Stop implying that I was fishing for Role informaiton, dkings. That is not the case here and is outlined in my posts. If iRebel had thought I was asking for that Role information, then don't you think he would have answered in such a way? Rather than posting he understands me PoV on the matter.
Do you believe that my reasoning has revealed his Role in anyway?
- TubeHunter's vote on Rez is a leftover from RVS, so in essence DCIII was spearheading that wagon. OddiGem and iRebel are sitting in the obvscum spots, and iRebel is town. Hm.
- Also, if I'm reading this correctly, Megiddo and Kosa's names should be switched in the count based on the post numbers in ().
- Nothing changed in VC3 except Tanarin unvoted TubeHunter's RVS vote. In VC4, the only change was that B_E moved his vote from Odd to Rez.
Not Voting -- Deathjoey (0), Tanarin (302), Megiddo (474)
- Here, I put my vote down on B_E and Megiddo unvoted (need to go back and check why). I believe this is also around the time that Kosa disappeared but need to verify. DeathJoey is still doing nothing useful.
- Here, DeathJoey FINALLY votes someone, bringing B_E back to L-2, and masterplum throws down a vote on the competing wagon. Need to go back and check why he unvoted Proph's vote.
- The lynch. Antny hammered less than a day before the deadline and just a few posts after Megiddo put Rez at L-1.
I have a strong meta-based town read on DCIII, and Void never really wavered on B_E all day. Looking over this, I'm most interested in lynching either Oddigem or Deathjoey toDay.
Are you referring to Guardman claiming vig? IIRC, that only worked because the scum NK'ed the neutral on N1. If iRebel was scum, I think he would have kept quiet. If town went into toDay thinking B_E was the NK, I would be the default lynch (and probably with little discussion). He put his neck out there and claimed the kill knowing that B_E flipped town.
That is not the way a Townie should be looking at the situation. It's nothing but WIFOM trying to confirm a player based on information that cannot determine iRebel's alignment. Yes, iRebel did the Townie thing by claiming the kill on a Town player, but that does not make iRebel what he has claimed. As far as we know this game doesn't have Vig Role and that iRebel just came out with the perfect claim. If there is a Vig out there and it is not iRebel, then iRebel will likely be taken care of during the next Night Phase.
You are taking some unknowns and giving iRebel Town credit for it. You are Scum this game and it is time for you to swing.
how does Dkingsland saying he got told Antny is town impact Dk's alignment?
Because I am right with you on this Dk lynch but I am slightly cautious because of that.
It's hard to say. It's a bunch of WIFOM that can't be read properly without a flip. I was wary of dkings yesterday and toDay he not done anything that makes me believe he is Town. Everything he said thus far can come from either alignment.
I will point out that it makes more sense that dking would be Town in this situation based on the information present, but it could also be a gambit of sorts. For now I am comfortable having my vote where it is.
how does Dkingsland saying he got told Antny is town impact Dk's alignment?
Because I am right with you on this Dk lynch but I am slightly cautious because of that.
It's hard to say. It's a bunch of WIFOM that can't be read properly without a flip. I was wary of dkings yesterday and toDay he not done anything that makes me believe he is Town. Everything he said thus far can come from either alignment.
I will point out that it makes more sense that dking would be Town in this situation based on the information present, but it could also be a gambit of sorts. For now I am comfortable having my vote where it is.
I don't know what to make of DK's claim. I have a very strong scum read on the Antny slot primarily based around Tanarin's play making perfect sense if he knew both Rez and BE's alignments, but it seems like a risky gambit for DK to claim to have gotten this information about Antny without doing anything himself. If that's the case then there has to be some explanation for it that will come out one way or another, at which point we can evaluate that. If the explanation comes from Antny, then I won't feel good about it.
@Void and Meg - Why did you vote Antny heading into the Day? And, to Void specifically, if you think that DK's recent claim is more likely to come from Town than not, then why put your vote on him when you came into the Day voting for Antny?
@Odd iGem - What are your reasons for your suspects?
Odd, Kosa, and DJ have been skating and I'd like to see them put some work into this game with reasoning in addition to just giving reads.
So here's the thing: I've also received a message last Night. Paraphrasing, it said "Beware of immortality. It lurks around every corner."
I'm not 100% sure, but the flavor hinted that B_E's death was what triggered it, but still... two people receiving messages on the same Night? Is there a precedent for it?
AFAIK, my role isn't connected with B_E's whatsoever, so I'm a bit lost here.
@DCIII:
I did my vote primarily for reaction baiting. I had not commented (if I did it was minimal) on Tan's or Antny's play yesterDay and knew there would be pressure going that way. Seemed like a great opportunity to try and get a better read on Antny. The response was rather telling since Antny was asking for an explanation. That gave me the indication that Antny did do something last Night and was enough for me to keep my vote there for the time being.
The information that dkings provided has added a very thick layer of WIFOM to the game. It's too hard to ignore and is by far worse than the reasoning I have for voting Antny.
@Void and Meg - Why did you vote Antny heading into the Day? And, to Void specifically, if you think that DK's recent claim is more likely to come from Town than not, then why put your vote on him when you came into the Day voting for Antny?
Oh, you did.
Purely the hammer.
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@Meg/DCIII: I'll provide reasoning after DJ shows up.
@DCIII: Megiddo isn't a suspect of mine.
Why does everyone feel the need to wait for X person to show up before answering questions?
I'm here, is there some outstanding question that I haven't answered that prevents you from doing your thing?
I'm about half way done with my re-read.
I still don't like meggido.
I'm not sure what I think of dk now. His recent attitude feels weird and the 2 other neighbours being town were a bit unexpected. How often is there all town neighbourhoods?
DC and Irebel are now in my town pile.
That is not the way a Townie should be looking at the situation. It's nothing but WIFOM trying to confirm a player based on information that cannot determine iRebel's alignment. Yes, iRebel did the Townie thing by claiming the kill on a Town player, but that does not make iRebel what he has claimed. As far as we know this game doesn't have Vig Role and that iRebel just came out with the perfect claim. If there is a Vig out there and it is not iRebel, then iRebel will likely be taken care of during the next Night Phase.
You are taking some unknowns and giving iRebel Town credit for it. You are Scum this game and it is time for you to swing.
This is awful reasoning, and seriously, how many times are you going to trip over yourself with contradictions toDay? Your entire argument can be broken down to "everything points to DK being town, but I'm gonna vote him anyway". Not to mention the whole "I'm gonna fish for info about iRebel's role but I swear I'm not fishing for info and you're totally scum for thinking so".
I don't know what to make of DK's claim. I have a very strong scum read on the Antny slot primarily based around Tanarin's play making perfect sense if he knew both Rez and BE's alignments, but it seems like a risky gambit for DK to claim to have gotten this information about Antny without doing anything himself. If that's the case then there has to be some explanation for it that will come out one way or another, at which point we can evaluate that. If the explanation comes from Antny, then I won't feel good about it.
@Void and Meg - Why did you vote Antny heading into the Day? And, to Void specifically, if you think that DK's recent claim is more likely to come from Town than not, then why put your vote on him when you came into the Day voting for Antny?
I also had a strong scum read on Tanarin yesterday, but that was based around my belief that B_E was scum. With B_E flipped town, my read on that slot would have shifted back toward null if not for night actions.
I had to lol at the second bolded part. Void pushes me as scum in every single game based on pretty poor logic. In Smalltown, he proclaimed me obvscum because I called swishh scum on D2. Void's reasoning: He jailed swishh N1 meaning he could not have performed the NK, and thus I was "smearing" swishh (fun fact: swishh was scum). In another game, I was vigged because I directly interacted with a player Void thought was scum and my post contained words. He did it in Walking Dead too, although he was scum in that game so meh.
It's hard to say. It's a bunch of WIFOM that can't be read properly without a flip. I was wary of dkings yesterday and toDay he not done anything that makes me believe he is Town. Everything he said thus far can come from either alignment.
The only reason you were "wary" of me yesterday was because I argued against your logic of a scum/scum/town neighborhood.
And this whole "Everything he said thus far can come from either alignment" business looks an awful lot like you're hedging your bets on my flip since, you know, "I'm scum and it's time for me to swing".
On another note...
FWIW, I looked back over D1 of Hayate, and scum!Deathjoey played absolutely nothing in that game like he has here. He was much more active and invested. In fact, he had almost as many posts in RVS there as he did in all of D1 here. I still don't like his play in this game, though. He abstained from voting for almost the entirety of D1 and he never sufficiently explained the "All aboard" comment.
@Meg/DCIII: I'll provide reasoning after DJ shows up.
@DCIII: Megiddo isn't a suspect of mine.
Why does everyone feel the need to wait for X person to show up before answering questions?
I'm here, is there some outstanding question that I haven't answered that prevents you from doing your thing?
I'm about half way done with my re-read.
I still don't like meggido.
I'm not sure what I think of dk now. His recent attitude feels weird and the 2 other neighbours being town were a bit unexpected. How often is there all town neighbourhoods?
DC and Irebel are now in my town pile.
I wanted to wait because my reason for suspecting you is partly based on your play yesterDay and partly based on last Night. I know you targeted Megiddo last Night, and compared to everyone else here, he is probably high on the list of NK options.
I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
And I would like you to answer the questions in 697.
I like DCIII and Void's reasons for voting me. Meg's not so much, mainly taking 632 into account. That said, maybe this DJ wagon will make that moot.
@iRebel - Right now not sure. Maybe KosaKosa...
You mean that wasn't a rhetorical question? You should have not hammered until closer to deadline
What you hadn't had enough time to make whatever inane point to Void you were making (which wasn't that important since you didn't follow up today). I mean seriously I had held off voting on Saturday for you even when it was clear everyone else wanted the Day to end. But if those for hours I robbed you of were that important I'm sorry.
I don't have any hard numbers on this, but I'm targeted more often than a black guy driving a beat-up sedan with a broken tail-light and no license plate, and Cy's well aware of that.
The information that dkings provided has added a very thick layer of WIFOM to the game. It's too hard to ignore and is by far worse than the reasoning I have for voting Antny.
It is WIFOM, but why not try to get it resolved down the road once we get the explanation for it and evaluate then rather than push a lynch on him, especially if you think he's more likely to be Town now? The fact that he's introducing the WIFOM is only scummy if he's lying and I don't think we have a good way of telling if he is until we learn more about what caused the message.
I also had a strong scum read on Tanarin yesterday, but that was based around my belief that B_E was scum. With B_E flipped town, my read on that slot would have shifted back toward null if not for night actions.
Tanarin joined the game when both wagons were equally progressed and claimed both players Town. He didn't offer any real scum reads other than to suggest that via mod gaming you'd have to be the other scum, but he didn't put any kind of real pressure on you and didn't do any significant hunting, which I didn't like at the time because he was reading both Rez and BE as Town. If he was reading both as Town, why was he so content with making so little effort to find scum? I think it's because he knew that both Rez and BE were Town and didn't want to be the one to tip the scales on either, but also didn't want to disrupt either by making any kind of strong case on a different player. That's the only way I see his actions making sense knowing what we know about Rez and BE.
Why does everyone feel the need to wait for X person to show up before answering questions?
I'm here, is there some outstanding question that I haven't answered that prevents you from doing your thing?
I'm about half way done with my re-read.
I still don't like meggido.
I'm not sure what I think of dk now. His recent attitude feels weird and the 2 other neighbours being town were a bit unexpected. How often is there all town neighbourhoods?
DC and Irebel are now in my town pile.
What is your reasoning on Meg? What about DK seems weird? There are not enough whys going on in this game right now.
You had said you planned on explaining your DJ read after he showed up. I don't like how reserved you've been all throughout the end of Yesterday and then Today not giving reasons for your actions, first waiting on Meg and DJ, then waiting on DJ, and then not providing them even after DJ posted. You also reserved your vote until the wagon on him started to move. You were on the BE wagon early Yesterday and then switched to Rez after getting pressure, /barned my case and then mostly clammed up and let the competing wagons argue. You haven't made effort to provide your own reasoning to your cases outside of the formatting issue with BE at the beginning of the game and you haven't been scum hunting. Odd iGem is where I want my vote barring new info on the Antny clear.
You have no other questions you have an attempt to refute my point, which I am not going to do for you and a question in which the answer is already apparent.
You had said you planned on explaining your DJ read after he showed up. I don't like how reserved you've been all throughout the end of Yesterday and then Today not giving reasons for your actions, first waiting on Meg and DJ, then waiting on DJ, and then not providing them even after DJ posted. You also reserved your vote until the wagon on him started to move. You were on the BE wagon early Yesterday and then switched to Rez after getting pressure, /barned my case and then mostly clammed up and let the competing wagons argue. You haven't made effort to provide your own reasoning to your cases outside of the formatting issue with BE at the beginning of the game and you haven't been scum hunting. Odd iGem is where I want my vote barring new info on the Antny clear.
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I did not say that. I said I would provide my reasoning, and I did. Compared to everyone else in this game, Megiddo is someone I would expect to be a high-priority NK target. Since iRebel fessed up to vigging Burning_Earth, that means he wasn't the NK unless he was:
a) the target of both the NK and a vig; or
b) iRebel is lying (and therefore scum)
I caught Deathjoey targeting Megiddo last Night and there was theoretically no scum kill last Night. I shared the info that I had, then Megiddo voted Deathjoey, which confirmed my suspicion. What more is there to say? Incidentally, his lack of content and stingy voting yesterday weren't great, but are not my main reason.
You had said you planned on explaining your DJ read after he showed up. I don't like how reserved you've been all throughout the end of Yesterday and then Today not giving reasons for your actions, first waiting on Meg and DJ, then waiting on DJ, and then not providing them even after DJ posted. You also reserved your vote until the wagon on him started to move. You were on the BE wagon early Yesterday and then switched to Rez after getting pressure, /barned my case and then mostly clammed up and let the competing wagons argue. You haven't made effort to provide your own reasoning to your cases outside of the formatting issue with BE at the beginning of the game and you haven't been scum hunting. Odd iGem is where I want my vote barring new info on the Antny clear.
Vote: Odd iGem
I did not say that. I said I would provide my reasoning, and I did. Compared to everyone else in this game, Megiddo is someone I would expect to be a high-priority NK target. Since iRebel fessed up to vigging Burning_Earth, that means he wasn't the NK unless he was:
a) the target of both the NK and a vig; or
b) iRebel is lying (and therefore scum)
I caught Deathjoey targeting Megiddo last Night and there was theoretically no scum kill last Night. I shared the info that I had, then Megiddo voted Deathjoey, which confirmed my suspicion. What more is there to say? Incidentally, his lack of content and stingy voting yesterday weren't great, but are not my main reason.
Unvote Somehow I missed your post about targeting DJ. I thought that the wagon started on him based on DK's case and you jumped on and didn't explain yourself after saying you were going to.
You have no other questions you have an attempt to refute my point, which I am not going to do for you and a question in which the answer is already apparent.
No, you answered literally the first part of my post. Let me requote the second half:
[quote]The point is that you hammered at the first available time and you said it was a good thing. Which makes no sense as you hammered town. Hammering town is never ... well, almost never a good thing and I can't see how you are taking pride in it.
Show me where I said that please.
Also it was clear that either BE or Zed would be the lynch yesterday, so why should I voted for BE over Zed?
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Assuming that you watched Megiddo last night and saw me target Megiddo, the fact that he didn't die should tell you something.
Also, why should Megiddo voting me have any bearing on your suspicion of me? What exactly do you suspect me of doing?
@dk, my older games are somewhere on my blog/link in sig. I haven't gotten around to updating it with games from recently, but otherwise, I use this account exclusively for mafia so just check my post history.
@dc re Meg - I felt his back and forward stance between b_e and rez d1 was off and he used his flippant humor to jump between both wagons.
also, I think i'm at l-2. If I am, I'll claim when I get back from work in 5 hours from now. And explain a bit more why I think meg should be lynched.
also, the fact that dk started gunning for me hard after the two other neighbours flipped town should be an indicator that it's to stave off his own lynch.
While I approve of these Antny votes (That hammer was terrible) I am kind of surprised nobody has even mentioned Dking yet. We have had two neighbors flip town. Shouldn't that mean that Dking is very likely Scum? Am I completely missing something here?
What the hammer on the day of the deadline, days after the Day should have ended.
also, the fact that dk started gunning for me hard after the two other neighbours flipped town should be an indicator that it's to stave off his own lynch.
How does this make sense at all? I am gunning for you for the same reason. I'm guessing the host of this game wouldn't put in an all town neighborhood would he? Isn't that the whole point of a neighborhood is that it has scum in it?
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Do you believe that my reasoning has revealed his Role in anyway?
Unless iRebel is lying, and I don't think he is, I've got 5 confirmed town including myself and the 2 dead. Time to look at D1 wagons.
Have you read BSG Mafia?
- TubeHunter's vote on Rez is a leftover from RVS, so in essence DCIII was spearheading that wagon. OddiGem and iRebel are sitting in the obvscum spots, and iRebel is town. Hm.
- Also, if I'm reading this correctly, Megiddo and Kosa's names should be switched in the count based on the post numbers in ().
- Nothing changed in VC3 except Tanarin unvoted TubeHunter's RVS vote. In VC4, the only change was that B_E moved his vote from Odd to Rez.
- Here, I put my vote down on B_E and Megiddo unvoted (need to go back and check why). I believe this is also around the time that Kosa disappeared but need to verify. DeathJoey is still doing nothing useful.
- Here, DeathJoey FINALLY votes someone, bringing B_E back to L-2, and masterplum throws down a vote on the competing wagon. Need to go back and check why he unvoted Proph's vote.
- The lynch. Antny hammered less than a day before the deadline and just a few posts after Megiddo put Rez at L-1.
I have a strong meta-based town read on DCIII, and Void never really wavered on B_E all day. Looking over this, I'm most interested in lynching either Oddigem or Deathjoey toDay.
Are you referring to Guardman claiming vig? IIRC, that only worked because the scum NK'ed the neutral on N1. If iRebel was scum, I think he would have kept quiet. If town went into toDay thinking B_E was the NK, I would be the default lynch (and probably with little discussion). He put his neck out there and claimed the kill knowing that B_E flipped town.
I would like to hear from Megiddo and Deathjoey, and am interested in a Deathjoey lynch today.
Vote: Dkingsland
That is not the way a Townie should be looking at the situation. It's nothing but WIFOM trying to confirm a player based on information that cannot determine iRebel's alignment. Yes, iRebel did the Townie thing by claiming the kill on a Town player, but that does not make iRebel what he has claimed. As far as we know this game doesn't have Vig Role and that iRebel just came out with the perfect claim. If there is a Vig out there and it is not iRebel, then iRebel will likely be taken care of during the next Night Phase.
You are taking some unknowns and giving iRebel Town credit for it. You are Scum this game and it is time for you to swing.
how does Dkingsland saying he got told Antny is town impact Dk's alignment?
Because I am right with you on this Dk lynch but I am slightly cautious because of that.
It's hard to say. It's a bunch of WIFOM that can't be read properly without a flip. I was wary of dkings yesterday and toDay he not done anything that makes me believe he is Town. Everything he said thus far can come from either alignment.
I will point out that it makes more sense that dking would be Town in this situation based on the information present, but it could also be a gambit of sorts. For now I am comfortable having my vote where it is.
It's hard to say. It's a bunch of WIFOM that can't be read properly without a flip. I was wary of dkings yesterday and toDay he not done anything that makes me believe he is Town. Everything he said thus far can come from either alignment.
I will point out that it makes more sense that dking would be Town in this situation based on the information present, but it could also be a gambit of sorts. For now I am comfortable having my vote where it is.
I don't know what to make of DK's claim. I have a very strong scum read on the Antny slot primarily based around Tanarin's play making perfect sense if he knew both Rez and BE's alignments, but it seems like a risky gambit for DK to claim to have gotten this information about Antny without doing anything himself. If that's the case then there has to be some explanation for it that will come out one way or another, at which point we can evaluate that. If the explanation comes from Antny, then I won't feel good about it.
@Void and Meg - Why did you vote Antny heading into the Day? And, to Void specifically, if you think that DK's recent claim is more likely to come from Town than not, then why put your vote on him when you came into the Day voting for Antny?
@Odd iGem - What are your reasons for your suspects?
Odd, Kosa, and DJ have been skating and I'd like to see them put some work into this game with reasoning in addition to just giving reads.
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So here's the thing: I've also received a message last Night. Paraphrasing, it said "Beware of immortality. It lurks around every corner."
I'm not 100% sure, but the flavor hinted that B_E's death was what triggered it, but still... two people receiving messages on the same Night? Is there a precedent for it?
AFAIK, my role isn't connected with B_E's whatsoever, so I'm a bit lost here.
I did my vote primarily for reaction baiting. I had not commented (if I did it was minimal) on Tan's or Antny's play yesterDay and knew there would be pressure going that way. Seemed like a great opportunity to try and get a better read on Antny. The response was rather telling since Antny was asking for an explanation. That gave me the indication that Antny did do something last Night and was enough for me to keep my vote there for the time being.
The information that dkings provided has added a very thick layer of WIFOM to the game. It's too hard to ignore and is by far worse than the reasoning I have for voting Antny.
@DCIII: Megiddo isn't a suspect of mine.
anybody else have any questions for me?
Purely the hammer.
Why does everyone feel the need to wait for X person to show up before answering questions?
I'm here, is there some outstanding question that I haven't answered that prevents you from doing your thing?
I'm about half way done with my re-read.
I still don't like meggido.
I'm not sure what I think of dk now. His recent attitude feels weird and the 2 other neighbours being town were a bit unexpected. How often is there all town neighbourhoods?
DC and Irebel are now in my town pile.
This is awful reasoning, and seriously, how many times are you going to trip over yourself with contradictions toDay? Your entire argument can be broken down to "everything points to DK being town, but I'm gonna vote him anyway". Not to mention the whole "I'm gonna fish for info about iRebel's role but I swear I'm not fishing for info and you're totally scum for thinking so".
I also had a strong scum read on Tanarin yesterday, but that was based around my belief that B_E was scum. With B_E flipped town, my read on that slot would have shifted back toward null if not for night actions.
I had to lol at the second bolded part. Void pushes me as scum in every single game based on pretty poor logic. In Smalltown, he proclaimed me obvscum because I called swishh scum on D2. Void's reasoning: He jailed swishh N1 meaning he could not have performed the NK, and thus I was "smearing" swishh (fun fact: swishh was scum). In another game, I was vigged because I directly interacted with a player Void thought was scum and my post contained words. He did it in Walking Dead too, although he was scum in that game so meh.
The only reason you were "wary" of me yesterday was because I argued against your logic of a scum/scum/town neighborhood.
And this whole "Everything he said thus far can come from either alignment" business looks an awful lot like you're hedging your bets on my flip since, you know, "I'm scum and it's time for me to swing".
On another note...
FWIW, I looked back over D1 of Hayate, and scum!Deathjoey played absolutely nothing in that game like he has here. He was much more active and invested. In fact, he had almost as many posts in RVS there as he did in all of D1 here. I still don't like his play in this game, though. He abstained from voting for almost the entirety of D1 and he never sufficiently explained the "All aboard" comment.
@DJ: Can you point me to one of your town games?
I wanted to wait because my reason for suspecting you is partly based on your play yesterDay and partly based on last Night. I know you targeted Megiddo last Night, and compared to everyone else here, he is probably high on the list of NK options.
Vote: Joey
Claim time or pain time. Choo Choo
Vote Deathjoey
Not Voting -- DCIII (713), Antny (), Kosakosa (), iRebel (), Deathjoey ()
With 10 players alive, it is 6 votes for a lynch.
Who does everyone think I should shoot, and why?
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It's a no-brainer.
I appreciate the quick reply, but I'd also appreciate a name so there's no room for interpretation.
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To answer your question, yes. Sort of. I'll wait until we hear from DJ before saying anything.
And I would like you to answer the questions in 697.
I like DCIII and Void's reasons for voting me. Meg's not so much, mainly taking 632 into account. That said, maybe this DJ wagon will make that moot.
@iRebel - Right now not sure. Maybe KosaKosa...
You'll get used to myself eventually.
???
You mean that wasn't a rhetorical question? You should have not hammered until closer to deadline
I meant "me", Portuguese autocorrect on iPhone gets a little crazy when I'm typing in English and forget to change it :fix:
What you hadn't had enough time to make whatever inane point to Void you were making (which wasn't that important since you didn't follow up today). I mean seriously I had held off voting on Saturday for you even when it was clear everyone else wanted the Day to end. But if those for hours I robbed you of were that important I'm sorry.
Now please answer the rest of my questions.
Why KosaKosa?
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Why KosaKosa?
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After Zed/BEs flip I feel worse about the players holding back yesterday and KosaKosa was lurky and that makes me suspicious.
It is WIFOM, but why not try to get it resolved down the road once we get the explanation for it and evaluate then rather than push a lynch on him, especially if you think he's more likely to be Town now? The fact that he's introducing the WIFOM is only scummy if he's lying and I don't think we have a good way of telling if he is until we learn more about what caused the message.
Why were you waiting to hear form Megiddo if he wasn't a suspect of yours?
Tanarin joined the game when both wagons were equally progressed and claimed both players Town. He didn't offer any real scum reads other than to suggest that via mod gaming you'd have to be the other scum, but he didn't put any kind of real pressure on you and didn't do any significant hunting, which I didn't like at the time because he was reading both Rez and BE as Town. If he was reading both as Town, why was he so content with making so little effort to find scum? I think it's because he knew that both Rez and BE were Town and didn't want to be the one to tip the scales on either, but also didn't want to disrupt either by making any kind of strong case on a different player. That's the only way I see his actions making sense knowing what we know about Rez and BE.
What is your reasoning on Meg? What about DK seems weird? There are not enough whys going on in this game right now.
You had said you planned on explaining your DJ read after he showed up. I don't like how reserved you've been all throughout the end of Yesterday and then Today not giving reasons for your actions, first waiting on Meg and DJ, then waiting on DJ, and then not providing them even after DJ posted. You also reserved your vote until the wagon on him started to move. You were on the BE wagon early Yesterday and then switched to Rez after getting pressure, /barned my case and then mostly clammed up and let the competing wagons argue. You haven't made effort to provide your own reasoning to your cases outside of the formatting issue with BE at the beginning of the game and you haven't been scum hunting. Odd iGem is where I want my vote barring new info on the Antny clear.
Vote: Odd iGem
Let me answer this after we know who Today's lynch is going to be.
There were a few players who were lurky to close out Yesterday, why did you pick Kosa over the others?
Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
Did you not read the exchange above? I wanted to see if Megiddo might come forward about being targeted last Night.
You had said you planned on explaining your DJ read after he showed up. I don't like how reserved you've been all throughout the end of Yesterday and then Today not giving reasons for your actions, first waiting on Meg and DJ, then waiting on DJ, and then not providing them even after DJ posted. You also reserved your vote until the wagon on him started to move. You were on the BE wagon early Yesterday and then switched to Rez after getting pressure, /barned my case and then mostly clammed up and let the competing wagons argue. You haven't made effort to provide your own reasoning to your cases outside of the formatting issue with BE at the beginning of the game and you haven't been scum hunting. Odd iGem is where I want my vote barring new info on the Antny clear.
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I did not say that. I said I would provide my reasoning, and I did. Compared to everyone else in this game, Megiddo is someone I would expect to be a high-priority NK target. Since iRebel fessed up to vigging Burning_Earth, that means he wasn't the NK unless he was:
a) the target of both the NK and a vig; or
b) iRebel is lying (and therefore scum)
I caught Deathjoey targeting Megiddo last Night and there was theoretically no scum kill last Night. I shared the info that I had, then Megiddo voted Deathjoey, which confirmed my suspicion. What more is there to say? Incidentally, his lack of content and stingy voting yesterday weren't great, but are not my main reason.
Did you not read the exchange above? I wanted to see if Megiddo might come forward about being targeted last Night.
I did not say that. I said I would provide my reasoning, and I did. Compared to everyone else in this game, Megiddo is someone I would expect to be a high-priority NK target. Since iRebel fessed up to vigging Burning_Earth, that means he wasn't the NK unless he was:
a) the target of both the NK and a vig; or
b) iRebel is lying (and therefore scum)
I caught Deathjoey targeting Megiddo last Night and there was theoretically no scum kill last Night. I shared the info that I had, then Megiddo voted Deathjoey, which confirmed my suspicion. What more is there to say? Incidentally, his lack of content and stingy voting yesterday weren't great, but are not my main reason.
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Town Win % = 75%
Mafia Win % = 75%
Overall Win % = 75%
Completed Game Log
2014: Best Mafia Performance (Group)
2014: Most Improved Player
2014: Best Town Player
2014: Best Overall Player
No, you answered literally the first part of my post. Let me requote the second half:
Assuming that you watched Megiddo last night and saw me target Megiddo, the fact that he didn't die should tell you something.
Also, why should Megiddo voting me have any bearing on your suspicion of me? What exactly do you suspect me of doing?
@dk, my older games are somewhere on my blog/link in sig. I haven't gotten around to updating it with games from recently, but otherwise, I use this account exclusively for mafia so just check my post history.
@dc re Meg - I felt his back and forward stance between b_e and rez d1 was off and he used his flippant humor to jump between both wagons.
also, I think i'm at l-2. If I am, I'll claim when I get back from work in 5 hours from now. And explain a bit more why I think meg should be lynched.
How does this make sense at all? I am gunning for you for the same reason. I'm guessing the host of this game wouldn't put in an all town neighborhood would he? Isn't that the whole point of a neighborhood is that it has scum in it?