Abilities: You may vote during the day. Once per night, you may PM the mod with the name of one player that you would like to protect. If the chosen player would be killed that night, that player is not killed instead. You may not choose yourself.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may communicate with the other mafia members, privately, here. Once per night, you may PM the mod with the name of one person that you would like to investigate. Just before dawn, you will be notified of that player's role. Once per night, you or one of the other mafia members can make a night kill.
Win Condition: You win when the mafia outnumber the town.
"Me just met you
and this is crazy
but you got cookie
so share it maybe"
You are Count von Count, Mafia Goon.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may communicate with the other mafia members, privately, here. Once per night, you or one of the other mafia members can make a night kill.
Win Condition: You win when the mafia outnumber the town.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may communicate with the other mafia members, privately, here. Once per night, you or one of the other mafia members can make a night kill.
Win Condition: You win when the mafia outnumber the town.
@Proph: Well another reason why I didn't want to flavor game is because I also was thinking that the game wouldn't be set up to be break-able by flavor...
Wrong.
So... What's your opinion on best town player this game?
Blah! How did Karn skate through? IIRC, he waffled on me until the lynch seemed assured then jumped on.
And Shockwave, Cantrip heavily bussed in Apocalypse. That shouldn't have really been a point in Karn's flavor. (Heck, me being confused on Cantrip is one of the reasons I had pressure and got lynched.)
I do think that if a Generic lived, Karn would have gotten a lot more scrutiny.
Generic is seriously non-rvs voting me because he's still mad about last game, and it's basically all he can talk about. (And he has a very selective memory of what ACTUALLY happened last game...) He has absolutely the thickest skull I've seen on this entire site, and he believes himself to be infallible.
If he continues this I will be asking him to replace out or I will request a replacement for myself. I really dislike Generic and this is just ridiculous and something he shouldn't be doing.
Just fair warning.
....
You were scum.
That is all.
Your reasoning was because you were still mad about the previous game. You didn't "catch" me, and there wasn't anything from this game that was the reason for that vote.
Your Jimmies were still rustled.
That is all.
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@LnGrrrR: Based on the reads and actions he had before he died, I think I'd have been fine. Only killed him because he was the Doc.
Karn, your read on me post 746 was somewhat waffly. Especially after Seppel starts to question his read and you stuck with it. Plus, you were content to let Megiddo/Fighting press the attack on me. And post 835, you unvote, then say you still have Proph as scum read 1, but don't vote him in the same post. Then post 865 you jumped to me with a semi-lazy "think I am ready to lynch Grrrr" with no comment on Proph, and no vote.
Of course, easier to see in hindsight, but those were the posts that had me going "hmmm" after I flipped.
Oh, and can I say that the whole "over justification of your vote!" tell is completely BS in my opinion? Voting WITHOUT explaining is scummy to me; voting with explanation is towny because it explains mindset. (You used that Karn but so did Fighting.)
I really dislike when people are like, "LOL YOU ARE SCUM GG" when I'm town. People have an overinflated sense of ego with this game sometimes. It's why I am usually cautious and don't say 100% that someone is scum or town unless I know.
I will say good job for getting me lynched D2. I had a bad game D1 and you guys used it to your advantage.
Megiddo, honestly, you had me so pissed off. It as pretty much "why aren't you presenting something?" And whenever I did try to it was "lol you're scum gg". It didn't feel like any of town was actually listening to me; instead they saw me as scum, so anything that sounded scummy automatically confirmed their beliefs.
I don't know what I could have done to fight off the mislynch there.
Apology accept Megiddo; next time I will try not to take it so personally. The worst thing is that it wasn't just you, but pretty much all of town saying "you are stalling, provide reads" etc, and then when I did no one actually read them or looked over them, even when I flipped town.
Oh and it's funny that Karn did the whole "false vig claim!" when they were both on the same team
I really dislike when people are like, "LOL YOU ARE SCUM GG" when I'm town. People have an overinflated sense of ego with this game sometimes. It's why I am usually cautious and don't say 100% that someone is scum or town unless I know.
The problem is, if you aren't confident enough, other people won't listen to you.
Sometimes you need to be kind of a dick to the one you're pushing (or the one you are being pushed by) in order to get others to listen to you. If you have much bravado, more people tend to listen.
This game is also another piece of evidence that this site has become bus-happy.
In all of my scum games I have super-bussed my teammates for the most part. I was afraid someone would know my meta and I'd be caught later in the game.
I won't be going out of my way to bus for a while.
#WIFOM
Seriously though, it amazes me how people think explaining views or responding politely to a scum read (fade thought this was a scum tell) is seen as scummy. There's a difference between waffling and acknowledging fallibility, though it might be too subtle for mafia.
I was actually pretty proud of how townie I looked this game.
You were pretty obviously scum to me around the Day we lynched Seppel, but Seppel flipping town threw a damper on my reads. The fact that you hadn't claimed up to endgame was a pretty solid point against you, IMO, and the fact that you were The Count was what put me back on to you - though I doubt anyone would have bought that argument. Either way, I couldn't climb out of the hole I was in without pushing a No Lynch and that would've still had dubious results at best, I'm sure.
Not thrilled with fade throwing the game after I asked him to consider my angle. Since when is asking someone to play the game thoroughly scummy?
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'd have acted the same way if I were town. Your "case" had nothing to do with this game and it angered me that you were legitimately voting me (and thought yourself correct) for something that was out-of-game. That's just something you're not suppose to do.
No, Silver Rage is when you "get mad" for not being able to get town credit for pushing your buddy/being on their lynch.
Also, from the multiple times I've seen the tell noted (and noted it myself) it is definitely not exclusive to pushing your buddy. It's complaining about missing any part of the game where you think you could have gotten town credit - such as Cantrip complaining about missing RVS this game.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It's complaining about missing something the person thinks they could have gotten town credit for.
iunno what he was planning on rvsing
Edit: Complaining about overall pace of the game (how quickly it's moving, and not being able to make points when you wanted to) has been noted as well. That one has been fairly accurate as a scum tell, as far as those things go.
I remember a little game called small town, were mr karn was so sure he had found a scumslip from me, based on a lead up of pro town play. Such was this 'eye for a tell' that he pushed a mislynch on what he later back peddled as one if his strongest town reads.
unvote,
Vote sir karn
Once again for idiocy, this time carry over idiocy when he should have learned his lesson.
I vote you for previous game related stuff... That's essentially meta.
So is meta banned now?
I proved how this situation was NOTHING like Smalltown in my following posts. (Mainly here.)
If you still don't get it, you still won't get it, but we don't need to get into that again.
I have to say that out of game angle Generic brought in just muddied the waters in a way it shouldn't have. Mainly because Generic was voting Karn for a reason based on Karn's town play.
It was one of the reasons I never did clear Generic, as I was having a hard time seeing past that moment as a pro-town move.
That said I would appreciate some criticism of my play from anyone as I know I made my share of blunders in the game.
I have to say that out of game angle Generic brought in just muddied the waters in a way it shouldn't have. Mainly because Generic was voting Karn for a reason based on Karn's town play.
It was one of the reasons I never did clear Generic, as I was having a hard time seeing past that moment as a pro-town move.
That said I would appreciate some criticism of my play from anyone as I know I made my share of blunders in the game.
I would recommend improving your analysis skills and spending more time on improving the quality of your posts.
Could you point out specific (pun not intended) areas in this game where I could comment on? We can take this to PM if you wish.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
No, Silver Rage is when you "get mad" for not being able to get town credit for pushing your buddy/being on their lynch.
Also, from the multiple times I've seen the tell noted (and noted it myself) it is definitely not exclusive to pushing your buddy. It's complaining about missing any part of the game where you think you could have gotten town credit - such as Cantrip complaining about missing RVS this game.
FTR, I would have made the same post as town. Not for some townie cred I might've garnered, but because I hate missing RVS. Although the RVS's recently haven't been as amusing as the RVS's of my youth...
Congrats to Karn, who wasn't afraid to bus the only scum power role, and bus me into the ground. I think that may have been an unconscious factor in people's perception of whether what you were doing was bussing.
Sorry for my bad plays this game. I wasn't really in it for some reason, although the flavor was top notch.
Thanks to Tom for running a great and entertaining (from a post-death enjoyment perspective) game.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Sir Karn got into the best endgame situation, so I'm glad about that.
Is this Generic's first loss as town on MTGS?
Our nameclaims were OK.
Mafia Chat
You are Grover, Town Doctor.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. Once per night, you may PM the mod with the name of one player that you would like to protect. If the chosen player would be killed that night, that player is not killed instead. You may not choose yourself.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adZg1kbcTIQ
"Do not worry! I, Grover, am here to help you!"
You are Bert, Town Mason.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may also communicate privately with the other mason at any time, here.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Uv6vD4v1A
"Why me?"
You are Ernie, Town Mason.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may also communicate privately with the other mason at any time, here.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
"Heya Burt. Burt? Hey Burt? Burt? Hey Burt?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw-lca6kk7w
You are Baby Bear, Town Vanilla.
Abilities: You may vote during the day.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVHnA40fpiA
"We go scwubby scwubby scwubby when we take our bathy wathy"
You are Big Bird, Town Vanilla.
Abilities: You may vote during the day.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkFxUVVhYyA
"ABC-DEF-GHI-JKL-MNOP-QRSTUV-WXYZ
If I ever find out just what this word can mean
I'll be the smartest bird the world has ever seen!"
You are Elmo, Town Vanilla.
Abilities: You may vote during the day.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfC_KHgmkI
"Na-na na-na
na-na na-na
Elmo's world"
You are Rosita, Town Vanilla.
Abilities: You may vote during the day.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6Tgs3-PSF0
"¿Hablas en español?"
You are Telly Monster, Town Vanilla.
Abilities: You may vote during the day.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Z6tDSb6c8
"I love triangles."
You are Zoe, Town Vanilla.
Abilities: You may vote during the day.
Win Condition: You win when all members of the mafia are dead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgfmcAYuAj8
"IIIIIIIII can spell my name!"
You are Cookie Monster, Mafia Roll Cop.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may communicate with the other mafia members, privately, here. Once per night, you may PM the mod with the name of one person that you would like to investigate. Just before dawn, you will be notified of that player's role. Once per night, you or one of the other mafia members can make a night kill.
Win Condition: You win when the mafia outnumber the town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qTIGg3I5y8
"Me just met you
and this is crazy
but you got cookie
so share it maybe"
You are Count von Count, Mafia Goon.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may communicate with the other mafia members, privately, here. Once per night, you or one of the other mafia members can make a night kill.
Win Condition: You win when the mafia outnumber the town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIniljT5lJI
"One ah ah ah
Two ah ah ah
Three ah ah ah"
You are Oscar the Grouch, Mafia Goon.
Abilities: You may vote during the day. You may communicate with the other mafia members, privately, here. Once per night, you or one of the other mafia members can make a night kill.
Win Condition: You win when the mafia outnumber the town.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zu-isCSp0s
"It's not that easy being green."
I enjoyed watching it.
How do you treat Wheat? :3
I almost did go the flavor game route, but I got cold feet based on my last crazy theory proving wrong (dhockwave).
Dang it!!!
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
Spider-Man Mafia 3 (Off-Site: NGA)
Metroid Mafia (Off-Site: Mafia Universe)
Good job though, I didn't suspect you.
edit: for once
Wrong.
So... What's your opinion on best town player this game?
I think we already have an answer to best scum...
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
Spider-Man Mafia 3 (Off-Site: NGA)
Metroid Mafia (Off-Site: Mafia Universe)
And Shockwave, Cantrip heavily bussed in Apocalypse. That shouldn't have really been a point in Karn's flavor. (Heck, me being confused on Cantrip is one of the reasons I had pressure and got lynched.)
I do think that if a Generic lived, Karn would have gotten a lot more scrutiny.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Your reasoning was because you were still mad about the previous game. You didn't "catch" me, and there wasn't anything from this game that was the reason for that vote.
Your Jimmies were still rustled.
That is all.
---
@LnGrrrR: Based on the reads and actions he had before he died, I think I'd have been fine. Only killed him because he was the Doc.
Also, iirc I did no such waffling.
Of course, easier to see in hindsight, but those were the posts that had me going "hmmm" after I flipped.
Oh, and can I say that the whole "over justification of your vote!" tell is completely BS in my opinion? Voting WITHOUT explaining is scummy to me; voting with explanation is towny because it explains mindset. (You used that Karn but so did Fighting.)
I really dislike when people are like, "LOL YOU ARE SCUM GG" when I'm town. People have an overinflated sense of ego with this game sometimes. It's why I am usually cautious and don't say 100% that someone is scum or town unless I know.
I will say good job for getting me lynched D2. I had a bad game D1 and you guys used it to your advantage.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
I don't know what I could have done to fight off the mislynch there.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Sorry I made you mad.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
Oh and it's funny that Karn did the whole "false vig claim!" when they were both on the same team
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Stop_Bussing!
I was a dick to generic too, so I'd also like to apologize for that.
Anyway, GG all. I learned some things here that I hope to be able to implement in future games.
The problem is, if you aren't confident enough, other people won't listen to you.
Sometimes you need to be kind of a dick to the one you're pushing (or the one you are being pushed by) in order to get others to listen to you. If you have much bravado, more people tend to listen.
In all of my scum games I have super-bussed my teammates for the most part. I was afraid someone would know my meta and I'd be caught later in the game.
I won't be going out of my way to bus for a while.
#WIFOM
Seriously though, it amazes me how people think explaining views or responding politely to a scum read (fade thought this was a scum tell) is seen as scummy. There's a difference between waffling and acknowledging fallibility, though it might be too subtle for mafia.
Club Flamingo Wins: 1!
You were pretty obviously scum to me around the Day we lynched Seppel, but Seppel flipping town threw a damper on my reads. The fact that you hadn't claimed up to endgame was a pretty solid point against you, IMO, and the fact that you were The Count was what put me back on to you - though I doubt anyone would have bought that argument. Either way, I couldn't climb out of the hole I was in without pushing a No Lynch and that would've still had dubious results at best, I'm sure.
Not thrilled with fade throwing the game after I asked him to consider my angle. Since when is asking someone to play the game thoroughly scummy?
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Also, from the multiple times I've seen the tell noted (and noted it myself) it is definitely not exclusive to pushing your buddy. It's complaining about missing any part of the game where you think you could have gotten town credit - such as Cantrip complaining about missing RVS this game.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
iunno what he was planning on rvsing
Edit: Complaining about overall pace of the game (how quickly it's moving, and not being able to make points when you wanted to) has been noted as well. That one has been fairly accurate as a scum tell, as far as those things go.
I proved how this situation was NOTHING like Smalltown in my following posts. (Mainly here.)
If you still don't get it, you still won't get it, but we don't need to get into that again.
It was one of the reasons I never did clear Generic, as I was having a hard time seeing past that moment as a pro-town move.
That said I would appreciate some criticism of my play from anyone as I know I made my share of blunders in the game.
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
Spider-Man Mafia 3 (Off-Site: NGA)
Metroid Mafia (Off-Site: Mafia Universe)
I would recommend improving your analysis skills and spending more time on improving the quality of your posts.
Could you point out specific (pun not intended) areas in this game where I could comment on? We can take this to PM if you wish.
Also read these:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/9igHn8i8ua4n
http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/B87eYZPTH2z
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/GTZDhnh2yH46t
Let's not escalate this.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
FTR, I would have made the same post as town. Not for some townie cred I might've garnered, but because I hate missing RVS. Although the RVS's recently haven't been as amusing as the RVS's of my youth...
Congrats to Karn, who wasn't afraid to bus the only scum power role, and bus me into the ground. I think that may have been an unconscious factor in people's perception of whether what you were doing was bussing.
Sorry for my bad plays this game. I wasn't really in it for some reason, although the flavor was top notch.
Thanks to Tom for running a great and entertaining (from a post-death enjoyment perspective) game.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
You being the last scum makes me happy.
Basic 82: Hayate the Combat Butler Mafia
Town Doctor, NK N1
Mini: Drury Lane Mafia
Replaced out D1
Mafia "Stuffer"
Basic 80: Sesame Street Mafia
Town Mason, NK N1
Scum Victory
Basic 68: Mr. Potato Head Mafia
Replacing Marblez D2
Town Vanilla, Lynched Last Day (D6)
Scum Victory
Mini: Eeveelution Mafia
Town Umbreon, Modkilled D1
Scum Victory
Mini: Deitriptychos Mafia
Town Necromancer, NK N1
Town Victory
Don't do anything else.
I'm not sure if this is a good thing or not, but the smiley face makes me think it is.