@Karn - What are some of your current reads outside of Tom?
Check the end of yesterday for my issues with ETR. In his initial catch up posts he said that Antny was diverting away from what could have amounted to pressure on UAL very early in the game. Then he said that my case on you was to divert away from the Antny wagon without saying anything about my case that he felt was unconvincing or scummy while later saying that he felt better about Antny. So his main reason for saying that he was willing to lynch me was because I was attempting to divert from Antny (along with saying I was wordy) but he felt better about Antny. So if he felt better about Antny, why would I have been trying to divert from him?
When I called him on it his response was really bad, saying that my Antny point amounted to mudslinging, which didn't make sense, and that I was OMGUSing him without voting for him - when it was clear that I wasn't voting for him because I was voting for you. Then he started asking me leading questions around my stance on UAL assuming that I was town reading him when I wasn't and asking me to defend posts of his.
With the exception of BE who I have a pretty strong Town read on, Today feels flipped with yesterday and my reads are getting muddied. I'll try to do a full read through tomorrow and make sense of it all.
BTW Rodemy is probably town, the sillyness/craziness is just his playstyle from what I know, and I see him trying to find scum this game. No problems with him at all.
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Rodemy, who's scum?
**** if I know...
B_E's constant push on tom and I feels town... but honestly his arguments are weak and I see him sticking by them even though they are.. bad... as scum trying to push a moot point.
Tom is getting fishy constantly pushing me as town, though I have seen this behavior before in (i think?) Porn star... and the person doing it was town.. so I can't say it's scummy. Although me saying that can be misinterpreted as scum getting pressure off of themselves from other scum... so me saying that won't really change anyones opinion on me scumspect-wise.
Shock needs to post.
Nacho wobbled a bit and I am not liking it.
actually..
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Vote Nacho
Needs more pressure.
@Nacho: care to explain why you are suddenly involved in the game? Yesterday you skimmed by with posting very little and your vote yesterday wasn't explained at all til toDay even after we asked you multiple times. Lurking= bad
EtR needs to post. Like, now. My read on him is lingering and I am getting pissed at myself for barning Tom when he hasn't posted anything yet. My townread on him is thinning.
I am liking DCIII. He feels involved and not really botching cases against people. His thoughts are in line with mine and it feels different than TMNT mafia where he was scum.
Scarbs: you are my biggest town read right now. Involved, good thoughts, and active scumhunting that I can see. But that can change over the corse of the game. I haven't played with you as Scum, i believe (please correct me if i am wrong...)
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There is probably scum in one of these two people.
Gut feeling more than anything else.
My money is on Zem from the vote in rvs and the weak defense of it after questioning.
but more Nacho pressure for now plz.
and before BE says anything, just because I THINK Zem is scum, doesn't mean I have to vote him. Can you see what I am doing with my vote on Nacho? i want him to be more active. Voting him, makes pressure to either post or replace.
THAT is what you seem to be missing in your "if you think they are scum why aren't you voting them" case against nacho and tom and me. THAT is why we think your argument is bad.
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Rodemy, I am posting now because I have time. Are you voting me because I stepped up my activity...?
As for votes made yesterday, I operated mostly on gut thanks to less time. Thus, my reasoning is not fleshed out for the vote(s) I did make: they were gut.
Tom is getting fishy constantly pushing me as town, though I have seen this behavior before in (i think?) Porn star... and the person doing it was town.. so I can't say it's scummy. Although me saying that can be misinterpreted as scum getting pressure off of themselves from other scum... so me saying that won't really change anyones opinion on me scumspect-wise.
This is funny, given that you have defended tom a lot, and now you're suspicious of tom for defending you?
Oh, no maybe you're not, he may be town.
Oh, and "Although me saying that can be misinterpreted as scum getting pressure off of themselves from other scum... so me saying that won't really change anyones opinion on me scumspect-wise." is so self-concious and scummy.
Post 188: “ this is a strange mindset. Calling people town and THEN trying to figure out who is scum. I might be wrong...” What what what? This was actually your argument? And then you said that you might be wrong implying that you weren’t confident in your argument.
Post 192: “swishh from what i have skimmed through SEEMS to be town…” Once again, not standing behind your reads.
Post 193: So what, you randomly change your vote because scarbo said so?
Post 199: “If you think UA is scum, why does it matter if he answers the questions?” Once again, what? You don’t want Zeman to scumhunt by asking questions?
Post 351 “However, i do think tom is being scummy for the aforementioned:
Post 1: person a is scummy. Vote person a.
Post 2: person a feels better now. Person b feels scummy and so does person c. Unvote vote person c
Post 3: person b and person c feel better now. Unvote. Someone tell me who to vote.” This is true . However you entirely abandoned your tom case and are now dismissing the case on him and defending him
Post 388 “DCIII has good points. I think I am going to follow him on this one.
Unvote
Vote Sir Karn” Here you barn DCIII and backflip
Post 555: “Like, you are rude. And very defensive. Super insulting..
Unvote
Vote UAL” Here you backflip again, right onto the most popular wagon. And look at all those reasons.
Post 655 “You are starting another wagon when most of us are pretty sure that UAL is scum. I admire your persistence tho. Seems quite towny actually. But your timing is way off. Trying to start a counter wagon this close to the end of day is odd. “ Attacking someone else is scummy and odd. No, it’s quite townie. No, it’s odd. You seem quite unable sometimes to post a definitive read.
Tom is getting fishy constantly pushing me as town, though I have seen this behavior before in (i think?) Porn star... and the person doing it was town.. so I can't say it's scummy. Although me saying that can be misinterpreted as scum getting pressure off of themselves from other scum... so me saying that won't really change anyones opinion on me scumspect-wise.
This is funny, given that you have defended tom a lot, and now you're suspicious of tom for defending you?
Oh, no maybe you're not, he may be town.
Oh, and "Although me saying that can be misinterpreted as scum getting pressure off of themselves from other scum... so me saying that won't really change anyones opinion on me scumspect-wise." is so self-concious and scummy.
K. So i should instantly think tom is town and not have any suspicion whatsoever at all of him because i defended him?
Rodemy, I am posting now because I have time. Are you voting me because I stepped up my activity...?
As for votes made yesterday, I operated mostly on gut thanks to less time. Thus, my reasoning is not fleshed out for the vote(s) I did make: they were gut.
I voted you to pressure you to up your activity. I am liking your reasons for not posting more because you are actually making an effort now. I also did it to prove a point to BE. [b]unvote[\b]
Okay, just read through the game and my perspective has changed a bit. I want to lynch Rodemy Today.
Zem's case at the end of Day 1 was legit. Rodemy is attempting to appear very active while also reacting heavily to people who suspect him. I'm also pretty sure that he's making up his reads.
#192 - Yesterday was the post where he took Zem off of his radar early for no reason and then used the same post to switch his stance on him. He seemed very nervous in his response to that.
BE captured a lot of the rest of his Day 1 in #812.
Today:
#704 - A bad reason to vote BE and also shows how over concerned he is with other's reads on him.
#760 - Has me believing in the "honestly" tell again as the post is littered with it, but is also a bad reason to vote for UAL and is also unconvincing considering the timing that he switched back from Karn to UAL - UAL had been grating a long time prior to that.
#762 - He starts speculating on the reason that Antny is dead which seems like a reach and seems like he had it ready.
#805 - Couching a lot of reads and giving himself outs. BE feels Town but could be scum trying to push a moot point. Tom is fishy pushing him as Town, though he's seen it before and it might not be a tell, Scarbo biggest Town read but that can change of the course of the game.... He's not really saying much of anything with those reads and is giving himself room to work in either direction. His read on me feels completely made up as we've only played TMNT together and I was Town.
Generally I agree with you and if he didn't say it I'd still be voting for him, but I do think in this case the amount of times it's come up along with the reasoning it's supporting and the rest of his phrasing seems very nervous/concerned when people are suspicious of him.
The below post/string of posts is very self-conscious:
@B_E: You have yet to tell me why i am scum. You say i had some scummy posts... but you have yet to present them.
@Scarbo: Same for you. Why am i scum?
You did the same thing as Tom, you agressively pushed the KArn wagon, then the UAL wagon got popular and suddenly he was scum and Karn was "not sure actually"
So? The case on him was good.
You wanna know the honest reason why i voted him?
He was unpleasant.. he was rude.. he was overall just.. bad.
I honestly didn't care if he was scum or town. I just wanted him gone.
Now, vote me if you want. But I say that knowing it sounds scummy as hell.
For future reference, please link the posts to make it easier to respond. To do it, right click the post number and go to copy link.. then when type the post number, highlight it and click the little link button next to the landscape picture button. Copy the link in there....
Post 188: “ this is a strange mindset. Calling people town and THEN trying to figure out who is scum. I might be wrong...” What what what? This was actually your argument? And then you said that you might be wrong implying that you weren’t confident in your argument.
I don't see anything scummy about that. I wasn't confident in my argument. Hince why i said "idk scumslip?" before you quoted. Did you leave that out on purpose?
Post 192: “swishh from what i have skimmed through SEEMS to be town…” Once again, not standing behind your reads.
Because i had gotten to the beginning of d1 at that point. Did you want me to be certain that early in the game? I said he seems town. Which means he reads towny. Idk what else you are expecting from me.
Post 193: So what, you randomly change your vote because scarbo said so?
Did you not read that Ant was one of my two scumspects from the previous post? Can i not change my vote to my other scumspect? You seem to have it set in your mind that town HAS to act a certain way.
Post 199: “If you think UA is scum, why does it matter if he answers the questions?” Once again, what? You don’t want Zeman to scumhunt by asking questions?
It's like you just took that post and didn't read the rest of the conversation between us.
Post 351 “However, i do think tom is being scummy for the aforementioned:
Post 1: person a is scummy. Vote person a.
Post 2: person a feels better now. Person b feels scummy and so does person c. Unvote vote person c
Post 3: person b and person c feel better now. Unvote. Someone tell me who to vote.” This is true . However you entirely abandoned your tom case and are now dismissing the case on him and defending him.
Defending him from YOUR *****ty case on him. He has improved in my eyes since then. I said he FEELS scummy.. i still say he feels scummy. What the **** is wrong with that? Is it because i am not voting him?
Post 388 “DCIII has good points. I think I am going to follow him on this one.
Unvote
Vote Sir Karn” Here you barn DCIII and backflip
.. Yes. Yes I do. Backflip? What?
Post 555: “Like, you are rude. And very defensive. Super insulting..
Unvote
Vote UAL” Here you backflip again, right onto the most popular wagon. And look at all those reasons.
Because i wanted him out of the game. And he was the scummiest player thusfar. Mostly i wanted him the **** outta here.
Post 655 “You are starting another wagon when most of us are pretty sure that UAL is scum. I admire your persistence tho. Seems quite towny actually. But your timing is way off. Trying to start a counter wagon this close to the end of day is odd. “ Attacking someone else is scummy and odd. No, it’s quite townie. No, it’s odd. You seem quite unable sometimes to post a definitive read.
So you don't think that a townie can be odd?
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@Karn - What are some of your current reads outside of Tom?
Burning_Earth the Allosaurus (rr SirGrizz the Triceratops) - Town
DCIII the Pterodactylus - Leanscum
EtR the Compsognathus (fr Scrub the Nedoceratops) - Leantown
Nachomamma8 the Velociraptor - Leantown
Rodemy the Tyrannosaurus - Leanscum
Shockwave07 the Spinosaurus (rr LoneWolfBlood the Spinosaurus) - Scum
Sir Karn the Carbonemys - Town
swishh the Sinornithosaurus - Town
Tom the Ankylosaurus - Scum
zemanjaski the Deinonychus - Town
Some thoughts:
Rodemy has made a ton of bad posts since my last t/s. I agree with a lot of the points against him. I think it's highly likely that if Tom flips scum, then Rodemy is also scum.
I don't think DCIII and Rodemy can be scum together.
Shockwave is still lurking scum. Is he in prod range?
Tom is still scum.
B_E is one of the towniest people in the game.
I feel slightly better about DCIII toDay but still not good, and I feel a lot worse about Rodemy.
Okay, just read through the game and my perspective has changed a bit. I want to lynch Rodemy Today.
Zem's case at the end of Day 1 was legit. Rodemy is attempting to appear very active while also reacting heavily to people who suspect him. I'm also pretty sure that he's making up his reads.
#192 - Yesterday was the post where he took Zem off of his radar early for no reason and then used the same post to switch his stance on him. He seemed very nervous in his response to that.
BE captured a lot of the rest of his Day 1 in #812.
Today:
#704 - A bad reason to vote BE and also shows how over concerned he is with other's reads on him.
#760 - Has me believing in the "honestly" tell again as the post is littered with it, but is also a bad reason to vote for UAL and is also unconvincing considering the timing that he switched back from Karn to UAL - UAL had been grating a long time prior to that.
#762 - He starts speculating on the reason that Antny is dead which seems like a reach and seems like he had it ready.
#805 - Couching a lot of reads and giving himself outs. BE feels Town but could be scum trying to push a moot point. Tom is fishy pushing him as Town, though he's seen it before and it might not be a tell, Scarbo biggest Town read but that can change of the course of the game.... He's not really saying much of anything with those reads and is giving himself room to work in either direction. His read on me feels completely made up as we've only played TMNT together and I was Town.
Unvote: Vote: Rodemy
have you considered i am throwing ideas out there? I have no ******* clue who is scum and who is town right now. My uncertainty should give you some clue to that.
I am not as experienced as you guys. A lot of people can go: OH he is town. OH he is scum. I can't do that yet.
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Will someone please make a ******* CASE against me?
Don't just say I am scum.....
It's rude and lazy.
Now can we please get back on track and look at Burning Earth?
Breadcrumb.. just so ya know.
Reverse engineered? Why point this out now if you aren't in claim range? Plus that phrase is common enough that it could be said and not be a breadcrumb attempt.
Also its about time for Seppel!Mod to step in and remind everyone who is up for a prod! (Look at Sesame Street Mafia if you wonder what I'm talking about.
Rodemy's posts are the actual worst. Is he normally this self conscious and forced as Town? He's been doing this from the START of the game too, which I guess adds plausibility to his demeanor being Town and not Scum trying to explain away his posts.
Someone who has played with him speak up please.
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Rodemy's posts are the actual worst. Is he normally this self conscious and forced as Town? He's been doing this from the START of the game too, which I guess adds plausibility to his demeanor being Town and not Scum trying to explain away his posts.
Someone who has played with him speak up please.
I get self conscience.. but forced? Where are you getting that from? Nothing I am saying is "forced"
I can tell you now.. this is such norm for me I'm different.. and i like it.
Also read my sig quote. That explains a lot as well.
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No i said that because people were starting to want to lynch me. It was a just in case thing. It was a lame one but i was hoping someone would catch it and understand that i was breadcrumbing tracker.. Which i have no clue how to do actually. so i figured "back on track" would work.
Especially since we weren't really going off track to begin with...
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Rodemy's posts are the actual worst. Is he normally this self conscious and forced as Town? He's been doing this from the START of the game too, which I guess adds plausibility to his demeanor being Town and not Scum trying to explain away his posts.
Someone who has played with him speak up please.
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I played with him once. He was erratic but he wasn't this nervous, but he was also vanilla. I doubt he'd throw that out there prior to claim range if he were scum. I believe him.
@Karn - What was your reasoning for your initial LeanTown read on Nacho and what have you thought specifically of his play Today?
I'm gonna do the most non scummy thing right now before a wagon starts on me and claim
I am the ******* Tracker. Get off my back and go somewhere else.
I am sorry i have appeared scummy and will try and do better.
I'll be dead tomorrow anyway
Tracked ETR last night. He didn't target anyone which is why i changed my stance on him toDay.
I didn't have the time I wanted today, but I will confirm that this is accurate. It doesn't clear either one of us, but I won't touch Rodemy without a counter claim.
Also, if there is a counter claim, don't claim now. It'll work itself out later.
@Karn - What are some of your current reads outside of Tom?
Burning_Earth the Allosaurus (rr SirGrizz the Triceratops) - Town
DCIII the Pterodactylus - Leanscum
EtR the Compsognathus (fr Scrub the Nedoceratops) - Leantown
Nachomamma8 the Velociraptor - Leantown
Rodemy the Tyrannosaurus - Leanscum
Shockwave07 the Spinosaurus (rr LoneWolfBlood the Spinosaurus) - Scum
Sir Karn the Carbonemys - Town
swishh the Sinornithosaurus - Town
Tom the Ankylosaurus - Scum
zemanjaski the Deinonychus - Town
Some thoughts:
Rodemy has made a ton of bad posts since my last t/s. I agree with a lot of the points against him. I think it's highly likely that if Tom flips scum, then Rodemy is also scum.
I don't think DCIII and Rodemy can be scum together.
Shockwave is still lurking scum. Is he in prod range?
Tom is still scum.
B_E is one of the towniest people in the game.
I feel slightly better about DCIII toDay but still not good, and I feel a lot worse about Rodemy.
Most likely scumteam is: Shockwave, Tom, Rodemy.
Most townie people are: Karn, Scarbo, B_E, Zeman.
Red 1: So.. if tom flips town... then what?
Red 2: Oh wait.. he's scum.. so why did you say that first part?
You think he's scum.. yet are still unsure about his flip..
With that mindset you should have said: WHEN he flips scum, rodemy is scum too.
your words aren't consistent with your mindset.
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Trying to reread this game makes me want to stab myself I the eyes.
Why are you rereading? You were so sure that Tom and Shock were scum.. how did my claim change that?
Your claim didn't change my reads on Tom and Shock. What makes you think that?
I was looking back at the game to make some content and see if there was anything I may have missed. As well as to answer the question I was asked of what gave me my initial leantown read on Nacho.
You think he's scum.. yet are still unsure about his flip..
Exactly. I think he's scum but I'm not 100% certain of his flip.
@Karn - What are some of your current reads outside of Tom?
Check the end of yesterday for my issues with ETR. In his initial catch up posts he said that Antny was diverting away from what could have amounted to pressure on UAL very early in the game. Then he said that my case on you was to divert away from the Antny wagon without saying anything about my case that he felt was unconvincing or scummy while later saying that he felt better about Antny. So his main reason for saying that he was willing to lynch me was because I was attempting to divert from Antny (along with saying I was wordy) but he felt better about Antny. So if he felt better about Antny, why would I have been trying to divert from him?
When I called him on it his response was really bad, saying that my Antny point amounted to mudslinging, which didn't make sense, and that I was OMGUSing him without voting for him - when it was clear that I wasn't voting for him because I was voting for you. Then he started asking me leading questions around my stance on UAL assuming that I was town reading him when I wasn't and asking me to defend posts of his.
I am interested in seeing his thoughts on Zem.
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**** if I know...
B_E's constant push on tom and I feels town... but honestly his arguments are weak and I see him sticking by them even though they are.. bad... as scum trying to push a moot point.
Tom is getting fishy constantly pushing me as town, though I have seen this behavior before in (i think?) Porn star... and the person doing it was town.. so I can't say it's scummy. Although me saying that can be misinterpreted as scum getting pressure off of themselves from other scum... so me saying that won't really change anyones opinion on me scumspect-wise.
Shock needs to post.
Nacho wobbled a bit and I am not liking it.
actually..
Unvote
Vote Nacho
Needs more pressure.
@Nacho: care to explain why you are suddenly involved in the game? Yesterday you skimmed by with posting very little and your vote yesterday wasn't explained at all til toDay even after we asked you multiple times. Lurking= bad
EtR needs to post. Like, now. My read on him is lingering and I am getting pissed at myself for barning Tom when he hasn't posted anything yet. My townread on him is thinning.
I am liking DCIII. He feels involved and not really botching cases against people. His thoughts are in line with mine and it feels different than TMNT mafia where he was scum.
Scarbs: you are my biggest town read right now. Involved, good thoughts, and active scumhunting that I can see. But that can change over the corse of the game. I haven't played with you as Scum, i believe (please correct me if i am wrong...)
There is probably scum in one of these two people.
Gut feeling more than anything else.
My money is on Zem from the vote in rvs and the weak defense of it after questioning.
but more Nacho pressure for now plz.
and before BE says anything, just because I THINK Zem is scum, doesn't mean I have to vote him. Can you see what I am doing with my vote on Nacho? i want him to be more active. Voting him, makes pressure to either post or replace.
THAT is what you seem to be missing in your "if you think they are scum why aren't you voting them" case against nacho and tom and me. THAT is why we think your argument is bad.
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I'm starting to remember why I thought you were a good vote earlier.
Are Rodemy and I equal scumreads for you? What are your cases on either?
As for votes made yesterday, I operated mostly on gut thanks to less time. Thus, my reasoning is not fleshed out for the vote(s) I did make: they were gut.
This is funny, given that you have defended tom a lot, and now you're suspicious of tom for defending you?
Oh, no maybe you're not, he may be town.
Oh, and "Although me saying that can be misinterpreted as scum getting pressure off of themselves from other scum... so me saying that won't really change anyones opinion on me scumspect-wise." is so self-concious and scummy.
Sorry Guys.
Post 188: “ this is a strange mindset. Calling people town and THEN trying to figure out who is scum. I might be wrong...” What what what? This was actually your argument? And then you said that you might be wrong implying that you weren’t confident in your argument.
Post 192: “swishh from what i have skimmed through SEEMS to be town…” Once again, not standing behind your reads.
Post 193: So what, you randomly change your vote because scarbo said so?
Post 199: “If you think UA is scum, why does it matter if he answers the questions?” Once again, what? You don’t want Zeman to scumhunt by asking questions?
Post 351 “However, i do think tom is being scummy for the aforementioned:
Post 1: person a is scummy. Vote person a.
Post 2: person a feels better now. Person b feels scummy and so does person c. Unvote vote person c
Post 3: person b and person c feel better now. Unvote. Someone tell me who to vote.” This is true . However you entirely abandoned your tom case and are now dismissing the case on him and defending him
Post 388 “DCIII has good points. I think I am going to follow him on this one.
Unvote
Vote Sir Karn” Here you barn DCIII and backflip
Post 555: “Like, you are rude. And very defensive. Super insulting..
Unvote
Vote UAL” Here you backflip again, right onto the most popular wagon. And look at all those reasons.
Post 655 “You are starting another wagon when most of us are pretty sure that UAL is scum. I admire your persistence tho. Seems quite towny actually. But your timing is way off. Trying to start a counter wagon this close to the end of day is odd. “ Attacking someone else is scummy and odd. No, it’s quite townie. No, it’s odd. You seem quite unable sometimes to post a definitive read.
K. So i should instantly think tom is town and not have any suspicion whatsoever at all of him because i defended him?
I voted you to pressure you to up your activity. I am liking your reasons for not posting more because you are actually making an effort now. I also did it to prove a point to BE. [b]unvote[\b]
I remember playing a game with you as scum... I can't recall which one. I THOGHT it was tmnt
@ BE i will awknowledge your case against me and rebut tomorrow when i am on a cpu
Zem's case at the end of Day 1 was legit. Rodemy is attempting to appear very active while also reacting heavily to people who suspect him. I'm also pretty sure that he's making up his reads.
#192 - Yesterday was the post where he took Zem off of his radar early for no reason and then used the same post to switch his stance on him. He seemed very nervous in his response to that.
BE captured a lot of the rest of his Day 1 in #812.
Today:
#704 - A bad reason to vote BE and also shows how over concerned he is with other's reads on him.
#760 - Has me believing in the "honestly" tell again as the post is littered with it, but is also a bad reason to vote for UAL and is also unconvincing considering the timing that he switched back from Karn to UAL - UAL had been grating a long time prior to that.
#762 - He starts speculating on the reason that Antny is dead which seems like a reach and seems like he had it ready.
#805 - Couching a lot of reads and giving himself outs. BE feels Town but could be scum trying to push a moot point. Tom is fishy pushing him as Town, though he's seen it before and it might not be a tell, Scarbo biggest Town read but that can change of the course of the game.... He's not really saying much of anything with those reads and is giving himself room to work in either direction. His read on me feels completely made up as we've only played TMNT together and I was Town.
Unvote: Vote: Rodemy
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Honestly?
Generally I agree with you and if he didn't say it I'd still be voting for him, but I do think in this case the amount of times it's come up along with the reasoning it's supporting and the rest of his phrasing seems very nervous/concerned when people are suspicious of him.
The below post/string of posts is very self-conscious:
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
But not because of the honestlys
I'll support Rodemy's or Nacho's lynch today.
For future reference, please link the posts to make it easier to respond. To do it, right click the post number and go to copy link.. then when type the post number, highlight it and click the little link button next to the landscape picture button. Copy the link in there....
Answers in blue.
Burning_Earth the Allosaurus (rr SirGrizz the Triceratops) - Town
DCIII the Pterodactylus - Leanscum
EtR the Compsognathus (fr Scrub the Nedoceratops) - Leantown
Nachomamma8 the Velociraptor - Leantown
Rodemy the Tyrannosaurus - Leanscum
Shockwave07 the Spinosaurus (rr LoneWolfBlood the Spinosaurus) - Scum
Sir Karn the Carbonemys - Town
swishh the Sinornithosaurus - Town
Tom the Ankylosaurus - Scum
zemanjaski the Deinonychus - Town
Some thoughts:
Rodemy has made a ton of bad posts since my last t/s. I agree with a lot of the points against him. I think it's highly likely that if Tom flips scum, then Rodemy is also scum.
I don't think DCIII and Rodemy can be scum together.
Shockwave is still lurking scum. Is he in prod range?
Tom is still scum.
B_E is one of the towniest people in the game.
I feel slightly better about DCIII toDay but still not good, and I feel a lot worse about Rodemy.
Most likely scumteam is: Shockwave, Tom, Rodemy.
Most townie people are: Karn, Scarbo, B_E, Zeman.
We learned last time that that "tell" is terrible.
I am the ******* Tracker. Get off my back and go somewhere else.
I am sorry i have appeared scummy and will try and do better.
I'll be dead tomorrow anyway
Tracked ETR last night. He didn't target anyone which is why i changed my stance on him toDay.
have you considered i am throwing ideas out there? I have no ******* clue who is scum and who is town right now. My uncertainty should give you some clue to that.
I am not as experienced as you guys. A lot of people can go: OH he is town. OH he is scum. I can't do that yet.
Rodemy, you're not THAT inexperienced anymore. And I have distinct memories of you fake-claiming PR as scum.
Not with a roleblocker.. or, ya know.. i die toNight.
Breadcrumb.. just so ya know.
Reverse engineered? Why point this out now if you aren't in claim range? Plus that phrase is common enough that it could be said and not be a breadcrumb attempt.
Also its about time for Seppel!Mod to step in and remind everyone who is up for a prod! (Look at Sesame Street Mafia if you wonder what I'm talking about.
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
Spider-Man Mafia 3 (Off-Site: NGA)
Metroid Mafia (Off-Site: Mafia Universe)
Do you have anything else to say? I forgot you were even in this game.
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Still want to lynch Nacho or Karn.
Someone who has played with him speak up please.
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I get self conscience.. but forced? Where are you getting that from? Nothing I am saying is "forced"
I can tell you now.. this is such norm for me I'm different.. and i like it.
Also read my sig quote. That explains a lot as well.
Especially since we weren't really going off track to begin with...
Unvote
I played with him once. He was erratic but he wasn't this nervous, but he was also vanilla. I doubt he'd throw that out there prior to claim range if he were scum. I believe him.
@Karn - What was your reasoning for your initial LeanTown read on Nacho and what have you thought specifically of his play Today?
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
I didn't have the time I wanted today, but I will confirm that this is accurate. It doesn't clear either one of us, but I won't touch Rodemy without a counter claim.
Also, if there is a counter claim, don't claim now. It'll work itself out later.
That Quebec post was from me. Sorry Guys.
Vote Nacho
Tom (1): Sir Karn,
Nachomamma8 (4): scarbo, Tom, zemanjaski, Burning_Earth
Not voting (5): DCIII, EtR, Nachomamma8, Rodemy, Shockwave07
Please let me know if you see any mistakes.
With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch!
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Red 1: So.. if tom flips town... then what?
Red 2: Oh wait.. he's scum.. so why did you say that first part?
You think he's scum.. yet are still unsure about his flip..
With that mindset you should have said: WHEN he flips scum, rodemy is scum too.
your words aren't consistent with your mindset.
Why are you rereading? You were so sure that Tom and Shock were scum.. how did my claim change that?
Your claim didn't change my reads on Tom and Shock. What makes you think that?
I was looking back at the game to make some content and see if there was anything I may have missed. As well as to answer the question I was asked of what gave me my initial leantown read on Nacho.
Exactly. I think he's scum but I'm not 100% certain of his flip.
You're getting good at this.