I should have stuck with my vote, but hindsight is 20/20.
I get ******* paranoid when people get silent during Lylo, Sesame Street being another example, plus silence was how I won off site as scum on NoGoblinsAllowed. Place an early vote let town paranoia do its work.
Rhand actually was looking like he was trying to solve this so I was nervous to call him scum. I was right on a sorts of tell on Deathjoey.
And I had absolutely no idea what 77Hawk7 and Wheat were doing. In the aftermath looks like Nny (retired Iso gimmick) and Fadeblue, respectively, all over again from Sesame Street.
Silence hurts town in Lylo.
And I ****** up again. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
I should have stuck with my vote, but hindsight is 20/20.
I get ******* paranoid when people get silent during Lylo, Sesame Street being another example, plus silence was how I won off site as scum on NoGoblinsAllowed. Place an early vote let town paranoia do its work.
Rhand actually was looking like he was trying to solve this so I was nervous to call him scum. I was right on a sorts of tell on Deathjoey.
And I had absolutely no idea what 77Hawk7 and Wheat were doing. In the aftermath looks like Nny (retired Iso gimmick) and Fadeblue, respectively, all over again from Sesame Street.
Silence hurts town in Lylo.
And I ****** up again. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Yeah, the problem is that the towns in Sesame Street and this game weren't particularly motivated to solve the game - Sesame Street was Lurker Street, and this game had a super long Day 1.
You should never cast an early vote in lylo until everyone has agreed to it. I quote Asenion/Dragonheart for my lylo advice:
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If you wish to learn from that, then do the following: At the start of each Day analyze whether it's even POSSIBLE for it to be LyLo. If it is possible, however unlikely, then treat it as LyLo no matter what. During a LyLo situation, DO NOT VOTE at all whatsoever. Purely use FoS and talk to other players. You should all come to an agreement before a single vote is placed, and you should gather ALL possible information before hand. During LyLo everyone should full claim and describe all of their Night actions from the entire game, preferably with flavor. Then, everyone should re-read the game to look for clues and re-examine interactions with your end-game information. None of the things I just listed were done in Avatar Mafia and your vote made it easy for us to coordinate a hammer. This isn't purely your fault, as Iso should have known this very well being an experienced player and yet he fell into the same trap. Just learn from this and don't repeat it.
Also for those wondering, mostly based on spec chat comments, no I have no expirience with the flavor of this anime/manga outside of this and the provided wiki link. Figured use it to the best of my abilities however.
God this was nerfwrecking. With a buddy that never posts, I needed a damn good reason to put a vote on the townie that already had a vote so he could hammer.
Sorry for destroying your case like that Shock, it happened to be what I needed. I felt bad when I saw your reaction.
@Wheat: I don't consider myself that good at mafia
Scarlet Rage had a very, very good case against me at one point. I was lucky that she included Swishh and Storyteller in it, which made it possible to dismiss the whole case, but the things she said about me were very much on the mark.
@Wheat: I don't consider myself that good at mafia
Between Unseen, Astarte, and this (to my knowledge your only completed scum games?) you definitely are. I'm hoping we can land in a game as opposite alignments someday.
@Wheat: I don't consider myself that good at mafia
Between Unseen, Astarte, and this (to my knowledge your only completed scum games?) you definitely are. I'm hoping we can land in a game as opposite alignments someday.
Yup, those are the only 3.
I do enjoy being scum more than being town.
I keep thinking that when more and more people have seen me as scum, I will be rooted out easily.
Also since I didn't say this earlier, one thing that was making me target Deathjoey was as the game dragged on he was posting less and less. Felt like Archmage Eternal from Walking Dead.
I wasn't certain who I could clear, but was strongly thinking he was at least half of the team.
Either way, good game and well played Rhand.
Will people be looking at town and mafia MVPs for this game?
Town I think Kosa or Scarlet.
Kosa solved the game after he died.
Scarlet had the only case on me that could have gotten me lynched.
Scum EtR for drawing out 2 PR's out of an unsalvageable position.
That's a hammer... The first thing you do when you get back is hammer... Give me a sec while I make sure my heart is still working...
And the results? Results?!
Results?!?!?!
Technically I'm still sick, and have been since I got back from my trip =P
But yeah, my activity levels are always my worst point, and being away for 14 days with internet access only in hotel, after being a tourist all day isn't the best way to play =[
Well done Rhand and EtR for being able to salvage that somehow being down a person.
I can't believe you went and ended 2 days in a row in something like 24 hours...
Imagine me checking the thread before I head out in the morning [Night 2] and coming back to [Night 3]?!
I think MVP should be Scarlet, coming into the game and immediately almost calling the scumteam. That was scary.
@Wheat: I don't consider myself that good at mafia
Scarlet Rage had a very, very good case against me at one point. I was lucky that she included Swishh and Storyteller in it, which made it possible to dismiss the whole case, but the things she said about me were very much on the mark.
That's not a bad attitude to hold onto, but I believe that you are better than you think.
Fulcrum (you will see in the Spec Chat) I mentioned that you should wait for a claim before you Vig someone. I'm not the best practiced at this either, but it is something to know. I understand how my behavior was Scummy from a certain PoV, but, based on my Role, I believed there to be a Bodyguard over a Doc for balancing reasons. Cop + Doc can lead to follow the Cop which can be rather unfair to any Scum team.
I appreciate your opinion, but I don't think I'd have the will/leadership to prove that you were scum, though. The amount of replacements and absurd D1 post count made me kinda frustrated. Not to mention that the new site is also severely reducing my will to play Mafia.
Sorry about my absence, I was dealing with stuff IRL. Shockwave focusing on my thoughts was weird, especially since I hadn't shared much of them before my absence. I haven't read the rest of the game that closely but DJ's defense of fulcrum day 1 was textbook scum defending town and what I considered the biggest point in fulcrum's favor.
What exactly happened to have the towniest player get lynched day 1?
I don't feel that I deserve the Town MVP for this game.
Rhand for Scum MVP. EtR gets an honorable mention for his play though. If it wasn't for explosive force I believe that EtR would have had a better game.
Fulcrum (you will see in the Spec Chat) I mentioned that you should wait for a claim before you Vig someone. I'm not the best practiced at this either, but it is something to know. I understand how my behavior was Scummy from a certain PoV, but, based on my Role, I believed there to be a Bodyguard over a Doc for balancing reasons. Cop + Doc can lead to follow the Cop which can be rather unfair to any Scum team.
Fair point. I'll keep in mind for the next time I roll vig.
Swissh being scum which was lead me to Rhand scum. Rhand did some independently scummy things though.
I'm resigned that Swisshh is another version of Wake (a player who deliberately acts scummy to get reads). I really don't like those kinds of players.
I was also freaking shocked I got lynched. Even as scum, I'd never come in and rescue a boned buddy that bad unless losing the buddy would totally lose us the game. Oh well. I guess I played to a scum site meta or something.
I also had DJ as solid town. Hawk was conftown and I was able to elucidate that.
I do apologize for not posting in death chats. I never do that for the most part as I want distance after I lose unless NKed on night one or something like that.
Vote EtR scum MVP, drawing out the ccs worked very well.
Vote Hawk for town MVP, mostly for town MVP. His reactions were very townie providing my base from which to figure out the game.
TO be clear, during the game I don't like deliberately scummy players. I love playing with them but they are frustrating. In that way, I don't like them.
So from the looks of it, Scarlet Rage for town MVP and Rhand for scum MVP. Congrats! And thank you all for playing. If there's anything that I did or did not do as a mod that you liked or disliked, please let me know via PM.
Also, I was hoping for a much more scintillating Iso/kpaca mentor chat.
"mentor" chat
I get ******* paranoid when people get silent during Lylo, Sesame Street being another example, plus silence was how I won off site as scum on NoGoblinsAllowed. Place an early vote let town paranoia do its work.
Rhand actually was looking like he was trying to solve this so I was nervous to call him scum. I was right on a sorts of tell on Deathjoey.
And I had absolutely no idea what 77Hawk7 and Wheat were doing. In the aftermath looks like Nny (retired Iso gimmick) and Fadeblue, respectively, all over again from Sesame Street.
Silence hurts town in Lylo.
And I ****** up again. :banghead::banghead::banghead:
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
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I shoulda known clearing a player for being the only player to be playing even a little bit decently was a mistake; scum don't screw up as easily.
Well I'll remember that for next time maybe.
Congrats on the win, it was well-deserved.
Yeah, the problem is that the towns in Sesame Street and this game weren't particularly motivated to solve the game - Sesame Street was Lurker Street, and this game had a super long Day 1.
You should never cast an early vote in lylo until everyone has agreed to it. I quote Asenion/Dragonheart for my lylo advice:
But may check out this show if I get the chance.
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
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Sorry for destroying your case like that Shock, it happened to be what I needed. I felt bad when I saw your reaction.
@Wheat: I don't consider myself that good at mafia
Scarlet Rage had a very, very good case against me at one point. I was lucky that she included Swishh and Storyteller in it, which made it possible to dismiss the whole case, but the things she said about me were very much on the mark.
Between Unseen, Astarte, and this (to my knowledge your only completed scum games?) you definitely are. I'm hoping we can land in a game as opposite alignments someday.
Yup, those are the only 3.
I do enjoy being scum more than being town.
I keep thinking that when more and more people have seen me as scum, I will be rooted out easily.
I wasn't certain who I could clear, but was strongly thinking he was at least half of the team.
Either way, good game and well played Rhand.
Will people be looking at town and mafia MVPs for this game?
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
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If I had to name one now, I'd say Mafia MVP is either EtR or Rhand. Town MVP Scarlet, Wheat or Void?
Votes for Town MVP:
Scarlet (2): Rhand, DJ, Fulcrum
Kosakosa (1): Rhand
Void (1): hawk
hawk (2): EtR, Scarlet Rage
Scum MVP:
EtR (1): Rhand, Scarlet Rage
Rhand (4): WG, EtR, hawk, Void, Fulcrum
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Kosa solved the game after he died.
Scarlet had the only case on me that could have gotten me lynched.
Scum EtR for drawing out 2 PR's out of an unsalvageable position.
Technically I'm still sick, and have been since I got back from my trip =P
But yeah, my activity levels are always my worst point, and being away for 14 days with internet access only in hotel, after being a tourist all day isn't the best way to play =[
Well done Rhand and EtR for being able to salvage that somehow being down a person.
I can't believe you went and ended 2 days in a row in something like 24 hours...
Imagine me checking the thread before I head out in the morning [Night 2] and coming back to [Night 3]?!
I think MVP should be Scarlet, coming into the game and immediately almost calling the scumteam. That was scary.
Naming anyone but Rhand scum MVP is a travesty.
That's not a bad attitude to hold onto, but I believe that you are better than you think.
Fulcrum (you will see in the Spec Chat) I mentioned that you should wait for a claim before you Vig someone. I'm not the best practiced at this either, but it is something to know. I understand how my behavior was Scummy from a certain PoV, but, based on my Role, I believed there to be a Bodyguard over a Doc for balancing reasons. Cop + Doc can lead to follow the Cop which can be rather unfair to any Scum team.
I have to say, as proud as I am for outing 2 PR's, Rhand is the clear MVP for the scum team.
For town, it's a little harder. Hawk actually called the whole scum team so he's got that going for him.
Regardless, congrats on the very good game
What exactly happened to have the towniest player get lynched day 1?
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Rhand for Scum MVP. EtR gets an honorable mention for his play though. If it wasn't for explosive force I believe that EtR would have had a better game.
Fair point. I'll keep in mind for the next time I roll vig.
IMO: Scum MVP for Rhand and Town MVP for Scarlet.
I'm resigned that Swisshh is another version of Wake (a player who deliberately acts scummy to get reads). I really don't like those kinds of players.
I was also freaking shocked I got lynched. Even as scum, I'd never come in and rescue a boned buddy that bad unless losing the buddy would totally lose us the game. Oh well. I guess I played to a scum site meta or something.
I also had DJ as solid town. Hawk was conftown and I was able to elucidate that.
I do apologize for not posting in death chats. I never do that for the most part as I want distance after I lose unless NKed on night one or something like that.
Vote EtR scum MVP, drawing out the ccs worked very well.
Vote Hawk for town MVP, mostly for town MVP. His reactions were very townie providing my base from which to figure out the game.
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