So the first official trailer has aired... and it looks pretty amazing. I love that the movie doesn't take itself too seriously, and that it plays off the fact that they're rather obscure characters. Looks great! It's also pretty much the only way this movie would work.
I think this is Marvel's riskiest movie by far. Weird pulpy space adventures are a pretty niche market, and this has no big-name characters to draw audiences. (I think if I were planning how to introduce cosmic Marvel to their cinematic universe, I would have started with a loose adaptation of Planet Hulk or something.) Hopefully they paid close attention to Disney's John Carter and learned something from that box office trainwreck.
I think this is Marvel's riskiest movie by far. Weird pulpy space adventures are a pretty niche market, and this has no big-name characters to draw audiences. (I think if I were planning how to introduce cosmic Marvel to their cinematic universe, I would have started with a loose adaptation of Planet Hulk or something.) Hopefully they paid close attention to Disney's John Carter and learned something from that box office trainwreck.
I agree that it's risky, but I think there a few key differences between the two, for instance this movie has far more recognizable actors than even any of the previous Marvel movies, Marvel already has a brand established for fun action movies, the tone of the film seems to recognize the silliness of a lot of the aspects of the film. The title also tells you what you need to know, unlike John Carter which could just as easily be the title for a movie about a football coach. Overall I think it'll be far more successful if only for the Marvel brand, but if you need more, shirtless ripped Chris Pratt will help sell the female audience (not joking, all the ladies in my social circle will want to see it after watching the trailer).
Side note: Apparently the Toy Solicitations for the movie include Sakaaran soliders. Here is hoping for another Hulk movie about Planet Hulk.
Yeah, I was amazed to read comments from some people that were disappointed with this trailer. You need a trailer like this when 99% of the people on earth roughly have no freaking clue who these characters are. I personally read comic books religiously from about 1992-1995 and have only a vague knowledge of who these characters are.
This was the perfect way to introduce entirely new characters that didn't even show up as cameos in any previous marvel movie.
I didn't know about this one, now I'm excited (I actually have about a dozen or so issues of Guardians of the Galaxy from a couple years ago).
I think they made a wise decision in deciding to embrace the comedy aspects of the idea and just have fun with it. Chris Pratt might be the perfect choice for this role. He gives off a kind of goofy-average-guy-next-door vibe, but comes with an excellent comedy rep from Parks and Rec, and hey he's also ripped.
As long as it looks fun (and so far so good), and the actual writing of the film itself holds up, I think this one will do well.
I like the direction this movie is taking based off the trailer. Though I really want to see it just for Benicio Del Toro's interpretation of the Collector first seen at the end of Thor 2 credits. His quirky mannerism really appealed to me.
Well its a risky space movie with an over the top, almost campy, atmosphere and a giant sentient tree played by Vin Diesel.... this is sending so many mixed signals as far as quality
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I think this is Marvel's riskiest movie by far. Weird pulpy space adventures are a pretty niche market, and this has no big-name characters to draw audiences. (I think if I were planning how to introduce cosmic Marvel to their cinematic universe, I would have started with a loose adaptation of Planet Hulk or something.) Hopefully they paid close attention to Disney's John Carter and learned something from that box office trainwreck.
Wouldnt it need to be pretty loose?
I seem to remember Banner barely being in that story and the premise depend on the Illuminati
I think this can movie can be a bust. Dont get me wrong I love space movies and this trailer is very promising but it could become a laugh or I shoot movie.
Nobody is denying that, i mean if a Marvel movie is going to bust then chances are this is the one to do it,... that being said I personally expect it to be a hit... oh wait there's also an ant-man movie coming up.... hmmm ok two movies having the chance to be a bust...
Still optimistic about this one.
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Concerning the comparison to John Carter, I think people fail to realize the power of marketing.
John Carter (much like this summers Lone Ranger) had terrible promotional material. The previews weren't entertaining and the push for the film fell flat around release. There was no hype and no manipulation. Now, compare that to the most financially successful film of all time, Avatar. A weird space adventure! The trailers were interesting and the marketing promised us something we'd never imagined before, even if the story itself was rubbish.
This is a great preview. It's fun, it made me laugh, it made me like Starlord right off the bat and if I know there's a likable character from the preview then I'm sold. If you can make non-comic geeks laugh at your preview (my wife for example), then you've got a decent shot. Marketing can make or break a film.
I think this is Marvel's riskiest movie by far. Weird pulpy space adventures are a pretty niche market, and this has no big-name characters to draw audiences. (I think if I were planning how to introduce cosmic Marvel to their cinematic universe, I would have started with a loose adaptation of Planet Hulk or something.) Hopefully they paid close attention to Disney's John Carter and learned something from that box office trainwreck.
Wouldnt it need to be pretty loose?
I seem to remember Banner barely being in that story and the premise depend on the Illuminati
I was thinking "loose" as in what The Dark Knight is to The Killing Joke.
As a resident Hulk-fiend, I'd have to say that they did a decent job with the story in the animated Planet Hulk film. The premise doesn't rely on the Illuminati, just the idea that the Hulk is enough of a threat to send off planet by the heroes. The story can just as easily gloss over that part and take the 'Hulk in Space gets sent through a wormhole' and play it straight.
Of course, I don't want a straight adaptation either, because it was a 14-issue story arc which culminated in the event World War Hulk and all the dangling plot threads weren't resolved until after the Dark Son storyline.
Concerning the comparison to John Carter, I think people fail to realize the power of marketing.
John Carter (much like this summers Lone Ranger) had terrible promotional material. The previews weren't entertaining and the push for the film fell flat around release. There was no hype and no manipulation. Now, compare that to the most financially successful film of all time, Avatar. A weird space adventure! The trailers were interesting and the marketing promised us something we'd never imagined before, even if the story itself was rubbish.
This is a great preview. It's fun, it made me laugh, it made me like Starlord right off the bat and if I know there's a likable character from the preview then I'm sold. If you can make non-comic geeks laugh at your preview (my wife for example), then you've got a decent shot. Marketing can make or break a film.
That's sort of what I was getting at. This trailer is doing pretty much exactly the opposite of the disastrous John Carter trailers: clearly explaining who these people are and what they're doing in space. I think they probably autopsied John Carter pretty closely.
Also, I didn't actually think The Lone Ranger's promotional material was that bad. Pretty much the same action-shots-and-Johnny-Depp-weirdness stuff that propelled Pirates of the Caribbean to smash success. That movie failed on its own horribleness.
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Showed my wife the trailer last night. Since she knows nothing about comics in general except the movies, I figured she was a good test case. She said it was funny (she actually laughed during the trailer, which she rarely does even for straight comedies), but the only reason she's going to see it is because I want to see it (otherwise it might have just been a renter for her).
I think my Farscape fandom is coloring my perception, but at least it's got funny going for it.
Also, I didn't actually think The Lone Ranger's promotional material was that bad. Pretty much the same action-shots-and-Johnny-Depp-weirdness stuff that propelled Pirates of the Caribbean to smash success. That movie failed on its own horribleness.
Honestly, I feel the Johnny Depp is collapsing under his own weight. People are getting Johnny Depp fatigue, and Johnny Depp as an American Indian just turned off almost everyone I know.
I think my Farscape fandom is coloring my perception, but at least it's got funny going for it.
Yeah, I got a major Farscape vibe from the trailer. They both portray a group of misfits, each with a massive baggage of issues, who try to be heroes in their own way even if it is not exactly in their nature. The final line of the trailer summed it up for me. They are the "heroes" but "what a bunch of A-holes".
Concerning the comparison to John Carter, I think people fail to realize the power of marketing.
John Carter (much like this summers Lone Ranger) had terrible promotional material. The previews weren't entertaining and the push for the film fell flat around release. There was no hype and no manipulation. Now, compare that to the most financially successful film of all time, Avatar. A weird space adventure! The trailers were interesting and the marketing promised us something we'd never imagined before, even if the story itself was rubbish.
This is a great preview. It's fun, it made me laugh, it made me like Starlord right off the bat and if I know there's a likable character from the preview then I'm sold. If you can make non-comic geeks laugh at your preview (my wife for example), then you've got a decent shot. Marketing can make or break a film.
That's sort of what I was getting at. This trailer is doing pretty much exactly the opposite of the disastrous John Carter trailers: clearly explaining who these people are and what they're doing in space. I think they probably autopsied John Carter pretty closely.
Also, I didn't actually think The Lone Ranger's promotional material was that bad. Pretty much the same action-shots-and-Johnny-Depp-weirdness stuff that propelled Pirates of the Caribbean to smash success. That movie failed on its own horribleness.
I don't know, at least in the Pirates films and promos Johnny Depp is charming and funny. In The Lone Ranger he was stoic and boring (bored looking?). You could tell the story was a sloppy mess based on the Lone Ranger trailer alone.
Saw this at a preview on Wednesday. This is probably the funniest thing I'll see this year. My only real complaint is that Zoe Saldana's acting was lukewarm and wooden at times and it made Gamora slightly less amazing. Bautista is this movie's secret weapon and many of his lines will be quoted at many LGS this summer. Go see it! Also, there was no secret tidbit at the end of the preview so if it exists at the end of the regular release please post it, in spoiler tags of course.
-The Collector's part in this is very brief yet seems like it will have a big impact on the MCU. As of GotG we have three Infinity Stones: the Cosmic Cube, the Aether, and the Orb(or at least was inside it). His collection is blown up and we know the Aether from Thor 2 is there. I think the Asgardian's have the Cosmic Cube but since they gave the Aether to The Collector they could have also handed that off as well.
-Thanos' Chitauri gimp got no love. I wonder if Alexis Denisof reprised his role as chief gimp. I couldn't really tell it was him in The Avenger in the first place though.
-The baby Groot at the end was amazing. I want one!
-Favorite Drax quote(you'll have one too): "Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too quick."
it mostly confirms that, yes, this film is a love letter to everything George Lucas has ever touched and I said "man, all they are missing is Howard the Duck and it will reference everything the mans ever done since Ronin is basically vader. The lightning effects in the film look JUST like the ones in ROTJ, people get shot during grandstanding, all kinds of star warsy indiana jonesy stuff happens. Hell, even some of the alien world shots are straight from THXwhatever.
So I say "man, all we need now is howard the duck and everything Lucas has ever touched will be here" and, lo and behold, that end credits sequence...
Saw the movie last night. Simply amazing. I haven't laughed that hard during a movie (legitimately) in ages. I highly recommend people seeing it in the theaters, you wont be disappointed :).
The Winter Soldier is a better film, imo (I personally think it is the best Marvel film to date), but The Guardians of the Galaxy is my favorite Marvel film to date. It is more entertaining than The Avengers. By Far.
The plot is simple, but that's because the plot isn't the point of the film. The point is to introduce the more "out-there" aspects of the Marvel universe, and to form the Guardians as a solid team. And I think it succeeded brilliantly in that.
The movie didn't bother to throw in a lot of technical canon stuff. No need to. We know that aliens exists beyond simply being generic bad guys like in The Avengers, that there are things called the Infinity Stones that bestow god-like powers, and that Thanos is said to be the most powerful being in the known galaxy, and that he wants the stones.
And Chris Pratt is a ******* awesome in the film. He can easily take the lead once the galaxy meets Earth. In fact, I get the feeling that is the direction they want to head towards. Star Lord is literally an offspring of both Earth (the familiar) and the "other". I think they're going to use Guardians as the way to introduce the galaxy to Earth, and that they will become an integral part of the MCU.
In short... No need for RDJ to be the MCU's leading man anymore. It certainly helps that the vast majority of the Guardians are CGI characters.
I guess I'm in the very small minority, but I really wasn't that impressed with this movie. Like it wasn't..bad. It was fine. But everyone is just raving about it, including some claims of it being 'Marvel's best movie' and 'as good as the original Star Wars' trilogy.
In my mind, it was just nothing special. The characters had some amusing dialogue, but nothing particularly meaningful. The plot was super generic, and the villain was a complete and utter one-trick pony that you never learn anything about. The characters kind of developed, but not in an organic or believable way. Drax seemed to be the deepest character, and he had minimal dialogue. I wish I'd waited until it was available on video to watch it. I would rank it behind Winter Soldier, Avengers, Iron Man 1 & 3 in terms of level of quality.
What really stood out to make me realize that I was unimpressed was the fact that Groot 'dying' didn't phase me at all. And the way that they kill Ronin was completely cheesy and devoid of any kind of intellectual appeal.
I would argue that as far as dialogue and depth goes Groot beats Drax by a huge margin.
Yes his 'death' was unimpressive but that was more on the fact that it was a rather obvious thing to happen, but we go from literally seeing a monster/tree-thing/treant to seeing a slapstick character with actual emotional investment, i felt more attuned to him than i did to starlord or drax.
Hmmm aside from that i have nothing else to say, the final scene (not the hidden scene), was hilarious because of how cheese and campy it was, thats why i think guardian was good, because it injected just the right amounts of cheese and camp without making the whole movie about cheese and camp.
Favorite Quotes:
Starlord: "Hey Ninja Turtle stop poking me"
Drax: "I think i like your knife im going to keep it"
Drax: "Why would I want to pass my finger around his throat?"
Drax: "Never again call me a thesaurus"
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Cant wait
I love how John C Reiley is a member of the Nova Corp and that he and his boss seem more like bored security guards than elite military members
Make sure you watch this on full screen and read the little popups in the lower left that list their criminal offenses,
Rocket, for example, has this on here
"A Lower Life Form - Has a Tendency to Bite"
And for Star Lord
"1 count illegal manipulation of a Gramosian Duchess"
I think this is Marvel's riskiest movie by far. Weird pulpy space adventures are a pretty niche market, and this has no big-name characters to draw audiences. (I think if I were planning how to introduce cosmic Marvel to their cinematic universe, I would have started with a loose adaptation of Planet Hulk or something.) Hopefully they paid close attention to Disney's John Carter and learned something from that box office trainwreck.
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I agree that it's risky, but I think there a few key differences between the two, for instance this movie has far more recognizable actors than even any of the previous Marvel movies, Marvel already has a brand established for fun action movies, the tone of the film seems to recognize the silliness of a lot of the aspects of the film. The title also tells you what you need to know, unlike John Carter which could just as easily be the title for a movie about a football coach. Overall I think it'll be far more successful if only for the Marvel brand, but if you need more, shirtless ripped Chris Pratt will help sell the female audience (not joking, all the ladies in my social circle will want to see it after watching the trailer).
Side note: Apparently the Toy Solicitations for the movie include Sakaaran soliders. Here is hoping for another Hulk movie about Planet Hulk.
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This was the perfect way to introduce entirely new characters that didn't even show up as cameos in any previous marvel movie.
Feel free to bid on my cards here!
I think they made a wise decision in deciding to embrace the comedy aspects of the idea and just have fun with it. Chris Pratt might be the perfect choice for this role. He gives off a kind of goofy-average-guy-next-door vibe, but comes with an excellent comedy rep from Parks and Rec, and hey he's also ripped.
As long as it looks fun (and so far so good), and the actual writing of the film itself holds up, I think this one will do well.
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Wouldnt it need to be pretty loose?
I seem to remember Banner barely being in that story and the premise depend on the Illuminati
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Considering that Vin Diesel's best role to date was as the voice of the Iron Giant, I count this is as a plus.
He also modeled for this... anytime Vin Diesel goes beyond voice it can be a coin toss....
Nobody is denying that, i mean if a Marvel movie is going to bust then chances are this is the one to do it,... that being said I personally expect it to be a hit... oh wait there's also an ant-man movie coming up.... hmmm ok two movies having the chance to be a bust...
Still optimistic about this one.
John Carter (much like this summers Lone Ranger) had terrible promotional material. The previews weren't entertaining and the push for the film fell flat around release. There was no hype and no manipulation. Now, compare that to the most financially successful film of all time, Avatar. A weird space adventure! The trailers were interesting and the marketing promised us something we'd never imagined before, even if the story itself was rubbish.
This is a great preview. It's fun, it made me laugh, it made me like Starlord right off the bat and if I know there's a likable character from the preview then I'm sold. If you can make non-comic geeks laugh at your preview (my wife for example), then you've got a decent shot. Marketing can make or break a film.
As a resident Hulk-fiend, I'd have to say that they did a decent job with the story in the animated Planet Hulk film. The premise doesn't rely on the Illuminati, just the idea that the Hulk is enough of a threat to send off planet by the heroes. The story can just as easily gloss over that part and take the 'Hulk in Space gets sent through a wormhole' and play it straight.
Of course, I don't want a straight adaptation either, because it was a 14-issue story arc which culminated in the event World War Hulk and all the dangling plot threads weren't resolved until after the Dark Son storyline.
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That's sort of what I was getting at. This trailer is doing pretty much exactly the opposite of the disastrous John Carter trailers: clearly explaining who these people are and what they're doing in space. I think they probably autopsied John Carter pretty closely.
Also, I didn't actually think The Lone Ranger's promotional material was that bad. Pretty much the same action-shots-and-Johnny-Depp-weirdness stuff that propelled Pirates of the Caribbean to smash success. That movie failed on its own horribleness.
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I think my Farscape fandom is coloring my perception, but at least it's got funny going for it.
Honestly, I feel the Johnny Depp is collapsing under his own weight. People are getting Johnny Depp fatigue, and Johnny Depp as an American Indian just turned off almost everyone I know.
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Yeah, I got a major Farscape vibe from the trailer. They both portray a group of misfits, each with a massive baggage of issues, who try to be heroes in their own way even if it is not exactly in their nature. The final line of the trailer summed it up for me. They are the "heroes" but "what a bunch of A-holes".
I don't know, at least in the Pirates films and promos Johnny Depp is charming and funny. In The Lone Ranger he was stoic and boring (bored looking?). You could tell the story was a sloppy mess based on the Lone Ranger trailer alone.
-Thanos' Chitauri gimp got no love. I wonder if Alexis Denisof reprised his role as chief gimp. I couldn't really tell it was him in The Avenger in the first place though.
-The baby Groot at the end was amazing. I want one!
-Favorite Drax quote(you'll have one too): "Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too quick."
Haaaaaaa
Seriously,
Everyone,
Go watch it. Go watch it now. It is that good.
There is a post credits sequence
So I say "man, all we need now is howard the duck and everything Lucas has ever touched will be here" and, lo and behold, that end credits sequence...
The Winter Soldier is a better film, imo (I personally think it is the best Marvel film to date), but The Guardians of the Galaxy is my favorite Marvel film to date. It is more entertaining than The Avengers. By Far.
The plot is simple, but that's because the plot isn't the point of the film. The point is to introduce the more "out-there" aspects of the Marvel universe, and to form the Guardians as a solid team. And I think it succeeded brilliantly in that.
The movie didn't bother to throw in a lot of technical canon stuff. No need to. We know that aliens exists beyond simply being generic bad guys like in The Avengers, that there are things called the Infinity Stones that bestow god-like powers, and that Thanos is said to be the most powerful being in the known galaxy, and that he wants the stones.
And Chris Pratt is a ******* awesome in the film. He can easily take the lead once the galaxy meets Earth. In fact, I get the feeling that is the direction they want to head towards. Star Lord is literally an offspring of both Earth (the familiar) and the "other". I think they're going to use Guardians as the way to introduce the galaxy to Earth, and that they will become an integral part of the MCU.
In short... No need for RDJ to be the MCU's leading man anymore. It certainly helps that the vast majority of the Guardians are CGI characters.
In my mind, it was just nothing special. The characters had some amusing dialogue, but nothing particularly meaningful. The plot was super generic, and the villain was a complete and utter one-trick pony that you never learn anything about. The characters kind of developed, but not in an organic or believable way. Drax seemed to be the deepest character, and he had minimal dialogue. I wish I'd waited until it was available on video to watch it. I would rank it behind Winter Soldier, Avengers, Iron Man 1 & 3 in terms of level of quality.
What really stood out to make me realize that I was unimpressed was the fact that Groot 'dying' didn't phase me at all. And the way that they kill Ronin was completely cheesy and devoid of any kind of intellectual appeal.
Hmmm aside from that i have nothing else to say, the final scene (not the hidden scene), was hilarious because of how cheese and campy it was, thats why i think guardian was good, because it injected just the right amounts of cheese and camp without making the whole movie about cheese and camp.
Favorite Quotes:
Starlord: "Hey Ninja Turtle stop poking me"
Drax: "I think i like your knife im going to keep it"
Drax: "Why would I want to pass my finger around his throat?"
Drax: "Never again call me a thesaurus"