confirming that you're almost definitely town), it makes more sense.
@Hans: I don't think a mass nameclaim will help, the flavor is kinda loose. We're not even sure who the scum are.
On Rhand: Wasn't convinced by Karn/Shockwave's points, and Rhand's posts 117 and on felt town.
THINGS I AM 100% CERTAIN OF:
I am a Vanilla Townie
It's time.
Eh, I don't think that's anything. "Vanilla Townie" is a very common way of saying it. Little weird that he claimed without anybody asking him for it though.
SNL obviously isn't used to playing mafia seriously (he's not faking that). My gut's saying he's just new, not new scum. Judging by how this game didn't have a very long confirmation phase, I'm guessing the scum have daytalk, and I would kinda expected him to have been coached harder if he were scum. His play doesn't really look like he was coached.
@SNL I'm glad you made a post with some actual content, but why'd you claim?
SNL's big post is bad. He doesn't actually say anything beyond fencesitting on the majority of people, and coming up with a wild theory about me and Rhand off of the fact that I'm scumhunting and looking townie, and Rhand had a townie response to it.
Also, ITF showed us that she is scum with SNL which is nice to know.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Wheat is town for that silly attack on me. Scum wouldn't try that after my wagon resolved.
Game is in poe mode as far as i am concerned. Shock, Itf, cantrip, Hans, Hawk are the options.
Vig should hit one of the first two if we have one.
Cop one of the last three.
Tracker anyone of those 5.
Watcher anyone not on the list.
Doc Void (don't wifom it, we need Void)
Wheat is town for that silly attack on me. Scum wouldn't try that after my wagon resolved.
Game is in poe mode as far as i am concerned. Shock, Itf, cantrip, Hans, Hawk are the options.
Vig should hit one of the first two if we have one.
Cop one of the last three.
Tracker anyone of those 5.
Watcher anyone not on the list.
Doc Void (don't wifom it, we need Void)
Ready to end the day whenever.
I disagree about Wheat.
Also, Hawk should not be on your poe list for scum.
SNL's big post is bad. He doesn't actually say anything beyond fencesitting on the majority of people, and coming up with a wild theory about me and Rhand off of the fact that I'm scumhunting and looking townie, and Rhand had a townie response to it.
Also, ITF showed us that she is scum with SNL which is nice to know.
Scumhunting? By grabbing hold of Rhand's back until page six for flimsy reasons, only to switch over to ITF for just-as-flimsy reasons? Your early Rhand posts have no significant weight to them whatsoever.
You're either all in on this together, or you're the only scum in the bunch.
You're the one that said I was scumhunting and an eager townie: "I suspect that this was some sort of early game Karn/Rhand scum plot to define Karn as an eager, scum-hunting townie, and Rhand as a townie justifiably defending himself."
Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Why is it not just plainly what it looks like?
PBPA'ing Karn as requested, assuming I can get it done in the next...52 minutes (yay I remembered despite my tiredness). If I don't finish I'll post what I have and finish later.
Also gonna look at Selesnya if I have time because something pinged me but I'm not certain.
PBPA'ing Karn as requested, assuming I can get it done in the next...52 minutes (yay I remembered despite my tiredness). If I don't finish I'll post what I have and finish later.
Also gonna look at Selesnya if I have time because something pinged me but I'm not certain.
You might be right about Wheat Karn, he can't even remember who he's attacking
Bad case is bad. I am not going to bother responding. Calling me scum after 3 posts of which one is the rvs breaker is just silly. Low participation... I sleep at night, you know?
So what do we know:
* Void is town
* Selesnya is the lowest hanging fruit in the game
* there should be scum on my wagon, on the Void wagon and maybe in the Selesnya pushes unless Selesnya is scum.
Analysing those things when I am on a pc.
Refuses to respond to the case, bad or not.
I don't hold it against him because I sorta did the same thing because Karn sucks at casing.
I do hold it against him if I find out he's not dismissive usually, which I believe Karn IS right about.
Somebody want to check if town!Rhand is dismissive? If not I'll look into it tonight. Remember to check against his scum games if you do.
119 Rhand says that he totally is but we'll see about that. Nothing else of note.
Do me a favor and look at the cases I make as town.
You are too focused on my last scum game and ignore that I try to mimic my town game when I'm scum.
My last completed town game is Walking Dead.
Now let's consider the possibility that my theory is wrong and there isn't a Karn/Rhand scum plot: You still seem scummy by wanting to portray yourself as a scumhunter so early in the game. You clung to a single player who made joking posts for multiple pages, then switched your vote from him to a player who had barely posted.
And you rolled dice and voted people for no reason and didn't have a single useful conversation or point, while I was trying to make things happen.
Now that we're well into the game and I've done my fair share of agitating, time to stop the silliness and get serious.
THINGS I AM 100% CERTAIN OF:
I am a Vanilla Townie
Void is a Doublevote Townie
THAT LEAVES:
Sir Karn
hansanator
Rodemy
Shockwave07
Rhand
Megiddo
Cantripmancer
Wheat_Grinder
ITF
7hawk77
ANALYSIS:
Sir Karn
Early in the game, he threw his vote down on Rhand without giving too strong of a reason, and wouldn't budge. Rhand didn't respond to this for a while, but once he defended himself, Karn switched his vote to ITF, who's barely posted at all. I suspect that this was some sort of early game Karn/Rhand scum plot to define Karn as an eager, scum-hunting townie, and Rhand as a townie justifiably defending himself.
If I missed anything, PLEASE CORRECT ME. It's late and I might have missed an important post.
So calls him eager, scum-hunting townie while fence sitting on tons of other people and then posts.
This, apparently, isn't a typo. Void has some sort of ability where his vote counts as two. I assume this is a special townie ability?
Unvote
/vote Rhand, because that's the bandwagon everyone seems to be jumping on.
He has followed multiple people just asking him to vote someone. Not to mention derped with a random vote roll and bandwagoned, So after I was done vetting rhand, I wanted to see if I could get SNL to follow me to wheat because I think that both of them are scum. He wasn't interested.
[quote from="Void" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/outside-magic/mafia/543545-84-llamas-with-hats-mafia-day-1-craving-hands?comment=126"]SNL is looking worse by the moment.
What am I doing wrong? (besides probably everything)
Unvote
I'm holding back my vote. Everyone's poker face is too good.
Seems like he was fine going after void who off of the role I think is town currently and Rhand who I also think is town.
He then actually defends wheat and ITF without any actual proof one way or the other.
Shockwave07
Megiddo said his vote seemed scummy, but I don't see it. It seemed just as silly to me as Megiddo's "stop vibrating" vote against Wheat.
Rhand
Karn was hammering down on Rhand, then was convinced to change his vote to ITF after Rhand's argument. He's probably town.
Void
Totally town with his double-vote ability, but three people are still voting to lynch him?
SelesnyaNewLife
Wow
So innocent
Much town
Wheat_Grinder
I don't get why he's suspicious.
ITF
Again, I don't get the suspicion.
I'm still abstaining my vote, because scum this round is putting on one hell of a poker face.
I'm not sure if he added ITF in to throw us off (doubt it) but it's possible.
If Seles or Wheat is scum, so is the other. If those two are both scum, ITF is worth lynching.
@Rhand
Early on I said I would give SNL a pass day 1 for a few different reasons.
1st, I'm notoriously bad at reading newer players because I just think that they are scum all the time.
2nd, This is a basic, people need to learn and everyone else in this game isn't a noobie.
3rd:
Snl can do more damage to scum alive then dead. Also he should follow wherever I vote, I want to be a double voter too
I was still trying to see if he would go to wheat but the first part still stands.
I thought that SNL if scum will do much more harm to the scum team than having him alive. I expected it would take more time to get damning information against the scum team but he really accelerated that so I'm actually alright with his lynch now. I got what I wanted out of him. His flip would give a lot of information.
@SNL: Explain why you voted Megs, then explain why you think Void is scum (in 50 words or less).
I have no clue why anyone might be anything.
Super shifty
screw it I refuse to quote any more.
59: Not on MTGS they aren't but this is a commonly held opinion on not-MTGS so ok.
He's sheeping but that doesn't indicate scum rather than noob.
77 vs. 82 showed a disconnect I thought, but I think he's consistent with his later posts as I continue looking.
142 shows disconnect with that thought; before he wanted to lynch whoever, now he abstains.
153 is...silly, but I could see him make the same post as both alignments; he's in the uninformed majority either way.
159: Does he really find this leisurely, or is he faking? This is the question I will continue to ask myself.
Diceroll vote is awful but I think it fits his mindset.
187 is large disconnect.
202: but his void vote was supposedly also serious.
Conclusions: Ultimately I think his mindset makes sense from town, and it's fairly consistent. 187 is the big outlier where he decides to actually try to find scum, and I'm not sure what to make of it yet.
I do not feel comfortable voting SNL from this. I will keep my eye on him, however.
Now let's consider the possibility that my theory is wrong and there isn't a Karn/Rhand scum plot: You still seem scummy by wanting to portray yourself as a scumhunter so early in the game. You clung to a single player who made joking posts for multiple pages, then switched your vote from him to a player who had barely posted.
And you rolled dice and voted people for no reason and didn't have a single useful conversation or point, while I was trying to make things happen.
Which looks worse?
The one that looks planned. (Psst, that's you.)
@Wheat: The fun I had being erratic has run dry, so now I'm playing to help. I hoped my theory post would prove that I can play this game as seriously as the rest of you.
@7hawk77: My vote is not changing from Karn. I'm absolutely convinced he's scum.
Karn is my highest town read, excepting Void. He seems very rational to me, and I think that he has asked some solid questions.
I think that Rhand is town. His logic in post #123 appears to be pretty strong and thorough.
I really dislike how Wheat started the game using Meggido's pr. His recent PBPA's merit him a light town read, though.
Rodemy's posting style seems off to me. I'm used to seeing him post really frequently and in rapid succession. I've got a weak scum read on him.
I think that SNL keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself. His erratic vote swapping throughout most of the day looks really scummy and the fact that, at one point well into the game, claimed that all of his previous votes were not serious make it worse (Compared to Rodemy's frequent vote switches in BSG, where he genuinely believed basically everyone to be scum at one point or another.)He is my biggest scum read and I don't mind voting after I see a vote count.
ITF's posts have seemed really sensible and I think that a few of them had great points; however, I know from past experience that ITF does not make mistakes, but every time he addresses SNL, I get the feeling that he is vaguely trying to coach him while still leaving open the opportunity for a bus. For right now, my read is swayed toward neither alignment, but I think that it is likely for ITF to be scum if SNL flips scum.
One post, in particular, of Shockwave's felt really forced to me: In #86 the "Can't believe a lot of us missed it" does not resonate well with me, nor does the dual emoticon usage. Slight scum read.
I don't really have much of an opinion on all of the people who I did not mention, though I must ask:
@Meggido - I get that you created a self-imposed posting restriction for yourself in the signup thread, but why exactly did you do this? For fun, for the challenge, to troll others, etc... ?
As someone who has never experienced Llamas With Hats beyond the picture provided in the signup thread (no, haven't even had the time to check the youtube link), a mass nameclaim would provide me with absolutely bupkus. Why do you think that Iso would allow his game to be gamed by a mass nameclaim?
I won't continue to push it any longer, but I really don't think that we have got anything to lose from trying it. To sum up the videos very briefly (although I recommend watching them because they are quite humorous, imo) a llama, named Carl, discusses with his friend the brutal ways in which he kills his victims in each episode.
Based on that information alone, I don't see any realm that exists in which Carl would not be mafia. So that player either claims Carl and is scum or cannot produce a false claim and is scum. I don't see any downside.
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"I'm a compulsive liar no matter what team I play on, but I'm trying to get better about it."
You seriously think that claiming names will give away who to target? Seriously?!
I mean what would people get from a name like "A Giant Vat"?!
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Oh hell. Dropped my character name. Might as well full claim.
I am, A Giant Vat, town psychosis inducing beverage giver!
My ability is that I may give the mod a drink any time I want to. At thresholds unknown to me effects of my drinks, such as the Votecount errors begin to creep in. Eventually the mod won't even be able to post stuff straight as any post he does must be done in "drunk speech".
Also, I have a secret win-con (he lied in the opening...), which is to give him enough drinks to think the Grapist is real and to run away in terror! Fear me Iso! Fear me!!!
Want to post a reminder tomorrow? I won't have time tonight and I'm so tired that I do not trust my ability to remember.
Why would scum ever want to be the focus?
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Shockwave07 (1): Rhand
Rhand (2): Shockwave07, Wheat_Grinder
Void (1): ITF
SelesnyaNewLife (5): Void, Sir Karn, Rodemy, Megiddo
Wheat_Grinder (1): 7hawk77
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Actually... this votecount is all sorts of ****ed up... D:
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Void has four with one?!
Did the whole vote system get drunk or something? *Checks last Votecount*
I think we can see what happened.
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
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It's time.
Maybe I am a little rusty :/.
Unvote Void, I don't think a scum double voter is completely out of the question in a basic, but it's really really unlikely and it would have to have some sort of restriction to prevent the scum from winning the game early.
@Void: I didn't buy that you were baiting at all, because normally making an intentionally scummy post to get reactions is just bad. With you confirming your double vote right afterwards (and therefore confirming that you're almost definitely town), it makes more sense.
@Hans: I don't think a mass nameclaim will help, the flavor is kinda loose. We're not even sure who the scum are.
On Rhand: Wasn't convinced by Karn/Shockwave's points, and Rhand's posts 117 and on felt town.
Eh, I don't think that's anything. "Vanilla Townie" is a very common way of saying it. Little weird that he claimed without anybody asking him for it though.
SNL obviously isn't used to playing mafia seriously (he's not faking that). My gut's saying he's just new, not new scum. Judging by how this game didn't have a very long confirmation phase, I'm guessing the scum have daytalk, and I would kinda expected him to have been coached harder if he were scum. His play doesn't really look like he was coached.
@SNL I'm glad you made a post with some actual content, but why'd you claim?
But:
Also, ITF showed us that she is scum with SNL which is nice to know.
Llamas With Hats Mafia, starring The Legend of Lucian's votecounts (as well as a third of its playerbase).
Double fixed.
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Game is in poe mode as far as i am concerned. Shock, Itf, cantrip, Hans, Hawk are the options.
Vig should hit one of the first two if we have one.
Cop one of the last three.
Tracker anyone of those 5.
Watcher anyone not on the list.
Doc Void (don't wifom it, we need Void)
Ready to end the day whenever.
I disagree about Wheat.
Also, Hawk should not be on your poe list for scum.
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You're the one that said I was scumhunting and an eager townie:
"I suspect that this was some sort of early game Karn/Rhand scum plot to define Karn as an eager, scum-hunting townie, and Rhand as a townie justifiably defending himself."
Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Why is it not just plainly what it looks like?
If selesnya flips town, ignore Hawk.
I am pretty sure about Wheat. His post makes total sense with what happened in hayate.
I don't look carefully at votecounts, see.
lol
PBPA'ing Karn as requested, assuming I can get it done in the next...52 minutes (yay I remembered despite my tiredness). If I don't finish I'll post what I have and finish later.
Also gonna look at Selesnya if I have time because something pinged me but I'm not certain.
You might be right about Wheat Karn, he can't even remember who he's attacking
I don't think Karn is scum. He sounds like the town Karn I remember from Iso's Arsonist except not quite so dickish so far so that's nice.
Anyway back to Rhand.
18 RVS. Nothing notably odd.
Shockwave's post wasn't terribly nervous. +scum
25: Fluff but necessary fluff, null.
Not sure how I feel about this so let's give it a null.
Nothing wrong here.
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Aside: I'm gonna have a devil of a time deciding whether or not SNL is scum or not.
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Refuses to respond to the case, bad or not.
I don't hold it against him because I sorta did the same thing because Karn sucks at casing.
I do hold it against him if I find out he's not dismissive usually, which I believe Karn IS right about.
Somebody want to check if town!Rhand is dismissive? If not I'll look into it tonight. Remember to check against his scum games if you do.
119 Rhand says that he totally is but we'll see about that. Nothing else of note.
I think tryharding about being funny is an exception to the rule.
Source: I'm a tryhard when it comes to humor, always.
123 I'm not quoting because it's long and I posted about it before, but it looks *exactly* like Hayate.
125 Nothing to note.
136 scumhunting, nothing of note.
138 fluff. And unnecessary fluff.
No reasoning given.
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I want to lynch SNL so hard but I'm not actually convinced he's not just bad town. Will definitely analyze him later.
dat random vote tho
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199 "Let's lynch Selesnya" he says, but earlier he said that SNL is low hanging fruit. Not sure what to make of that.
From then on, Rhand is going straight to POE which sounds exactly like the end of Hayate.
Conclusion: Rhand is scum.
am i a wozzerd
Do me a favor and look at the cases I make as town.
You are too focused on my last scum game and ignore that I try to mimic my town game when I'm scum.
My last completed town game is Walking Dead.
And you rolled dice and voted people for no reason and didn't have a single useful conversation or point, while I was trying to make things happen.
Which looks worse?
So calls him eager, scum-hunting townie while fence sitting on tons of other people and then posts.
That makes very little sense. Anyways, back to showing who the entire scum team is.
Spoiler, it involves wheat, selesnya and probably ITF.
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Observations of 81 (pages 1-16)
You are not quick to lynch.
You do not POE.
You scumhunt often. Like, almost every single post.
You defend yourself.
In 84:
You are quick to lynch.
You POE.
You do not scumhunt often.
You do not defend yourself.
He has followed multiple people just asking him to vote someone. Not to mention derped with a random vote roll and bandwagoned, So after I was done vetting rhand, I wanted to see if I could get SNL to follow me to wheat because I think that both of them are scum. He wasn't interested.
His reaction was the following:
Seems like he was fine going after void who off of the role I think is town currently and Rhand who I also think is town.
He then actually defends wheat and ITF without any actual proof one way or the other.
I'm not sure if he added ITF in to throw us off (doubt it) but it's possible.
If Seles or Wheat is scum, so is the other. If those two are both scum, ITF is worth lynching.
@Rhand
Early on I said I would give SNL a pass day 1 for a few different reasons.
1st, I'm notoriously bad at reading newer players because I just think that they are scum all the time.
2nd, This is a basic, people need to learn and everyone else in this game isn't a noobie.
3rd:
I was still trying to see if he would go to wheat but the first part still stands.
I thought that SNL if scum will do much more harm to the scum team than having him alive. I expected it would take more time to get damning information against the scum team but he really accelerated that so I'm actually alright with his lynch now. I got what I wanted out of him. His flip would give a lot of information.
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Wasn't serious, we later found out, so I'm not worried.
GODDAMMIT WILL CURSE FIX QUOTING ALREADY OH MY GOD NOTHING WORKSSSSSSSS
Noob town say that too, not sure at the breakdown of which alignment says it more.
Super shifty
screw it I refuse to quote any more.
59: Not on MTGS they aren't but this is a commonly held opinion on not-MTGS so ok.
He's sheeping but that doesn't indicate scum rather than noob.
77 vs. 82 showed a disconnect I thought, but I think he's consistent with his later posts as I continue looking.
142 shows disconnect with that thought; before he wanted to lynch whoever, now he abstains.
153 is...silly, but I could see him make the same post as both alignments; he's in the uninformed majority either way.
159: Does he really find this leisurely, or is he faking? This is the question I will continue to ask myself.
Diceroll vote is awful but I think it fits his mindset.
187 is large disconnect.
202: but his void vote was supposedly also serious.
Conclusions: Ultimately I think his mindset makes sense from town, and it's fairly consistent. 187 is the big outlier where he decides to actually try to find scum, and I'm not sure what to make of it yet.
I do not feel comfortable voting SNL from this. I will keep my eye on him, however.
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Take it how you will, but if I was SNL and I were scum together I would've been bussing a long time ago.
My eye wavers not.
Should read:
Take it how you will, but if SNL and I were scum together I would've been bussing a long time ago.
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Karn is my highest town read, excepting Void. He seems very rational to me, and I think that he has asked some solid questions.
I think that Rhand is town. His logic in post #123 appears to be pretty strong and thorough.
I really dislike how Wheat started the game using Meggido's pr. His recent PBPA's merit him a light town read, though.
Rodemy's posting style seems off to me. I'm used to seeing him post really frequently and in rapid succession. I've got a weak scum read on him.
I think that SNL keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself. His erratic vote swapping throughout most of the day looks really scummy and the fact that, at one point well into the game, claimed that all of his previous votes were not serious make it worse (Compared to Rodemy's frequent vote switches in BSG, where he genuinely believed basically everyone to be scum at one point or another.)He is my biggest scum read and I don't mind voting after I see a vote count.
ITF's posts have seemed really sensible and I think that a few of them had great points; however, I know from past experience that ITF does not make mistakes, but every time he addresses SNL, I get the feeling that he is vaguely trying to coach him while still leaving open the opportunity for a bus. For right now, my read is swayed toward neither alignment, but I think that it is likely for ITF to be scum if SNL flips scum.
One post, in particular, of Shockwave's felt really forced to me: In #86 the "Can't believe a lot of us missed it" does not resonate well with me, nor does the dual emoticon usage. Slight scum read.
I don't really have much of an opinion on all of the people who I did not mention, though I must ask:
@Meggido - I get that you created a self-imposed posting restriction for yourself in the signup thread, but why exactly did you do this? For fun, for the challenge, to troll others, etc... ?
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I won't continue to push it any longer, but I really don't think that we have got anything to lose from trying it. To sum up the videos very briefly (although I recommend watching them because they are quite humorous, imo) a llama, named Carl, discusses with his friend the brutal ways in which he kills his victims in each episode.
Based on that information alone, I don't see any realm that exists in which Carl would not be mafia. So that player either claims Carl and is scum or cannot produce a false claim and is scum. I don't see any downside.
Previous Mafia Experience:
Mafia aligned: 2/0 -100%
Town aligned: 4/3 - 57%
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I mean what would people get from a name like "A Giant Vat"?!
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Oh hell. Dropped my character name. Might as well full claim.
I am, A Giant Vat, town psychosis inducing beverage giver!
My ability is that I may give the mod a drink any time I want to. At thresholds unknown to me effects of my drinks, such as the Votecount errors begin to creep in. Eventually the mod won't even be able to post stuff straight as any post he does must be done in "drunk speech".
Also, I have a secret win-con (he lied in the opening...), which is to give him enough drinks to think the Grapist is real and to run away in terror! Fear me Iso! Fear me!!!
Fuublefuublefuuble!!!
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
Spider-Man Mafia 3 (Off-Site: NGA)
Metroid Mafia (Off-Site: Mafia Universe)
Only iso can come up with a role like that tho, so i guess he ain't lying.
Bastardy basics ftw lol.
That removes Shock from the poe pile. No scum on my first wagon then probably: i very much like hawk's reaction to the free pass thing.
.. So i have this thing called a job.
I work every day now. A lot. At odd hours.
Sorry i can't find the time to annoy you guys with my usual rapid posts.
That being said, SNL's breakdown of scum and notscum sucks. I had a discussion with Karn about this:
Calling yourself town doesn't make you town, and is scummy at best.
Lynch it please?
Also, Shockwave... What. The. ****.....
I am unsure right now about anyone else but SNL..
Karn seems scummy, but i am willing to hold off til toMorrow when SNL flips to divulge further.
@Cant Why was your vote on me serious? Last time you "baited" that i remember, you were bussing me in Apoco. As scum... soooo..
I'm watching you ._.