Cast for the main four: Kristen Wiig, Melissa McCarthy, Leslie Jones and Kate McKinnon
Director: Feig
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I have zero confidence that this isn't going to be just another stupid bro-movie/whatever the female gendered equivalent term is movie like bridesmaids, hangover, etc. I don't enjoy that style movie. Ghostbusters isn't that style movie.
Ghostbusters wasn't a 'bro' movie? It was almost entirely sex-related/destruction/gross out humor. There is a ghost ******** scene. I re-watched it with the wife, who had never seen it and was bored to tears.
I think thats fair in a sense. It's a bro- movie in the 80's sense. I watched it, and still re-watch it and love it. I try watching movies like the hangover and bridesmaids etc, and it's a totally different vibe.
Perhaps it's the pg-13 rating that does it -- but in Ghostbusters there's all of 1 raunchy joke (Ray's Dream), and even that is a bit flat.
I can only see this going tow ways 1) A forced recreation of the first movie, with actors not being allowed to play the characters they are good at, but being locked into the roles Akroyed, Murray, Hudson, and Ramis were good at. or 2) The type of movie McCarthy is good at, which, from what I've seen, is raunchy potty humor. In the first case, its likely to be *bad*. In the second case, I won't like it even if it's good for that type of movie.
To be honest, my reaction is largely to Feig / McCarthy. I *hate* the obnoxious fat guy/girl character (yes, that applies to Beluschi), and I hate "rauchy" comedy.
Ghostbusters wasn't a 'bro' movie? It was almost entirely sex-related/destruction/gross out humor. There is a ghost ******** scene. I re-watched it with the wife, who had never seen it and was bored to tears.
In 2 full movies, there is 1 sex joke. The "gross out" jokes are tame and mostly involve generic "slime".
There is so much more to the orignial movies than sex/destruction/gross out humor...
In 2 full movies, there is 1 sex joke. The "gross out" jokes are tame and mostly involve generic "slime".
There is so much more to the orignial movies than sex/destruction/gross out humor...
As far as I know, it's going to be a different plot.
Let me be clear, I LOVE Ghostbusters, but a lot of that is nostalgia-colored. It is very well written and clever, but it's still a bro movie, 80's style. 60% of Bill Murray's lines are him hitting on a woman or sexual innuendo. One of the main gags of the film is the creepy guy basically stalking Sigourney Weaver's character.
Guys..what part of we're replacing guy parts with girl parts don't you understand. It's the ultimate twist! Well worth the wait.
/sarcasm
Also, don't try to put Ghostbusters on some sort of pedestal. I love Bill Murray as much as the next guy, but I have no illusions as to what kind of movies were being churned out in the '80s.
Hold on now, I don't think anyone is comparing it to Citizen Kane here, but let's not undersell it either. Ghostbusters is still IMHO one of the best comedic films of all time.
As for the re-make, I really like Kristen Wiig and Kate McKinnon. So that gives me some optimism. Melissa McCarthy, I think I'm on the same page as bLatch in that I don't find the obnoxious characters she plays in movies to be funny. Leslie Jones I don't think I've seen before. I am willing to give this movie a fair chance just because I love Ghostbusters and I really enjoy well-written comedies. So hopefully this will be one of those. But it's going to have to work extra hard to not get labelled as either "Bridesmaids with proton packs" or a lame re-hash of the original.
Edit: Also what is a "bro movie"? I thought I kind of understood what it meant, but then I did a google search and saw Interstellar and The Hobbit on a list of best bro movies of 2014 and now I have no idea what it's supposed to convey other than that it kind of sounds like it's meant to be derogatory (like "chick flick").
Neither Tina Fey nor Wanda Sykes were casted, neither did deGeneres.
Instead we got a bunch of people who at best give me a 'less funny' Rosie O'Donnell vibe when it comes to comedy... so yeah. Im expecting the reboot to be no more good than the Flintstones movie.
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Neither Tina Fey nor Wanda Sykes were casted, neither did deGeneres.
Ghostbusters doesn't really strike me as their style of humor. I'm sure they could all pull it off - they're really good at their jobs - but they're not the first names that would have come to mind for me. I'm looking at comediennes who are more... weird. Kristen Schaal, Judy Greer, Portia di Rossi, Chelsea Peretti - names like that.
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This sounds like they are going to ruin it like they did with Robocop. They did a total remake for Robocop instead of saying it is a sequel, but it still ruins the movie.
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Wanda Sykes definitely can nail Wilson... and he was the most grounded out of all the members of the team.
Fey's strength has always been in how she can deliver 'straight' slaptstick humor, which is how i always saw Murray's character, someone who realizes how opportunistic something is and has the snake oil seller gall to act like he believes it (i mean even when he believes he doesnt really believe), and i think Fey can play that to a 'T' better and more naturally than the currently selected choices.
I will admit im just saying deGeneres should be in this because I will never get over Dory...
As for your selections, i can recognize some of the names but for the life of me I can't put a face to them right now... ill try to look them up once im home...
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Wanda Sykes definitely can nail Wilson... and he was the most grounded out of all the members of the team.
Winston, not Wilson Winston's role in the original was to be a straightman, and to provide the non-academic POV. He gets hired in halfway through the movie without having the PhD's the other have with the statement "I'll believe anything you want me to if there's a steady paycheck in it".
With that in mind, despite not particularly liking (or disliking.. more neutral) either Wanda or Ellen, I think they both could pull off that position admirably. But, again, we fall into the trap of casting the original four Ghostbusters as women. We're not making a new movie, we're forcing women into the slots filled by the original four. If anything is a recipe for disaster... it's that.
Edit: Also what is a "bro movie"? I thought I kind of understood what it meant, but then I did a google search and saw Interstellar and The Hobbit on a list of best bro movies of 2014 and now I have no idea what it's supposed to convey other than that it kind of sounds like it's meant to be derogatory (like "chick flick").
Ditto. I always interpreted "bro movie" as a movie directed towards and generally about stereotypical frat boy esque "bros"-- movies like the hangover, etc.
Winston, not Wilson Winston's role in the original was to be a straightman, and to provide the non-academic POV. He gets hired in halfway through the movie without having the PhD's the other have with the statement "I'll believe anything you want me to if there's a steady paycheck in it".
With that in mind, despite not particularly liking (or disliking.. more neutral) either Wanda or Ellen, I think they both could pull off that position admirably. But, again, we fall into the trap of casting the original four Ghostbusters as women. We're not making a new movie, we're forcing women into the slots filled by the original four. If anything is a recipe for disaster... it's that.
This. (Although I think a Kristen Schaal character would end up a lot like Ray.) Also, it's 2015. About time for the black one to get some jokes.
Besides, if we were casting a black straightwoman to play the voice of reason off a cast of narcissistic screwballs... Archer's Aisha Tyler is the only choice.
Ditto. I always interpreted "bro movie" as a movie directed towards and generally about stereotypical frat boy esque "bros"-- movies like the hangover, etc.
I'd define it as "a group of male friends - sympathetic but without traditional heroic qualities - experience a series of misadventures largely instigated by their own poor judgment." Ghostbusters thoroughly qualifies.
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Winston, not Wilson Winston's role in the original was to be a straightman, and to provide the non-academic POV. He gets hired in halfway through the movie without having the PhD's the other have with the statement "I'll believe anything you want me to if there's a steady paycheck in it".
With that in mind, despite not particularly liking (or disliking.. more neutral) either Wanda or Ellen, I think they both could pull off that position admirably. But, again, we fall into the trap of casting the original four Ghostbusters as women. We're not making a new movie, we're forcing women into the slots filled by the original four. If anything is a recipe for disaster... it's that.
This. (Although I think a Kristen Schaal character would end up a lot like Ray.) Also, it's 2015. About time for the black one to get some jokes.
To be fair, Winston doesn't even show up until halfway through and he still gets the best line in the film ("When someone asks if you're a god you say 'Yes'"). I agree with you that Kristen Schaal would have been perfect for this.
To be fair, Winston doesn't even show up until halfway through and he still gets the best line in the film ("When someone asks if you're a god you say 'Yes'").
Isn't that Venkman's line?
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To be fair, Winston doesn't even show up until halfway through and he still gets the best line in the film ("When someone asks if you're a god you say 'Yes'").
For me the idea was that they are likely gonna keep the essence of the prior characters as they shift into the female cast, not that they are gonna carbon copy the role only gender-swapped.
That's why my line of reasoning for the roles was along the lines of "well who would best synergize with the concept this character represented?"
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Cast for the main four: Kristen Wiig, Melissa McCarthy, Leslie Jones and Kate McKinnon
Director: Feig
One less butt in the seats: bLatch
I have zero confidence that this isn't going to be just another stupid bro-movie/whatever the female gendered equivalent term is movie like bridesmaids, hangover, etc. I don't enjoy that style movie. Ghostbusters isn't that style movie.
Blech.
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Perhaps it's the pg-13 rating that does it -- but in Ghostbusters there's all of 1 raunchy joke (Ray's Dream), and even that is a bit flat.
I can only see this going tow ways 1) A forced recreation of the first movie, with actors not being allowed to play the characters they are good at, but being locked into the roles Akroyed, Murray, Hudson, and Ramis were good at. or 2) The type of movie McCarthy is good at, which, from what I've seen, is raunchy potty humor. In the first case, its likely to be *bad*. In the second case, I won't like it even if it's good for that type of movie.
To be honest, my reaction is largely to Feig / McCarthy. I *hate* the obnoxious fat guy/girl character (yes, that applies to Beluschi), and I hate "rauchy" comedy.
In 2 full movies, there is 1 sex joke. The "gross out" jokes are tame and mostly involve generic "slime".
There is so much more to the orignial movies than sex/destruction/gross out humor...
As far as I know, it's going to be a different plot.
Let me be clear, I LOVE Ghostbusters, but a lot of that is nostalgia-colored. It is very well written and clever, but it's still a bro movie, 80's style. 60% of Bill Murray's lines are him hitting on a woman or sexual innuendo. One of the main gags of the film is the creepy guy basically stalking Sigourney Weaver's character.
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/sarcasm
Also, don't try to put Ghostbusters on some sort of pedestal. I love Bill Murray as much as the next guy, but I have no illusions as to what kind of movies were being churned out in the '80s.
As for the re-make, I really like Kristen Wiig and Kate McKinnon. So that gives me some optimism. Melissa McCarthy, I think I'm on the same page as bLatch in that I don't find the obnoxious characters she plays in movies to be funny. Leslie Jones I don't think I've seen before. I am willing to give this movie a fair chance just because I love Ghostbusters and I really enjoy well-written comedies. So hopefully this will be one of those. But it's going to have to work extra hard to not get labelled as either "Bridesmaids with proton packs" or a lame re-hash of the original.
Edit: Also what is a "bro movie"? I thought I kind of understood what it meant, but then I did a google search and saw Interstellar and The Hobbit on a list of best bro movies of 2014 and now I have no idea what it's supposed to convey other than that it kind of sounds like it's meant to be derogatory (like "chick flick").
Instead we got a bunch of people who at best give me a 'less funny' Rosie O'Donnell vibe when it comes to comedy... so yeah. Im expecting the reboot to be no more good than the Flintstones movie.
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Fey's strength has always been in how she can deliver 'straight' slaptstick humor, which is how i always saw Murray's character, someone who realizes how opportunistic something is and has the snake oil seller gall to act like he believes it (i mean even when he believes he doesnt really believe), and i think Fey can play that to a 'T' better and more naturally than the currently selected choices.
I will admit im just saying deGeneres should be in this because I will never get over Dory...
As for your selections, i can recognize some of the names but for the life of me I can't put a face to them right now... ill try to look them up once im home...
Winston, not Wilson Winston's role in the original was to be a straightman, and to provide the non-academic POV. He gets hired in halfway through the movie without having the PhD's the other have with the statement "I'll believe anything you want me to if there's a steady paycheck in it".
With that in mind, despite not particularly liking (or disliking.. more neutral) either Wanda or Ellen, I think they both could pull off that position admirably. But, again, we fall into the trap of casting the original four Ghostbusters as women. We're not making a new movie, we're forcing women into the slots filled by the original four. If anything is a recipe for disaster... it's that.
Ditto. I always interpreted "bro movie" as a movie directed towards and generally about stereotypical frat boy esque "bros"-- movies like the hangover, etc.
Besides, if we were casting a black straightwoman to play the voice of reason off a cast of narcissistic screwballs... Archer's Aisha Tyler is the only choice.
[/quote] I'd define it as "a group of male friends - sympathetic but without traditional heroic qualities - experience a series of misadventures largely instigated by their own poor judgment." Ghostbusters thoroughly qualifies.
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To be fair, Winston doesn't even show up until halfway through and he still gets the best line in the film ("When someone asks if you're a god you say 'Yes'"). I agree with you that Kristen Schaal would have been perfect for this.
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Nope, it's Winston. Granted, I could certainly imagine Venkman delivering it too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfdiXBA7f6U
For me the idea was that they are likely gonna keep the essence of the prior characters as they shift into the female cast, not that they are gonna carbon copy the role only gender-swapped.
That's why my line of reasoning for the roles was along the lines of "well who would best synergize with the concept this character represented?"