I've gotta say, the original Sin City is in my top 5 movies. So naturally, I was really hyped about Sin City 2. It didn't quite live up to my excitement level, but I definitely enjoyed it. A few things:
The opening story just wasn't as compelling as the original's opening story, nor did it wrap up the way it began, which is a device I enjoy seeing used in plenty of mediums.
I also didn't feel like the way the stories flowed was nearly as fluid as that of the original. Additionally, A Dame to Kill For lacked the perfect blend of action and narrative that Sin City had, choosing more action over good storytelling.
All of that said, I still thought it was a good movie - Johnny's story was my favorite, and it was excellent to see the return of many old characters (even though Marv wasn't nearly as compelling this time around).
There was one thing that confused me somewhat, but I figured it out after a while.
The timeline. I recognize that a lot of the stories occurred before and after the stories from the first movie, but I was still confused at when what occurred. I know that Marv was in the bar when Hartigan came to see Nancy, which makes sense, because Kevin was still alive at the time - I was just thrown off by the distance of Marv's death from the rest of the storyline.
I'm also really curious as to who Manute's "new master" is in the original Sin City - perhaps the ugly, misshapen guy from Dwight's story that Eva tried to strike a deal with near the end?
The fact that Dwight was played by a different actor also made me go, "Wha? Is there another Dwight?" until they dropped his last name and I was like, "Oh. Okay." And then they kind of explain that, but in a questionable way, IMO.
Anyway, who else has seen this movie already? Your thoughts?
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Saw it last week. LOVE Johnny, shame that he had to die no matter what.
The plot should focus a bit more on Nancy - I thought the portion about her seeking revenge would be much greater.
I'm not really a huge Frank Miller comic movie fan. I didn't really care for 300, The Spirit thought it was way too profound for it's own sake. That being said, I somewhat enjoyed the first Sin City movie. It was like the cinematic equivalent of eating a roll of cookie dough: indulgent, a huge guilty pleasure, and something you don't want other people who aren't in the know catching you doing.
I did NOT care for this movie as much as I thought I might. I think my initial distaste of this movie comes from how pathetic the acting is all over the place. I understand that it's trying to be over-acted on purpose and have that 1950s era Film Noir terse dialogue, but it comes across as bloated and way too wordy. It took simple narration and turned it into a Dickens-esque deconstruction of a simple action. It's the only movie I've seen where "I fell from the top floor and hit the ground" took well over five lines of dialogue. Again, the first movie had this to an extent, but it was bearable. I think that comes from the lack of actual good acting in this movie. I hear lots of people going on and on about Eva Green here and, personally, I thought she over acted and was so boring. I've seen the femme fatale role done so much better and she really added nothing to it. Cliched motives, stupid and once again, cliched plot twists concerning her character...been there, done that. And the movie flaunts her story around like it found a new writing style for film; 'EVERY SCRIPT WRITER TAKE NOTICE THIS IS GROUNDBREAKING STUFF HERE!!" Yawn. Josh Brolin's character almost made me walk right out of the film. Oh please guy, take a chill pill or smoke a fattie...get the **** over this chick.
Also, what the **** was Joseph Gordin-Levitt doing here? I felt like his story was so shoehorned in and so stupid that it didn't really do anything for me. Yes, it expanded Senator Roark's character and turned him more into a villain, but if that's all it existed for, why waste what was basically 10 minutes from the main story and put it into this?
And don't even get me started on that horrible ending and the Jessica Alba nonsense at the end. ******* pointless. "But it concludes the main story from the first film!" Oh please. If you actually paid attention and appreciated good writing and weren't a ham-handed writer like Miller was for these films, that story was summed up nicely in the first film.
Also, why taut around that you have BRUCE WILLIS and CHRISTOPHER LLOYD and STANLEY TUCCI (you know, decent character actors) and give them basically first billing when they are in the film for like five minutes a piece? I actually looked forward to Stanley Tucci's role, until I noticed I hadn't seen him and I ask one of my friends where he was. "Oh, he's been shot already...." However, it was worth it to hear Doc Brown swear up and down like a sailor.
Lady GaGa makes a cameo and she does her obnoxious fake New York accent, trying to sound like Marrisa Tomei from My Cousin Vinny. Nothing really else to say here. It's as bad as you think it is.
I really did not like this movie at all. It was stylish though, and all the gore visuals looked awesome as always. But, at the end of the day, just because the movie is flashy, there's a big cast, and the effects are cool, it doesn't mean the movie is any good. Skip.
I didn't pay full price for it, so it was somewhat alright. It could have been better and some of Eva Green's overacting was killing me through the screen.
The opening story just wasn't as compelling as the original's opening story, nor did it wrap up the way it began, which is a device I enjoy seeing used in plenty of mediums.
I also didn't feel like the way the stories flowed was nearly as fluid as that of the original. Additionally, A Dame to Kill For lacked the perfect blend of action and narrative that Sin City had, choosing more action over good storytelling.
All of that said, I still thought it was a good movie - Johnny's story was my favorite, and it was excellent to see the return of many old characters (even though Marv wasn't nearly as compelling this time around).
There was one thing that confused me somewhat, but I figured it out after a while.
I'm also really curious as to who Manute's "new master" is in the original Sin City - perhaps the ugly, misshapen guy from Dwight's story that Eva tried to strike a deal with near the end?
The fact that Dwight was played by a different actor also made me go, "Wha? Is there another Dwight?" until they dropped his last name and I was like, "Oh. Okay." And then they kind of explain that, but in a questionable way, IMO.
Anyway, who else has seen this movie already? Your thoughts?
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2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
The plot should focus a bit more on Nancy - I thought the portion about her seeking revenge would be much greater.
I'm pretty sure the bit about Dwight having plastic surgery on his face was in the original comic books too
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I did NOT care for this movie as much as I thought I might. I think my initial distaste of this movie comes from how pathetic the acting is all over the place. I understand that it's trying to be over-acted on purpose and have that 1950s era Film Noir terse dialogue, but it comes across as bloated and way too wordy. It took simple narration and turned it into a Dickens-esque deconstruction of a simple action. It's the only movie I've seen where "I fell from the top floor and hit the ground" took well over five lines of dialogue. Again, the first movie had this to an extent, but it was bearable. I think that comes from the lack of actual good acting in this movie. I hear lots of people going on and on about Eva Green here and, personally, I thought she over acted and was so boring. I've seen the femme fatale role done so much better and she really added nothing to it. Cliched motives, stupid and once again, cliched plot twists concerning her character...been there, done that. And the movie flaunts her story around like it found a new writing style for film; 'EVERY SCRIPT WRITER TAKE NOTICE THIS IS GROUNDBREAKING STUFF HERE!!" Yawn. Josh Brolin's character almost made me walk right out of the film. Oh please guy, take a chill pill or smoke a fattie...get the **** over this chick.
Also, what the **** was Joseph Gordin-Levitt doing here? I felt like his story was so shoehorned in and so stupid that it didn't really do anything for me. Yes, it expanded Senator Roark's character and turned him more into a villain, but if that's all it existed for, why waste what was basically 10 minutes from the main story and put it into this?
And don't even get me started on that horrible ending and the Jessica Alba nonsense at the end. ******* pointless. "But it concludes the main story from the first film!" Oh please. If you actually paid attention and appreciated good writing and weren't a ham-handed writer like Miller was for these films, that story was summed up nicely in the first film.
Also, why taut around that you have BRUCE WILLIS and CHRISTOPHER LLOYD and STANLEY TUCCI (you know, decent character actors) and give them basically first billing when they are in the film for like five minutes a piece? I actually looked forward to Stanley Tucci's role, until I noticed I hadn't seen him and I ask one of my friends where he was. "Oh, he's been shot already...." However, it was worth it to hear Doc Brown swear up and down like a sailor.
Lady GaGa makes a cameo and she does her obnoxious fake New York accent, trying to sound like Marrisa Tomei from My Cousin Vinny. Nothing really else to say here. It's as bad as you think it is.
I really did not like this movie at all. It was stylish though, and all the gore visuals looked awesome as always. But, at the end of the day, just because the movie is flashy, there's a big cast, and the effects are cool, it doesn't mean the movie is any good. Skip.
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