Oh, while I'm here, Aryan Rod, do you believe Karn to be scum at this point?
I believe there to be a chance of it, and I would like more pressure on him. My read on him isn't firm enough to be like OMG CRUSADE, but I'm fine with shaking the tree and seeing what falls out.
I think Meg is probably town. I find myself agreeing with Iso, but that's come back to bite me in past games, so I'm a bit more guarded in my opinion of him for the time being.
Despite passing my road test (woo) I still have a pit in my stomach whenever I read Iso's posts. I guess I was just meant to die early.
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For my reaction on Karn... I feel like I'm walking on eggshells here - my only mafia experience with him is in an ongoing game, to which speaking about it is strictly forbidden. Therefore I cannot possibly justify anything I want to say about Karn.
But I will say that I think Karn is town; I feel like I'm seeing the same thing all over again with him.
I'm afraid that's all I got until the game is finished.
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Megs, I feel like your play on Rick Santorum in FHF was a lot different than I'm seeing now. Maybe I should gloss it over again to double-check, but I feel like I'm starting over with you. I think you're town so far though.
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Iso is either snatching low-hanging fruit (me, Karn) therefore scummy, or too distracted by his 'guess scum team on Day 1' to try and care otherwise therefore really, really obnoxious town. I think my read is going to depend on a flip or two but he seems really suspicious regardless.
Despite passing my road test (woo) I still have a pit in my stomach whenever I read Iso's posts. I guess I was just meant to die early.
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For my reaction on Karn... I feel like I'm walking on eggshells here - my only mafia experience with him is in an ongoing game, to which speaking about it is strictly forbidden. Therefore I cannot possibly justify anything I want to say about Karn.
But I will say that I think Karn is town; I feel like I'm seeing the same thing all over again with him.
I'm afraid that's all I got until the game is finished.
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Megs, I feel like your play on Rick Santorum in FHF was a lot different than I'm seeing now. Maybe I should gloss it over again to double-check, but I feel like I'm starting over with you. I think you're town so far though.
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Iso is either snatching low-hanging fruit (me, Karn) therefore scummy, or too distracted by his 'guess scum team on Day 1' to try and care otherwise therefore really, really obnoxious town. I think my read is going to depend on a flip or two but he seems really suspicious regardless.
Congrats on passing your test!
Also, Iso poked at me as well -- I don't think that it's so much low-hanging fruit, as that he's trying to see what reactions he can get out of people. Seems like pretty typically Iso so far -- mercurial as all hell.
...I still have a pit in my stomach whenever I read Iso's posts. I guess I was just meant to die early.
Can you substantiate exactly what it is that you dislike about my posts or is this just OMGUS?
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Megs, I feel like your play on Rick Santorum in FHF was a lot different than I'm seeing now. Maybe I should gloss it over again to double-check, but I feel like I'm starting over with you. I think you're town so far though.
Making a mental note of this for later.
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Iso is either snatching low-hanging fruit (me, Karn) therefore scummy, or too distracted by his 'guess scum team on Day 1' to try and care otherwise therefore really, really obnoxious town. I think my read is going to depend on a flip or two but he seems really suspicious regardless.
So your worldview is that because you think you and Karn are town, I'm scum? How does that work, exactly? What flips will help you determine my alignment and why? And again, what posts of mine exactly do you dislike?
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Oh, while I'm here, Aryan Rod, do you believe Karn to be scum at this point?
I believe there to be a chance of it, and I would like more pressure on him. My read on him isn't firm enough to be like OMG CRUSADE, but I'm fine with shaking the tree and seeing what falls out.
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...I still have a pit in my stomach whenever I read Iso's posts. I guess I was just meant to die early.
Can you substantiate exactly what it is that you dislike about my posts or is this just OMGUS?
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Megs, I feel like your play on Rick Santorum in FHF was a lot different than I'm seeing now. Maybe I should gloss it over again to double-check, but I feel like I'm starting over with you. I think you're town so far though.
Making a mental note of this for later.
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Iso is either snatching low-hanging fruit (me, Karn) therefore scummy, or too distracted by his 'guess scum team on Day 1' to try and care otherwise therefore really, really obnoxious town. I think my read is going to depend on a flip or two but he seems really suspicious regardless.
So your worldview is that because you think you and Karn are town, I'm scum? How does that work, exactly? What flips will help you determine my alignment and why? And again, what posts of mine exactly do you dislike?
1: I don't dislike your posts or think OMGUS, they just give me chills. Non-game related kinda, hence them being above the first set of dashes with the road test comment.
2:I weighed my options and said that I don't quite have enough info to make a heartfelt decision, however I am still suspicious of you regardless. The three you initially pegged as scum all flipping would shed insight on your alignment. It's not that I dislike your posts, I just can't help but raise an eyebrow, but I can't justify anything about Sir Karn.
In the interest of moving the game forward and because of the ironic humor that he got into this situation because of discussing claiming... Vote Karn Claim plox.
@JK: If Karn flips town, then we probably want to lynch Iso or Megiddo next... If Karn flips scum though, it looks bad for you...
1: I don't dislike your posts or think OMGUS, they just give me chills. Non-game related kinda, hence them being above the first set of dashes with the road test comment.
Any reason why?
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2:I weighed my options and said that I don't quite have enough info to make a heartfelt decision, however I am still suspicious of you regardless. The three you initially pegged as scum all flipping would shed insight on your alignment. It's not that I dislike your posts, I just can't help but raise an eyebrow, but I can't justify anything about Sir Karn.
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Well, you and Meg have been gunning at Karn, so I figured one of you is probably going to flip scum if Karn flips town. However, if he truly is scum, then you two would appear to be more townie for having hunted him so well. Or you could always lynch my town butt first and have nothing to talk about? Of course after the game is over, I will return and laugh at whoever lynched me. I was going to do that for Unseen University... I actually don't remember if I went back to Unseen University because it was so bad... But yeah... I feel so meh about this game right now, that I want to push it forward and make something happen, but without actually working for it? Yeah my brain hurts from trying to figure out who scum and who town and I should probably replace, but we'll see what happens after Karn claims... [/rant]
Oh, while I'm here, Aryan Rod, do you believe Karn to be scum at this point?
I believe there to be a chance of it, and I would like more pressure on him. My read on him isn't firm enough to be like OMG CRUSADE, but I'm fine with shaking the tree and seeing what falls out.
So why aren't you pressuring him?
What do you see to pressure him on further, that I'm failing at? My vote is on him, and his last posts were already addressed by Voxx. We're only 11 pages in, here, and ~4 ish were RVS. That isn't exactly a lot of material to work with. I've made my complaints clear, I believe.
In the interest of moving the game forward and because of the ironic humor that he got into this situation because of discussing claiming... Vote Karn Claim plox.
@JK: If Karn flips town, then we probably want to lynch Iso or Megiddo next... If Karn flips scum though, it looks bad for you...
This is atrocious. Now I'm torn between not liking Karn, and also not liking you.
PPE: So, you admit to wanting to just coast along? I hear you on the whole "nothing is happening" bit, but if you think that Karn is town, there's a whole game full of other people that you could case. Not sure if lazy or scum...or both =/
1. King of the Hill Mafia - Town. Result: Game abandoned. No one wins.
2. How to Train Your Dragon - Town. Result: Town wins.
3. Unseen University - Town. Result: Mafia wins. Because Iso was scum...
4. Steins; Gate - Town. Result: Mafia wins. Because I lynched Iso when I shouldn't have.
5. Giant Robot Battle Royale - Scum. Result: Town wins. Because Iso didn't give me a gundam.
@Arian: Uhm, anything? I have no idea why you're voting Karn at this point. That's how underwhelming your push on him has been - I don't even remember it.
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Saying "I'm town" isn't going to change your opinion of me. I want to know your thought process / reasoning.
It's not about my opinion. The strongest argument you could make is to say you have empirical evidence to the effect that I'm wrong, i.e. you're a townie. That's the first thing a townie would say. Asking "What is your reasoning behind this?" is a dodge. Why do you care what my reasoning is if I'm wrong? That's like checking the citations on a treatise on UFO abductions.
My strongest argument is to just say "I'm town"? ****, this Mafia thing is much easier than I thought it was.
Xyre, you never got back to this topic.
Are you saying that if I would have just said "I'm town. You're wrong." you would have dropped the subject and unvoted me? That's what it sounds like you're trying to say, and that's awful play if you really believe that.
Well your argument for voting him was meta but you already retracted that argument.
So you've got a vote out for no reason.
Yep. Arian has no reason for voting me right now.
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Zionite looks super townie.
Voxx seems townie.
Not a lot from ER, but what he has posted looks good.
Gut says JeY is town. There's nothing malicious coming from her.
Ghosting is annoying with not giving reads. I don't see the reason for acting like this. Not exactly scummy though.
Xyre is being super lazy and pushing at things that don't mean anything. I'm not sure what this means about him - I don't know his meta at all.
Meg still has me uneasy, but is getting a little better. Definitely worth keeping on the radar.
Pikachu literally said he just wants to push the game forward without working for it. It's super scummy, but it's like, so scummy that I don't think scum could post it - if you know what I mean? Maybe it's just stupid instead of scummy.
Iso is either extremely obnoxious and bad town this game, or scum.
Arian is doing nothing and voting with literally no basis. Looking scummy.
AtheistGod is super lurking. I've heard from others that's what he does as scum. He's only made 2 posts: 1 in RVS - the other was asking me questions that he never followed up on.
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AtheistGod really needs to post more.
I feel like this is a good idea: unvote.
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To elaborate more on Arian: He's just lazily trying to hop onto the biggest wagon to try and get through the Day without much effort. Hence why he can't even explain why his vote is there.
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Saying "I'm town" isn't going to change your opinion of me. I want to know your thought process / reasoning.
It's not about my opinion. The strongest argument you could make is to say you have empirical evidence to the effect that I'm wrong, i.e. you're a townie. That's the first thing a townie would say. Asking "What is your reasoning behind this?" is a dodge. Why do you care what my reasoning is if I'm wrong? That's like checking the citations on a treatise on UFO abductions.
My strongest argument is to just say "I'm town"? ****, this Mafia thing is much easier than I thought it was.
Xyre, you never got back to this topic.
Are you saying that if I would have just said "I'm town. You're wrong." you would have dropped the subject and unvoted me? That's what it sounds like you're trying to say, and that's awful play if you really believe that.
Not quite. It's possible a scum would recognize that argument and make it, and I'd have to consider both possibilities.
My point is a townie definitely would NOT have posted what you did. My argument hinged on an absolutist notion - "townies would never do X". The easiest way to disprove that, of course, is to be a townie doing X. And a townie doing X would say so.
Saying "I'm town" isn't going to change your opinion of me. I want to know your thought process / reasoning.
It's not about my opinion. The strongest argument you could make is to say you have empirical evidence to the effect that I'm wrong, i.e. you're a townie. That's the first thing a townie would say. Asking "What is your reasoning behind this?" is a dodge. Why do you care what my reasoning is if I'm wrong? That's like checking the citations on a treatise on UFO abductions.
My strongest argument is to just say "I'm town"? ****, this Mafia thing is much easier than I thought it was.
Xyre, you never got back to this topic.
Are you saying that if I would have just said "I'm town. You're wrong." you would have dropped the subject and unvoted me? That's what it sounds like you're trying to say, and that's awful play if you really believe that.
Not quite. It's possible a scum would recognize that argument and make it, and I'd have to consider both possibilities.
My point is a townie definitely would NOT have posted what you did. My argument hinged on an absolutist notion - "townies would never do X". The easiest way to disprove that, of course, is to be a townie doing X. And a townie doing X would say so.
Karn has clearly been to Home Depot lately, given the large fence he just sat on.
I have 2 clear scumreads, 1 leaning scum, 4 on the fence (at ~170 posts I don't think that's a problem), and 4 clear townreads.
If you made a list right now I highly doubt you would have all of your reads completely clear.
If you have an issue with any part of my post, point it out specifically. Don't just sit to the side slinging mud.
Iso: Leaning town. He and I are on exactly the same wavelength about everything this game. The last time this happened he was town. I have voted him this game, and that vote was serious. I have also mentioned at least one post that I found suspicious, so there is doubt, but I am operating under the assumption that he is town.
Sir Karn: Scum. You made a super bad push on iso and chose to defend an indefensible position rather than admit you were wrong. Also you were spending time trying to make me tell you something completely useless rather than scumhunt.
Xyre: Town. Haven't really played with him before, but i like the words he's saying. Specific example? The various wording/mindset catches on Karn and Aryan.
Atheist God: Null. Low on content, but that content looks reasonable. If anywhere, leaning town.
Voxxicus: Lean Scum. I agree with Xyre that he looks real bad if you're scum because of that softball exchange earlier. He hasn't left much of an impression otherwise though.
ExpiredRascals: Scum. He pushed the totally bogus case on me. This would not be a scumtell except that he's seen me do the exact same thing in the exact same way as town and both Iso and he himself would have been able to stop me had I seriously tried to push for the mass claim.
Zionite: The only true null read right now. I've never played with zionite before and he hasn't done anything, so I can't rule either way.
JeY K: Null, I need to refresh myself on FHF.
pikachugundam: Town. I'm reading his diarrhea of the mouth as self-conscious town. If he had been under, like, any pressure? I'd see it as scummy. But he just vomited that out there basically unprompted. I'd need to double check his games to see if this bears out with his meta though.
Arianrhod: Scum. I hate the Karn vote. I really dislike that he retracted the only argument he had on you and yet still says he thinks you're scum. Oh, wait, sorry, I just remembered: It was even worse than that. He effectively said "I have no reason to be on this wagon, but I'm going to to see how it goes." That's awful.
Ghosting: Town. Refusal to produce reads on command is a town tell to me, especially for somebody who is (supposedly) new.
So I have 3 scum reads and a leaning scum read, which indicates that I'm wrong somewhere, but given the quality of my early game gut reads I'm expecting two scum in there at least.
all of my reads are very clear.
EWP: vanilla claim is vanilla. =w=
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False claims being provided seems likely given the freedom to quote role PMs, so this claim should be treated like any other vanilla claim. I still think Sir Karn isn't a good lynch though.
False claims being provided seems likely given the freedom to quote role PMs, so this claim should be treated like any other vanilla claim. I still think Sir Karn isn't a good lynch though.
Except the mod didn't include the "please confirm" piece in the example PM, and I don't think Sir Karn would have thought about that in constructing a false claim, which suggests he did a reply-quote copy.
False claims being provided seems likely given the freedom to quote role PMs, so this claim should be treated like any other vanilla claim. I still think Sir Karn isn't a good lynch though.
Except the mod didn't include the "please confirm" piece in the example PM, and I don't think Sir Karn would have thought about that in constructing a false claim, which suggests he did a reply-quote copy.
Scum could find that additional line in their own PM or included with their falsies.
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Thanks Meg! I figured it was mod lounge humor since I couldn't follow the quote link, but I wanted to be sure I was understanding what was going on.
I believe there to be a chance of it, and I would like more pressure on him. My read on him isn't firm enough to be like OMG CRUSADE, but I'm fine with shaking the tree and seeing what falls out.
No, I'm new to Mafia, though; this is my second game, although I haven't completed my first yet, but I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes.
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Despite passing my road test (woo) I still have a pit in my stomach whenever I read Iso's posts. I guess I was just meant to die early.
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For my reaction on Karn... I feel like I'm walking on eggshells here - my only mafia experience with him is in an ongoing game, to which speaking about it is strictly forbidden. Therefore I cannot possibly justify anything I want to say about Karn.
But I will say that I think Karn is town; I feel like I'm seeing the same thing all over again with him.
I'm afraid that's all I got until the game is finished.
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Megs, I feel like your play on Rick Santorum in FHF was a lot different than I'm seeing now. Maybe I should gloss it over again to double-check, but I feel like I'm starting over with you. I think you're town so far though.
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Iso is either snatching low-hanging fruit (me, Karn) therefore scummy, or too distracted by his 'guess scum team on Day 1' to try and care otherwise therefore really, really obnoxious town. I think my read is going to depend on a flip or two but he seems really suspicious regardless.
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Congrats on passing your test!
Also, Iso poked at me as well -- I don't think that it's so much low-hanging fruit, as that he's trying to see what reactions he can get out of people. Seems like pretty typically Iso so far -- mercurial as all hell.
Can you substantiate exactly what it is that you dislike about my posts or is this just OMGUS?
Making a mental note of this for later.
So your worldview is that because you think you and Karn are town, I'm scum? How does that work, exactly? What flips will help you determine my alignment and why? And again, what posts of mine exactly do you dislike?
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So why aren't you pressuring him?
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1: I don't dislike your posts or think OMGUS, they just give me chills. Non-game related kinda, hence them being above the first set of dashes with the road test comment.
2:I weighed my options and said that I don't quite have enough info to make a heartfelt decision, however I am still suspicious of you regardless. The three you initially pegged as scum all flipping would shed insight on your alignment. It's not that I dislike your posts, I just can't help but raise an eyebrow, but I can't justify anything about Sir Karn.
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@JK: If Karn flips town, then we probably want to lynch Iso or Megiddo next... If Karn flips scum though, it looks bad for you...
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Any reason why?
So...you want you, Karn, and ER dead?
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What do you see to pressure him on further, that I'm failing at? My vote is on him, and his last posts were already addressed by Voxx. We're only 11 pages in, here, and ~4 ish were RVS. That isn't exactly a lot of material to work with. I've made my complaints clear, I believe.
This is atrocious. Now I'm torn between not liking Karn, and also not liking you.
PPE: So, you admit to wanting to just coast along? I hear you on the whole "nothing is happening" bit, but if you think that Karn is town, there's a whole game full of other people that you could case. Not sure if lazy or scum...or both =/
So you've got a vote out for no reason.
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2. How to Train Your Dragon - Town. Result: Town wins.
3. Unseen University - Town. Result: Mafia wins. Because Iso was scum...
4. Steins; Gate - Town. Result: Mafia wins. Because I lynched Iso when I shouldn't have.
5. Giant Robot Battle Royale - Scum. Result: Town wins. Because Iso didn't give me a gundam.
So why the hell is Iso in all my games? @.@
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Xyre, you never got back to this topic.
Are you saying that if I would have just said "I'm town. You're wrong." you would have dropped the subject and unvoted me? That's what it sounds like you're trying to say, and that's awful play if you really believe that.
Yep. Arian has no reason for voting me right now.
---Thoughts on people right now:
Zionite looks super townie.
Voxx seems townie.
Not a lot from ER, but what he has posted looks good.
Gut says JeY is town. There's nothing malicious coming from her.
Ghosting is annoying with not giving reads. I don't see the reason for acting like this. Not exactly scummy though.
Xyre is being super lazy and pushing at things that don't mean anything. I'm not sure what this means about him - I don't know his meta at all.
Meg still has me uneasy, but is getting a little better. Definitely worth keeping on the radar.
Pikachu literally said he just wants to push the game forward without working for it. It's super scummy, but it's like, so scummy that I don't think scum could post it - if you know what I mean? Maybe it's just stupid instead of scummy.
Iso is either extremely obnoxious and bad town this game, or scum.
Arian is doing nothing and voting with literally no basis. Looking scummy.
AtheistGod is super lurking. I've heard from others that's what he does as scum. He's only made 2 posts: 1 in RVS - the other was asking me questions that he never followed up on.
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AtheistGod really needs to post more.
I feel like this is a good idea:
unvote.
Vote: Arianrhod
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{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Hoping for the same this time.
I did.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
I have 2 clear scumreads, 1 leaning scum, 4 on the fence (at ~170 posts I don't think that's a problem), and 4 clear townreads.
If you made a list right now I highly doubt you would have all of your reads completely clear.
If you have an issue with any part of my post, point it out specifically. Don't just sit to the side slinging mud.
Not quite. It's possible a scum would recognize that argument and make it, and I'd have to consider both possibilities.
My point is a townie definitely would NOT have posted what you did. My argument hinged on an absolutist notion - "townies would never do X". The easiest way to disprove that, of course, is to be a townie doing X. And a townie doing X would say so.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Hyperbolic response to fit in. (And if Silver's scum, 149 makes Karn look worse.)
I'm happy calling a Voxx/Karn/Silver scum team right now.
Hey Karn, you're at 5 votes. You should post your role PM.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Your argument is bad and you should feel bad.
My role:
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Sir Karn: Scum. You made a super bad push on iso and chose to defend an indefensible position rather than admit you were wrong. Also you were spending time trying to make me tell you something completely useless rather than scumhunt.
Xyre: Town. Haven't really played with him before, but i like the words he's saying. Specific example? The various wording/mindset catches on Karn and Aryan.
Atheist God: Null. Low on content, but that content looks reasonable. If anywhere, leaning town.
Voxxicus: Lean Scum. I agree with Xyre that he looks real bad if you're scum because of that softball exchange earlier. He hasn't left much of an impression otherwise though.
ExpiredRascals: Scum. He pushed the totally bogus case on me. This would not be a scumtell except that he's seen me do the exact same thing in the exact same way as town and both Iso and he himself would have been able to stop me had I seriously tried to push for the mass claim.
Zionite: The only true null read right now. I've never played with zionite before and he hasn't done anything, so I can't rule either way.
JeY K: Null, I need to refresh myself on FHF.
pikachugundam: Town. I'm reading his diarrhea of the mouth as self-conscious town. If he had been under, like, any pressure? I'd see it as scummy. But he just vomited that out there basically unprompted. I'd need to double check his games to see if this bears out with his meta though.
Arianrhod: Scum. I hate the Karn vote. I really dislike that he retracted the only argument he had on you and yet still says he thinks you're scum. Oh, wait, sorry, I just remembered: It was even worse than that. He effectively said "I have no reason to be on this wagon, but I'm going to to see how it goes." That's awful.
Ghosting: Town. Refusal to produce reads on command is a town tell to me, especially for somebody who is (supposedly) new.
So I have 3 scum reads and a leaning scum read, which indicates that I'm wrong somewhere, but given the quality of my early game gut reads I'm expecting two scum in there at least.
all of my reads are very clear.
EWP: vanilla claim is vanilla. =w=
Hisao's nurse is known only as Nurse in the game.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
My "fence" and your "null" are the same thing.
If you call '"null" "very clear" then what is not clear about my null?
His reactions seems genuine.
Now that you asked, I searched his name in the thread and realized he hasn't asked anyone questions except for me. He has done 0 scumhunting.
That's not good and has me second-guessing myself.
Except the mod didn't include the "please confirm" piece in the example PM, and I don't think Sir Karn would have thought about that in constructing a false claim, which suggests he did a reply-quote copy.
Experiments Series: #5 (Courtly Intrigue Mafia) | #4 (Drunken Tracker) | #3 (Big Red Button) - coming soon | #2 (Pope Mafia) | #1 (Iso's Inflammable Mafia)
Mini Games: MTGS Mafia Redux II (Invitational, Evil Mirror Universe) | Unreal City
Old Games (bad): The Greenwood Affair | Blood Moon Mafia
Do you think that?
Scum could find that additional line in their own PM or included with their falsies.