Ran into chaox at GP philly. First time meeting someone involved involve(d) at the pro scene. It was cool, he was very nice and let me take a photo with him.
I kind of hope that she stops being FOTM as a support because then they will nerf the duration on her E
It's not her E that gives me problems, it's her Q. One snare, and you've pretty much lost lane early. The duration is insane at rank one, and turns into one of the longest CC's in the game. Yeah, it's slow and what-not, but you are eventually going to get hit by one, and when you do, it's bad. Her plus Draven/Lucian/Sivir is just stupid amounts of damage.
That being said, I don't really think she NEEDS a nerf, but maybe a tune-up on her Q to scale from 1-3 seconds instead of from 2-3?
She's only fotm just because she hard counters Leona who is picked in almost every game. Just nerf Leona and Morg will stop being used as a support.
As a Morg player I will tell that Dark Binding is soft cc so you can still do stuff, it's one of the slowest skillshots in the game with a terrible collision detection and the fact that it sometimes goes through people doing nothing to them. Lowering her Q to 1 second makes mid Morg kind of bad because Morg can no longer follow up soil with it. That's encouraging Morg to be used as a support more if anything. Also Zyra is still way better for the support role than Morg because she has stronger control skills.
Missle speed is 1200 on an 1300 range skill so it takes about 1.1 seconds to travel the full distance making any shot from farther than 900 away pretty hard to hit since you can just run straight away. Anything between 500-900 is difficult, but possible and under 500 should be "they have to flash" to avoid range if your aim is right, except, its a rather big circle so you can let creeps block it pretty easy. By comparison, Blitzcranks Q has a missle speed of 1800 on a 950 range giving a half second of reaction time with a smaller hitbox allowing for a deft player to thread the skill.
But like Yagami said, Morgana gets to hardcounter leona (and, for that matter, done right she hardcounters grab champs in lane as well) because when your adc has that E on them then leona et al. do nothing to them.
That said, I love morgana. She is my most played mid, by far, and her Q is amazing, but it is a very difficult spell to use in lane and lowering her Q would be bad as it would mean that none of her spells are that good with simply a single rank. Dark Binding is one of the more difficult skillshots to land in lane and if you know how to play against a blitz then you know how to play against a morg as their pre-6 laning provides a lot of the same threats. The difference though is that morgana gets to give the ADC immunity to crowd control for 5 seconds. As soon as leona E's onto the adc, morgana E lets them just... walk it off and unless you are with one of the few ADCs that does magic damage, let alone one that does enough to break the ~120 point shield a level 2 morgana with ~30 AP grants has then, well, for thats nice, but most ADCs get to watch as draven, in drawme's case, gets to absolutely stomp all over you while completely ignoring the support.
Fun *****, all things considered, morgana is a beast of a champion
I kind of hope that she stops being FOTM as a support because then they will nerf the duration on her E
It's not her E that gives me problems, it's her Q. One snare, and you've pretty much lost lane early. The duration is insane at rank one, and turns into one of the longest CC's in the game. Yeah, it's slow and what-not, but you are eventually going to get hit by one, and when you do, it's bad. Her plus Draven/Lucian/Sivir is just stupid amounts of damage.
That being said, I don't really think she NEEDS a nerf, but maybe a tune-up on her Q to scale from 1-3 seconds instead of from 2-3?
Pretty much. I don't know if she's op, but landing a Q in a duo lane is only incrementally less likely to net you a kill than a Blitz hook is.
Feral flare needs massive nerfs. I was Trynd. I had BotR, Berserkers, SS, LW, IE and Chain Vest. The Xin on my team had Feral Flare, Triforce, BotR,, Merc treads, Sunfire Cape and Spirit Visage. Xin ended up doing 4 thousand more damage than me. That's so stupid...
Also, I just played against darius as pantheon in ranked. Dude was gold v, 150 radius games out of hid 230 ranked games and he was absolutely horrid. How? I get when people have 2k in norms and just suck, but the guy ranks constantly and just did not seem to know what to do via a panth. Was weird.
Kat is so fun :3
Thanks GLC
Either way, I should play more assassins. I feel like I'm pretty good with them IMHO. When I succeed, I succeed well. But when I fail, I fail hard
Too bad the community is so toxic.
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It's not her E that gives me problems, it's her Q. One snare, and you've pretty much lost lane early. The duration is insane at rank one, and turns into one of the longest CC's in the game. Yeah, it's slow and what-not, but you are eventually going to get hit by one, and when you do, it's bad. Her plus Draven/Lucian/Sivir is just stupid amounts of damage.
That being said, I don't really think she NEEDS a nerf, but maybe a tune-up on her Q to scale from 1-3 seconds instead of from 2-3?
As a Morg player I will tell that Dark Binding is soft cc so you can still do stuff, it's one of the slowest skillshots in the game with a terrible collision detection and the fact that it sometimes goes through people doing nothing to them. Lowering her Q to 1 second makes mid Morg kind of bad because Morg can no longer follow up soil with it. That's encouraging Morg to be used as a support more if anything. Also Zyra is still way better for the support role than Morg because she has stronger control skills.
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But like Yagami said, Morgana gets to hardcounter leona (and, for that matter, done right she hardcounters grab champs in lane as well) because when your adc has that E on them then leona et al. do nothing to them.
That said, I love morgana. She is my most played mid, by far, and her Q is amazing, but it is a very difficult spell to use in lane and lowering her Q would be bad as it would mean that none of her spells are that good with simply a single rank. Dark Binding is one of the more difficult skillshots to land in lane and if you know how to play against a blitz then you know how to play against a morg as their pre-6 laning provides a lot of the same threats. The difference though is that morgana gets to give the ADC immunity to crowd control for 5 seconds. As soon as leona E's onto the adc, morgana E lets them just... walk it off and unless you are with one of the few ADCs that does magic damage, let alone one that does enough to break the ~120 point shield a level 2 morgana with ~30 AP grants has then, well, for thats nice, but most ADCs get to watch as draven, in drawme's case, gets to absolutely stomp all over you while completely ignoring the support.
Fun *****, all things considered, morgana is a beast of a champion
Pretty much. I don't know if she's op, but landing a Q in a duo lane is only incrementally less likely to net you a kill than a Blitz hook is.
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WUBRG Storm WUBRG
UBR FaerieStalker UBR
EDH
Sygg, River Cutthroat (1vs1)
Maga, Traitor to Mortals (multiplayer)
Also, I just played against darius as pantheon in ranked. Dude was gold v, 150 radius games out of hid 230 ranked games and he was absolutely horrid. How? I get when people have 2k in norms and just suck, but the guy ranks constantly and just did not seem to know what to do via a panth. Was weird.
Anyone seen GLJ around?
Thanks GLC
Either way, I should play more assassins. I feel like I'm pretty good with them IMHO. When I succeed, I succeed well. But when I fail, I fail hard
Thanks Argentleman;)
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Thanks Argentleman;)
WB Teysa token aggroBW (retired)
MAKING (Onmath, Numot, maybe something in Esper)
Right now, top tier junglers are Master Yi, Xin Zhou, Nocturne, and Vi. Xin especially seems to be amazing with Feral Flare.