This is something that I have been thinking about thanks to Multipex (a webcomic) where the main character who loves movies is attempting to get into horror films. So I pose the question: Is there a genre that you just can't get into? Or maybe one that you feel you should like that you just can't stand?
Also under this umbrella: What movies do you like in a genre you can't stand?
For me it is straight horror films. Words cannot express how much I love horror-comedies. Whether it is Evil Dead, Shaun of the Dead, Doghouse, Slither, Drag Me To Hell or Dead Alive I love horror-comedies. But I just can't get into more traditional horror films.
Animal movies aimed at kids. Horse movies in particular. In fact, all kids movies. Kid sports movies, kid spy movies, kid action movies, kid comedies etc. with only a few exceptions.
But then again.. I'm not the target audience.
Oh man horse books were my bane as a child, I had a whole bookshelf for those alone. My dad's family is from out west and I would get about 2 "Black Beauty" books a year from his family. And as a young boy those weren't exactly my favorite.
Romantic Comedies and whatever ☺☺☺☺ing genre you want to put Adam Sandler movies into. I can't stand them.
Any genre where men and women act even MORE ILLOGICALLY than they could in real life, just to fit within the constraints of a script written 15 minutes before production starts... just amazes me, that people flock to see them.
But I'm not tryin to down on people that like rom com, I just know what I like, and they ain't it.
For me it is straight horror films. Words cannot express how much I love horror-comedies. Whether it is Evil Dead, Shaun of the Dead, Doghouse, Slither, Drag Me To Hell or Dead Alive I love horror-comedies. But I just can't get into more traditional horror films.
I too love horror-comedies, and I like traditional psychological/suspenseful horror (like The Thing). What I can't get into is the slasher horror thing that developed a bit later, and modern horror (which is more like gore but whatever).
Also rom-coms. They just seem so... formulaic and at the same time indulgent. It's like they're all trying to take the exact same movie, and change one or two twists to make them even more silly. Oh, and don't bring up the cheese they all include. I can, however, somewhat enjoy There's Something About Mary because it seems to buy into it. It's like "Yea we're just making crazy ☺☺☺☺ up for the point of it, what are you going to do about it?" Plus, the formula wasn't as established back then so it has some clemency.
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#1 Romantic comedies are so god awful and they're also quite sexist at times. They are perhaps even more sexist against men than they are against women, as women are stereotyped but they are at least depicted with endearing qualities (responsible, committed, etc.). In romantic comedies men are typically depicted as stupid losers who screw things up with the girl they love and then must go on a journey to make things right, but even at the end, they're still pictured as stupid people who don't deserve love.
#2 Horror comedies. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Bruce Campbell fan. But my appreciation of horror comedies ends there. It's kind of like a menthol cigarette. If you want a mint, have a mint. If you want a smoke, have a smoke. Don't mix the two in some unholy manner where both are corrupted.
#3 Action. Not action adventure necessarily, but the ones that are just straight up shallow action.
I just saw the extended trailer for the new Fast and Furious and the succession of images can be summed up as follows: big muscular hunk, money, cars, back to hunks, now ladies dancing in thongs, more cars and hunks then back to the money before we see some cars, back to the thongs, mix the thongs with cars and then some money and gigantic breasts, then back to the big beefy hunks again who are driving cars with boobs in their faces.
#3 Action. Not action adventure necessarily, but the ones that are just straight up shallow action.
I thought about putting this as well but then considered that really these movies are just plain bad. That's all you can say. The thing is, the American audience doesn't mind as long as there are explosions and guns.
It's just saying "I can't get into bad movies". Of course not, regardless of genre. It'd be strange (though possible, I suppose) to be into such movies.
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Romantic comedies. Because all the characters are so stupid, these movies are so painful to watch, just really awkward. The plot is almost always terrible, and every movie is just like the other.
Horror comedies. I don't know, I just don't feel like these go well together. I didn't enjoy Shaun of the Dead at all, I think horror and comedy should be held very far apart.
Romantic Comedies, and the type of comedies which pretty much try to get all their laugh from how stupid they can make the main character (as someone earlier said, whatever the hell you'd call Adam Sandler movies).
I'm also just simply not into horror/slasher films these days. Maybe it's because the real world is scarier than horror films now, I don't know, but I just find most of them absolutely boring.
Soooo that pretty much leaves movies where people stand around talking to each other...
Do you not like action movies because of bad plots? If so, would that mean you like action/comedy/etc with great plots?
Im just not at all impressed by big explosions. Doesnt do anything for me and its what far too many movies go for nowadays. As far as comedy goes, I couldnt tell you the last time I saw one I enjoyed. Im an admitted move snob. I'm VERY particular about the stuff I like. I tend to enjoy the "Academy Award wining" types. Gladiator, Saving Private Ryan, Braveheart, American Beauty, Shakespeare in Love, Tombstone, The Departed, Good Will Hunting, Pan's Labyrinth, Cinderella Man, etc.
Any and all Japanese anime. Talk about a stagnant genre!
Y'know what I have no idea if you were serious but I pretty much agree. There are a few key, core anime movies that should be taken seriously as films, and then there's the other 99 percent of the material. The vast majority of the time if I see an anime all I can think is "oh this again?" But you can't screw with something like Akira, that animation and design is just sublime. I'll admit before the argument starts that this is probably confirmation bias at work; and since I know I dislike most of it, I don't try too hard to find the stuff I don't.
Another vote for torture/gore horror. I always assumed horror was supposed to scare me, not gross me out.
Don't know if it's a specific genre, but the "let's put on a show and save the rec center" stuff doesn't do it for me.
About the anime thing, yeah, I'm serious. It is so OVER stylized that it becomes literally gross to watch imo. Akira is a masterpiece no doubt. And there are perhaps a couple good anime films released yearly. But other than that it is all the same cliche schlock. Give me an anime with no ninjas, giant robots, super powers, familial tragedy.... You're left with practically nothing.
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About the anime thing, yeah, I'm serious. It is so OVER stylized that it becomes literally gross to watch imo. Akira is a masterpiece no doubt. And there are perhaps a couple good anime films released yearly. But other than that it is all the same cliche schlock. Give me an anime with no ninjas, giant robots, super powers, familial tragedy.... You're left with practically nothing.
I still say this is the case where most westerners only see certain kinds of anime that the western world accepts into it. We pick out the generic ones because that's what anime is to the west.
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I still say this is the case where most westerners only see certain kinds of anime that the western world accepts into it. We pick out the generic ones because that's what anime is to the west.
.... Buh? Dude, go to any anime selection in any store or online retailer and tell me what you see. Some serious, heartfelt dramatic pieces of art? SURE, maybe a couple! Then what? Look down the list.... Lots of huge breasted women with no noses? Lot's of effeminate men with stupid hair and clothes? Lots of.... robots and monsters perhaps? Guns? Swords? Lasers?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I looked over the selection and laughed.
I'm not saying the artists aren't talented, they certainly are. But they all... draw... the same.... ☺☺☺☺. Trust me I gave anime a fair shake.
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knowing full well that films are largely, if not solely, for entertainment (at least to the end-user and not the producing film studio) and plots are almost always supposed to be incredible (unless they're docos and doco-like genres, and even then there's creative/artistic liberty), i kill too much time doing stupid things like watching films.
Other than the noses thing (which is a disparity in drawing style) the same could be said about most live action western films and tv. At least to the extent that this is true in anime - and we're actually paying those actresses and selecting them based on that, rather then just drawing it.
Lot's of effeminate men with stupid hair and clothes?
I'm noticing lots of vague words like "stupid". More effeminate than western animated males perhaps, but still not a standard. Also, as with the women, media tends to portray people in an idealized way - its no different here.
Lots of.... robots and monsters perhaps? Guns? Swords? Lasers?
Yes, their movies tend to be less focused on reality, and mechs are common. But not quite the norm. I can't remember a single anime having a laser (except one on a mech) and I've only watched a few with swords (and guess what those were based on the time that swords were used, so that's fine). If you don't mechs, skip mechs. So you're left with guns. Wow, those are sure uncommon in western stuff.
I always suggest that people who put forth these things watch Monster. It's even based in Europe, in addition to the more western-style art and and other stuff. This main character effeminate enough for you? And despite that picture having a gun, they actually aren't really that common in the show, given what it's about.
It's not that you have to like anime but I'm extremely tired of people taking the most generic and stupid example and claiming thats what anime is. That's largely what the anime that the west takes in is, because we market it primarily towards children and pre-teens. There is a large volume of anime that is much more philosophical than nearly all modern western film and tv (definitely tv), as far as I've found.
Then could you give me a single film that stands up to Akira or Ghost in the Shell or the brilliant work of Hayao Miyazaki or Makoto Shinkai?
I'm not saying anime is bad, or that it isn't an artform. but there is a huge disparity between anime that has even a remotely interesting narrative versus complete cliche ridden schlock.
"The same could be said about most live action films in the US", are you ☺☺☺☺ing serious?! Um, wtf films are you watching? Scary movie 3? Transformers? Did you REALLY just say that anime is basically more philosophical than American cinema? Don't even attempt to make that comparison sir because it will end very badly for you. How many classes in a film program at a college will include anime? Are you going to really sit here and tell me MORE than one?
Fantasy based stories are absolutely the norm in anime. Sometimes they use magic, or machines, or spirits to get a moral or subtextual message across. Believe me, I get that. You think I'm just cherry picking bad examples, or that it is marketed wrong, but what do you expect? Am I supposed to dig for the "deep cuts" of anime that aren't available in the US? And yeah there are "manly" male characters. But 9 times out of 10 it's the same cliche badass ex-soldier or whatever who either has an eyepatch or smokes big cigars. Tell me I am lying.
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Also under this umbrella: What movies do you like in a genre you can't stand?
For me it is straight horror films. Words cannot express how much I love horror-comedies. Whether it is Evil Dead, Shaun of the Dead, Doghouse, Slither, Drag Me To Hell or Dead Alive I love horror-comedies. But I just can't get into more traditional horror films.
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Oh man horse books were my bane as a child, I had a whole bookshelf for those alone. My dad's family is from out west and I would get about 2 "Black Beauty" books a year from his family. And as a young boy those weren't exactly my favorite.
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Any genre where men and women act even MORE ILLOGICALLY than they could in real life, just to fit within the constraints of a script written 15 minutes before production starts... just amazes me, that people flock to see them.
But I'm not tryin to down on people that like rom com, I just know what I like, and they ain't it.
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Also rom-coms. They just seem so... formulaic and at the same time indulgent. It's like they're all trying to take the exact same movie, and change one or two twists to make them even more silly. Oh, and don't bring up the cheese they all include. I can, however, somewhat enjoy There's Something About Mary because it seems to buy into it. It's like "Yea we're just making crazy ☺☺☺☺ up for the point of it, what are you going to do about it?" Plus, the formula wasn't as established back then so it has some clemency.
It was one of the funniest movies I have ever seen when I first saw it and I love it to this day.
It's like the Airplane of Rom-coms, remember Airplane came out back in the very very early 80s when disaster flicks were huge.
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#2 Horror comedies. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Bruce Campbell fan. But my appreciation of horror comedies ends there. It's kind of like a menthol cigarette. If you want a mint, have a mint. If you want a smoke, have a smoke. Don't mix the two in some unholy manner where both are corrupted.
#3 Action. Not action adventure necessarily, but the ones that are just straight up shallow action.
I just saw the extended trailer for the new Fast and Furious and the succession of images can be summed up as follows: big muscular hunk, money, cars, back to hunks, now ladies dancing in thongs, more cars and hunks then back to the money before we see some cars, back to the thongs, mix the thongs with cars and then some money and gigantic breasts, then back to the big beefy hunks again who are driving cars with boobs in their faces.
It's just saying "I can't get into bad movies". Of course not, regardless of genre. It'd be strange (though possible, I suppose) to be into such movies.
Horror comedies. I don't know, I just don't feel like these go well together. I didn't enjoy Shaun of the Dead at all, I think horror and comedy should be held very far apart.
I'm also just simply not into horror/slasher films these days. Maybe it's because the real world is scarier than horror films now, I don't know, but I just find most of them absolutely boring.
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Toilet humor, also.
I enjoyed Sweeney Todd though.
Y'know what I have no idea if you were serious but I pretty much agree. There are a few key, core anime movies that should be taken seriously as films, and then there's the other 99 percent of the material. The vast majority of the time if I see an anime all I can think is "oh this again?" But you can't screw with something like Akira, that animation and design is just sublime. I'll admit before the argument starts that this is probably confirmation bias at work; and since I know I dislike most of it, I don't try too hard to find the stuff I don't.
Another vote for torture/gore horror. I always assumed horror was supposed to scare me, not gross me out.
Don't know if it's a specific genre, but the "let's put on a show and save the rec center" stuff doesn't do it for me.
So the Japanese have us beat in that area easily ;).
I agree that pure action can bore me to tears I also am not a huge fan of horror I do enjoy every other genre though if done well.
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.... Buh? Dude, go to any anime selection in any store or online retailer and tell me what you see. Some serious, heartfelt dramatic pieces of art? SURE, maybe a couple! Then what? Look down the list.... Lots of huge breasted women with no noses? Lot's of effeminate men with stupid hair and clothes? Lots of.... robots and monsters perhaps? Guns? Swords? Lasers?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I looked over the selection and laughed.
I'm not saying the artists aren't talented, they certainly are. But they all... draw... the same.... ☺☺☺☺. Trust me I gave anime a fair shake.
knowing full well that films are largely, if not solely, for entertainment (at least to the end-user and not the producing film studio) and plots are almost always supposed to be incredible (unless they're docos and doco-like genres, and even then there's creative/artistic liberty), i kill too much time doing stupid things like watching films.
I always suggest that people who put forth these things watch Monster. It's even based in Europe, in addition to the more western-style art and and other stuff. This main character effeminate enough for you? And despite that picture having a gun, they actually aren't really that common in the show, given what it's about.
It's not that you have to like anime but I'm extremely tired of people taking the most generic and stupid example and claiming thats what anime is. That's largely what the anime that the west takes in is, because we market it primarily towards children and pre-teens. There is a large volume of anime that is much more philosophical than nearly all modern western film and tv (definitely tv), as far as I've found.
I'm not saying anime is bad, or that it isn't an artform. but there is a huge disparity between anime that has even a remotely interesting narrative versus complete cliche ridden schlock.
"The same could be said about most live action films in the US", are you ☺☺☺☺ing serious?! Um, wtf films are you watching? Scary movie 3? Transformers? Did you REALLY just say that anime is basically more philosophical than American cinema? Don't even attempt to make that comparison sir because it will end very badly for you. How many classes in a film program at a college will include anime? Are you going to really sit here and tell me MORE than one?
Fantasy based stories are absolutely the norm in anime. Sometimes they use magic, or machines, or spirits to get a moral or subtextual message across. Believe me, I get that. You think I'm just cherry picking bad examples, or that it is marketed wrong, but what do you expect? Am I supposed to dig for the "deep cuts" of anime that aren't available in the US? And yeah there are "manly" male characters. But 9 times out of 10 it's the same cliche badass ex-soldier or whatever who either has an eyepatch or smokes big cigars. Tell me I am lying.