[quote from="Death_By_Dragons »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/outside-magic/entertainment/movies/455455-x-men-days-of-the-futures-past?comment=47"]Magneto didn't reprogram the Sentinels. Remember, Trask made them without any metal in them and so Magneto had to put some metal inside them so he control their movements with his metal fu. They turned on only because they were in close proximity to a mutant.
Xavier and Magneto are only the tip of the iceberg. Jean Grey as the Phoenix trumps both combined.
I know they were made without metal, they were also programmed to only shoot at mutants, yet Magneto metal fu'ed them as you say to turn on and shoot at humans. My statement still stands regardless of any counter argument. These nigh omnipotent mutants are boring.
I don't know. They're mostly a bit stupid. In most of the films, half of them does very little for no reason other than "if I used my powers, the plot would cease to exist". It's even more annoying because of this imho, since I know that they can write a decent plot, but seem not to care all that much.
I would also like to see less Wolverine. This has been what? His 7th movie? I would have loved to see them send Bishop back in time instead of Wolverine.
I really don't understand the whole fanboy attitude around Wolverine either.
Some other points which annoyed me:
- While Peter Dinklage is a really good actor, it felt a little too much like they asked him to play Trask just so they could put him in the trailer with the subtext "look! It's Tyrion!"
- Why did quicksilver have current-day in-ear headphones and apparently a cassete-player small enough not to make a huge bulge under his coat? The scene would've worked just as well without this, but it just takes from my immersion a bit.
- Again Magneto's powers seem a bit too reliant on plot convenience, as well as Kitty Pryde's. And apparently Wolverine's regeneration also affects how he can cope with stuff?
- So what's up with all the flashbacks and callbacks to previous films? If you say "okay, disregard the last three films we made, this is another timeline" you can't then suddenly expect everyone to have seen X1 to 3. I can understand the Stryker reference, but Jason only exists in the previous films' canon. Furthermore: without having seen the other films, seeing Jean has very little impact whatsoever.
- I never felt that there was any real tension in the future parts of the movie. It felt almost as stilted as the Matrix scenes when their sentinels entered the underground hideout.
- However, my worst annoyance with this movie is that no single character goes through any kind of real character arc. Magneto is still a dick without understanding of the word irony, Wolverine took all the time travelling in stride to such a high degree that it was just laughable, Beast is still just as much of a non-character by the end of the movie. The only sort of, but half done character arcs are those of Xavier, done through a very badly 'because the plot demanded it' talk to future self and it feels incredibly forced, although not as much as Mystique's heel-face turn at the end.
Despite that, I liked the film though. 7/10 would watch again, but it's not as clever as I'd have liked it to be.
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the film too. Another thing I wish they would do, since the had the balls to do it in the first place, is allow Xavier the use of his legs. Why does he have to be crippled, other than the fact he is in the comics. X-Men: First Class gave us an Xavier that had the use of his legs and no one screamed and most people actually loved that movie.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the film too. Another thing I wish they would do, since the had the balls to do it in the first place, is allow Xavier the use of his legs. Why does he have to be crippled, other than the fact he is in the comics. X-Men: First Class gave us an Xavier that had the use of his legs and no one screamed and most people actually loved that movie.
I don't know. His disability is a big part of his character, but I think the series did way too little with it. I think, in retrospect, they should not have done anything yet in First Class, but rather, make him paralysed at the start of a film and make his big character arc in that film around accepting that.
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Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the film too. Another thing I wish they would do, since the had the balls to do it in the first place, is allow Xavier the use of his legs. Why does he have to be crippled, other than the fact he is in the comics. X-Men: First Class gave us an Xavier that had the use of his legs and no one screamed and most people actually loved that movie.
I don't know. His disability is a big part of his character, but I think the series did way too little with it. I think, in retrospect, they should not have done anything yet in First Class, but rather, make him paralysed at the start of a film and make his big character arc in that film around accepting that.
Yes I agree with something like that. What I was trying to say was why did they paralyze him so quickly?
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I don't know. They're mostly a bit stupid. In most of the films, half of them does very little for no reason other than "if I used my powers, the plot would cease to exist". It's even more annoying because of this imho, since I know that they can write a decent plot, but seem not to care all that much.
I really don't understand the whole fanboy attitude around Wolverine either.
Some other points which annoyed me:
- While Peter Dinklage is a really good actor, it felt a little too much like they asked him to play Trask just so they could put him in the trailer with the subtext "look! It's Tyrion!"
- Why did quicksilver have current-day in-ear headphones and apparently a cassete-player small enough not to make a huge bulge under his coat? The scene would've worked just as well without this, but it just takes from my immersion a bit.
- Again Magneto's powers seem a bit too reliant on plot convenience, as well as Kitty Pryde's. And apparently Wolverine's regeneration also affects how he can cope with stuff?
- So what's up with all the flashbacks and callbacks to previous films? If you say "okay, disregard the last three films we made, this is another timeline" you can't then suddenly expect everyone to have seen X1 to 3. I can understand the Stryker reference, but Jason only exists in the previous films' canon. Furthermore: without having seen the other films, seeing Jean has very little impact whatsoever.
- I never felt that there was any real tension in the future parts of the movie. It felt almost as stilted as the Matrix scenes when their sentinels entered the underground hideout.
- However, my worst annoyance with this movie is that no single character goes through any kind of real character arc. Magneto is still a dick without understanding of the word irony, Wolverine took all the time travelling in stride to such a high degree that it was just laughable, Beast is still just as much of a non-character by the end of the movie. The only sort of, but half done character arcs are those of Xavier, done through a very badly 'because the plot demanded it' talk to future self and it feels incredibly forced, although not as much as Mystique's heel-face turn at the end.
Despite that, I liked the film though. 7/10 would watch again, but it's not as clever as I'd have liked it to be.
I don't know. His disability is a big part of his character, but I think the series did way too little with it. I think, in retrospect, they should not have done anything yet in First Class, but rather, make him paralysed at the start of a film and make his big character arc in that film around accepting that.
Yes I agree with something like that. What I was trying to say was why did they paralyze him so quickly?