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To people who don't watch yet, gist is that some sort of genius programmer made a machine that basically watches everyone all the time to predict the next 9/11 before it happens. **** happens, he goes into hiding, and he finds a homeless, alcoholic ex-CIA agent to be his partner, They fight Crime and while the show starts out a pretty simple procedural, with a twist that they get the person they are helping via a social security number without knowing if its the victim or perpetrator, it ramps up into a wide ranging story of conspiracy, corruption and some light sci-fi via what the machine really is.
It's in it's second season, 3 episode remaining, and renewed for a 3rd, and it is really good, really really good. Oh, and its made by Jonathan Nolan, younger brother of Christopher Nolan, whom some (who am I kidding, every ****ing one of you) might recognize as the guy who made half of the good blockbuster movies of the last decade.
Give it a watch, if you ike the genre you will adore this
Honestly, I watch this only when I can't find something to watch between Big Bang Theory and Elementary. [can't stand Kutcher in 2 half-men.]
It's a cool show, but honestly- I stopped really paying attention when the "dirty cop consortium" subplot became a "go to" filler. I still think that's just a time-occupier, to fill out the episodes and give "character" to the cops helping them.
The recent episode
poisoned doctor
has piqued my interest, more about Finch's predicament than the whole "dirty cop" thing.
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It's not really filler, however, because it ties into at least 4 main plotlines,
Fusco's redemption
Carter's willingness to bend rules and become more of a vigilante
Elias and the rest of the non-HR criminals (he gets an amazing scene in the season finale)
The actual plotline with HR, particular with the mayors aide and the relationship to Beecher
This is a show with a huge number of interwoven plotlines and, holy ****, you will love the rest of the stuff past poisoned doctor.
I still don't really care for the "dirty cop" subplot- the whole crime drama takes away from what Finch/Reese are doing.
I watched the season finale, still dunno who the two dames are that accompanied them- but the one with Reese seems like she could be a second aide or Reese's partner in later seasons.
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I think it adds an extra dimension to what is going on, especially when people are dying and Finch/Reese don't have the opportunity to save them via the Machine, like with Beecher.
I mean, it's kind of like Burn Notice, you have to have some kind of arching subplot that you build towards otherwise the show has no purpose as they're just saving randoms every week. It's cool when you see some of the subplot interweave and connect like they did with Beecher and even with Shaw.
I still don't really care for the "dirty cop" subplot- the whole crime drama takes away from what Finch/Reese are doing.
I watched the season finale, still dunno who the two dames are that accompanied them- but the one with Reese seems like she could be a second aide or Reese's partner in later seasons.
You... you don't know who Root and Shaw are?
Perhaps your enjoyment of the show is hampered by not knowing what is going on?
I think it adds an extra dimension to what is going on, especially when people are dying and Finch/Reese don't have the opportunity to save them via the Machine, like with Beecher.
I mean, it's kind of like Burn Notice, you have to have some kind of arching subplot that you build towards otherwise the show has no purpose as they're just saving randoms every week. It's cool when you see some of the subplot interweave and connect like they did with Beecher and even with Shaw.
Having a dynamic cast is certainly nice, especially with the other even smaller time characters like Leon. It just gives the show a wider feel to it, you know?
Especially since the show isn't JUST about Finch/Reese. Carter is a damn interesting character, so it Fusco, so is Elias. Hell, even the bad guys are damn interesting, Root and "Fair Enough" guy.
I'm a big fan of the show. I tend to like the formula that some of these crime dramas are going towards where there is an overarching plot but also an individual plot to each episode. Perhaps in this series there is more places where they are intentionally vague to pique our curiosity, but not to the point of absurdity where they keep having to reveal at the end of each season that the real bad guy was someone else all along.
Plot lines seem to naturally come up and down and enemies eventually get defeated and new ones appear. In the first two seasons alone you can count 7-8 "villans" in the overall plot all with different motives.
I'm liking some of the side characters, my favorite so far has to be Leon. I loved the scene in one of the episodes at the start where he is handcuffed to the bed and predicts that he'll be saved by Reese.
And at the core of it all, you have the issue of the government having this machine and perhaps giving them too much power. I obviously don't intend on starting a political debate here, but it's an issue that we're starting to see pop up, and the fact that they base a show on it adds another layer.
This is one of my favorite shows besides elementary.
I saw season 3 finale and hope that it comes back for another.
so far my favorite bad guys are elias and root. they are exactly what a bad guy should be.
calculating but also know when to help the good side if it means to further their goals a bit.
I like how carter has evolved from the stick straight cop to doing what is better for the greater good even though it might be sticky law wise.
probably one of the best shows on tv to date.
Well... it's season 2 IIRC, not 3.
Still, I like where this show is going. They can have episodes of "filler" where nothing major happens from an overarching plot perspective. They'll show a few scenes explaining what the other characters are doing (the mayor, HR, elias, root, etc), but sometimes you'll get an episode where it's mostly about them saving a dude and not much else... and I think that's going to be a big reason for the show's longevity because they aren't forcing themselves to really advance the overarching plot.
And at the same time, we're already two seasons in, and while they did do a lot to explain the backstories of both Reese and Finch, you get the feeling that there's still a lot of untapped potential for bad guys to pop up. They haven't really fully tapped into the US government as a source of bad guys other than the guy that was featured in the finale.
And even in the final scene of the season, we see him wheeled away.
We don't see him buried, at least, we don't see him buried with an open casket shot, a casket shot that closes without the camera shifting away, at all, anyway.
They dropped a lot of clues that Carter was going to die, so when the final scene came I strongly suspected she would live. But I think I still had a doubt in my mind because of how unpredictable the show plot went... until they started milking the supposed death scene. Usually when they kill off a character they do it quick and go for the shock value.
I have to say, the show as a whole... you really have to give props to the way it was organized. It's kind of got a mix of all the crime drama types. You have the police procedural CSI/Law and Order aspect where every episode has it's own plot. And they even do a little bit of the Burn Notice/White Collar (insert USA drama here) bit where they have an overarching plot that slowly progresses with each episode. But then they do a bit of the Dexter style where the plots intertwine and they kill off support characters every other show. But on top of all that... the concept for the show is very original.
The only thing negative I can say about the show is that the ways in which the characters get out of jams are mostly just a person showing up in time to save them or revealing that X person was always watching from afar and planned for them to get into danger as a means to set a trap. I wish they could've gone the route of Death Note (just google it, it's an Anime) where they go about getting out of trouble through very complex and clever planning.
That episode was incredible. I actually can't wait for next weeks episode so badly that I may try to watch it while I'm on vacation. Reese has had a balance between total badass and crazy dude because of Carter and I'm kind of excited to see Reese become super badass now.
I do so love this shows writing, plotting, etc. I wondedr how they're going to get out of this seeing as how they went to great pains to put. Reese/fusco 2000 miles away
Up top. I'm digging this season so far, even though I would have liked to see them work without any safety nets for an episode or two longer. I wonder what will happen with the new girl from last nights episode. They could lead her down many paths.
Anyone else watching this? It was up there with Walking Dead and American Horror Story in my highly anticipated returns.
Up top. I'm digging this season so far, even though I would have liked to see them work without any safety nets for an episode or two longer. I wonder what will happen with the new girl from last nights episode. They could lead her down many paths.
Anyone else watching this? It was up there with Walking Dead and American Horror Story in my highly anticipated returns.
I haven't watched this week's episode yet, but if I had to pick three shows I could watch, this one would be on it. Consistently good.
I really like how this episode shows how AI fight. It looks like pretty much everything Samaritan does accomplishes multiple goals while being nearly impossible to interfere with unless one of is aware of it and knows to watch out for a surprising level of coincidence in the real world while not being able to utilize tech.
I love how a dystopia sci fi thriller is, somehow, on network TV.
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To people who don't watch yet, gist is that some sort of genius programmer made a machine that basically watches everyone all the time to predict the next 9/11 before it happens. **** happens, he goes into hiding, and he finds a homeless, alcoholic ex-CIA agent to be his partner, They fight Crime and while the show starts out a pretty simple procedural, with a twist that they get the person they are helping via a social security number without knowing if its the victim or perpetrator, it ramps up into a wide ranging story of conspiracy, corruption and some light sci-fi via what the machine really is.
It's in it's second season, 3 episode remaining, and renewed for a 3rd, and it is really good, really really good. Oh, and its made by Jonathan Nolan, younger brother of Christopher Nolan, whom some (who am I kidding, every ****ing one of you) might recognize as the guy who made half of the good blockbuster movies of the last decade.
Give it a watch, if you ike the genre you will adore this
It's a cool show, but honestly- I stopped really paying attention when the "dirty cop consortium" subplot became a "go to" filler. I still think that's just a time-occupier, to fill out the episodes and give "character" to the cops helping them.
The recent episode
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"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
Carter's willingness to bend rules and become more of a vigilante
Elias and the rest of the non-HR criminals (he gets an amazing scene in the season finale)
The actual plotline with HR, particular with the mayors aide and the relationship to Beecher
This is a show with a huge number of interwoven plotlines and, holy ****, you will love the rest of the stuff past poisoned doctor.
I watched the season finale, still dunno who the two dames are that accompanied them- but the one with Reese seems like she could be a second aide or Reese's partner in later seasons.
King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
I mean, it's kind of like Burn Notice, you have to have some kind of arching subplot that you build towards otherwise the show has no purpose as they're just saving randoms every week. It's cool when you see some of the subplot interweave and connect like they did with Beecher and even with Shaw.
You... you don't know who Root and Shaw are?
Perhaps your enjoyment of the show is hampered by not knowing what is going on?
Having a dynamic cast is certainly nice, especially with the other even smaller time characters like Leon. It just gives the show a wider feel to it, you know?
Especially since the show isn't JUST about Finch/Reese. Carter is a damn interesting character, so it Fusco, so is Elias. Hell, even the bad guys are damn interesting, Root and "Fair Enough" guy.
Plus Shaw, damn cool lady
Plot lines seem to naturally come up and down and enemies eventually get defeated and new ones appear. In the first two seasons alone you can count 7-8 "villans" in the overall plot all with different motives.
I'm liking some of the side characters, my favorite so far has to be Leon. I loved the scene in one of the episodes at the start where he is handcuffed to the bed and predicts that he'll be saved by Reese.
And at the core of it all, you have the issue of the government having this machine and perhaps giving them too much power. I obviously don't intend on starting a political debate here, but it's an issue that we're starting to see pop up, and the fact that they base a show on it adds another layer.
I saw season 3 finale and hope that it comes back for another.
so far my favorite bad guys are elias and root. they are exactly what a bad guy should be.
calculating but also know when to help the good side if it means to further their goals a bit.
I like how carter has evolved from the stick straight cop to doing what is better for the greater good even though it might be sticky law wise.
probably one of the best shows on tv to date.
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Well... it's season 2 IIRC, not 3.
Still, I like where this show is going. They can have episodes of "filler" where nothing major happens from an overarching plot perspective. They'll show a few scenes explaining what the other characters are doing (the mayor, HR, elias, root, etc), but sometimes you'll get an episode where it's mostly about them saving a dude and not much else... and I think that's going to be a big reason for the show's longevity because they aren't forcing themselves to really advance the overarching plot.
And at the same time, we're already two seasons in, and while they did do a lot to explain the backstories of both Reese and Finch, you get the feeling that there's still a lot of untapped potential for bad guys to pop up. They haven't really fully tapped into the US government as a source of bad guys other than the guy that was featured in the finale.
We don't see him buried, at least, we don't see him buried with an open casket shot, a casket shot that closes without the camera shifting away, at all, anyway.
Because, you know, ya
I have to say, the show as a whole... you really have to give props to the way it was organized. It's kind of got a mix of all the crime drama types. You have the police procedural CSI/Law and Order aspect where every episode has it's own plot. And they even do a little bit of the Burn Notice/White Collar (insert USA drama here) bit where they have an overarching plot that slowly progresses with each episode. But then they do a bit of the Dexter style where the plots intertwine and they kill off support characters every other show. But on top of all that... the concept for the show is very original.
The only thing negative I can say about the show is that the ways in which the characters get out of jams are mostly just a person showing up in time to save them or revealing that X person was always watching from afar and planned for them to get into danger as a means to set a trap. I wish they could've gone the route of Death Note (just google it, it's an Anime) where they go about getting out of trouble through very complex and clever planning.
I mean, I knew something was gonna happen with the 98% thing, with the gun in impound, with all that
Also, fusco's face when he choked that guy out was ****ing awesome, but still.
I do so love this shows writing, plotting, etc. I wondedr how they're going to get out of this seeing as how they went to great pains to put. Reese/fusco 2000 miles away
Anyone else watching this? It was up there with Walking Dead and American Horror Story in my highly anticipated returns.
I haven't watched this week's episode yet, but if I had to pick three shows I could watch, this one would be on it. Consistently good.
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I really like how this episode shows how AI fight. It looks like pretty much everything Samaritan does accomplishes multiple goals while being nearly impossible to interfere with unless one of is aware of it and knows to watch out for a surprising level of coincidence in the real world while not being able to utilize tech.
I love how a dystopia sci fi thriller is, somehow, on network TV.