THE top 10 songs of the years 2000-present (read first post before posting!)

  • #1
    Since the 10 top albums of this century thread was quite popular, I decided to make one for songs too. Some people had trouble picking albums, so picking individual songs should be easier.

    The last thread was a bit unorganized, so I'm gonna add some structure to this thread. In order to post, your post must meet these criteria:

    -Only post songs from the years 2000-present.
    -Don't post your favorite songs, post the songs that were musically the best. Your opinion may certainly be injected, but don't make the list purely based on your favorites.
    -Include a description for each song and explain why it is on the list.
    -No trolling/flaming and telling each other that your music sucks. If you have criticism toward a song, make it constructive.
    -No lists that are purely one genre. (ie: no all metal lists, all rap list, etc). A list with only one genre is certainly not accurate, because one genre cannot contain the best songs from the past 11 years.

    Mods have my encouragement to infract/warn people for breaking these rules.


    My list:

    1. Green day: American Idiot
    This song defined an era, the era of post-9/11 paranoia, where a nation was dumb enough to elect the worst leader America has ever had. It was literally the anthem of people who knew better for years and years. because it defined this very era that we are rating, it has to be #1.

    2. Eminem: Stan
    This song changed rap forever. This was the turning point for rap music, where it was finally forced to think outside the box. This is certainly the most innovative rap song of all time, and has a great level of personality to it. The song tells a great story, and keeps you listening from start to finish.

    3. Avenged Sevenfold: A little piece of heaven
    This was a song that nobody thought would work, but the more the song evolved, the more it worked. Anybody who questions that this band doesn't have depth needs to listen to this song. The lyrics tell a complete story about love, death, and necrophilia. There are so many instrument parts in this song that it almost reminds me of broadway. This song is unorthodox, wacky, but it works! This is an example of great songwriting, and musicians who aren't afraid to break the barrier.

    4. Linkin Park: Breaking the Habit
    This song took years and years to complete, and Chester hails it as his masterpiece, and rightfully so. The lyrics fit in place perfectly, the rhythm is all there, the guitar support part is fantastic, and all the backing chords pit perfectly. There isn't a thing about this song that is out of place, and it it truly is a masterpiece.

    5. Mae: We're so far away
    This song is unique because it has no time signature. You rarely hear piano this good in music these days. The song tells a story, and you certainly get that vibe as the song goes on. The song doesn't stay the same the whole way through, as strings come in halfway through the song along with a beautiful chorus of vocals. This all builds to a dramatic, dynamic conclusion with the first and last distorted guitar chord of the song. This is nothing but a beautiful masterpiece, and everything a piece of music should be. It really moves the listener.

    6. Muse: The United States of Eurasia/Collateral Damage
    This song takes you back to the great classical era of music. One of the greatest things about this song is the dynamics. In order to be a great musician, you have to use dynamics effectively in your music. The first verse and chorus use the build up of dynamics to great effect, where the second verse is more compressed. The lyrics are very effective, talking about the endless wars in the world that can't be won. The vocal harmonies are very reminiscent of Queen. The song concludes as a cover of a Chopin song, which is fabulously played by the singer on the piano. This will go down as a classic.

    7. Weezer: Haunt you every day
    This was the first song that Rivers had ever written on piano, and it has the vibe that you would get from a classic songwriter. Ironically, it has a rather haunting melody. It is much different from other Weezer songs, as it lacks the fun vibe, and is much more serious. The guitar solo is much better than in other Weezer songs, and the vocal harmonies are great as well. The song is simple, but very effective; something weezer has made a career out of.

    8. Cradle of filth: The promise of fever
    This song is quite intense without being too much. The song kicks off with a blast, with Dani screaming along with the Budapest symphony and choir. The epic feel of the song continues as it gets more musical without losing a bit of it's intensity. The second half of the song continues with Dani's shrieks lessening and epic vocal blasts of the choir becoming the focal point. The orchestra takes over at points, only to be answered with epic power chord blasts from the guitar. The song spirals downward eventually, only to pick up where it began, as the blas-beats continue as the song concludes and the strings fade out in a downtuning. The song is very well-written, and is certainly one of the best metal songs in recent memory.

    9. Coheed and Cambria: The final cut
    This song is on the list because I cannot think of more innovative guitar work in this century. The guitar solos that conclude this song are one of a kind, and the chord progression is a classic chord progression to be improvised over. This song shows off how talented the band really is, and the song concludes with a keyboard playing up the chromatic scale, to end on a rather haunting and bone-chilling note.

    10. Avenged Sevenfold: Bat Country
    This was the first song to ever really blend punk and classic metal. It invented a style all on it's own. The song itself is very good, and has one of the most memorable guitar solos of this century. The chord progression in the bridge is nostalgic and very melodic. The dynamics on this song have excellent range. The song goes from being punk, metal, and a rock ballad all within 5 minutes. An impressive feat.
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    Burzum - Glemselens Elv
    Burzum - Belus' Doed
    Children of Bodom - Follow the Reaper
    Children of Bodom - Everytime I Die
    Satanic Warmaster - Carelian Satanist Madness
    Behemoth - Inner Sanctum
    Darkness Rites - Winds of ****
    Drudkh - Eternity
    Drudkh - Furrows of Gods
    Between the Buried and Me - Selkies: The Endless Obsession (This is how core is done.)

    The best songs of this century. Yes, Burzum is on top again. Varg Vikernes is pretty much the Mozart of the 20th/21st century, I believe, and his compositions are as strong now as they were in the late 90s.
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    Quote from pervythemilkman

    -Don't post your favorite songs, post the songs that were musically the best.



    What exactly does this mean?


    This may sound like a simple and/or ignorant question, but it actually defines this thread. In your album thread there was a lot of flaming over what could or couldn't be considered "best musically." There really is no such thing as a "best" when it comes to music. Music isn't a competition and different types of music can't always be compared to each other, so choosing a "best" usually comes down picking favorites.


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    -Don't post your favorite songs, post the songs that were musically the best. Your opinion may certainly be injected, but don't make the list purely based on your favorites.

    A song being musically the best has no meaning whatsoever. A song is good because you like it. That's it.

    I also don't see how you can really explain why a song is good to you. You can say what you like about it, you can tell what the song means to you and you can try to assess societal impact, but that's it. That last part may be objective, but it's a completely different sort of topic (more of a scientific study, really - I really doubt American Idiot had as much impact as you ascribe to it).

    This should be doable. In no particular order:
    1. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - 09-15-00 (2002): An ensemble crafting a whole of beauty.
    2. Mono - Ashes in the Snow (2009): Idem.
    3. Ensiferum - LAI LAI HEI (2004): Descent to bad lyrics, but the music is epic.
    4. Agalloch - Our Fortress Is Burning... I and II - Bloodbirds (2006): Singing is a bit over the top, but still the best doom metal song ever. Part III sucks and is unnecessary.
    5. Archive - Again (2002): Best broken love song of the last decades. Everything contributes, from the distorted instrumentals and sound effects to the alternating emotionless and breakdown vocals.
    6. Bathory - Foreverdark Woods (2003): Bad sound quality and bland instruments in the latter part of the song, but epic lyrics, singing, structure and use of instruments.
    7. Explosions in the Sky - Your Hand in Mine (2003): Idem as the other post rock tracks.
    8. Porcupine Tree - Anesthetize (2007)
    9. Rosetta - Wake (2007): Ritualistic.
    10. Swallow the Sun - Deadly Nightshade (2003)
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    Quote from misterpid
    What exactly does this mean?


    This may sound like a simple and/or ignorant question, but it actually defines this thread. In your album thread there was a lot of flaming over what could or couldn't be considered "best musically." There really is no such thing as a "best" when it comes to music. Music isn't a competition and different types of music can't always be compared to each other, so choosing a "best" usually comes down picking favorites.


    What he said.

    And I don't see how picking 10 songs is supposed to be easier than picking 10 albums
    Also, realistically, all 10 of my songs WOULD be from the Repo: The Genetic Opera Soundtrack, but I'll try my best not to include any of them. It was hard enough to not throw that soundtrack on my list of top 10 albums.

    Anyways, *takes a big breath* here we go...

    1. Just Dance- by Lady Gaga (2009)
    The song that introduced Gaga to the world. It's catchy, it's fun, it broke out. Every decade and era of music has artists and songs that helped define it and that people refer to when discussing that particular point in music history. Lady Gaga is that artists, and Just Dance is that song.

    2. Blah Blah Blah- by Ke$ha (2010)
    Proof that through hard work, determination, and auto-tune, you to can become a mainstream musical success. In all seriousness though, Ke$ha is for the lulz, but this song is just plain awesome.

    3. Beautiful- by Christina Aguilera (2002)
    Probably the most well known song by Xtina. It became a feel good anthem for people everywhere. It's still around today and still good, because it's more than a song, it's about being human.

    4. Rise Up and Shout- by John Quale (2009)
    Most people probably don't even know who John Quale is. Most people probably don't even know who Prince Poppycock is for that matter. Why this song isn't a front line anthem for gay rights and liberation in general is beyond me.

    5. Miss Murder- By A.F.I. (2006)
    This song pretty much brought AFI entirely into the mainstream. Many people considered this song to be a huge sell out and a gross copy of every other song on the radio, but really it's nothing near that. Lyrically the song is amazing. The video made the somg even more immersive and the entire song is a landmark to AFI's ever shifting style.

    6. The Byronic Man- by Cradle of Filth (2006)
    I've listened to this song more than any other song ever. The verses leading up to the cameo by Ville Valo, and the cameo by Ville Vale are pretty much the most epic moments in song history.

    7. The Fight Song- by Marilyn Manson (2000)
    Not much to say. There was lots of Manson songs I wanted to put on this list, but this one seemed the most well suited. Another anthem-ish song.

    8. New Letters- by Company of Thieves (2009)
    The best song by one of the best bands ever. It's like all of the best things that could ever happen to you in your lifetime, compressed and turned into a song that makes your ears happy and a tear come to your eyes. Truly a beautiful masterpiece.

    9. Nymphetamine Overdose- by Cradle of Filth (2004)
    One of Cradle's more well known pieces. Truly epic and awe-worthy. Dani's lyrical mastery seems to be neverending. The way the song shifts through styles is very notable as well.

    10. Drove Through Ghosts To Get Here- by 65daysofstatic (2005)
    Another band that, most likely, hardly anyone knows of. I saw them when they opened for The Cure at a concert I went to. They opened with this song, and I was hooked instantly. Hopefully we start to see more bands like this in the future.
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  • #7
    Lol, musically the best. American Idiot by Green Day is the musically best song of the past century?
    *leaves thread*
  • #8
    Quote from misterpid
    What exactly does this mean?
    This may sound like a simple and/or ignorant question, but it actually defines this thread. In your album thread there was a lot of flaming over what could or couldn't be considered "best musically." There really is no such thing as a "best" when it comes to music. Music isn't a competition and different types of music can't always be compared to each other, so choosing a "best" usually comes down picking favorites.

    It means don't just pick all your favorite songs, because if you do, chances are, you're wrong. Just try to be a little unbiased. Critique songs like the professionals do. A good song is usually determined by melody, length, structure, chord progressions, harmonics, rhythm, lyrics, emotion, production, and the level of impact that it had on things. This should be your basis for posting a song, not "I posted it because it rocks, yeah!!"

    Also, I guess some people can't read... the rules clearly state to describe each song and give a reason for being on the list, and to not post lists consisting of one genre...

    This list is meant to be challenging, not just "here are 10 songs that I like, kthxbai."
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    King Geedorah- Monster Zero -Beautiful montage of quotes over a drum-driven beat. The concept of the album would be lost without it. This track solidified Take Me to Your Leader as the best hip-hop album of the decade.

    Kanye West- Power- Far and away the greatest hip-hop song since it died back in the early 2000's.

    Iron and Wine- Jezebel- Captures southern geniality perfectly. Simple song with a beautiful banjo solo.

    John Frusciante- Carvel- Can't really defend this song musically, but I love the melody and intensity near the end.

    Nujabes- Luv (Sic) Pt. 3- Shing02's offbeat raps go over great on one of the best beats I've ever heard.

    Red Hot Chili Peppers- Tear- Simplicity is often better than complexity. Instrumental section featuring John's tremolo is stunning.

    Zion I- Metropolis

    The Strokes- The Modern Age- Song that brought back garage rock. The meaning underneath all of the faux-simplicity is incredible. Style is unmatched. My nominee for song of the decade.

    The Strokes- Hard to Explain- The greatest chord progression of any modern song, bar none. I would love to debate this with someone. Julian laces a beautiful melody over a sonic wonder.

    50 Cent- In Da Club- Song that, for better or worse, changed hip-hop. I don't like it at all, but it is probably the song that defines the decade.

    For the record, Franklin Pierce and Warren G. Harding were much worse presidents than Bush, and Stan did not change hip-hop (still a fantastic track).
  • #10
    The whole idea of having ten favorite songs is kinda lame tbh. It's like people compiling their favorite scenes from various movies and not even talking about the rest of the movie. The only correct way to listen to music is by the album.
  • #11
    I agree with that, but there are standouts on the album that one can say are "the best", even if the only way to correctly understand it is in context with the rest of the album.

    People that listen to only singles really bug me.
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  • #12
    For me personally, album themes and stuff aren't very important - I prefer instrumentals, and in songs with lyrics, I see the vocals as just another instrument, to put it that way, and don't pay close attention to any meaning (if any) behind them.

    I agree that you should listen to entire albums and not just the most well-known songs on each of them, but for me personally, listening to songs and compare them out of context with the rest of the album is completely fine. It really depends on what you're looking for in music, and what genres you're listening to.

    And also, this quote makes me wonder what the purpose of this thread really is:
    Quote from pervythemilkman »
    -Don't post your favorite songs, post the songs that were musically the best.

    Music is subjective, so favorite songs = best songs to each listener. I won't recognize any songs I don't like as being "good" (although I obviously respect different opinions... with a few, small exceptions :p). If I thought they were good, then how could I not like them? I There is no such thing as an objective, definite top 10 songs of the century-list.

    Quote from pervythemilkman »
    It means don't just pick all your favorite songs, because if you do, chances are, you're wrong.

    How can you say that? If I say that my favorite song is [insert song title here], do you think anyone can rightly correct me by saying: "No, you are wrong, that song is terrible, and that is that"? If so, that is quite simply distasteful elitism, and nothing more.

    Quote from pervythemilkman »
    Just try to be a little unbiased. Critique songs like the professionals do. A good song is usually determined by melody, length, structure, chord progressions, harmonics, rhythm, lyrics, emotion, production, and the level of impact that it had on things. This should be your basis for posting a song, not "I posted it because it rocks, yeah!!

    Also, I guess some people can't read... the rules clearly state to describe each song and give a reason for being on the list, and to not post lists consisting of one genre...

    I'm not sure if you're actually expecting comprehensive and professional reviews in this thread. I guess I'm a little afraid to post my list now, since after all, I probably have no idea at all what's actually good music, do I? I'm not claiming that I'm an expert at all (rather the opposite, I reside within my genre and am happy where I am, and I don't really explore to find more all that often), but I do not know how to evaluate a song like you require, and I don't think music even needs to be so thoroughly analyzed by the listener.
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  • #13
    Girlfriend - Avril Lavigne

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg59q4puhmg

    While "Complicated" was her breakout hit, this was the first big Billboard hit and really the one that established her as a top artist. While the lyrics may not be particularly deep, they are common enough that many experiencing love and angst can empathize with the sentiment in the song.


    You Belong With Me - Taylor Swift

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuNIsY6JdUw

    This song is just coincidentally listed beneath the one above it; I'm not personally championing songs sung by women who sing about wanting to be with someone who already has a girlfriend, but for better or worse, Taylor Swift really changed the face of country music, proving that she wasn't simply a talented country song writer, but a song writer, period. She could write songs that resonated with her audience and could sell better than any other country artist and better than most other musical artists, regardless of genre.


    Ms. Jackson - OutKast

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYxAiK6VnXw

    Ms. Jackson was groundbreaking, not for the fact that it was drawn from Andre 3000's real life (many rappers draw from their own romantic troubles), but in a rare moment found in rap, it depicted the other side of the story when it comes to divorce and custody battles - the one of a man who tries hard to be a good man and a good father, but can't get any respect from his ex's mother.


    Stan - Eminem

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E

    If Eminem is one of the most prominent rap artists of this current century, then surely "Stan" is the pinnacle of his work, provoking strong emotions from both his fans and his detractors for his powerful lyrics, imagery and stories that he tells in this particular song.


    Bring Me to Life - Evanescence

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxaaGgTQYM

    Poorly planned to grace the film Daredevil, "Bring Me to Life" succeeded despite the film's spectacular failure. The rendition of Amy Lee's biggest song has been done in several styles, but the meaning behind the lyrics has brought much speculation, including explanations of literal interpretations of a person brought back to life, a person brought back from an emotional or spiritual death, or finding one's meaning in life after a dark period.


    Clint Eastwood - Gorillaz

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoQYw49saqc

    It's rap. Or alternative. Or some kind of mix, but Clint Eastwood was different enough to be able to be easily defined. Also, in an era where virtually every recording artist has their picture(s) plastered everywhere, including on the album, and in an industry where often style is paramount over substance, especially when it comes to the outer beauty of an artist, Gorillaz have largely managed to remain hidden and depend only on their quirky nature, innovative use of characters, and catchy songs to rise to success.


    Numb - Linkin Park

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU

    While pervythemilkman makes a compelling case for "Breaking the Habit", "Numb" was perhaps not as favored by Chester, it is arguably far more important to the music industry, topping the charts in two different years. The crossover with Jay-Z's "Encore" further emphasizes the strength of the song to permeate into other genres.

    Chasing Cars - Snow Patrol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemKqzILV4w


    Snow Patrol's biggest hit was almost accidental and owes much of its success to being used as a backdrop for television, but the song is one that manages to be played on rock stations, pop stations, adult contemporary, and soft rock, a rare feat for any song.

    The Bleeding Heart Show - The New Pornographers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrAZSg6hAo

    It's a shame that most people you ask on the street will remember this as the "University of Phoenix commercial" song, but this is a powerful song that starts slowly and builds to a fast finish, reminiscent of Bohemian Rhapsody in its composition.

    Misery Business - Paramore

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCyGvGEtOwc

    Paramore had an earlier album, All We Know is Falling, but most people remember Riot! and this song in particular as bringing them to the public's eye. Not since Hole has a rock group with a female lead enjoyed as much popularity. Women tend to be popular in pop and soft rock, but rarely in rock. (Right now in the top 50 of the Billboard Hot 100 - the female singers currently residing there are: Taylor Swift, Chrisette Michele, Gwyneth Paltrow with the cast of Glee, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj, Jennifer Nettles of Sugarland, Katy Perry, Ke$ha, P1nk, and Willow Smith - that predominately rap and pop where female singers reside.)
  • #14
    Seeing as every single person's opinion is competely biased, lets just do this completely by the populace, shall we? Seeing as everything is opinionated on here, lets make it strictly unbiased, and look at just the numbers. According to iTunes most downloaded:

    http://www.aolradioblog.com/2010/02/25/most-downloaded-itunes-songs/

    So those are the top 10 songs of the history, unbiased, and decided by the populice.
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    ^ Appeal to popularity =/= greatest.

    Appeal to popularity = Logical fallacy

    Edit:
    Quote from pervythemilkman
    Also, I guess some people can't read... the rules clearly state to describe each song and give a reason for being on the list, and to not post lists consisting of one genre...


    Also, I can read, I just don't give a **** about bull**** criteria.
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  • #16
    Elyxr: That list is sickening. ... I Gotta Feeling is so disgustingly braindead. ... It's much more the anthem of this past ten years than American Idiot, though. [IMHO, and yes, that's a shot at this generation. I think 'American Idiot' is far too direct for us, and it's much more of a mid-90's sound. Also, I overplayed that CD and now I can't stand Green Day anymore, but w/e.]
    Anyways ... here's my top 10 list, in no order, with youtube videos to those that aren't ... let's say lyrically violent?
    I'm going to try one artist a song. [I would try one genre a song, but that's fairly impossible.] Am also going to try including as littke 2010 stuff on here as I can. ...
    :

    - Alley Cats [Hot Chip] This song has been generally overlooked, and nobody's listened to it, but it's one of the most musically beautiful songs in the past ten years and, I think, shows a path to keeping instrumentalism in songs even as everything becomes more electronic. It also has the most oddly beautiful duet possibly, you know, ever. The way this song winds around is very nice, and the simple, reletitive beat serves as a nice backdrop for, again, the entrancing lyrics.

    - Bombs over Baghdad [Outkast]
    Foreshadowing a lot of things in current music while showcasing two performers at the top of their respective peaks, I think that Ms. Jackson was more important to the industry but BoB [hah!] is more my kind of song [heh] and is in a style of music much more played: that is, the loud, blown-out style. It's also very topical, which is spreading over music more and more these days.
    OT: I just re-listened to this song. IT IS SO GOOD. ... I remember I was given this on a compilation CD, and this was awesome, and White Lines was awesome, and I just listened to those. :p

    - Jesus Walks [Kanye West]
    This song announced Kanye West to the community at large, and though his other songs afterwards were more popular [because he was being less upfront about his religion? Oh no, religion, better run away from good stuff], this was really the song that introduced him to me as someome to take massive notice to. Not the first song to introduce the soul sample, but the one to use it to the best effect - there are barely any instruments in the track, just people singing, and the effect is incredibly striking. Just a very, very moving track.

    - John Wayne Gacy, Jr. [Sufjan Stevens]
    And now for something completely different[tm]. A beautiful, haunting track about the fragility of life and the way that people can change and be frightening. With some of the most affecting lyrics in recent history and a lightly plucking background that seems to tighten as the song progresses before being let go completely.

    - Infinitum [Flying Lotus]
    This is the most beautiful song of the past ten years, IMHO. Bar none. It's ridiculously simple and monotonous. I don't care. It's just ... I ... I don't even know what to say. The song's beyond words for me in regards to the effect. Musically, a pulsing and repeating bass line is layered over a woman softly repeating the word 'Infinitum', and then as it continues it grows in complexity a tad [maracas are added, the word releating turns into different stretched versions of infinitum, it's split in an incredibly beautiful way] but is still ... just ... there. It's an amazing song. I'm not sure what else to say about it. It's hard to describe musical beauty, as you don't see it, but this song puts me at peace, I guess.

    - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger [Daft Punk]
    This song is ridiculously influential - it gained fame through Kanye West's hit 'Stronger', true, but the song itself was also a great hit and it introduced the entire Daft Punk look w/the two producers and helmets and whatnot, which was ... influential. As for the song, it's a bit repetitive, and I prefer some of their other work over it, but it is an infernally catchy song. It's also a pretty fun comment on the whole modernity movement [if you take it that way]. It also predicts the entire 80's movement. Smile

    - Ize of the World [The Strokes]
    This is my favorite Strokes song [hah, they've gotten more synthy! Go, me], though I did listen to Ask Me Anything for about a month with a really, really depressed face. [Ugh.] This song has a couple Strokes trademarks - the lack of resolution [all their songs don't really end, they are just slices of life in that respect, though they definitely lead you places], the unconventional drums, and the riffs, which was just incredibly catchy. And Julian Castroneves, who is an amazing singer for this band. He probably craps cool. [Note: not when he is solo.]

    - Feel Good Inc. [Gorillaz]
    First off, Gorillaz deserves to be on this list for starting and preceding the digital revolution with a band that is entirely digital. Secondly, Feel Good Inc. is just a dang good song. [I prefer it over Clint Eastwood but they're both great. I like Clint Eastwood's video better though, and Del is awesome everywhere forever. :P] This song has a ridiculously good bassline, and Damon Albarn's depressed megaphone tone sets it up perfectly for the rapping, which is great here. Synth comes in at the perfect time to add drama, and

    - Viva la Vida [Coldplay]
    OK, I got really sick of Coldplay [mainly because they got famous ... why am I sick of them? ... boo me], but I still really like some of their songs. This is one I can't really help but sing along to - the chorus is incredibly catchy, and the whole song just soars because of the strings. The drums are nice and driving, and the way they kind of sneak into the song after the other instruments is clever. And the singer's voice is perfectly suited for it. It's just a great, great song. [Clocks is also great. ... I may switch to that later. Man, I used to love Coldplay. Yellow! Part of it was that I can kind of sing their stuff. :P]

    - I'm going to leave this tenth slot open for a song I've forgotten that I'll remember soon, possibly. I can't think of a tenth right now. Possibly The Birds and the Bees by Patrick and Eugene. Or Meteor by The Bird and the Bee [hah]. Or ... something else. [Maybe The Earth Is Not A Cold Dead Place by EOTS ...]

    I hadn't listened to Stan before! I was such a big fan of Eminem back in ... 2001. -ish. I kept it real quiet because I was a Pokemon dork and I wasn't supposed to be liking rap. Then I overplayed his CD and got tired of him. [This is what I do with everybody.] Ah, memories. :p If I'd heard this at the time I bet I would've liked it better [also: if it was uncensored. Seriously, some lines are just blank].

    Also, my nomination for the worst song of the past ten years is 'Speakers Going Hammer'. I'm not going to link to it. You'll have to trust me on this one.
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  • #17
    Quote from yakusoku

    Stan - Eminem

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E

    If Eminem is one of the most prominent rap artists of this current century, then surely "Stan" is the pinnacle of his work, provoking strong emotions from both his fans and his detractors for his powerful lyrics, imagery and stories that he tells in this particular song.

    I'm glad other people agree with stan. It was one of the first songs that came to mind when I had the idea for this list.

    Numb - Linkin Park

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXYiU_JCYtU

    While pervythemilkman makes a compelling case for "Breaking the Habit", "Numb" was perhaps not as favored by Chester, it is arguably far more important to the music industry, topping the charts in two different years. The crossover with Jay-Z's "Encore" further emphasizes the strength of the song to permeate into other genres.

    I guess we think alike then, because I almost chose numb over breaking the habit. However, breaking the habit has more depth to it, and numb is more of a pop song.


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    Also, I can read, I just don't give a **** about bull**** criteria.

    Don't like the criteria? Don't post here. Make your own thread. Plus metal already has it's own thread, plenty of room to talk about the best metal bands there. One genre of music isn't the best, and a true top 10 list has to be diverse, with reasoning behind it.
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  • #18
    Nah, I think I'll just keep my posted list up here. And I did post my reasoning. If you'd like it if I posted why the other albums are the best as well though, I could edit that in.

    Don't like my post, you could just report it, you know.
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  • #19
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    The whole idea of having ten favorite songs is kinda lame tbh. It's like people compiling their favorite scenes from various movies and not even talking about the rest of the movie. The only correct way to listen to music is by the album.

    It depends on the album. Some albums are similar to movies, and the scene analogy is valid. But many are more similar to collections of short stories.

    And even with concept albums I often listen to certain songs only. The experience of hearing the concept in its entirety may be worthwhile, but the question is whether it can hold up against listening to the subpar tracks each time.

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    People that listen to only singles really bug me.

    I don't listen to singles only. I listen to the entire album, but then I pick what I like and ditch what I don't. In some rare instances this can even be part of a song.

    Quote from pervythemilkman »
    It means don't just pick all your favorite songs, because if you do, chances are, you're wrong. Just try to be a little unbiased. Critique songs like the professionals do. A good song is usually determined by melody, length, structure, chord progressions, harmonics, rhythm, lyrics, emotion, production, and the level of impact that it had on things. This should be your basis for posting a song, not "I posted it because it rocks, yeah!!"

    Such a reductionistic approach to music is disgusting. And still, all those criteria are for a major part subjective (and there is no possible way to give them weights as to how much they contribute to overall "greatness"). Even the impact it had on "things".

    This list is meant to be challenging, not just "here are 10 songs that I like, kthxbai."

    That's the only thing this list could ever hope to be. This does not make it useless: people who see some of their favorite songs appearing on others's lists may find other music to their liking by checking out the other songs on those lists.
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  • #20
    In no order...

    Crack The Skye - Mastodon
    Death and the Healing - Wintersun
    Eternal Wait - Ensiferum
    Arms Raised - Close Your Eyes
    The Press Corpse - Anti Flag (A REAL political song...)
    Ocean of Apathy - August Burns Red
    With Me Tonight - The Used
    Mana - Equilibrium
    Egonomic - In Flames
    Strength of the World - Avenged Sevenfold

    P.S. It makes no sense to say "century" when only including a decade.
  • #22
    I dunno. Probably just me, but I detect little, if any filler on albums I listen to. If an album has even half poor songs, I scrap the album, since IMO it's a poor album.
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  • #24
    I agree on the analog vs digital part. I find analog generally has a warmer sound.

    And on the more extreme end of things, one of my pet peeves, is that I really dislike super squeaky-clean production myself, production that sounds glossy to the point of utter sterility. There are exceptions, but gimme a great, unpolished, raw-as-**** album any day.
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  • #25
    I agree, the song in no means is good at all. Just so everyone knows, i dislike every song on that list, the only one that is pretty good at all is perhaps viva la vida. Perhaps.

    However, how else can we describe the "top 10" or "best" songs of this century without looking directly at the numbers/opinions of everyone?? Sure, we may believe that there are better songs (i certainly do) but this is truly the only unbiased way to do it. By the charts.

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  • #26
    Reposting to emphasize my point:

    Quote from TheButt
    ^ Appeal to popularity =/= greatest.

    Appeal to popularity = Logical fallacy.
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    Well, you've still got about fourteen hours before you're infracted for noncompliance. Talk to whomever you want.
  • #27
    Please explain to me why my argument is invalid, please do not just post
    You're wrong.post

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  • #29
    Quote from The_Muffin_Man

    P.S. It makes no sense to say "century" when only including a decade.

    Yes it does, if you want to include 2010.

    Quote from ludd_gang

    BTW, I still think analog sounds better than digital. But 'tis gone daddy gone. Frown

    Of course analog sounds better than digital. Our human ears can't hear digital, that's why the computer converts digital into analog, and analog is what comes out of the speakers.

    I know what you mean though, you think music recorded on an analog tape reel sounds better than music recorded on pro tools. As a recording engineer, I respectfully disagree. Pro tools gives you a much clearer sound. It lets the sound have more depth, and all the parts can be heard by the listener. It is the difference between vinyl and CDs.

    One of the amazing things about this century is all the technology we have available. I can't listen to the Beatles because the production is simply awful compared to the technology we have today. Once I listen to that crystal clear sound, I can't go back to listening to anything else, especially since I've worked around it constantly.
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