Also, I feel that some of the champs that dont work as well are ones people generally build as straight tanks.
I've been doing pretty well as hypertank Leona. Perma-stun, perma-bubble, sticky as hell, 12s cooldown on Randuin's and Locket/FotM. Plus I've found that teams don't bother to balance damage types; more often than not I've been able to just stack armor or MR to the moon.
Was even scarier yesterday before they disabled Revive. Revive + Teleport was basically a free GA.
Yea I do my best when I get bans to make sure that Alistar, Riven, Fizz and Akali are banned. The only time I've been banner so far, the other guy got Ali for me.
AP Kog is hilarious. AP Ezreal is broken. Urgot is broken. Chogath is maybe the strongest I've seen tho, other than the usually banned nidalee/sona/soraka.
Hec, Vlad, Fizz, Nidalee, Galio, Alistair, Sona, Soraka, Taric, Sion completely take the fun out of this mode. Brand, Morg, Jayce, Cho and AP Xin get kind of stupid too.
The way you guys are squealing in utter excitement, I think I should give URF a try...
Shame they don't have beginner AI mode on that (though I do absolutely appreciate they actually HAVE AI mode on that at all; not being able to play ARAM or Hexakill without playing PvP was quite a huge turn off for me); the first experience is going to be a complete chaos....
EDIT: O. M. G.
First time URF with Ziggs. BOMBS EVERYWHERE!!
And I think I over-estimated the difficulty level of these Intermediate Bots, at least maybe a fluke; despite facing off against ANNIE and KARTHUS, my team won pretty handily. Maybe the Intermediate AI is not exactly used to such a super-ultra fast gameplay yet (but Lux and Malzahar were still a HUGE problem)
EDIT 2:
So I think I can figure out why it seems so easy to trounce Intermediate Bots in URF.... the bots, if I'm not mistaken, are good at long term plannings, which is why an Intermediate Bot at level 18 is a nightmare. URF is WAAAAAAYYYY too fast for the Bots to plan through (if there is such a thing as planning in that case), that they perform rather pitifully.
Anyway, playing AOE champs in URF was such a blast for me (Ziggs, Miss Fortune, Vel'Koz)
Maokai was hilarious in urf, i got to enemy tribush first and started dumping them saps like nuts, wild heimer walks by "First Blood"..... and the game just never recovered afterwards... once i hit 6 i dropped it near their turret so if they ever tried to initiate well... it wasnt pretty....
Was going to play Taric... but my isp decided it was too outrageous and started spasming.
Malzahar is a beast if you can have your team babysit.
If only my isp would stabilize so i could play more than one game a day...
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Looks like what I suspect the AI being rather lacklustre in URF due to super fast pace was quite right; I just finished a game against Cass, Vlad, Zilean, Cait and F***ingstick, and due to Vlad's ridiculous sustain and FStick's CCs, we couldn't finish the game fast enough that the AI manage to full-build their team to level 18, and we were really struggling. My two games prior to this one were relatively breezy.
But holy hell, URF = UNLIMITED RIDICULOUS FUN.
EDIT: Unless Fiddle, Brand or Vlad is involved, then it's ABSOLUTE TORTURE.
EDIT: Healers are total HORRORS in URF. After playing Soraka and Sona, I can't imagine people playing healers and not being instantly targeted from the get go. Sona, for example; Once her AP goes sky high, constant spamming of W means it will require VERY VERY quick burst to shut her down fast; if she's ever out of combat for a few second, she'll look like she's not hurt at all. Soraka's wish with 32 seconds cooldown can also get pretty ridiculous.
EDIT: Healers are total HORRORS in URF. After playing Soraka and Sona, I can't imagine people playing healers and not being instantly targeted from the get go. Sona, for example; Once her AP goes sky high, constant spamming of W means it will require VERY VERY quick burst to shut her down fast; if she's ever out of combat for a few second, she'll look like she's not hurt at all. Soraka's wish with 32 seconds cooldown can also get pretty ridiculous.
The thing is they die instantly once they get ccd, and having no mobility and poor range means it's very easy to kill them. Soraka to a lesser extent thanks to her targeted silence.
The strongest people in the game mode imo are specifically people who can burst you before you can do anything, have very strong cc, or have invincibility. Fizz is the meeting of all 4 (before you can do anything = huge burst damage as well as high mobility), people like Zed have so much burst and mobility that they work, Vlad's a monster thanks to pool/zhonyas unless you can stick cc or outrun him very promptly. Then Ali has enough mobility, great CC, assloads of burst and... his ult isn't invincibility, but because it breaks CC and and is SO much reduction, it's a unique thing on the same level as invincibility.
Edit: I just had a ranked game that people might find interesting. I picked jungle nocturne after a guy in the third round of picks had called jungle, so he proceeded to pick jungle fid and troll me and the team - stand near us behind a wall when we're sieging as if to ult in should we fight, then ulting the opposite direction, flash smiting stuff I'm jungling, saying he'll help with baron (I never believed him) and then leaving when it gets to 2.5kish health, etc. Anyway despite all this (and me being behind as ***** until like 30 minutes) we managed to get a big lead and probably could've ended at like 35 minutes... but before he would help end he demanded that I say I wanted to win, apologized to him and said I'd suck his dick. I said I wanted to win, and nothing else. The funny thing is... our teammates started apologizing to him and getting mad at me, calling me immature, etc. Our top laner wanted to surrender for like 10 minutes... Then we won at 50 minutes anyway.
E is much better. I wish it also had gotten lower mana costs like double up. 3 Seconds slow with 65% aoe at max rank is actually pretty good.
Single target Q does terrible damage. Bounce Q does a little lower damage but you can spam it much more often and has a higher ratio than her old q.
You lose a ton of damage from her W even if someone has 79 magic resist. I fought dragon. 6 stacks only did 70 something damage to it even though the scaling on it was 20. If there was a hybrid penetration item this would be much better.
Ultimate roughly does more damage if you hit 6 waves. If you hit fewer than 6 waves than it does less.
I've been doing pretty well as hypertank Leona. Perma-stun, perma-bubble, sticky as hell, 12s cooldown on Randuin's and Locket/FotM. Plus I've found that teams don't bother to balance damage types; more often than not I've been able to just stack armor or MR to the moon.
Was even scarier yesterday before they disabled Revive. Revive + Teleport was basically a free GA.
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Hec, Vlad, Fizz, Nidalee, Galio, Alistair, Sona, Soraka, Taric, Sion completely take the fun out of this mode. Brand, Morg, Jayce, Cho and AP Xin get kind of stupid too.
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Not like there aren't more than 6 champs that take the fun out of normal mode though, at least when laning against them.
Shame they don't have beginner AI mode on that (though I do absolutely appreciate they actually HAVE AI mode on that at all; not being able to play ARAM or Hexakill without playing PvP was quite a huge turn off for me); the first experience is going to be a complete chaos....
EDIT: O. M. G.
First time URF with Ziggs. BOMBS EVERYWHERE!!
And I think I over-estimated the difficulty level of these Intermediate Bots, at least maybe a fluke; despite facing off against ANNIE and KARTHUS, my team won pretty handily. Maybe the Intermediate AI is not exactly used to such a super-ultra fast gameplay yet (but Lux and Malzahar were still a HUGE problem)
EDIT 2:
So I think I can figure out why it seems so easy to trounce Intermediate Bots in URF.... the bots, if I'm not mistaken, are good at long term plannings, which is why an Intermediate Bot at level 18 is a nightmare. URF is WAAAAAAYYYY too fast for the Bots to plan through (if there is such a thing as planning in that case), that they perform rather pitifully.
Anyway, playing AOE champs in URF was such a blast for me (Ziggs, Miss Fortune, Vel'Koz)
Was going to play Taric... but my isp decided it was too outrageous and started spasming.
Malzahar is a beast if you can have your team babysit.
If only my isp would stabilize so i could play more than one game a day...
But holy hell, URF = UNLIMITED RIDICULOUS FUN.
EDIT: Unless Fiddle, Brand or Vlad is involved, then it's ABSOLUTE TORTURE.
EDIT: Healers are total HORRORS in URF. After playing Soraka and Sona, I can't imagine people playing healers and not being instantly targeted from the get go. Sona, for example; Once her AP goes sky high, constant spamming of W means it will require VERY VERY quick burst to shut her down fast; if she's ever out of combat for a few second, she'll look like she's not hurt at all. Soraka's wish with 32 seconds cooldown can also get pretty ridiculous.
You can also get a Warmogs and a Last Whisper.
Infinite uptime on (ranged)w makes you soooooooo strong, you get like 500AD and 75% lifesteal with 2.5 atk spd.
I's so stupid strong.
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You should try Infinity edge on him. 325 percent damage crits at max attack speed are stupidly strong.
The strongest people in the game mode imo are specifically people who can burst you before you can do anything, have very strong cc, or have invincibility. Fizz is the meeting of all 4 (before you can do anything = huge burst damage as well as high mobility), people like Zed have so much burst and mobility that they work, Vlad's a monster thanks to pool/zhonyas unless you can stick cc or outrun him very promptly. Then Ali has enough mobility, great CC, assloads of burst and... his ult isn't invincibility, but because it breaks CC and and is SO much reduction, it's a unique thing on the same level as invincibility.
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Edit: I just had a ranked game that people might find interesting. I picked jungle nocturne after a guy in the third round of picks had called jungle, so he proceeded to pick jungle fid and troll me and the team - stand near us behind a wall when we're sieging as if to ult in should we fight, then ulting the opposite direction, flash smiting stuff I'm jungling, saying he'll help with baron (I never believed him) and then leaving when it gets to 2.5kish health, etc. Anyway despite all this (and me being behind as ***** until like 30 minutes) we managed to get a big lead and probably could've ended at like 35 minutes... but before he would help end he demanded that I say I wanted to win, apologized to him and said I'd suck his dick. I said I wanted to win, and nothing else. The funny thing is... our teammates started apologizing to him and getting mad at me, calling me immature, etc. Our top laner wanted to surrender for like 10 minutes... Then we won at 50 minutes anyway.
E is much better. I wish it also had gotten lower mana costs like double up. 3 Seconds slow with 65% aoe at max rank is actually pretty good.
Single target Q does terrible damage. Bounce Q does a little lower damage but you can spam it much more often and has a higher ratio than her old q.
You lose a ton of damage from her W even if someone has 79 magic resist. I fought dragon. 6 stacks only did 70 something damage to it even though the scaling on it was 20. If there was a hybrid penetration item this would be much better.
Ultimate roughly does more damage if you hit 6 waves. If you hit fewer than 6 waves than it does less.
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