2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I'm baffled that it's apparently permissible to fakeclaim and fakevig in the name of RVS here. v.v
Well, my fakeclaim is absurdly obviously fake. There is no way to misconstrue that for a real claim.
Besides, what's wrong with it? It's all clearly fake, so what difference does it make?
Hmm, taking a moment to look at Redux 2 Tare and Disney Villains Tare to have a point of reference. I know exactly why his first post made me think he was scum, but let's see if I see that in his town game or scum game.
Tare uses a lot more excited language as scum, as well as structures his sentences to make it seem like he's putting more thought into what he's doing. TownTare is a lot calmer. Let's see if that's present in Drury Lane.
Exclamation mark in his first post is a bad sign for Tare.
But wait, there's more! Shockwave "has no real reason" for voting Tavanio, but "that may change"? In what world does this make sense from a town mindset? That SCREAMS scum who is trying to decide whether or not he can get away with attacking Tavanio.
While completely unnecessary, I don't think that reminding people he might change his mind comes from a scum mindset. Right now, he's saying he has a town, or at least neutral read on me. That means that if he starts to attack me, he won't be able to say that he always had a slightly scummy read on me, and will have to point to what changed between this post and the last. As scum, he wouldn't want to remind everyone that his read on me might change, he would want to be able to start attacking me without ever having said anything about me.
Coaching in plain sight?
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Not a huge fan of Tavanio's early gung-ho defense of Shockwave. On the other hand, Tare is lurking at this point.
Taking a midterm now. Could we not lynch me until we get a votecount, at the very least? I need to know whether or not I should claim.
I don't know what to make of this post. On one hand, "Can we not lynch me until" sounds like a scum thing to say, but the last sentence sounds confident and townie.
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Iso -(2)- PopeRonPaul; Kazekirimaru
Kazekirimaru -(2)- Tavanio; Kosakosa
Tavanio -(5)- Rhand; AtheistGod; Tanarin; dkingsland967; Shockwave07
Shockwave07 -(2)- Taredas; Iso
Seeing as how I'm at L-2, I'll go ahead and claim. This looks bad because I'm not technically muffin-related, but I'm a funnel cake fellow. I'm a tracker/watcher, so I can choose one of those to do each night. Do you want me to include how many muffins I have and need to use my ability?
This may be a townslip.
"This looks bad because I'm not technically muffin-related"
Wouldn't scumTavanio know that all of his buddies also weren't muffins?
I'm not sure since I stopped reading once I got MK'd, but I believe something similar was also suggested in Eeveelution (and followed), ending with info advantage to the mafia.
I am against claiming.
The only reason I could see a massclaim being helpful would be if there's somebody low on muffins that could actually die from starvation very soon, but then those players should claim regardless when it gets near their "starvation point." This way, if there is some sort "muffin baker" role that can give away muffins, they can save them. I'm concerned about the scum team having some sort of "muffin thief" role that can steal muffins, and roleblock/starve someone that way, so I'm opposed to a mass claim. I don't see how this information could be used to catch scum, if there is anything incriminating about muffin levels, the scum would simply lie about it.
This is also a pretty decent post.
Dislike his subtle smearing on Shockwave's claim, though.
We NEED to do the muffin/cost claim so I can determine whether or not Shockwave's claim is a scum claim. Otherwise, after a bit of consideration, I can only presume that we need to be lynching him. Anybody against this plan is being anti-town.
How would his claim make sense as a scum claim? That ability would just reduce the cost of one of their abilities by 1 each night, it would make more sense to either give them extra muffins or make their costs increase as scum die than to have a role whose only purpose is to reduce their ability costs. As a scum role, it slightly decreases the cost, which is unlikely to impact the game a whole lot or cause interesting decision making processes.
UHHM SCUM LOSE MUFFINS WHEN TOWN IS LYNCHED, TOO, BRO
OP SAYS SO
Yes they do. So? That doesn't make his role any more interesting as a scum role.
what
Oh, I was doing some more searching for meta language analysis and I came across this gem:
Two muffins left, because to the surprise of absolutely nobody I -1'ed last night... copying sephiroth onto Iso (because he was one of the most likely kill targets, and if I copied a track I could clear Iso barring him killing his claimed muffin target or nokilling and muffin gifting [because if Iso is scum then the scum have a factional roleblock or factional muffin gift that can be used in conjunction with another ability, as proven by N2], and if I copied a roleblock then presumably Iso would be notified even if players who are roleblocked when they don't use abilities aren't told about it [one of the few reasonable explanations for the lack of a N1 roleblock] thus double-confirming that the copied roleblock existed and thus locking the game down to a PoE state with Tanarin cleared). Considered copying onto Kaze instead, but that would definitely do nothing if seph was telling the truth and tracked and might not do anything if I copied a roleblock (see above).
And did, in fact, draw a watch (nobody targeted Iso last night), so Seph's not lying about having that ability. (If he'd said he tracked Iso, then we'd have a problem!)
If Tare is scum, I'm guessing he forgot about this and that this is a blatant lie. Occam's says Tare's just a Roleblocker.
Let's see if this pops up in Tare's case on seph:
Yeah, Tare mentions that seph's targets are lackluster, throwing scrutiny on them - as though to imply he didn't go through with his claimed actions.
Aw, he actually mentioned that he confirmed seph's ability later in that post. That's disappointing - but Tare's ability makes sense as a Rolecop-type with AG being town. Additionally, I can't discern a reason for the scum to have a Tracker/Watcher in this setup.
Ugh, but Tare raises a really good point about seph's T/S list.
Gonna keep reading, in that case.
Hey seph, when you came into the game, you said you couldn't get a read on my alignment - but now you're saying I've read consistently town?
Ooh. Scum JoAT kind of makes sense here.
Let's see...Tare's muffin claim started at 5.
I gave him a muffin on Night 1. We've lynched 2 scum.
So Tare is at +3 and then -5. So he's at 3 muffins.
I raise a good point about Tavanio/seph's ability in my Day 1 overhaul post.
As for the trichotomy. The roles they've claimed, ie one that prevents use of muffin, one that gives muffin, and one that bakes extra muffins, in a game like this, it just seems likely that the Town would have multiple ways to ensure survival, and they're just different enough to make me see that maybe we shouldn't be lynching them yet. I could be wrong, and of the three dkings does indeed seem the most questionable to me, but it just seems too easy to assume that one of them is scum. As I said, I've only done a cursory read so far, and I was focused on reading Rhand. I'll read again in the next couple of days and focus on dkings.
You know what, maybe we *should* reconsider lynching dkings today. Maybe we should lynch you instead. Because you're scum regardless of dking's alignment.
I mean, come on. You're taking a stand against the dkings wagon (while leaving yourself a nice escape hatch for if you need to hop on) while suggesting that we leave the trichotomy alone. That screams scum motivation regardless of dking's alignment: if he's scum, you're trying to protect a buddy while keeping the option of bussing if necessary; if he's town, you're going after towncred while protecting your partner in the trichotomy (presumably Shockwave, I don't see you pulling this if Iso is your buddy) from getting PoE'd out.
Thanks for claiming scum, we'll deal with you tomorrow. I'd do it today, but, well, dkings exists.
MFoS: PRP (would HoS except that I need my HoS for a dkings pseudovote)
Yeah... that's not a counterclaim. Between this, your instant refusal of my joking nameclaim proposal, and your immediate vote on me out of RVS, I'm beginning to think Kosa is right about you.
Wait just one moment. Iso counterclaims you with no explanation of what his role actually does... and your reaction is that you're "beginning to think" Kosa is right and Iso is scum? Explain how this is supposed to make sense from a town mindset, please, because I'm not seeing it... and it makes PERFECT sense if you're confrontation-averse scum.
If you're town and you're voting Shockwave for "counterclaiming" you, why aren't you voting me now?
Nice try.
Shockwave threw his claim out completely unprovoked, shortly after Tavanio claimed and everyone backed down from him. Easily could be piggybacking claims hoping to get out of the limelight. I counterclaimed him, not the other way around.
As for muffin count, I have 5 muffins and my ability costs 1 muffin to activate.
And don't try to use this as your answer, because it's not answering the question. Your Shockwave counterclaim is fine. Your reaction to Iso's counterclaim is scummy as all hell.
HoS: dkings (pseudovote, will upgrade to full vote once muffin claim is done)
I'm a bit suspicious of Taredas, because while he is making cases and posting stuff, he is displaying the "busy questions" tell a bit, though significantly less than Prophy in Presidential Mafia. I'll keep an eye on him.
This looks like something that scum would say about their buddy. On the other hand...
Quote from PopeRonPaul »
I liked Tavanio's rebuttal to Taredas' case on Shockwave, and also that he was suspicious of Tanarin for jumping on.
So does this.
However, I think that points more to Tare than Tav.
Immediate thoughts after muffin massclaim:
- With this many abilities with high (or in my case potentially high) activation costs, I *really* doubt that all of our muffin granters/virtual granters are town - otherwise they could all funnel points into one of the big roles and give them multiple extra shots. Two muffin granters with some sort of scum punisher seems more likely (outside chance of only one).
- PRP's five muffins/no activation claim looks REALLY fishy from where I'm sitting (he's the only player who can survive to D6 - yes, D6, remember that people only die when they eat a muffin they don't have - without forgoing use of an ability*).
- That AG 5/2 and Tanarin 6/2 bugs me to no end. I think one is scum (especially if Pope is somehow town).
lulz
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Okay, storyteller actually talked to PRP once, and that was about my attempt with Rhand on Day 1 to figure out who was lying about muffins.
Ugh, it frustrates the hell out of me when all the scum are LURKERS. No wonder I didn't have any scum pings until like 45 posts into the game. This is also what happened in Amistarian III with fadeblue and Axelrod.
Took a glance at seph's off-site game; meh. Nothing conclusive.
I like this point@WWE/Fadeblue. Fadeblue is a very experienced player, and it is possible that Tavinio is trying the same tactic, but is less experienced and thus the attempt comes off as clunky. Hmmm.
Seeing as how I'm at L-2, I'll go ahead and claim. This looks bad because I'm not technically muffin-related, but I'm a funnel cake fellow. I'm a tracker/watcher, so I can choose one of those to do each night. Do you want me to include how many muffins I have and need to use my ability?
I have 5, and it takes 1 to use my ability. I am only allowed to use it once per night.
Tavinio's claim. I'm super skeptical that watcher and tracker are rolled together on to the same role, but as of where I'm at for the moment, he hasn't been counter-claimed, so I guess that's reasonable?
I don't like the attending "this looks bad" clause, as it shows a degree of self-awareness which shouldn't be necessary if one is claiming town power on D1.
Without a scum flip, if this is accurate, this means that Tav's role is more like a 1-shot Watch + 1-shot Track, who has the versatility to use either shot as an additional shot of the other. That seems much more logical / balanced than just saying "hey guise I'm a tracker + watcher."
Doesn't rule him out from being scum, still -- I've seen both of those roles scum-aligned in the past -- but it's worth mentioning.
Rvs vote... and then unvote... and then some serious dissecting... and then a serious vote.. in one post..What gets me is all the questions he is asking. Why this and why that?
It seems fake to me.
Also you say RVS is over AFTER asking those questions...
(i learned what this was in a recent mafia game and now i get to use it!)
fos Taredas
I'm not saying what he is saying about Shockwave is wrong.... but the way he went about it seems like it was planned. Almost like he saw what shokewave had posted, saw it as scummy, and decided to leap onto it for town cred. Bussing at it's finest methinks.
At this stage of the game town tend not to jump in front of wagons. Reads aren't strong enough yet for that type of behavior. Scum know full well that the person they are defending is town and so will defend that person prematurely. Town may mention a town read on a player or jump to their defense later on in the wagon, but I don't see them jump to defend a player when they rack up 2-3 votes immediately following RVS. Your response was less about pointing out why Taredas' attack was scummy and more about pointing out why Shockwave was town. "Weak" and "scummy" are not necessarily synonymous and all you've said is that the attack was weak; that is a defense of Shockwave, not an attack at Taredas. I agree with you that Shockwave could easily be town, but is status as town or scum doesn't effect whether your defense was town-motivated or not.
I beg to differ. As town!Tav, i believe he is seeing a fellow townie getting a wagon on him too fast. I mean, 2-3 votes with others showing suspicion towards him is a wagon. His defense, as unorthodox as it is, seems genuine.
As scum!Tav, why the hell would he try so hard to defend a scumbuddy who messed up so bad in the first few posts?
It's like they knew that the endgame was going to be between seph/Tare. -_-
sephirotharg (r. Tavanio) -- I did not like Tavanio in general, although I did rather like a few of his posts. Seph hasn't done much yet, but he hasn't been part of the game for long. Leaning scum on this slot.
Taredas -- I'm not sure that I've ever actually played with Taredas, so I'm not sure what to expect. So far his play reminds me of desCoures. Not sure where I'm actually going with that. I haven't seen much to give me a concrete opinion one way or another -- the only thing he's really done so far was his pressuring of the Tavanio/Shockwave pair, which I agreed with.
This leaves me with the following ordering. People within groupings are in no order:
@Ag I don't think you quite got the fact i think shockwave is scum and Tav is town.. and i think tav is thinking shock is town.
"scum protecting town day 1 is pretty common" so anyone who makes a defense for another person d1 is scummy?? Well then call me scum for defending Tav. He reads town to me, end of story. Shockwave reads scum. End of story.
You can criticize my logic all you want, but that's what i see.
I never legitimately read Iso as town. That was a lie to see how he reacted. Unfortunately, he didn't give me any good reads and said something like "come at me bro" which I have no idea what to make of.
So you barned a vote made by someone you didn't read as town with no reason provided?
Eh, fine, whatever. Was hoping to get him to state it outright, but there's no need at this point.
Vote: Rodemy
I Tracked you last Night, and you didn't target anyone. The roleblock is bollocks too because I have confirmation that targeting works independently of your ability succeeding or failing. You're just an opportunistic scum looking to push a mislynch on Kosa.
This post is fine, I guess.
It also makes sense with the Roleblock + Nightkill + no action possible 'til later thing.
First unreliable Internet access (turns out it was an issue with the DSL line), then possible virus issues (as in "both of the other computers connected have needed to get fixed in a 48-hour period, which means either a virus/problematic Windows Update or incredible coincidence and I'm not yet sure which). I swear, it's like my Internet doesn't want me to play Mafia.
Still not sure that the latter issue is fixed, but here's to hope.
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Initial thoughts pending reread:
- Color me EXTREMELY surprised that AG flipped not only Town, but Town Rolecop. Considerably more suspicious of sephiroth given that - I have trouble seeing AG's role, my role, and Sephiroth's role all on town.
- Why is there even a discussion on Rodemy? He's been counterclaimed by multiple players, his response to those counterclaims is classic newb scum flailing, and has that terrible hammer from yesterday too. He's scum, probably trying to squeak out a mislynch before he went down. Thanks for letting us know Kosa is town!
- Oh look, the player whose ability should be easily confirmable claimed to use it on the NK target. Just like fade did in Amistarian and Kosa did in WWE. That + dkings flipping town + me getting a muffin last night + immediately following Rodemy onto Kosa = shockwave is scum. (Which means I called "this post did not come from town" correctly and backed off of it. AGAIN.)
- Why yes, you read the above right: I confirm that I got an additional muffin last night. It's technically possible that Iso is scum with his claimed ability (or another scum has his claimed ability) and scum gave me a muffin last night to maintain credibility, but given that and his behavior I'm 99% sure he's town.
Third scum is either Arian or Sephiroth, with an outside chance of Tanarin (though that would require that Tanarin be ballsy scum who immediately chose to bus his partner after seeing his claim). Most likely it's Arian (he replaced scummyscumscum Pope and proceeded to fencesit Rodemy just like his predecessor did dkings, and I still think that one of the unusually high muffin players is scum)
Really, the only question is whether we lynch Rodemy or Shockwave first.
Vote: Shockwave
HoS: Rodemy (pseudovote)
Mod: Vote Count please
Voting Shockwave for now because I think Rodemy is somewhere near lynch range and I don't want to end the Day prematurely - consider my vote on both.
Taredas feels like he's emulating dC this game -- he wanders in, makes a huge dreadnought, and then wanders out again. That's about par for the course from what I remember of WWE.
But I know what your claimed ability cost is. You don't have another shot based on a truthful claim.
I got an extra muffin last night, remember?
And if we lynch scum today? I'll even walk away from it alive.
Uh, Kaze, stupid question of the day: Shouldn't you only be able to fire if we lynch scum toDay? You claimed that you started with 5 muffins and that your ability costs 3, and you've gained 2 muffins (one from Rodemy's lynch, one from Iso) and eaten 5 (one for D1, one for D2, three to use your ability N3). Given known claims, the only way you could have gotten an extra muffin is for Shockwave to be telling the truth about his ability AND have targeted you last night, which seems somewhat unlikely given that you'd flat-out stated that you were going to vig him.*
Your ability *is* -3, right? You're town either way given Rodemy's flip and Shockwave confirming you vigged him, but if your ability isn't -3 that's relevant information.
You realize I'm paying you a visit tonight if Rhand flips blue, yes?
Just a note: If we lynch town today, then your ability starts working as a permablock rather than a vig. You can only successfully kill after a mislynch and if we mislynch toDay then we're out of mislynches, and my understanding of the rules is that if you hit scum tonight after lynching town today and we lynch town tomorrow then the scum will win before starvation death can take effect.
Corollary: Rodemy's role wasn't a Toughguy unless the scum have some way of reducing his muffin count (*glances at Rhand*), because he can't fire until after multiple mislynches (and really not even then, because Rodemy's role requires THREE mislynches to fire and by that time the game is over.
I have more to say given that, but Arian claim first.
Back, and all caught up. My Night action claim is basically irrelevant at this point, but for the sake of completeness I Watched Iso (thinking that since he's a strong player he might draw an NK) and saw Rhand visit him (presumably Rhand's muffin burn ability).
Rhand is coming across scummier in his posts; more defensive and unwilling to engage with Tanarin's relatively simple question. Not loving Iso's "I forgot my own cost" routine, but I've had a strong town read on him all game from a behavioral standpoint so it's not enough to draw a vote from me. Thus, I'll Vote: Rhand. Between him and Shock we should have this game wrapped up in short order.
Again, when did you develop this alleged town read of me?
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seph, what's your full role name, again?
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Town points to Tare for pushing Arian over Rhand or Shockwave, though that could easily be orchestrated.
Yeah, cool. That means that seph, Shockwave, and Tare are the only people that have a chance of being Arian's scumbuddies.
Maybe I'll do my math after we lynch Arian. Anyone want to pull up that numbers post for me?
I'm not so sure about that.
Rodemy could only fire an activated ability once, and Arian's almost certainly not lying about being bulletproof. If the last scum is Roleblocker, that means scum has at most one member with a repeatable activated ability and absolutely no ability that is both provable and safe to claim, while at least half of the town roles have a confirmable effect when they fire (Kosa's message sender, dking's muffin gift plus at least one of Shockwave's and Iso's abilities, Kaze's vig, potentially my own role depending on who I copy, Rhand's role if he's town). That basically guarantees scum lose via PoE.
I'm starting to wonder if this game is like Hobbit or Majora's Mask, and the scum have a factional roleblock in addition to a factional kill (and possibly usable in the same night as a regular night action, ala the Mafia kill in lategame in Majora's Mask). In that case, one of our "proven" abilities could in fact be scum - presumably either Rhand's (we've got an awful lot of protection against muffin burning for only one scum role that deals with it, especially with the muffin donors factored in) or possibly Iso's (though that would require Iso to be incredibly ballsy scum and doing one of the best jobs of tone control I've ever seen). Alternately, I suppose the muffin burn could be factional and Rhand's actually the roleblocker...
Whatever, we can deal with that possibility later. Arian's still incredibly likely to be scum (that reasoning still doesn't explain why town!Arian would jump straight to the conclusion that there's an SK, and that role is 99% scum - the only way it could be town is if it were a complete downside role, especially with 5 starting muffins), and I still have a hard time seeing Seph's claimed role and mine both be town (and factional kill + factional roleblock + watcher/tracker + "bulletproof" + Rodemy's ability would be reasonably balanced).
Yo seph, why did you choose to Watch Tare last Night?
He's a strong player who didn't contribute much yesterday; ergo, he's easy fodder for an NK. Truth be told I bounced back and forth between watching him and tracking Kaze, who I'm still not sold on, until I remembered that Kaze's ability needed 3 to activate and there's no way he could have gotten that many, so he wasn't likely to go anywhere. Now that I'm thinking about it, though, maybe that's the perfect cover for the NK. Ugh, feel like such a derp right now.
I have 1 muffin currently. Also, the point re Shock, starvation and a more productive lynch is noted. Unvote.
Sorry for the triple post, but I just re-read the rules and it doesn't seem to indicate whether non-muffin actions and muffin actions can be done by the same player on the same night.
@ Karnmod: Do muffin actions take the place of non-muffin actions?
I agree, my play has been subpar. All I can say in my defense is that I'm new to power roles (always seemed to draw vanilla on EM), and I tend to get stuck in my day 1 reads (hence my lingering suspicion about kaze, and why I considered tracking him yesterday).
I like your case on Tanarin - it is awfully scumvenient that he was RBed, and nobody else was. As stated, he and/or I are the two lynches today, so Vote: Tanarin.
meh post is meh
And then Tare hops off the Tanarin wagon.
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I think Rodemy's insistence that Tav/seph is town is possibly the most damning thing I can find from the lurkerscum interactions. But there's also Rodemy accusing Tare of asking questions without purpose.
At any rate, I need to sleep, and I'll look over this again later, as well as your cases on each other. I'd like my questions and points responded to within a reasonable timeframe, please.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
That is almost 4 weeks for this Day (which is a lot more time than most Mods will give you on a 3-man Day...) and is already accounting for time for the Holidays. I will not be extending this deadline. If there is no lynch by then it will be a no-lynch.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I've made my decision based on Rodemy's posts + how he interacted with his buddies in Apocalypse, as well as the fact that he apparently didn't make a connection between Tavanio and sephirotharg at some point.
Vote Taredas
I hate that this game came down to "let's see who can lurk the hardest!" because that's just not a fun state of game and I'm pretty sure everyone just wants to see this game end at this point.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Taredas -(2)- Sephirotharg; Iso
Sephirotharg -(1)- Taredas
That is a lynch!
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"This is it!" the Mayor shouted, approaching the town square.
"Have you all made your decision yet?" he queried.
Sephirotharg and Taredas almost immediately pointed at eachother. Meanwhile, Iso sat on a bench weighing the options.
Then Iso sat some more.
...and a while longer.
Then suddenly Iso yelled "Well what are you guys waiting for!? Do something!"
Everyone was puzzled.
Then Iso continued to sit on the bench and ponder things.
Eventually the Mayor spoke up, "Ehem. We're waiting on you, Iso."
"Just give me a few minutes, won't you?" Iso called back haughtily.
So they all continued to wait.
After what seemed like an eternity, Iso, in one swift movement, hopped off the bench and jumped at Taredas, pummeling him to the ground.
The Mayor and Sephirotharg stood back, shocked that Iso had finally moved.
Iso was choking Taredas to death.
Tears streamed out of the outer corners of Taredas's watery eyes, and stifled coughs and cries flew from his constricted throat.
After a while, the noises became silence, and Taredas's twitching body became still.
"Haha, okay." Iso said calmy while standing up, leaving Taredas's corpse on the wet, cold cement of the sidewalk.
Uneasily and hesitantly, the Mayor stepped toward the body to take a bite, which was incidentally toward Iso as well.
The Mayor kneeled down, then lifted one of Taredas's limp arms towards his mouth and took a bite.
He chewed a bit then looked up. With a shocked face, he opened his mouth and let Taredas fall out.
"You... Ya... You did it!" the Mayor stuttered then shouted.
"Taredas was sour! Drury Lane is saved!"
Sephirotharg, Iso, and the Mayor looked at each other and cheesed.
"We did it!"
You are Yogurt Youngster, Mafia “Freezer”
BRAIN FREEZE!
You start the game with 5 Muffins.
Abilities:
You may vote.
1 Muffin: You may activate this ability once per Night. You may roleblock another target player. That player's Muffin cost for any ability he or she used will still be consumed.
You may talk to your Mafia friends pregame and at Night.
Once per Night, you or one of the other Mafia members may perform a Nightkill.
My thoughts on the game are scattered in the Spectator Chat.
Thanks everyone for playing! This was my first game hosting and I consider it quite a success! I know it was a risk going with a unique mechanic for my first game but I'm very happy with how it worked out, and I'm definitely planning on making another game with this resource (the Muffins) mechanic in the future.
Thanks for the game, Karn! I had planned to break the setup early but after derping on my math like 3 times I was not keen on trying again. Looking forward to reading the spec/scum chats.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
My guess would be the strongest town player in endgame (Iso) and the only scum to make it into endgame (Taredas) as MVPs. Interested in others thoughts.
I don't think anyone really deserves MVP in this game for either team. Tare lurked and led Rodemy to crash and burn, Arian derped, Rodemy killed himself, Kosa and AG got killed before they could be effective, Shockwave and dking made themselves lynchbait, seph lurked, Kaze burned Shockwave and then got killed, Tan self-voted despite probably displaying the strongest play up to that point in the game, Rhand burned half of my muffins, and I got hit with apathy before I broke the setup so I sort of durdled around and gave Tare a bunch of muffins until endgame.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I don't want to give an MVP to the Mafia because I don't think any of their play was really exceptional. While Tare lived the longest, he was the one that convinced Rodemy to unnecessarily gambit (and consequently got Rodemy lynched), as well as bussed Arian when (I think) they could have had a pretty easy mislynch that Day instead and Taredas wouldn't have looked bad afterward.
I was leaning toward Tanarin for town MVP if only for keeping his head on straight. AtheistGod played well but died too early to have really affected the game enough to be awarded MVP. Iso had plenty of both good and bad moments in this game, but he eventually pulled it out.
I don't really feel that pulled to one person or another. If someone sways me I'd be happy to award one, but as of now... idunno.
Well, I wouldn't hold it against Kaze for, in your words Iso, vigging lynchbait.
But yes, there was a lot of bad plays. I still wonder why Rhand didn't burn someone's last muffin before his NK?
And Tanarin!!! I voted you because I thought you were hinting that you were running out of muffins! Why did you self vote!?
I felt that I was going to be a distraction to winning the game if I stayed alive. The fact no one believed there was an active role block would have proven dangerous come LYLO.
Also note N1 sephiroth WAS blocked but was never given any indication he was blocked. This game would have been DRASTICALLY different had said block been revealed as it should have (Sephiroth did action that night.) Also, can we get the N1 results PM for sephiroth posted? I just wanted to see if he got the indication I thought he would have on my ability.
Edit: Basically, had sephiroth been told of his RB, he would have been confirmed on D3 (Due to myself being blocked as well.) That would have left a Day three with myself, sephiroth and Kaze all confirmed. shockwave was burned out. That would have left a Arianhod, Iso, Rhand and Taredas to PoE out. Arianhod most likely would have been lynched anyway due to his claim. That would have left us with the much more manageable Tare autolynch Day 4.
Also N2 and D3 would not have changed as Kosa was the only kill that was possible for the scum to make. If they did not, they would most likely have been left with Kosa, Sephiroth and kaze confirmed, which would have been a worse scenario for scum IMO.
So... You didn't trust that a claimed vig, who couldn't be my scum buddy burned all my muffins and decided you had to do overkill because I what? Had to be a 1-shot burnproof after a permenent burnproof died? Or Iso reversed his position on me and gave me a muffin?
The only way I survived the Day before was because of a scum lynch.
This ain't big enough. Nor is this :banghead:.
Gah!
(Note: also not Generic or mDebham, which is kind of ironic considering recent events...)
I figured that if Iso was your scumbuddy or another scum was lying about his ability and could grant you one, you would receive a muffin and not starve.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Iso, why did you you have a scumread on me? You were the only town to have a scumread on me and I was curious why. I even tried to crumb to you that I was the primary investigative role.
Don't remember. Probably because your muffin count with storyteller and PRP's seems probable for a scumteam to me. I don't remember what you did behaviorally to make me think that but I might be able to look it over.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Note to self while scavenging: Look for Rodemy/storyteller and Arian/PRP interactions with Tare/Tav/seph
Hmm, taking a moment to look at Redux 2 Tare and Disney Villains Tare to have a point of reference. I know exactly why his first post made me think he was scum, but let's see if I see that in his town game or scum game.
Tare uses a lot more excited language as scum, as well as structures his sentences to make it seem like he's putting more thought into what he's doing. TownTare is a lot calmer. Let's see if that's present in Drury Lane.
Exclamation mark in his first post is a bad sign for Tare.
I now find this post very funny as I now know that only 1 scum had posted at the time I made this post.
This is an interesting post.
Let's see if storyteller interacts with PRP at all, or he only talks with/to/about townies.
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Not a huge fan of Tavanio's early gung-ho defense of Shockwave. On the other hand, Tare is lurking at this point.
I don't know what to make of this post. On one hand, "Can we not lynch me until" sounds like a scum thing to say, but the last sentence sounds confident and townie.
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Iso -(2)- PopeRonPaul; Kazekirimaru
Kazekirimaru -(2)- Tavanio; Kosakosa
Tavanio -(5)- Rhand; AtheistGod; Tanarin; dkingsland967; Shockwave07
Shockwave07 -(2)- Taredas; Iso
Hmm.
This may be a townslip.
"This looks bad because I'm not technically muffin-related"
Wouldn't scumTavanio know that all of his buddies also weren't muffins?
No comment on Tav's claim.
This is also a pretty decent post.
Dislike his subtle smearing on Shockwave's claim, though.
what
Oh, I was doing some more searching for meta language analysis and I came across this gem:
If Tare is scum, I'm guessing he forgot about this and that this is a blatant lie. Occam's says Tare's just a Roleblocker.
Let's see if this pops up in Tare's case on seph:
Yeah, Tare mentions that seph's targets are lackluster, throwing scrutiny on them - as though to imply he didn't go through with his claimed actions.
Aw, he actually mentioned that he confirmed seph's ability later in that post. That's disappointing - but Tare's ability makes sense as a Rolecop-type with AG being town. Additionally, I can't discern a reason for the scum to have a Tracker/Watcher in this setup.
Ugh, but Tare raises a really good point about seph's T/S list.
Gonna keep reading, in that case.
Hey seph, when you came into the game, you said you couldn't get a read on my alignment - but now you're saying I've read consistently town?
Ooh. Scum JoAT kind of makes sense here.
Let's see...Tare's muffin claim started at 5.
I gave him a muffin on Night 1. We've lynched 2 scum.
So Tare is at +3 and then -5. So he's at 3 muffins.
I raise a good point about Tavanio/seph's ability in my Day 1 overhaul post.
"lol"
This looks like something that scum would say about their buddy. On the other hand...
So does this.
However, I think that points more to Tare than Tav.
lulz
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Okay, storyteller actually talked to PRP once, and that was about my attempt with Rhand on Day 1 to figure out who was lying about muffins.
Ugh, it frustrates the hell out of me when all the scum are LURKERS. No wonder I didn't have any scum pings until like 45 posts into the game. This is also what happened in Amistarian III with fadeblue and Axelrod.
Took a glance at seph's off-site game; meh. Nothing conclusive.
Can you cite what experience you're referring to here, seph?
Hmm.
Kazekirimaru -(1)- sephirotharg
Tavanio -(1)- AtheistGod
Shockwave07 -(3)- dkingsland967; Kosakosa; Rhand
dkingsland967 -(7)- Iso; Kazekirimaru; Tanarin; Taredas; Shockwave07; Arianrhod; Rodemy
I have to ask: Would all 3 scum be on the Day 1 mislynch wagon?
...with Tare, I could see it.
That would also explain why Tanarin, an MS player, was RBed over the information role.
HMM.
It's like they knew that the endgame was going to be between seph/Tare. -_-
This post is fine, I guess.
It also makes sense with the Roleblock + Nightkill + no action possible 'til later thing.
Kazekirimaru, Town Fat Kid
.
Bad vibes from this post.
"lol"
Again, when did you develop this alleged town read of me?
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seph, what's your full role name, again?
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Town points to Tare for pushing Arian over Rhand or Shockwave, though that could easily be orchestrated.
bleh
This is a really horrible post.
Yeah, this does kind of look like a slip.
Ugh. And then Tare started the Tanarin wagon.
meh post is meh
And then Tare hops off the Tanarin wagon.
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I think Rodemy's insistence that Tav/seph is town is possibly the most damning thing I can find from the lurkerscum interactions. But there's also Rodemy accusing Tare of asking questions without purpose.
At any rate, I need to sleep, and I'll look over this again later, as well as your cases on each other. I'd like my questions and points responded to within a reasonable timeframe, please.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
That is almost 4 weeks for this Day (which is a lot more time than most Mods will give you on a 3-man Day...) and is already accounting for time for the Holidays. I will not be extending this deadline. If there is no lynch by then it will be a no-lynch.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
V/LA until the 24th.
It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
I hope those were accidentally capitalized.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Vote Taredas
I hate that this game came down to "let's see who can lurk the hardest!" because that's just not a fun state of game and I'm pretty sure everyone just wants to see this game end at this point.
Hopefully I just won this for us.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Are you serious?! I had you pegged as scum and you were?!
Answers needed...
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Taredas -(2)- Sephirotharg; Iso
Sephirotharg -(1)- Taredas
That is a lynch!
_______________________________
"This is it!" the Mayor shouted, approaching the town square.
"Have you all made your decision yet?" he queried.
Sephirotharg and Taredas almost immediately pointed at eachother. Meanwhile, Iso sat on a bench weighing the options.
Then Iso sat some more.
...and a while longer.
Then suddenly Iso yelled "Well what are you guys waiting for!? Do something!"
Everyone was puzzled.
Then Iso continued to sit on the bench and ponder things.
Eventually the Mayor spoke up, "Ehem. We're waiting on you, Iso."
"Just give me a few minutes, won't you?" Iso called back haughtily.
So they all continued to wait.
After what seemed like an eternity, Iso, in one swift movement, hopped off the bench and jumped at Taredas, pummeling him to the ground.
The Mayor and Sephirotharg stood back, shocked that Iso had finally moved.
Iso was choking Taredas to death.
Tears streamed out of the outer corners of Taredas's watery eyes, and stifled coughs and cries flew from his constricted throat.
After a while, the noises became silence, and Taredas's twitching body became still.
"Haha, okay." Iso said calmy while standing up, leaving Taredas's corpse on the wet, cold cement of the sidewalk.
Uneasily and hesitantly, the Mayor stepped toward the body to take a bite, which was incidentally toward Iso as well.
The Mayor kneeled down, then lifted one of Taredas's limp arms towards his mouth and took a bite.
He chewed a bit then looked up. With a shocked face, he opened his mouth and let Taredas fall out.
"You... Ya... You did it!" the Mayor stuttered then shouted.
"Taredas was sour! Drury Lane is saved!"
Sephirotharg, Iso, and the Mayor looked at each other and cheesed.
"We did it!"
BRAIN FREEZE!
You start the game with 5 Muffins.
Abilities:
You may vote.
1 Muffin: You may activate this ability once per Night. You may roleblock another target player. That player's Muffin cost for any ability he or she used will still be consumed.
You may talk to your Mafia friends pregame and at Night.
Once per Night, you or one of the other Mafia members may perform a Nightkill.
Drury Lane Mafia is over! The Town Wins!
It was fun to watch this game.
Mafia Chat
My thoughts on the game are scattered in the Spectator Chat.
Thanks everyone for playing! This was my first game hosting and I consider it quite a success! I know it was a risk going with a unique mechanic for my first game but I'm very happy with how it worked out, and I'm definitely planning on making another game with this resource (the Muffins) mechanic in the future.
Thanks for the game, Karn! I had planned to break the setup early but after derping on my math like 3 times I was not keen on trying again. Looking forward to reading the spec/scum chats.
GG, all.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
GG all!
It was fun watching this game swing back and forth from being in scum's favor to town's favor and back again.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I am voting for you first in the next game we're in for that trollish pre-confirmation false scum win post Iso!
Hmmm.. Seems I didn't contribute much to this win...
Thoughts on my play post game? And what did AG mean my post 568 would help me as town?
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
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Who are teh mvps?
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Eh, I would say give it to Tan, if anyone.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
But yes, there was a lot of bad plays. I still wonder why Rhand didn't burn someone's last muffin before his NK?
And Tanarin!!! I voted you because I thought you were hinting that you were running out of muffins! Why did you self vote!?
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I don't want to give an MVP to the Mafia because I don't think any of their play was really exceptional. While Tare lived the longest, he was the one that convinced Rodemy to unnecessarily gambit (and consequently got Rodemy lynched), as well as bussed Arian when (I think) they could have had a pretty easy mislynch that Day instead and Taredas wouldn't have looked bad afterward.
I was leaning toward Tanarin for town MVP if only for keeping his head on straight. AtheistGod played well but died too early to have really affected the game enough to be awarded MVP. Iso had plenty of both good and bad moments in this game, but he eventually pulled it out.
I don't really feel that pulled to one person or another. If someone sways me I'd be happy to award one, but as of now... idunno.
I felt that I was going to be a distraction to winning the game if I stayed alive. The fact no one believed there was an active role block would have proven dangerous come LYLO.
Also note N1 sephiroth WAS blocked but was never given any indication he was blocked. This game would have been DRASTICALLY different had said block been revealed as it should have (Sephiroth did action that night.) Also, can we get the N1 results PM for sephiroth posted? I just wanted to see if he got the indication I thought he would have on my ability.
Edit: Basically, had sephiroth been told of his RB, he would have been confirmed on D3 (Due to myself being blocked as well.) That would have left a Day three with myself, sephiroth and Kaze all confirmed. shockwave was burned out. That would have left a Arianhod, Iso, Rhand and Taredas to PoE out. Arianhod most likely would have been lynched anyway due to his claim. That would have left us with the much more manageable Tare autolynch Day 4.
Also N2 and D3 would not have changed as Kosa was the only kill that was possible for the scum to make. If they did not, they would most likely have been left with Kosa, Sephiroth and kaze confirmed, which would have been a worse scenario for scum IMO.
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I did use my ability the last night: on you. I wanted to make sure that you would starve.
So... You didn't trust that a claimed vig, who couldn't be my scum buddy burned all my muffins and decided you had to do overkill because I what? Had to be a 1-shot burnproof after a permenent burnproof died? Or Iso reversed his position on me and gave me a muffin?
The only way I survived the Day before was because of a scum lynch.
This ain't big enough. Nor is this :banghead:.
Gah!
(Note: also not Generic or mDebham, which is kind of ironic considering recent events...)
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
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It was better to target you than no one.
Read as: It was better to target you than scum.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The silly trichotomy that wasn't a trichotomy reaaly screwed up my scumreads.
I thought i was hitting scum
At least I was right about the information role. :3
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Thanks to Heroes of the Plane Studios for the sigpic.
Spider-Man Mafia 3 (Off-Site: NGA)
Metroid Mafia (Off-Site: Mafia Universe)
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player